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Just seen the Open webOS ported to the Galaxy Nexus on xda's front page.
Really interested to know whether someone would be porting it to the nexus 7?
I know its early days for Open webOS now but, I really enjoy using it on my Pre.
Thanks
Better get on it
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It'll happen eventually I'm sure.
I Am Marino said:
It'll happen eventually I'm sure.
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The best things always get ported to the best devices
Oh god yes. I want webOS on this thing - just for multitasking alone. Android doesn't even come close (and yes, I tried V6 supercharger, mcTweaker, changing my kernel, Overskreen, changing OOM values, ROM Toolkit, all the build.prop tweaks, Startup Manager, Autokill Memory Manager)
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Oh god yes. I want webOS on this thing - just for multitasking alone. Android doesn't even come close (and yes, I tried V6 supercharger, mcTweaker, changing my kernel, Overskreen, changing OOM values, ROM Toolkit, all the build.prop tweaks, Startup Manager, Autokill Memory Manager)
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I had a Touchpad for a while.. WebOS was nice... was always missing too many need applications to be able to use it all the time, but I truly did enjoy it.
Well, apparently there's a Dalvik emulator coming out soon - so Android apps will appear, just like on Blackberry Playbook.
Besides, I really like how webOS is closer to proper Linux - to the point where people can run distros as cards.
Thank god it's not just me wanting this, fingers crossed the team behind the nexus port releases their methods and findings soon.
I've been lurking around this since I heard the news of open webOS, well this and native Linux .
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We need a WebOS/Android hybrid.
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We need a WebOS/Android hybrid.
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Well, that'll take a lot of work - pretty much the only similarity between Android and webOS is the Linux kernel.
However apparently there is some sort of an emulator in development.
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Anybody wants to start a bounty thread?
I'd throw in some money for a daily driver port (aka working wifi and gpu acceleration).
I want a port for the Nexus One, G2X, and Nexus 7, maybe the G1 or even then Archos 5 7th generation. If I had free time I would give it a try. It would be my first time but they posted the sources and some basic instructions, so I just have to look around for what I need to change to specific devices.
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I want a port for the Nexus One, G2X, and Nexus 7, maybe the G1 or even then Archos 5 7th generation. If I had free time I would give it a try. It would be my first time but they posted the sources and some basic instructions, so I just have to look around for what I need to change to specific devices.
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It probably will be incredibly difficult for any pre-2011 phone.
Please focus on Nexus 7 first.
Im sure it wont be long before we see it on the N7, I am no wiz when it comes to this but I would assume that if it is possible to get it working on the Nexus then it shouldnt be to much more of an effort to get it going on the N7 being in the Nexus family and all.
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Wandroid? Aweb? WaOS?
bmstrong said:
Wandroid? Aweb? WaOS?
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Webdroid.
There's no need to merge, if only somebody could get webOS-style true multitasking implemented in Android.
bmstrong said:
Wandroid? Aweb? WaOS?
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WandOS.
:/
Any news?
JBQ - " there is nothing in AOSP
related to Nexus 4"
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
dafuq???
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That really sucks!
Yeah that does suck. Looks like I'm skipping this device.
Ya. Pretty much...
Too bad I already ordered it -.-
Oh well... he also said that he cannot comment on it being included in the future. I'm hoping by the time people start receiving them it will be added
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Not quite sure what this means for us, can somebody explain to me in noob terms?
You guys are interpreting that wrong.
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Not quite sure what this means for us, can somebody explain to me in noob terms?
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its like any Samsung htc device that don't have open sourced drivers - hal's which is sucks :crying:
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its like any Samsung htc device that don't have open sourced drivers - hal's which is sucks :crying:
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FUUUU
I just sold my One X to get away from a gimped development scene...
The N4 is aosp they are talking about something else
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FUUUU
I just sold my One X to get away from a gimped development scene...
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hehe , calm down cuz u will have vanilla android working out of the box ( so cm or aokp will work too i think )
Just means they haven't released source for it yet, nothing more significant than that. Sometimes stuff isn't finished enough for release, or they have licensing issues with a driver or two. Google *always* eventually release though.
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The N4 is aosp they are talking about something else
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-If AOSP starts pointing toward Nexus 4, you are having a bad problem,
and you will not go to space today (i.e.: there is nothing in AOSP
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! is it really not aosp....??
i sold my galaxy s3 and my brother kept an order for 16 gb nexus over there in us for me....
i fu**ked up....
... confused : how open sourced are other Nexus devices?
I think some of you are overreacting. It's not in AOSP, YET.
From the man himself
To clarify: Nexus 4 is not supported in AOSP at the moment: no source
files, no binaries.
JBQ
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... confused : how open sourced where other Nexus devices?
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Well, you can download AOSP, type a few commands and have something that boots a nexus device fairly quickly. I haven't looked too hard at it but assume there are some binary drivers that get thrown in there.
Google haven't release the build system for the N4 yet - OTOH you could probably hack one together yourself (none of the hardware on the N4 is new to android so presumably the drivers are out there somewhere).
All nexus devices are trivial to update via fastboot, and have builtin unlocks, and the N4 doesn't change that.
Fingers crossed it will be I need the AOSP browser haha
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My guess is that they cant open source a lot of the qualcomm stuff for the modem and the SOC. The TI OMAP is a very open SOC, but they are basically the only ones in the business that do that so if someone want to tinker with GPU, SOC or modem drivers the nexus 4 will not be as open as the galaxy nexus.
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Fingers crossed it will be I need the AOSP browser haha
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What the hell are you talking about? It still runs stock android...
Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry for being rude, as a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute big squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry if I was rude, being a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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Bullseye!
Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
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Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
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Why would someone do that? Just get the regular version...
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lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/2...eive-updates-shortly-after-they-are-released/
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I sound like a broken record saying this since day 1. The OEMs have to put their proprietary drivers and kernels (firmware) into the image or the software wont' know how to communicate with the hardware. I guess if the OEMs were willing to release them to Google then I guess Google could handle the updates. Then you have to ask: why would Google take on that responsibility? Would the OEMs openly give Google those drivers in a day and age where anyone can sue anyone over anything because something looks similar to something else? None of that makes sense.
Yeah I'm kinda dissapointed... I want the latest and greatest on my N4 but still don't have it... Hopefully it's just a matter of days... Hopefully hours....
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PJcastaldo said:
Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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One click methods are in no way "the same thing".
Edit: I'm not trying to start an argument here, its my personal preference. If you like one click methods then thats fine.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
Once they launch will be the last time they have something the Nexus doesn't. The moment Google said that HTC/Samsung were responsible for updates and they weren't hosting/posting source means those phones will almost certainly be behind the Nexus.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden not available to the Nexus owners.
lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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+1 Only Nexus reveal the real beauty of Android.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden still not available to the Nexus owners.
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Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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El Daddy said:
Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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Hmm...wait and watch.
why are some people sooo sensitive, "my nexus should get this first" , "all others must wait" ...
look a little out of the box, these Google Edition phones are promoting stock android, whether they'll get updates parallel with the nexus or will join after a few days/weeks delay it doesn't matter. We all want more stock android options, and that's a step in the right direction, popularizing stock bloat-free android.
So, yeah, grow up and stop acting like samsung galaxy/iphone/etc.. blinded fanboys.
Can't believe you guys are complaining about a new camera app and live wallpaper. Nexus is just asop pure android 100% Google stuff... Doesn't mean Google owes us latest of the latest updates.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
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How do you know the GE phones will get those features first? They haven't even been released yet? And they won't be in users hands until after July 9th.
Just got a nexus 4 for a friend and I am appalled at how average the screen still looks with stock kernel, how on earth has google not fixed this yet? Why does someone need to install franco kernel or whatever to get the best use of the hardware? Wasnt sheer optimization the hallmark of nexus? What is google doing it doesnt even care.
Similar was the story with the nexus S. You needed custom kernel to unlock the audio capability of the phone because google didnt want us to listen to such audio quality? It was simply appalling and did not make any sense at all especially after listening just how much difference it made to the sound quality and power.
I dont have much experience with the galaxy nexus so I cant say but once again the same old BS with the nexus 4, install custom kernel for blah blah cuz google is too lazy/doesnt care. Franco kernel makes such a big difference to the screen and there is obviously no "drawback" to this that I can see so what is google doing? It doesnt want its users to use their smartphones on a more beautiful screen with no cost added? The nexus 4 stock screen is even worse than the i9023 nexus S, what more can be said!!
PS: I am a power user and have no issues installing custom roms and kernels but due to google's indifference on so many things it seems like the nexus isnt that great a phone for noobs as it could be.
The screen looks much better now in Android 4.3
"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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The screen looks much better now in Android 4.3
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That would be great.
vanmarek said:
"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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But noobs do have geek friends. I have made 2 of my "noob" friends to purchase a nexus 4 when they were all set to get the galaxy S3.
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"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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Just got a nexus 4 for a friend and I am appalled at how average the screen still looks with stock kernel, how on earth has google not fixed this yet? Why does someone need to install franco kernel or whatever to get the best use of the hardware? Wasnt sheer optimization the hallmark of nexus? What is google doing it doesnt even care.
Similar was the story with the nexus S. You needed custom kernel to unlock the audio capability of the phone because google didnt want us to listen to such audio quality? It was simply appalling and did not make any sense at all especially after listening just how much difference it made to the sound quality and power.
I dont have much experience with the galaxy nexus so I cant say but once again the same old BS with the nexus 4, install custom kernel for blah blah cuz google is too lazy/doesnt care. Franco kernel makes such a big difference to the screen and there is obviously no "drawback" to this that I can see so what is google doing? It doesnt want its users to use their smartphones on a more beautiful screen with no cost added? The nexus 4 stock screen is even worse than the i9023 nexus S, what more can be said!!
PS: I am a power user and have no issues installing custom roms and kernels but due to google's indifference on so many things it seems like the nexus isnt that great a phone for noobs as it could be.
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I think the screen is pretty good on my stock nexus 4 and thats from someone whos been a amoled user from the very start and i dont think google is the only one which didnt unlock its audio capabilities as samsung did the same with their galaxy s, that needed a kernel change i.e voodoo sound to release the full wolfson power.
Most people I know never even heard of the Nexus. I have to explain to them it is a Google phone. It isn't that Android doesn't care about the consumer. It is that this phone isn't targeted towards the average consumer. It is more a developers phone and such being the case, tweaking can be left for the great developers here.
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Threads started by Gambler_3:
- Who eats Pasta on a rainy day ???
- Why is there no mention of Kangaroos in the Bible? They're such an exciting animal..
- [POLL] I shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot ...
and my personal best:
-Who let the Sheep out ???
for the rest check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=202763890
hammer2007 said:
I think the screen is pretty good on my stock nexus 4 and thats from someone whos been a amoled user from the very start and i dont think google is the only one which didnt unlock its audio capabilities as samsung did the same with their galaxy s, that needed a kernel change i.e voodoo sound to release the full wolfson power.
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Yes but its an old story now, I havent heard of any such thing with the S3 and S4.
I think you've missed the point of the Nexus line. First and foremost it is a developer oriented platform. If it was meant to be pretty and have tons of near-useless eye candy and apps you'd be looking at an iPhone or Samsung or HTC. Customize the Nexus however you want, it is meant to be a blank slate.
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Threads started by Gambler_3:
- Who eats Pasta on a rainy day ???
- Why is there no mention of Kangaroos in the Bible? They're such an exciting animal..
- [POLL] I shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot ...
and my personal best:
-Who let the Sheep out ???
for the rest check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=202701407
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From the sharp mind that brought you 'all android apps have lag' and 'I don't understand why people complain about on screen buttons'... Here comes another epic thread.
Please everyone, take a look at the wonderful content that comes out of this guy's mind.
Look at it and lose the last hope you had in humanity!
Just kidding , don't.
He's a lame troll, don't feed the critter.
Pretty much the Uwe Boll of xda, top quality content.
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Thanks @drakester but I think the best thing is that honestly I don't think Gambler even owns Nexus 4.
So I'm not sure why to crap with all the negativity against it or Google and in this day and age with so many choices I can't even comprehend why not to go with the device you like instead of complain or sit down and start tweeking the way you want it - its Android! And please don't say there are limitations to what you can do with the customisation...
Or as an alternative please construct proper discussion and not complain.
Edit: please.... Power user? Or maybe yes you are right just a user indeed. So if yoy have so many issues why not to create something that everyone else could use it and enjoy it and you can set Google example how you believe things should be done.
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Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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I assume you are being sarcastic as the N4 has not been a massive hit. And if I asked my friends what the Nexus 4 was, I don't think a single one of them would know it was a phone.
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Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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Most people I know never even heard of the Nexus. I have to explain to them it is a Google phone. It isn't that Android doesn't care about the consumer. It is that this phone isn't targeted towards the average consumer. It is more a developers phone and such being the case, tweaking can be left for the great developers here.
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I agree with ya man. I recently switched from tmobile to metropcs and the guy in the metro store kept asking me...
"is this an android phone?"
yes...it is its the nexus 4.
"ive never heard of it. we carry tons and tons of phones but never seen this one"....are you positive its an android phone...
yes. im positive its running 4.2.2 jelly bean.....
"hmmmm ive never seen this before."
well its the google phone. i bought it straight from google
Everyone who knows android, knows what a nexus device is.........you must be being sarcastic. Let's judge a phones success by what the nimrod at metro PCS says???????
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So you claim to be a power user but you don't check the forum reactions before buying a phone????
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Everyone things I have a galaxy, no one in their right mind knows what this thing is. They'll ask if that's the new HTC, Android, Droid, Samsung, Galaxy S, S4, or iPhone (??).
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Everyone things I have a galaxy, no one in their right mind knows what this thing is. They'll ask if that's the new HTC, Android, Droid, Samsung, Galaxy S, S4, or iPhone (??).
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One of the reasons why I get a nexus. Everywhere I have gone, it grabs attention. People used to seeing S3s and iPhones go 'that's a cool looking phone, which one is it'. Has even been a good conversation starter for me a few times. One time when I said it was from LG, this guy was like 'lg makes such nice phones too?!!'? LOL
N4 is relatively unknown, Google intended it to be that way..... imho, that's the only thing that makes any sense. Had the n4 had half the marketing the s3 or s4 had I think the n4 would've really made some noise.
What a shame, so many miss out on experiencing pure vanilla awesomeness
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So do you guys think it's worth switching over to ART now that it's an official thing in L release and the future of android for sure? I had researched this months ago but at the time many apps didn't work with it. Is it something worth giving a shot now? I actually saw an article posted from CNET mentioning about doing this even if you don't have the official release as it helps boost performance. Any risks from switching or is it just maybe some apps don't work and that's the worst that happens?
For me the pros of art outweighed the cons since day 1
The version of ART in kitkat isn't the same as the one in L. The one in kitkat was a developer preview so devs could get their apps working in it for the eventual full release. Currently it offers little to no bonuses, and at this point very few apps don't work with it.
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The version of ART in kitkat isn't the same as the one in L. The one in kitkat was a developer preview so devs could get their apps working in it for the eventual full release. Currently it offers little to no bonuses, and at this point very few apps don't work with it.
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How is it not the same? It's the way the system is using cache right? So it's either using dalvik or ART. It can be like half one, and half the other. So I don't think you're right about that. However, as you say I guess it still stands that many apps don't work with it yet. This being the reason I never switched. But I was thinking now that it's official, app makers will switch.
Anyone know of a list or anything that states apps that don't work with it?
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How is it not the same? It's the way the system is using cache right? So it's either using dalvik or ART. It can be like half one, and half the other. So I don't think you're right about that. However, as you say I guess it still stands that many apps don't work with it yet. This being the reason I never switched. But I was thinking now that it's official, app makers will switch.
Anyone know of a list or anything that states apps that don't work with it?
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ART, as far as I know, hasn't been updated since the kitkat release, and what we got was a sort of beta release. The basis of it is different from dalvik, yes, but the things that actually provide the bonuses are different in L. Sites ran tests when it came out and found minimal to no differences from dalvik. Plus, it's only been available on Qualcomm chips, which includes the Moto X, and Moto decided not to hide it. Outside of that and Nexus devices, im not sure what devices have it right now. My Nexus 10 can't choose ART (on stock ROM) because it runs on an Exynos chip. L will contain all the updates Google has been working on since the kitkat release and thats when you'll see a difference from dalvik. I've been on ART on my Moto X and N7 since then and cant notice a difference. And most apps work on it now. The ones that are more likely to not work are games.
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ART, as far as I know, hasn't been updated since the kitkat release, and what we got was a sort of beta release. The basis of it is different from dalvik, yes, but the things that actually provide the bonuses are different in L. Sites ran tests when it came out and found minimal to no differences from dalvik. Plus, it's only been available on Qualcomm chips, which includes the Moto X, and Moto decided not to hide it. Outside of that and Nexus devices, im not sure what devices have it right now. My Nexus 10 can't choose ART (on stock ROM) because it runs on an Exynos chip. L will contain all the updates Google has been working on since the kitkat release and thats when you'll see a difference from dalvik. I've been on ART on my Moto X and N7 since then and cant notice a difference. And most apps work on it now. The ones that are more likely to not work are games.
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Oh good info. I know its available on the Nexus 7, 2013 as well. So you do use ART on your devices despite believing it doesn't make any difference? Care to explain. Wondering if its at least worth a shot you know. I'm not rooted so it'd be something to tinker with lol
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tu3218 said:
Oh good info. I know its available on the Nexus 7, 2013 as well. So you do use ART on your devices despite believing it doesn't make any difference? Care to explain. Wondering if its at least worth a shot you know. I'm not rooted so it'd be something to tinker with lol
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I just have a habit of wanting to have "the latest and greatest," and since it didn't really break anything i decided "why not?" I'll probably end up flashing the preview build of L onto my N7 for that same reason, but i'm gonna give that a day or two to hear how much stuff is busted to see if it's worth it.
I haven't tried any games, but I agree to not seeing a difference.
The moto x runs much better than other devices I'm used to, so it's difficult for me to pinpoint any changes it made as opposed to using dalvik
I have noticed a massive difference on art
Ive noticed an improvement as well. Only downside is no xposed
Is the worst that can happen as a result of switching just app incompatibility?
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tu3218 said:
Is the worst that can happen as a result of switching just app incompatibility?
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Pretty much. Then just switch back.
Oh, and there is the longer boot the first time after switching from one to the other.
ART is really nice on the Moto X, but my complaint is the same as most folks when I use it - no Xposed compatibility. However, judging from the I/O keynote Wednesday, I don't think the dev has to do anything to make it work - Google is doing that for us on the backend when L releases in the fall. They made it clear that they're trying to make Android more developer-friendly, as indicated by the Android L preview released yesterday. There's lots of neat stuff coming, and we all get to be part of it. :good:
Just try it and see what you think. Don't like it, switch back. Asking people isn't helpful....some like it, some hate it....and some have no opinion.
But, personally.....an X without Gravity box wouldn't appeal to me.
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And for me....Xposed will be a necessity on L...when its official, cause I think its butt ugly. Lol
Well I'm not rooted/unlocked so gravity box isn't an option for me regardless unfortunately. I think I'll give it a shot.
Restola said:
Ive noticed an improvement as well. Only downside is no xposed
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Edit: I tried to switch to ART having xposed installed and it looks like the switch would take take. Interesting
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Schaweet said:
I'm using ART and Xposed works just fine for me.
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Well the developer of xposed says it doesn't work ( http://www.androidauthority.com/android-art-switch-xposed-395098/) and in the xposed FAQ one if the questions is "why does my phone switch to dalvik when I enable xposed".
So I guess all I can say is congrats? I haven't personally tried to force the two together.
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Well the developer of xposed says it doesn't work ( http://www.androidauthority.com/android-art-switch-xposed-395098/) and in the xposed FAQ one if the questions is "why does my phone switch to dalvik when I enable xposed".
So I guess all I can say is congrats?
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Haha... Yeah see my edit. I thought it switched but it wouldn't.
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So I just realized I only have 9gb free when I believe I had like 16 before. Is that because of switching to ART? Its okay because I have the 32gb moto x but just curious.
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So I just realized I only have 9gb free when I believe I had like 16 before. Is that because of switching to ART? Its okay because I have the 32gb moto x but just curious.
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Yes, ART uses more space on the device.