So do you guys think it's worth switching over to ART now that it's an official thing in L release and the future of android for sure? I had researched this months ago but at the time many apps didn't work with it. Is it something worth giving a shot now? I actually saw an article posted from CNET mentioning about doing this even if you don't have the official release as it helps boost performance. Any risks from switching or is it just maybe some apps don't work and that's the worst that happens?
For me the pros of art outweighed the cons since day 1
The version of ART in kitkat isn't the same as the one in L. The one in kitkat was a developer preview so devs could get their apps working in it for the eventual full release. Currently it offers little to no bonuses, and at this point very few apps don't work with it.
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blipp said:
The version of ART in kitkat isn't the same as the one in L. The one in kitkat was a developer preview so devs could get their apps working in it for the eventual full release. Currently it offers little to no bonuses, and at this point very few apps don't work with it.
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How is it not the same? It's the way the system is using cache right? So it's either using dalvik or ART. It can be like half one, and half the other. So I don't think you're right about that. However, as you say I guess it still stands that many apps don't work with it yet. This being the reason I never switched. But I was thinking now that it's official, app makers will switch.
Anyone know of a list or anything that states apps that don't work with it?
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How is it not the same? It's the way the system is using cache right? So it's either using dalvik or ART. It can be like half one, and half the other. So I don't think you're right about that. However, as you say I guess it still stands that many apps don't work with it yet. This being the reason I never switched. But I was thinking now that it's official, app makers will switch.
Anyone know of a list or anything that states apps that don't work with it?
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ART, as far as I know, hasn't been updated since the kitkat release, and what we got was a sort of beta release. The basis of it is different from dalvik, yes, but the things that actually provide the bonuses are different in L. Sites ran tests when it came out and found minimal to no differences from dalvik. Plus, it's only been available on Qualcomm chips, which includes the Moto X, and Moto decided not to hide it. Outside of that and Nexus devices, im not sure what devices have it right now. My Nexus 10 can't choose ART (on stock ROM) because it runs on an Exynos chip. L will contain all the updates Google has been working on since the kitkat release and thats when you'll see a difference from dalvik. I've been on ART on my Moto X and N7 since then and cant notice a difference. And most apps work on it now. The ones that are more likely to not work are games.
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blipp said:
ART, as far as I know, hasn't been updated since the kitkat release, and what we got was a sort of beta release. The basis of it is different from dalvik, yes, but the things that actually provide the bonuses are different in L. Sites ran tests when it came out and found minimal to no differences from dalvik. Plus, it's only been available on Qualcomm chips, which includes the Moto X, and Moto decided not to hide it. Outside of that and Nexus devices, im not sure what devices have it right now. My Nexus 10 can't choose ART (on stock ROM) because it runs on an Exynos chip. L will contain all the updates Google has been working on since the kitkat release and thats when you'll see a difference from dalvik. I've been on ART on my Moto X and N7 since then and cant notice a difference. And most apps work on it now. The ones that are more likely to not work are games.
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Oh good info. I know its available on the Nexus 7, 2013 as well. So you do use ART on your devices despite believing it doesn't make any difference? Care to explain. Wondering if its at least worth a shot you know. I'm not rooted so it'd be something to tinker with lol
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Oh good info. I know its available on the Nexus 7, 2013 as well. So you do use ART on your devices despite believing it doesn't make any difference? Care to explain. Wondering if its at least worth a shot you know. I'm not rooted so it'd be something to tinker with lol
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I just have a habit of wanting to have "the latest and greatest," and since it didn't really break anything i decided "why not?" I'll probably end up flashing the preview build of L onto my N7 for that same reason, but i'm gonna give that a day or two to hear how much stuff is busted to see if it's worth it.
I haven't tried any games, but I agree to not seeing a difference.
The moto x runs much better than other devices I'm used to, so it's difficult for me to pinpoint any changes it made as opposed to using dalvik
I have noticed a massive difference on art
Ive noticed an improvement as well. Only downside is no xposed
Is the worst that can happen as a result of switching just app incompatibility?
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Is the worst that can happen as a result of switching just app incompatibility?
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Pretty much. Then just switch back.
Oh, and there is the longer boot the first time after switching from one to the other.
ART is really nice on the Moto X, but my complaint is the same as most folks when I use it - no Xposed compatibility. However, judging from the I/O keynote Wednesday, I don't think the dev has to do anything to make it work - Google is doing that for us on the backend when L releases in the fall. They made it clear that they're trying to make Android more developer-friendly, as indicated by the Android L preview released yesterday. There's lots of neat stuff coming, and we all get to be part of it. :good:
Just try it and see what you think. Don't like it, switch back. Asking people isn't helpful....some like it, some hate it....and some have no opinion.
But, personally.....an X without Gravity box wouldn't appeal to me.
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And for me....Xposed will be a necessity on L...when its official, cause I think its butt ugly. Lol
Well I'm not rooted/unlocked so gravity box isn't an option for me regardless unfortunately. I think I'll give it a shot.
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Ive noticed an improvement as well. Only downside is no xposed
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Edit: I tried to switch to ART having xposed installed and it looks like the switch would take take. Interesting
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Schaweet said:
I'm using ART and Xposed works just fine for me.
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Well the developer of xposed says it doesn't work ( http://www.androidauthority.com/android-art-switch-xposed-395098/) and in the xposed FAQ one if the questions is "why does my phone switch to dalvik when I enable xposed".
So I guess all I can say is congrats? I haven't personally tried to force the two together.
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Well the developer of xposed says it doesn't work ( http://www.androidauthority.com/android-art-switch-xposed-395098/) and in the xposed FAQ one if the questions is "why does my phone switch to dalvik when I enable xposed".
So I guess all I can say is congrats?
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Haha... Yeah see my edit. I thought it switched but it wouldn't.
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So I just realized I only have 9gb free when I believe I had like 16 before. Is that because of switching to ART? Its okay because I have the 32gb moto x but just curious.
tu3218 said:
So I just realized I only have 9gb free when I believe I had like 16 before. Is that because of switching to ART? Its okay because I have the 32gb moto x but just curious.
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Yes, ART uses more space on the device.
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Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry for being rude, as a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute big squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry if I was rude, being a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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Bullseye!
Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
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Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
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Why would someone do that? Just get the regular version...
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I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/2...eive-updates-shortly-after-they-are-released/
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I sound like a broken record saying this since day 1. The OEMs have to put their proprietary drivers and kernels (firmware) into the image or the software wont' know how to communicate with the hardware. I guess if the OEMs were willing to release them to Google then I guess Google could handle the updates. Then you have to ask: why would Google take on that responsibility? Would the OEMs openly give Google those drivers in a day and age where anyone can sue anyone over anything because something looks similar to something else? None of that makes sense.
Yeah I'm kinda dissapointed... I want the latest and greatest on my N4 but still don't have it... Hopefully it's just a matter of days... Hopefully hours....
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Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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One click methods are in no way "the same thing".
Edit: I'm not trying to start an argument here, its my personal preference. If you like one click methods then thats fine.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
Once they launch will be the last time they have something the Nexus doesn't. The moment Google said that HTC/Samsung were responsible for updates and they weren't hosting/posting source means those phones will almost certainly be behind the Nexus.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden not available to the Nexus owners.
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I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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+1 Only Nexus reveal the real beauty of Android.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden still not available to the Nexus owners.
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Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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El Daddy said:
Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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Hmm...wait and watch.
why are some people sooo sensitive, "my nexus should get this first" , "all others must wait" ...
look a little out of the box, these Google Edition phones are promoting stock android, whether they'll get updates parallel with the nexus or will join after a few days/weeks delay it doesn't matter. We all want more stock android options, and that's a step in the right direction, popularizing stock bloat-free android.
So, yeah, grow up and stop acting like samsung galaxy/iphone/etc.. blinded fanboys.
Can't believe you guys are complaining about a new camera app and live wallpaper. Nexus is just asop pure android 100% Google stuff... Doesn't mean Google owes us latest of the latest updates.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
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How do you know the GE phones will get those features first? They haven't even been released yet? And they won't be in users hands until after July 9th.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?can=2&start=0&num=100&q=&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=62375
Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.
wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.
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Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.
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I know that the reason it is not on here is because of I\O wear out on the flash memory.(Crappy chip)
This device can't handle the strain of ART.
I'm just a little irritated that google won't put it in the DEVELOPER!!!! options in there stock build.
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wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.
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I love that kernel
And thanks for the second link in your sig.
I dont want to load up another build though.
And geez. I would figure that google would put it in the for crying out loud developer options.
I like it completely stock.
I start from the ground up with modifying the build to my liking.
Thats why I'm a huge fan of Xposed Framework and the Arch Linux model.
Rant^
Why complain here? is anyone significant going read it.?
I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Cor-master said:
I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em
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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em
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I really don't care that much. As far as I'm concerned my nexus 7 feels more like an antique these days and art or a new Kernal isn't going to magically make it a tegra 4 or give it another gig of ram. I was just replying to the topic that's all, wasn't my creation
More or less agreeing with the op. But I think he meant click on the original link and post your complaints there, not here
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Hello everybody!
Yes its been like for ever since i broke my HTC First and moved on and since then ive had an Atrix HD and now have a Red Nexus 5. Running lollipop.
But still i look back to this phone and still think this is probably the best phone ive owned. All day battery, great size and build quality, stock android. Yes development was always a minus, but still.
How is everyone doing?
PS: thinking of getting my sister an HTC First, its a pretty solid device hardware wise and she doesnt care much about software, she is using an old ipod touch and an ipad, shes tired of ios
Good to see someone else converting to the Android master race > lol. I agree with the fact that the battery generally lasted all day, but the lack of speed is what caused me to want to get something better. But yeah it was a good device when I came from a MyTouch 3G and then 3 Windows Phones.
Off topic here, are you seeing any drop in battery life on the official Lollipop update on your N5 compared to an AOSP version from a few days ago?
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Good to see someone else converting to the Android master race > lol. I agree with the fact that the battery generally lasted all day, but the lack of speed is what caused me to want to get something better. But yeah it was a good device when I came from a MyTouch 3G and then 3 Windows Phones.
Off topic here, are you seeing any drop in battery life on the official Lollipop update on your N5 compared to an AOSP version from a few days ago?
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Haha I've converted to android since 2011 and my sister never likes apple anyways.
Miss this community so much, looks like everyone has left like Abraham and loir.
Um at first battery life was more like battery death but after a reboot and full charge I did manage to get my minimum of 4 hours screen on time. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get 5 hours.
I was thinking moto g, vs the HTC first, but I haven't found anything in it that is better than in the First. Especially for my sis who has really small hands surprisingly (she's 5 years younger but as big as me and I'm 19...)
still using my First and still hoping to get at least KitKat so that i can pair with android wear...
but looks like no luck and i have to change my phone soon.
:crying:
but seriously between first and Moto G, i'll get the moto G
at least you get official Lollipop support. 5 hrs SOT.
The 1st gen Moto G size is not that much bigger than the 1st
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still using my First and still hoping to get at least KitKat so that i can pair with android wear...
but looks like no luck and i have to change my phone soon.
:crying:
but seriously between first and Moto G, i'll get the moto G
at least you get official Lollipop support. 5 hrs SOT.
The 1st gen Moto G size is not that much bigger than the 1st
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Yes you get software support..but this isn't for me. Its for my sister and plus I'd like to get back into hacking and stuff cause with a nexus you don't really want to tinker much
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Haha I've converted to android since 2011 and my sister never likes apple anyways.
Miss this community so much, looks like everyone has left like Abraham and loir.
Um at first battery life was more like battery death but after a reboot and full charge I did manage to get my minimum of 4 hours screen on time. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get 5 hours.
I was thinking moto g, vs the HTC first, but I haven't found anything in it that is better than in the First. Especially for my sis who has really small hands surprisingly (she's 5 years younger but as big as me and I'm 19...)
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Yeah Lloir is no longer here since he bricked his First so he just upgraded to something else. Jmz is no longer here, and I'm not sure if sun_dream is here either. I know someone was working on a CM11 port but he told me that he needed to learn more before it was going to work well enough for daily use.
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Yeah Lloir is no longer here since he bricked his First so he just upgraded to something else. Jmz is no longer here, and I'm not sure if sun_dream is here either. I know someone was working on a CM11 port but he told me that he needed to learn more before it was going to work well enough for daily use.
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I just hate to see such a good device "go to waste".
I also wish i could port cm11, atleast learn some how, but my only computer is my desktop at home, and internet at 700kbps is not enough to do anything except browse the web. But if internet wasnt a problem id definitely try even though i have no idea how.
CM puts so much effort into mainstream devices that will get updates anyways and never focus on forgotten devices.
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I just hate to see such a good device "go to waste".
I also wish i could port cm11, atleast learn some how, but my only computer is my desktop at home, and internet at 700kbps is not enough to do anything except browse the web. But if internet wasnt a problem id definitely try even though i have no idea how.
CM puts so much effort into mainstream devices that will get updates anyways and never focus on forgotten devices.
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Yeah and it's sad because it didn't use to be like that. It's gonna be even worse when CM12 is released because they said that if a device 1) is not owned by maintainers or 2) can't cooperate with the new security measures then they won't support it at all.
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Yeah and it's sad because it didn't use to be like that. It's gonna be even worse when CM12 is released because they said that if a device 1) is not owned by maintainers or 2) can't cooperate with the new security measures then they won't support it at all.
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Oh wow...yeah thats not good so I guess only options is unofficial ports.
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Oh wow...yeah thats not good so I guess only options is unofficial ports.
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Yeah probably. The best part is though that the GS3 Mini and Motorola Defy have both gotten 5.0 ports.
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Yeah probably. The best part is though that the GS3 Mini and Motorola Defy have both gotten 5.0 ports.
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I'm gonna try to contact carbon ROM and see if they could take up development here. Better than nothing.
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I'm gonna try to contact carbon ROM and see if they could take up development here. Better than nothing.
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I've never heard of Carbon ROM. Is it AOSP with added features?
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I've never heard of Carbon ROM. Is it AOSP with added features?
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Its like a more stable version of CM with more features brought over from other Roms but its not as crazy as paranoid android or aokp
I dont want to upgrade also, I know i'll miss the design of the First if I sell it
I agree, First is a great phone, stylish, great design and ergonomics, i will keep this phone no matter what. My daily driver is Moto X, 2013 model. I like to use my phone in one hand, never liked anything over 4.7-in screen size, have had Samsung S3, original Note, Note 2 and Note 3, traded them all, although i really liked S3 the most, couldn't live with the Notes. Htc First has become my backup phone. Previously, i used a Palm Pre Plus as my backup, but i finally traded it in.
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I agree, First is a great phone, stylish, great design and ergonomics, i will keep this phone no matter what. My daily driver is Moto X, 2013 model. I like to use my phone in one hand, never liked anything over 4.7-in screen size, have had Samsung S3, original Note, Note 2 and Note 3, traded them all, although i really liked S3 the most, couldn't live with the Notes. Htc First has become my backup phone. Previously, i used a Palm Pre Plus as my backup, but i finally traded it in.
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Yeah totally agree. I have a nexus 5 right now and it's quite great for one handed use. But looking for a first for my mom
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Yeah totally agree. I have a nexus 5 right now and it's quite great for one handed use. But looking for a first for my mom
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So... Is there anybody working CM on HTC first ? I guess not... It's so sad. But i still like my first.
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So... Is there anybody working CM on HTC first ? I guess not... It's so sad. But i still like my first.
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Not that I know of. It's strange considering getting drivers for this chip set should be a piece of cake...
Has anyone been able to get Xposed working on their Verizon Nexus 6 running Android 5.1? I've been trying all day and have searched and searched and followed all the workaround threads and nothing has worked. I cannot get Xposed working. I've tried the SELinux mode changer app, tried the initd script, tried flashing the zip that sets linux to permissive. Nothing is working.
So has anyone been able to get it to work on their Verizon NExus 6? If you did please share what method worked for you..
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Has anyone been able to get Xposed working on their Verizon Nexus 6 running Android 5.1? I've been trying all day and have searched and searched and followed all the workaround threads and nothing has worked. I cannot get Xposed working. I've tried the SELinux mode changer app, tried the initd script, tried flashing the zip that sets linux to permissive. Nothing is working.
So has anyone been able to get it to work on their Verizon NExus 6? If you did please share what method worked for you..
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I don't think it works on any nexus running 5.1.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...PFWlrzDGog1zF1w5w&sig2=ivFa7bsj9rSL1zrdof-SJQ
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Intub8 said:
I don't think it works on any nexus running 5.1.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...PFWlrzDGog1zF1w5w&sig2=ivFa7bsj9rSL1zrdof-SJQ
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Well crap. I didn't see that article in my searches. I guess i'll just have to wait patiently for it. Lol. In the meantime I guess i'll just find a nice feature filled rom to flash. Whah. That's lame. Thanks for the post tho, at least I'm not fruitlessly trying to get it to work anymore. I'm sure somebody will figure out how to get it working soon enough.
nicholi2789 said:
Well crap. I didn't see that article in my searches. I guess i'll just have to wait patiently for it. Lol. In the meantime I guess i'll just find a nice feature filled rom to flash. Whah. That's lame. Thanks for the post tho, at least I'm not fruitlessly trying to get it to work anymore. I'm sure somebody will figure out how to get it working soon enough.
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Yea that's the price we pay sometimes for the latest and greatest.
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Intub8 said:
Yea that's the price we pay sometimes for the latest and greatest.
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Yeah its cool. I still friggen love this device even without the sdcard slot or xposed.
just out of curiosity what does xposed do that is so great that everybody misses. And I see people are very concerned about getting it back. I glanced at it quickly and it looks like an ad blocker and a couple other features that you can get with other applications. what am I missing?
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DebianDog said:
just out of curiosity what does xposed do that is so great that everybody misses. And I see people are very concerned about getting it back. I glanced at it quickly and it looks like an ad blocker and a couple other features that you can get with other applications. what am I missing?
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Xposed got big because it brought customization to many phones that had root but locked bootloaders. It's a little less useful when you're on a custom ROM but there's a lot of app hacks. I like it to do simple things like save all my Snapchats without notifying people or unlimited skips in Pandora.
Not to mention some of the top devs prefer to work on Xposed rather than ROMs since it isn't device specific. So a stock 5.0.2 ROM with the Gravity Box module has more customization features than most of our current ROMs do. Here's the full module repository:
http://repo.xposed.info/module-overview
DebianDog said:
just out of curiosity what does xposed do that is so great that everybody misses. And I see people are very concerned about getting it back. I glanced at it quickly and it looks like an ad blocker and a couple other features that you can get with other applications. what am I missing?
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Xposed does a heck of a lot more than just block ads. The uses for it are almost endless. It allows almost limitless customization. Everything from UI modifications to, unlimited Pandora skips. It literally gives you all the options of a really really feature filled custom rom while still running the stock rom. Take some time and look through all the xposed modules for it and all the things they can do. That should give you an idea of how much you can do with it.
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Xposed does a heck of a lot more than just... Take some time and look through all the xposed modules for it and all the things they can do. That should give you an idea of how much you can do with it.
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I don't know from what I've read it looks like crack. When you guys don't have it you get all cranky and anxious perhaps I'm better not knowing [emoji85]
Thanks I'll have a second look.
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DebianDog said:
I don't know from what I've read it looks like crack. When you guys don't have it you get all cranky and anxious perhaps I'm better not knowing [emoji85]
Thanks I'll have a second look.
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For me its the little things. Like crappalinks. Don't ya hate how tapatalk does a link hijack? Fixed. Want to use Google voice to text with Swype. Fixed. Hate the stupid "hey dummy, you are using a vpn, that you know, you like installed and set up and launched?" Fixed. Removes a lot of little annoyances that the custom ROM devs are too busy making the **** work to begin with to address.
Also, Gravity Box, lol. The last six months or so of my use of my old S4 was on a Google Edition ROM port. It was by far the best performing ROM, but it also lacked features, kind of like the stock based ROMs here. Gravity Box brought almost all of the features of custom ROMs to the GE ROM.
DebianDog said:
just out of curiosity what does xposed do that is so great that everybody misses. And I see people are very concerned about getting it back. I glanced at it quickly and it looks like an ad blocker and a couple other features that you can get with other applications. what am I missing?
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Xposed is a framework that allows you to "inject" new functions, settings, code into any ROM or app. For example, you may want a custom rom so you can customise your notification quick settings. With xposed, you can install a custom module that will allow that without changing the rom. If no rom has all the features you want, find the feature you want as an xposed module and add it.. Thats what the fuss is about. Its very flexible.,
Here is one of my favourite modules on this device...
What's everyone using to block ads until xposed is available again. Tired of ads popping up in apps and YouTube.
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What's everyone using to block ads until xposed is available again. Tired of ads popping up in apps and YouTube.
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Have you tried ad away or ad free?
rootSU said:
Have you tried ad away or ad free?
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Actually I found out about adfree and tried it. Still get ads in apps. Of course YouTube still has ads too which I don't expect will be fixed until we get xposed back.
Xposed is awesome and I cannot wait to get it on 5.1. So someone asked what does it do/why use it? There are many reasons.
You want to keep the original OS after root but still want all of the features of cyanogenmod or whatever. Xposed has a lot of them and more. For instance you could set your verizon phone to tether with a click of a button, add a date in the top toolbar, change colors of things, add battery %, get rid of ads, etc. Just tons of awesome things. With my gNex I always just flashed new roms when I wanted new stuff. But with my moto X I wanted to keep the OS and still get those advantages so I used xposed and really liked it. Now with the n6 I again really like the OS so I do not want to flash a new rom so xposed it is (once its working).
I think xposed is the way of the future. No more flashing roms and stuff when you can keep your OS and just add features you want.
I really just use it to get most of the customization I used to get from custom roms without the hassle of having to flash custom roms all the time.
It will come to 5.1 just need a little patience, it didn't take that long to get it on 5.0 and that was a much bigger update.
Threads like this remind of people waiting for cydia on iOS every time there is a new update.
I miss the days when am os update didn't interfere with xposed
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I miss the days when am os update didn't interfere with xposed
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Miss the days? LOL I love the fact your reminiscing about software that has been out less than 2 years on hardware that has been out 6 months. Killing me[emoji23]
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md1008 said:
Threads like this remind of people waiting for cydia on iOS every time there is a new update.
I miss the days when am os update didn't interfere with xposed
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Yes the Android modding scene has changed drastically in the last few years. I remember when I first got into modding Android on my Verizon S3. That was also when xposed first came out. 3 flagship phone generations ago. I remember waiting for the Verizon Jelly bean update. 4.1.2 Hahaha. Gold old days. (only 3 years ago. Lol). We had actual leaked insecure bootloader on the s3. The last Samsung device on Verizon to gave a legit unlocked bootloader. Not the work around line Loki or stupid safestrap on the s5. That's why I quit the Samsung line last year and got an M8. Now I have a Nexus. Quitting Samsung was a good choice though by the looks of it, the S6 in all its variants sucks. If I wanted an iPhone I would get an iPhone.
DebianDog said:
Miss the days? LOL I love the fact your reminiscing about software that has been out less than 2 years on hardware that has been out 6 months. Killing me[emoji23]
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He was reminiscing about Cydia which has been out A LOT longer than two years.
Maybe we'll see this in a few weeks...
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-51-rolling-out-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-galaxy-s6-edge-sprint
Sprint has always beaten verizon and at&t in updates, Tmobile is first then sprint.
Verizon has to integrate and test their advanced calling features first. So they always take longer than the others, even in the best case.
JasonJoel said:
Verizon has to integrate and test their advanced calling features first. So they always take longer than the others, even in the best case.
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It's not that that takes Verizon so long, it's all the bloatware apps they have to update
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That's another theory, but that doesn't seem right as the nexus 6 took a while and it has almost no new bloat that hadn't already been ported to 5.x.
Which points the finger back to advanced calling features.
There was a small Verizon update today
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ctivation-lock-enable-roaming-in-puerto-rico/
Just wondering if this patched the exploit? I ask because if this did then there is no reason to buy the phone for me now.
T-mobile and sprint have quicker updates, I prefer to have reliable service.
I heard rumors of Verizon allowing unlocked phones on their network. Hopefully, we'll be able to use 4G phone with compatible antenas in the future, this way we won't be dependent on Vzw's updates and crappy apps
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What about 5.1 do you care so much about? Who cares if they got it out first? Verizon still has twice the network.
Doesn't 5.1 patch the memory leak? Even with the latest update after a while of using many apps I feel like the phone slows down at times, and a reboot fixes that.
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What about 5.1 do you care so much about? Who cares if they got it out first? Verizon still has twice the network.
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From what I heard, memory leak is fixed and it includes some extras features to the camera such as support for raw files and swipe u up or down l the screen to control exposure I think.
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Not worth losing root, possibly permanently!
Have 5.1.1 on TMO S6. Couldn't care less about raw support. That's what the D810 is for!
And the memory management, calling it that, is just as bad.
IMHO, Lollipop is the Windows Vista of Android.
I have a Nexus 6 and while it's better on that phone, I do miss 4.4.4. The Note 4 with 4.4.4 was butter. Providing it was a non VZW one!
So do we know how far off we are from 5.1?
mjs2011 said:
So do we know how far off we are from 5.1?
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In 4 days at 12:43 pm
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Dri94 said:
In 4 days at 12:43 pm
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LOL
So I'm guessing behind the sarcasm, the answer is that we don't know.
mjs2011 said:
So I'm guessing behind the sarcasm, the answer is that we don't know.
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The answer is that, no, no one ever knows. Unless a tech leaks information that they got a memo...the best notice you usually can expect from that is a few days.
i would love to live in a world where i can have the best network AND just relatively timely updates but that option is yet to exist.
Just like most ROMS, never ask for an ETA. Jk. I was about to post asking if anyone had heard any rumors of a timeframe, then I saw this thread, so I'm guessing no ones heard anything.
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merlin66676 said:
Just like most ROMS, never ask for an ETA. Jk. I was about to post asking if anyone had heard any rumors of a timeframe, then I saw this thread, so I'm guessing no ones heard anything.
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Correct! VZ never leaks dates or ROMs.
ChadH42 said:
Correct! VZ never leaks dates or ROMs.
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ooh they leak. i have installed many leaked updates from Verizon and on a few occasions they were difficult to get out of as they changed their mind and did not release it and so the official would not update you from the leaked as it wasnt supposed to be out.