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How Google gave me a FREE Nexus 7

This is sooo cool I had to share it with u guys.
So I was one of the first ones to per order the nexus 7
When I did it charged my card but the payment did not go through because it said there was something wrong with my card (I've use this card to make all of my google payments so it was kind of odd)
I remove and re added the card and that seemed to fix it.
on the 11th it'd attempted to charge my card but it didn't go through.
A few days latter I called customer service and they told me to remove and re add the card again but that didn't helped so after an hour with customer service the guy told me to just go to a store and buy it there and they will still give me the 25 dollar gift card.
I went the next day and as soon as I come on out of the store I received an email from google letting me know that my order has been shipped, I was really mad because I would be charged again so I called customer service and they told me to just denied the package when it arrives, 10 minutes later after talking to customer service I received an email that said my order was canceled because my card could'nt be charged (I'm sure I had enough funds).
the next day I wake up AND IT WAS THERE, A BRAND NEW NEXUS 7
I quickly check my bank statement and I was never even charged so I was thinking there something wrong with their ordering system

e-zzy1 said:
This is sooo cool I had to share it with u guys.
So I was one of the first ones to per order the nexus 7
When I did it charged my card but the payment did not go through because it said there was something wrong with my card (I've use this card to make all of my google payments so it was kind of odd)
I remove and re added the card and that seemed to fix it.
on the 11th it'd attempted to charge my card but it didn't a few days latter I called customer service and they told me to remove and re add the card again but that didn't helped so after an hour with customer service the guy told me to just go to a store and buy it there and they will still give me the 25 dollar gift card.
as soon as I come on out of the store I received an email from google letting me know that my order has been shipped, I was really mad because I would be charged again so I called customer service and they told me to just denied the package when he gets there, 10 minutes later after talking to customer service I received an email that said my order was canceled because my card could'nt be charged I'm sure I had enough funds.
the next day I wake up AND IT WAS THERE, A BRAND NEW NEXUS 7
I quickly check my bank statement and I was never even charged so I was thinking there something wrong with their ordering system
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Haha how cool is that? I wish that happened when I bought my iPad 3
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Cool........I'm sure they wont miss one N7
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Not a bright idea in posting a scam on a public forum, even if it's "accidental".

Wow so clever!
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I might be too honest for my own good .. but had a similar issue with company.. I called them and told them what happened. the guy put me on hold . His supervisor came on and said they could not believe i called to let them know this. And he asked me if would like to add a warranty on the second Device.for same cost of the one i bought. the device was a high end printer direct from hp. I said i cant afford to pay for the second one nor did i need it.. He said TO give it to a neighbor or sell it on ebay. And that they are going to let me keep it. Just out of being honest..
give it a try. your concise will feel better and you never know...

Printerscape said:
Not a bright idea in posting a scam on a public forum, even if it's "accidental".
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well if u think about it it wasn't a scam it was an error on their part. because I never intended for this to happened

You are going to contact them about this, right?
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Yea I'm too honest. Would call and offer to pay if it was me. Just remember, karma.......
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e-zzy1 said:
well if u think about it it wasn't a scam it was an error on their part. because I never intended for this to happened
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You taking advantage of it by not reporting it = scam and theft.

Printerscape said:
Not a bright idea in posting a scam on a public forum, even if it's "accidental".
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I agree, especially here, where the Mods don't look kindly upon these type of things.

e-zzy1 said:
well if u think about it it wasn't a scam it was an error on their part. because I never intended for this to happened
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Perhaps but you know better than thinking Google would give you a free Nexus 7 for no reason.

e-zzy1 said:
well if u think about it it wasn't a scam it was an error on their part. because I never intended for this to happened
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Sell it out give it to a little brother or sister. You'll feel better about it lol
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When companies will be honest with costumers , costumers will be honest with companies.
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I still think you should at least offer it back .If you think they owe you something ask for Extra credit from play store or something. If your employer double paid you WOULD you just let it go.
Guess im one of the few honest people around..

erica_renee said:
I might be too honest for my own good .. but had a similar issue with company.. I called them and told them what happened. the guy put me on hold . His supervisor came on and said they could not believe i called to let them know this. And he asked me if would like to add a warranty on the second Device.for same cost of the one i bought. the device was a high end printer direct from hp. I said i cant afford to pay for the second one nor did i need it.. He said TO give it to a neighbor or sell it on ebay. And that they are going to let me keep it. Just out of being honest..
give it a try. your concise will feel better and you never know...
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Thanks for being a decent and honest human being!

Completely inaccurate title. Google did not "give" you a free Nexus7. They accidentally shipped you one without charging you first.
What YOU chose to do now is up to you, but bragging about it on XDA seems to be a bit stupid. Either keep it and hope they don't send you a bill, or contact them and offer to pay for it or have them ship it back.

Screw that, keep the nexus! If you found a $20 bill on the ground in a mall, what would you do with it? Probably keep it. Right?
It was Google's mistake not yours

erica_renee said:
I still think you should at least offer it back .If you think they owe you something ask for Extra credit from play store or something. If your employer double paid you WOULD you just let it go.
Guess im one of the few honest people around..
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Trust me let's say your keys or your money would fall off your purse I would give it to you right away... We all work hard to earn our money... But I have no pity for companies especially Google who makes billions by selling our data and information to other companies.... Don't get me wrong you are right but that's my opinion.
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kiewee3 said:
Screw that, keep the nexus! If you found a $20 bill on the ground in a mall, what would you do with it? Probably keep it. Right?
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Most people would probably keep it and that's what's wrong with our society. Whether it's $1, $20 or $1,000,000, if it isn't yours and you took it, it's stealing.
big samm said:
When companies will be honest with costumers , costumers will be honest with companies.
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That's just you trying to justify keeping the free Nexus 7 and you know it. At the end of the day, you didn't get the Nexus 7 for free in a legit way and deep down inside you know it's wrong.

Crappy replacment policy - Advanced Replacment Only

Why is Google forcing advanced RMA's where they put a temporarily hold? Why cant it be that you send the device back they receive it and once it's cleared you get a replacement and you only get a advanced replacement if you ask for it or be presented the option to choose.
The email I was sent has the advanced replacement only with no other options!
Even if I return the device first and they say it's cleared and I click the order link there will still be a temporary charge! Why cant they update the link to be $0.00 to get a replacement and not ask for any card details? Before this happens they send you an email saying Good news your return was processed. Click here to receive your replacement free.
The policy is great for those who can put money on hold but what about those that cant or don't have the funds to back it. What. Are they forced to return the device to get a replacement?
They figure that everybody can put 200$ in funds on hold for a week with no other options expect to return it?
I also noticed that google isn't handling the returns. It appears SMS Infocom Corp is handling them out of Texas? What if they screw up and said that it's your fault so your charged for the new device?
Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty.
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Then you have to dispute it with Google or file a charge back. Wonderful
Most businesses give you the two options. The standard one that I just mentioned or the advanced replacement if they offer it.
This is bull**** IMO not allowing both options and only the advanced replacement. Even the rep on the phone at google said it was crappy. I'm serious.
I do not have the 200$ in my account to back the temporary authorization
So do I have to return it for a refund to get a replacement?

Actually it is a great policy, well at least for those of us with credit cards that aren't maxed out.
I like not having to wait the additional time it takes to send the defective unit back before getting a replacement shipped out.

BamAlmighty said:
Actually it is a great policy, well at least for those of us with credit cards that aren't maxed out.
I like not having to wait the additional time it takes to send the defective unit back before getting a replacement shipped out.
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Well that's the problem. It works for some people that are able to do so. What about the others that cant? Then it's horrible for those that cant.
Why didn't they have both options and give you the choice?
I'm still awaiting a email from Google about it.
Seems like I'm forced to return it for a refund to a replacement.

It is logistically easier to do it the way they are doing it... Quite different if you are dealing with a brick and mortar shop, just go in and exchange it. No risk of having extra hardware floating around.
As for having a third party company to deal with the returns is not all that unusual. A lot of companies do that.
Not sure how many people would buy a Nexus if their card(s) were maxed out.

Did you call Asus, see which options they have.
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If they wanna hold another $249 from me that's fine. I also buy things when I know I have room on my credit card as well as my bank account.

krelvinaz said:
It is logistically easier to do it the way they are doing it... Quite different if you are dealing with a brick and mortar shop, just go in and exchange it. No risk of having extra hardware floating around.
As for having a third party company to deal with the returns is not all that unusual. A lot of companies do that.
Not sure how many people would buy a Nexus if their card(s) were maxed out.
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Alot of people used bank accounts and not credit cards. Why are people getting the notion that everybody has a credit card they can use to back it?
See that's the problem. Makes it easier for them but harder for those who cant put a temporary charge.

rafa3L said:
Did you call Asus, see which options they have.
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I could try that.
I'm tempted to just say screw it and keep it an deal with it due to the policy. If it breaks then deal with Asus down the road.

pclov3r said:
Alot of people used bank accounts and not credit cards. Why are people getting the notion that everybody has a credit card they can use to back it?
See that's the problem. Makes it easier for them but harder for those who cant put a temporary charge.
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Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.

krelvinaz said:
Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.
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Yeah. They figured everybody has a credit card or bank accounts with the cash to temporarily fund it?
Still BS imo that they don't have the other option. I may be forced to return it for refund or deal with it as is. I figured they would give you both options.
"If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it." Yes, But what other options do I have? Google is giving you no other option it seems expect to return it for a refund or deal with ASUS. As i said even the google rep said this wasn't going to work for everybody!
I'm hoping they can do what I said in the first post and honestly I see no reason why they wouldn't unless there system doesn't work.
I'm awaiting another reply form upper Management i guess about this.

krelvinaz said:
Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.
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A strange elitist comment, so this guy paid in full for a tablet but in order to get a warranty replacement he should have calculated in double the price of the tablet, before he even purchased the tablet?
Went through the RMA process and it came off as Google was not quite sure how to handle advanced replacements, the whole emailing me a special link to buy a replacement tablet as it were. Was completely half ass'ed, they already have mine/our billing info why not just do anything with anyone's money after a tech has gave it once over
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BrianDigital said:
A strange elitist comment, so this guy paid in full for a tablet but in order to get a warranty replacement he should have calculated in double the price of the tablet, before he even purchased the tablet?
Went through the RMA process and it came off as Google was not quite sure how to handle advanced replacements, the whole emailing me a special link to buy a replacement tablet as it were. Was completely half ass'ed, they already have mine/our billing info why not just do anything with anyone's money after a tech has gave it once over
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Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."

pclov3r said:
Well that's the problem. It works for some people that are able to do so. What about the others that cant? Then it's horrible for those that cant.
Why didn't they have both options and give you the choice?
I'm still awaiting a email from Google about it.
Seems like I'm forced to return it for a refund to a replacement.
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First, first world problem. Second, sounds like you don't have your priorities straight. 3rd life ain't easy. 4th if you don't like it complain to them and do business with companies that meet your needs. Last, owning a N7 is not a right you aren't entitled.
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pclov3r said:
Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."
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I've never had to return my asus laptop and netbook to them since I have warranties with best buy but I really haven't heard a lot of good things with asus and their warranty. Personally that's why I'm sticking with google at the moment. My original was epic screen lift and I got replacement on friday and haven't hardly used it between friday and saturday due to work and it has a dead pixel and something is rattling around near the top. I'd rather have Google 2 day me a new one then wait god knows how long for asus.

pclov3r said:
Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."
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Ever hear of money orders., paying by cash as in waiting until you can walk into a store and buy one. You are wrong, there are many options starting with take your business elsewhere.
By the way I would be careful suggesting something is shady that is pretty much a common business practice.
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So, if I have to RMA, I have to have an additional $199 for the tablet on a credit card? I thought the policy was for Google to try to take the additional money AFTER the amount of time has passed that they didn't receive the tablet back (21 days?).
It's going to be real tricky trying to keep $200 on a card... especially since bills and stuff usually take my card below $200 each month. But then again, I guess I can hope to have a flawless device

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By the way I would be careful suggesting something is shady that is pretty much a common business practice.
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So it's common for businesses to force you to do an advanced replacement with no other options when 10 other businesses I've dealt with offer what I'm saying?
So in your option you should have double the cost of an item on your card before you buy it for this very reason?
Let me make it very clear
NOT EVERYBODY HAS A CREDIT CARD OR $200 IN EXTRA MONEY THEY CAN PUT ON HOLD FOR THE NEXT WEEK AND A HALF!!!
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT
DO YOU BUY PRODUCTS AND SAY THAT YOU NEED DOUBLE THE AMOUNT ENCASE THE PRODUCT IS DEFECTIVE? NO!
SERIOUSLY!

espionage724 said:
So, if I have to RMA, I have to have an additional $199 for the tablet on a credit card? I thought the policy was for Google to try to take the additional money AFTER the amount of time has passed that they didn't receive the tablet back (21 days?).
It's going to be real tricky trying to keep $200 on a card... especially since bills and stuff usually take my card below $200 each month. But then again, I guess I can hope to have a flawless device
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They're not "taking" your money. They're putting a temporary authorization of the amount of whatever account you're using for the replacement (such as a bank account, credit card, etc.) Once they receive the defective tablet within 21 days and make sure it's all good then they'll take that temp authorization off your account. But if it's not returned to them within the 21 days that's when I believe they can charge you.
This will explain it more too
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html

funkyboy1281 said:
They're not "taking" your money. They're putting a temporary authorization of the amount of whatever account you're using for the replacement (such as a bank account, credit card, etc.) Once they receive the defective tablet within 21 days and make sure it's all good then they'll take that temp authorization off your account. But if it's not returned to them within the 21 days that's when I believe they can charge you.
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Yes, But the problem occurs when you don't have the extra money to put on hold.

pclov3r said:
Yes, But the problem occurs when you don't have the extra money to put on hold.
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Yea well sorry to burst your bubble but the minute you ordered your tablet and an email was sent to you saying thank you for your purchase they provided the link to their devices support. So from that moment they laid out the whole process of how this would work. Now whether or not you read it well that was your choice but all that information was there and just didn't mysteriously show up.
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html

Big Warranty Improvement over Samsung Nexus

So I just had to do initialize a warranty replacement for my phone due to the 'creaking' some people reported involving the corner of the phone. I just don't want to risk it getting worse or me being annoyed to no end because of it so I figured do it sooner than later.
Anyway, I called today because I assumed that the same policy that governed the Galaxy Nexus applied (You have two weeks from the date you get the phone to do a clean-and-clear replacement of the device for warranty issues anything after that requires mailing out for repair.)
However, the guy I talked to tells me that this warranty is different than the Samsung. Like with purchasing a phone through a carrier, if your phone has any problem covered by the warranty, they will replace the device no matter how long it's been since you purchased it (so long as it is still within the 1-year warranty)
I have to say I am so so very pleased to see this! My greatest fear with buying the phone is that if something went wrong I would have to mail it out and be without a phone for several weeks like was the case with the Galaxy Nexus. I figured since so many people have no shortage of complaints about the device I would share something that has very much improved!

Is this warranty through your carrier or LG?
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Redmed427 said:
Is this warranty through your carrier or LG?
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I was thinking Google.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.

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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Wow that sounds pretty great. About the one thing Google got right about this whole process lol. Sounds like they were expecting lots of returns.
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ohhdavid said:
I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Where is this policy published?
That's good news. I am getting my phone this week but I'm too busy with work related stuff that needs to be completed before I fly out to Europe for vacation until mid. January.
I was afraid of discovering an issue when on vacation and getting screwed just because I cannot receive a new phone and send in the old one. No need to worry I guess.

The 'hold to cross-ship' replacement policy has been in place since the Nexus One days, and is a great policy.

It's not actually THAT great. Everyone doesn't have $400 disposable at any given time. So say I don't have any money and my device breaks then I'm S.O.L.. That my friend is not okay. They can't put a hold on a card if there's no funds there.
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They also mention to contact them if a hold on a card is not feasible and they'll be able to work with you. I just had one done
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Freshly_Snipes said:
It's not actually THAT great. Everyone doesn't have $400 disposable at any given time. So say I don't have any money and my device breaks then I'm S.O.L.. That my friend is not okay. They can't put a hold on a card if there's no funds there.
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Never SOL on a legit RMA claim. .cross-ship is just a great option offered, especially if your phone is somewhat functional, you're not out of use at all while you get new unit. Besided it's not El Goog's fault you're broke.
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Yep the warranty through the play store is the only reason I didn't buy from elsewhere... Well that and the price. They always do advance replacement instead of having you ship the thing back on your own device and wait more than a month to get it back. It's one of the few things Google got right with their hardware selling venture. Unfortunately for me, I have terrible luck with replacements. Couldn't get an n7 that wasn't more borked than the previous one. My n10 has a very slight issue but the replacement has the worst screen I've ever seen. Didn't want to go through the hassle of endless card authorizations and shipping devices back and forth so I'm just going to keep it. My n4 has bad light bleed and half the screen is yellow so its replacement is on its way to me and I pray this one breaks my replacement curse. I wish they actually did some kind of qc on their replacement stock before shipping, especially given that critical buyers with problems are much more likely to scrutinize the replacement device once they have had a bad experience to begin with.
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Edit: Google swipe isn't perfect yet

This warranty system sounds great, but do they send a prepaid shipping label or is that from our own pockets?

SovereigN7 said:
This warranty system sounds great, but do they send a prepaid shipping label or is that from our own pockets?
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Google supplies the shipping labels.
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wideasleep1 said:
Never SOL on a legit RMA claim. .cross-ship is just a great option offered, especially if your phone is somewhat functional, you're not out of use at all while you get new unit. Besided it's not El Goog's fault you're broke.
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well if it's just a hold then it doesnt havt't to be 400 bucks, it can just be a dollar and if you dont send in your phone then they charge for the one they sent out, im assuming?
like going to the gas station and how its a dollar until it runs through the system

Garciahenry63 said:
well if it's just a hold then it doesnt havt't to be 400 bucks, it can just be a dollar and if you dont send in your phone then they charge for the one they sent out, im assuming?
like going to the gas station and how its a dollar until it runs through the system
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The problem here is, people are far from honest. I see people here claiming fraud for a lot of things just to get something for free. Number one I've noticed are fraudulent warranty claims. Or selling a broken phone on ebay as working. Everybody lies.
Would Google really send out a phone for "free"? It only makes sense that they charge you for what it's worth. Think of it as a core charge when turning in an alternator or some high priced item for repair. You don't return it? It's your money you're losing.

I hope this is true because with my galaxy nexus they told I needed to contact samsung if it was a hardware problem because they only deal with software problems.So after I contacted samsung I had to ship my phone to them and waited 2 weeks get it replaced and I had no other phone to use because it was my 1st gsm phone after leaving Verizon so I could be contract free.So my 1st experience with them sucked.

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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Just to clarify on the last point.. You have 21 days to return it from the day you receive the email detailing how to order a replacement (sent by the rep you speak with on the phone) and so if your replacement takes 14 days to ship, 2 days to arrive you've only got 5 days left to get it back to them which is cutting it short. :/
Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the email says at the top.
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Okay so keep an open mind here guys.
I initiated an RMA last night and I fully intend to return my defective device, but the whole deal with them shipping you a new phone before you send yours back raises an interesting question.
What'd happen if you didn't send yours back and just kept the two? Obviously you'd be charged for both so there's no theft going on, but for those that wanted to purchase 2 and coul could only get one, could they theoretically 'buy' another device this way? It'd be unethical of course, you scamming (in a sense) a phone that countless people are trying to get their hands on, but no more unethical than those scalpers on eBay. They say you have 21 days to return it otherwise your card will be charged, so this could be a very sneaky method of beating the queue.
Like I said before it's unethical and I don't intend to do it, but for those that want a second device for their partner or for someone else... Food for thought I suppose.

jrush4 said:
Okay so keep an open mind here guys.
I initiated an RMA last night and I fully intend to return my defective device, but the whole deal with them shipping you a new phone before you send yours back raises an interesting question.
What'd happen if you didn't send yours back and just kept the two? Obviously you'd be charged for both so there's no theft going on, but for those that wanted to purchase 2 and coul could only get one, could they theoretically 'buy' another device this way? It'd be unethical of course, you scamming (in a sense) a phone that countless people are trying to get their hands on, but no more unethical than those scalpers on eBay. They say you have 21 days to return it otherwise your card will be charged, so this could be a very sneaky method of beating the queue.
Like I said before it's unethical and I don't intend to do it, but for those that want a second device for their partner or for someone else... Food for thought I suppose.
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Well they would get to keep the money they put on hold, and charge you for full shipping.
They would also probably black list you as a customer, so you could never order from them again.

DarkRyoushii said:
Just to clarify on the last point.. You have 21 days to return it from the day you receive the email detailing how to order a replacement (sent by the rep you speak with on the phone) and so if your replacement takes 14 days to ship, 2 days to arrive you've only got 5 days left to get it back to them which is cutting it short. :/
Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the email says at the top.
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No, it's from the date you received the replacement. Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the e-mail says.
UNDERSTANDING CREDIT CARD AUTHORIZATION (NOT A CHARGE)
An authorization for the full price of the replacement device will be placed on your credit card when you place the order in step one. This means that a portion of your card’s credit limit is held for several days, but no charge is made if your original device arrives at our repair center no longer than 21 days from the date of receiving your replacement device is verified to be covered under warranty.
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Nexus 4/Google Play rant

So a month ago I ordered a nexus 4 8gb. The next day my friend decided he wanted to sell he's nexus 4 8gb. He said he will sell it to me for 300$ instead of 372$ from the play store. Of course I bought it. I wanted to cancel my order so went on my Google wallet account to cancel it. Surprise it doesn't work. Take note that the phone hasn't shipped yet. I call them and I explain to them that I will like to cancel my order. The lady tells me that my order has been processed and she can't cancel. She than tells me I have to wait until it comes and wen
UPS arrives at my door to return it to the sender. I asked if this was a joke. I never in my life heard of that. If an item hasn't shipped yet isn't it easier to stop it before it leaves ? I didn't make a big story and did what she said. I was charged the 372$. Tracked with UPS and when it was near my house, called UPS and said that I refuse the order and that they may send it back to the sender. Perfect they sent it back. And it arrived back to them the Friday, *02/15/2013 at*9:30. I emailed them to know when they will refund me.
They said : If your package is unopened, Google will issue a refund to the card originally charged within 2 weeks.
I'm OK with that no problem.
2 weeks pass. I call them starting to get annoyed.
Now they changed the 2 weeks to 14 businesses days :banghead:
But in the first email they sent they clearly said 2 weeks if package was unopened.
"Thank you for contacting Google Play Hardware Support.
I understand your concern and frustration with the refund for the returned Nexus 4 device.
If your package is unopened, Google will issue a refund to the card originally charged for the order within 2 weeks.
If your package was opened, your returned device must first be inspected before determining the validity of the refund request. Results of the inspection will generally be available within 14 business days after your device is returned."
I remind you that my nexus 4 didn't even make it to my door. Emailed them and got the same message pasted again. Called them and wanted to talk to a supervisor. They said that 14 working days is their policies blabla and that they can't do anything for me.
I was really annoyed and decided to wait the 14 work days. Which was last Friday. I was supposed to get my refund, or at least it should appear on my Google wallet account, but again nothing.
Emailed them back and this is what they sent me back :
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Google. I've forwarded your case to a specialist to check on the status of your return. I do apologize for all of the hassle and I would definitely be frustrated were I in this situation, but rest assured I am going to do all I can to resolve the situation quickly for you.
In the meantime, if you come across any other information that you'd like to pass along, please feel free to reply to this email. Your responses will automatically go to the specialist working on your case.
Thanks again for your patience and understanding.
My regards,
Erin*
Google Play Support.
10 minutes later I got a new email :
Hello,
If your package is unopened, Google will issue a refund to the card originally charged for the order within 3-5*Business.
If your package was opened, your returned device must first be inspected before determining the validity of the refund request. Results of the inspection will generally be available within 14 business days after your device is returned.
If your refund has already been processed by Google, it may take a few business days for your account to reflect this. Please contact your bank directly if you would like additional details on receiving the funds from a processed refund.
You can always check to see if a refund has been processed by visiting https://wallet.google.com/
My regards,
Erin*
Google Play Support.
I think I am about to explode. Google customer is the worst customer service I ever had.
Now my question is: what to do next ?
Never buying a device from the Google store, NEVER.
/rant
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Superpopsss said:
So a month ago I ordered a nexus 4 8gb. The next day my friend decided he wanted to sell he's nexus 4 8gb. He said he will sell it to me for 300$ instead of 372$ from the play store. Of course I bought it. I wanted to cancel my order so went on my Google wallet account to cancel it. Surprise it doesn't work. Take note that the phone hasn't shipped yet. I call them and I explain to them that I will like to cancel my order. The lady tells me that my order has been processed and she can't cancel. She than tells me I have to wait until it comes and wen
UPS arrives at my door to return it to the sender. I asked if this was a joke. I never in my life heard of that. If an item hasn't shipped yet isn't it easier to stop it before it leaves ? I didn't make a big story and did what she said. I was charged the 372$. Tracked with UPS and when it was near my house, called UPS and said that I refuse the order and that they may send it back to the sender. Perfect they sent it back. And it arrived back to them the Friday, *02/15/2013 at*9:30. I emailed them to know when they will refund me.
They said : If your package is unopened, Google will issue a refund to the card originally charged within 2 weeks.
I'm OK with that no problem.
2 weeks pass. I call them starting to get annoyed.
Now they changed the 2 weeks to 14 businesses days :banghead:
But in the first email they sent they clearly said 2 weeks if package was unopened.
"Thank you for contacting Google Play Hardware Support.
I understand your concern and frustration with the refund for the returned Nexus 4 device.
If your package is unopened, Google will issue a refund to the card originally charged for the order within 2 weeks.
If your package was opened, your returned device must first be inspected before determining the validity of the refund request. Results of the inspection will generally be available within 14 business days after your device is returned."
I remind you that my nexus 4 didn't even make it to my door. Emailed them and got the same message pasted again. Called them and wanted to talk to a supervisor. They said that 14 working days is their policies blabla and that they can't do anything for me.
I was really annoyed and decided to wait the 14 work days. Which was last Friday. I was supposed to get my refund, or at least it should appear on my Google wallet account, but again nothing.
Emailed them back and this is what they sent me back :
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Google. I've forwarded your case to a specialist to check on the status of your return. I do apologize for all of the hassle and I would definitely be frustrated were I in this situation, but rest assured I am going to do all I can to resolve the situation quickly for you.
In the meantime, if you come across any other information that you'd like to pass along, please feel free to reply to this email. Your responses will automatically go to the specialist working on your case.
Thanks again for your patience and understanding.
My regards,
Erin*
Google Play Support.
10 minutes later I got a new email :
Hello,
If your package is unopened, Google will issue a refund to the card originally charged for the order within 3-5*Business.
If your package was opened, your returned device must first be inspected before determining the validity of the refund request. Results of the inspection will generally be available within 14 business days after your device is returned.
If your refund has already been processed by Google, it may take a few business days for your account to reflect this. Please contact your bank directly if you would like additional details on receiving the funds from a processed refund.
You can always check to see if a refund has been processed by visiting https://wallet.google.com/
My regards,
Erin*
Google Play Support.
I think I am about to explode. Google customer is the worst customer service I ever had.
Now my question is: what to do next ?
Never buying a device from the Google store, NEVER.
/rant
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First thing is that I always call when I need a customer service instead of sending e-mails. I think you can call them again, and ask why tyou still
haven't get the refund because it's already been 28 days. Call with friendly attitude will help you a lot although I know you are angry and
frustrated. If I'm a customer service support, and I have a customer angry at me for no reason ( since I'm not the one who will issue you a
refund...), I will probably mess up your order again, and make you even more frustrated....This is just my thought.
Good Luck.

I called 2 times and was very polite both times, but it still didn't help.
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Superpopsss said:
I called 2 times and was very polite both times, but it still didn't help.
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Then the ugly truth is that you still have to call them until you get your money back because "you want the money back". so you gotta do what you
gotta do....

Yeah, keep calling if you have to. I did the same thing on an RMA and got too busy at work to follow up, but never got my refund after a couple of months. By then I decided I wanted to try the device again, had to call a few times but I got it resolved. Not the same thing as getting a refund though.

IBTB
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Hmmmm
Called them and they said they are having issues with their returns because they are using a new automated return service. It's been 26 working days and still not a single trace of a refund. I personally think it's a joke.
If any one has the same problems please let me know on G+: https://plus.google.com/113646711037636263033/posts
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If they forewarded to a specialist, then it should be done soon....
I had to RMA my nexus 10 like 5 times so i had like 5 charges on my card for 399$, until it was forwarded to a "specialist" then they took all the charges off....
After my fifth RMA they just refunded my nexus 10... after having one since launch date...
So if you want a refund just keep doing RMA but don't order a new device? just kidding just kidding don't do it, it will not work

Ranting? IBL

In short, you bought something in error, and it's somebody else's fault.
#EPICFAIL

CrazyPeter said:
In short, you bought something in error, and it's somebody else's fault.
#EPICFAIL
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yea dude you can't be complaining that much about it under your circumstances . . they're not going to steal your money .. if its the last $370 bucks you got be on them but besides that chillout we all know their whole online ordering/RMA/support is ****ty lol

icecicle said:
yea dude you can't be complaining that much about it under your circumstances . . they're not going to steal your money .. if its the last $370 bucks you got be on them but besides that chillout we all know their whole online ordering/RMA/support is ****ty lol
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I dunno, so far so good with their support for me. I'm in the middle of an RMA for a Nexus 4 because it won't read any SIM cards (hmm perhaps jamming my old nano sized cut up non-sanded SIM into it half way to see if it would work out of curiosity was not a good idea) and I've had to call once, and send a few emails and they've been quick and polite so far.
I work in customer service too and unfortunately things can slip through the cracks. It's sad but when it happens it's very hard to get it back out. Usually when a rep finally is able to resolve your issue after a lot of BS, they'll provide some sort of credit or bonus to make you happy for having to put up with it, because it really isn't your fault. especially if you make it clear you've been very frustrated and inconvenienced. In this case, their response of "we're switching to a new system" sounds plausible. Just keep following up with them, and ask for a supervisor each time you call so some nice heavy duty supervisor notes get left on your ticket as it crawls its way through the system.

That's why I never returned the faulty device back cause after getting RMA device the money that Google holds until I send my faulty device back got expired and my bank put that money back to my account and never sent the faulty one back. Screw up Google
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How did it cost you 372 for the 8 GB? Outside US? And I know your pain- as soon as you get charged the order is almost impossible to cancel.
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Exactly why I got mine from TMO(obviously have to live in the US to do so). I was able to get my N4 16Gb for less than $200, got lucky and was able to get it on release for TMO. That unit had terrible light bleeding and received my replacement within 2 days of calling it in.
Before anyone says anything about a contract I have been with TMO for over 10 years, I have 3 lines and all have unlimited data 5GB and I pay less than $190 a month after all fees and taxes. So doing an upgrade does not bother me, plus they always help me out when I want a new phone.

big_b0sss said:
That's why I never returned the faulty device back cause after getting RMA device the money that Google holds until I send my faulty device back got expired and my bank put that money back to my account and never sent the faulty one back. Screw up Google
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I'd be careful. I'd be scared of google randomly coming after me for another $300+ charge to get that money back. probly just when the cell bill is due too!

matt0401 said:
I'd be careful. I'd be scared of google randomly coming after me for another $300+ charge to get that money back. probly just when the cell bill is due too!
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Well my friend told me the same thing but took a risk if they do charge me I'm gonna sell that phone for a cheap price but if they forget then happy days
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saldebot said:
Exactly why I got mine from TMO(obviously have to live in the US to do so). I was able to get my N4 16Gb for less than $200, got lucky and was able to get it on release for TMO. That unit had terrible light bleeding and received my replacement within 2 days of calling it in.
Before anyone says anything about a contract I have been with TMO for over 10 years, I have 3 lines and all have unlimited data 5GB and I pay less than $190 a month after all fees and taxes. So doing an upgrade does not bother me, plus they always help me out when I want a new phone.
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I'm not trying to be that guy but since you were bragging about price... You could get straight talk tmobile service with same unlimited service for 3 lines 135 a month. Or if you don't talk much use the 30 dollar tmobile prepaid plan. But I have no problem if you choose your route. Just saying.
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You're not a mod. Shut the hell up.
To OP. I don't see anything out of the norm for a typical online retailer. You sound very impatient.

[Q] Opinions on Nexus program warranty?

My touch screen recently stopped responding altogether. I've had intermittent problems with it, sometimes seeming to be related to whether or not the charger was plugged in (as I've seen some other complaints about this), and sometimes simply inexplicably temporarily stupid. It's been unresponsive entirely for about two weeks now, though. The phone never got wet, bent, dropped, etc.
I called Google's Nexus support and talked to them about it for a while. We did a bunch of stuff over the phone that I deemed entirely unnecessary but did just to placate the customer service rep on the phone with me. I cleared cache, wiped the phone, flashed the latest OTA, basically everything I could do except take it apart while the touchscreen doesn't work. We settled (finally) on needing to RMA the phone.
After creating and setting up the RMA, I was informed that they need to place a $400 on my account while we cross-ship the device. After they checked the device out and the moisture indicator came up clean and whatnot, I'd get my money back. I'm pretty poor, especially given that I have three children, and can't really loan Google $400. I told the rep that if possible, I wanted to simply send them my phone and wait until they did whatever they needed to do, then either told me to eff off or sent me a new phone. He said he'd have to talk to his lead. He did so, and was told that no, there's absolutely no way I could send them my inoperative phone and wait until they could confirm I'd been sent a dud. I have to fork over $400, absolutely, no matter what, until they determine that I'm not a jackass trying to get over on them.
Feeling that this was completely illogical and that there was no way Google would have a ridiculous policy like this, with no exception, I decided to try again a few days later. I talked to a different rep about the situation and was fed basically the exact same verbatim line. I purchased my Nexus 5 on launch day, 6 November. My warranty runs up in a few months and I'll be heading to Afghanistan for an all-expenses paid vacation right before it does. I'm pretty furious about the whole ordeal and, basically, I want to know what kind of experiences other people have had regarding Google's warranty program?
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Same for me. :/

Different story here (Hong Kong), I can just drop it at LG service center then they will take care of it.
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Actually, that brings me to another point. I was advised to call LG to see what they could do for me. LG told me that if I paid to ship it to them, they'd happily repair it for money, then charge me to ship it back. US warranty repair/replacement is all through Google, they told me.
That's a fantastic piece of advice I was offered.

I don't really see the problem. You have a credit card, right? When I had my Nexus 5 replaced, I gave them my credit card number, a pending charge for $400 showed up, and after they received my phone, the pending charge went away. I don't even think the charge ever went past pending on my credit card. I certainly didn't have to actually pay or lend them $400 of my own money.

gtg465x said:
I don't really see the problem. You have a credit card, right?
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No. So it's a problem.

DummyPLUG said:
Different story here (Hong Kong), I can just drop it at LG service center then they will take care of it.
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Same here in Slovenia, you Americans are really getting robbed by that capitalism lol,to give them a 400$ loan I mean omg,and I'm grateful that I live in the EU where the rights of consumers are protected and every phone bought here has a 24month warranty
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solacelost said:
After creating and setting up the RMA, I was informed that they need to place a $400 on my account while we cross-ship the device. After they checked the device out and the moisture indicator came up clean and whatnot, I'd get my money back. I'm pretty poor, especially given that I have three children, and can't really loan Google $400. I told the rep that if possible, I wanted to simply send them my phone and wait until they did whatever they needed to do, then either told me to eff off or sent me a new phone. He said he'd have to talk to his lead. He did so, and was told that no, there's absolutely no way I could send them my inoperative phone and wait until they could confirm I'd been sent a dud. I have to fork over $400, absolutely, no matter what, until they determine that I'm not a jackass trying to get over on them.
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I assume that Google is doing the "we send you a new phone and once you get it, you send us back the old phone while we hold the price of a Nexus 5 on your credit card account" if I understand your post correctly. I find it a little funny that people can hate this method, as you do, while other people, like myself, love doing it this way.
I had to RMA my Nexus 5 after 1 month of use because it kept rebooting and I was so happy that I was allowed to keep my defective phone (because it can still be used, even though it annoyingly reboots) while waiting for a new device to be shipped to me. I wouldn't know what to do if I had NO cell phone for however long it takes for me to first send them my defective phone and then wait for them to process it and send a replacement phone. I'd guess that would probably take upwards of 2 weeks.
When I used Logitech's RMA process for my mouse, I had to beg them to use the same process. How was I supposed to use my desktop computer with no mouse for 2+ weeks while waiting for a replacement?
Overall, I think Google's warranty program is setup to be consumer friendly, but I can see how it can be a headache for those that are poor.

Also, having my device while waiting for the replacement isn't super useful to me if the entire touchscreen is inoperative. That's the point I tried to make with Google, I don't need a new device ASAP because this one is just as useless as no device. I'm already using an old phone (which I can't stand...).

teonagode said:
Same here in Slovenia, you Americans are really getting robbed by that capitalism lol,to give them a 400$ loan I mean omg,and I'm grateful that I live in the EU where the rights of consumers are protected and every phone bought here has a 24month warranty
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Money is sent to Google so they can send out a second device. Once you have 2x Nexus phones in your hands you can then decide which you want to return and are never left device-less.
There is no loan, just a short hold on your credit card in case you keep both. Cross shipping is a valuable service, but you can choose to deal with LG and be in the same boat as most non-Google phone owners who are forced to wait a month or so for service.

If you don't have $400 to put up as collateral, I would just get a credit card. There are a lot of benefits to having a credit card. You can get 1% to 5% cash back on everything you buy, build credit, get better fraud protection than a debit or ATM card, and you can use it in situations like this as collateral instead of loaning a company your own money.
I do agree that Google should allow standard, old fashioned RMAs for people without credit cards who don't mind waiting though. That sucks.

+1 just RMA my device... Use a credit card they won't charge it just a temporary authorization so no money actually changing hands. Once your device is back in their hands they will cancel the authorization.
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