My touch screen recently stopped responding altogether. I've had intermittent problems with it, sometimes seeming to be related to whether or not the charger was plugged in (as I've seen some other complaints about this), and sometimes simply inexplicably temporarily stupid. It's been unresponsive entirely for about two weeks now, though. The phone never got wet, bent, dropped, etc.
I called Google's Nexus support and talked to them about it for a while. We did a bunch of stuff over the phone that I deemed entirely unnecessary but did just to placate the customer service rep on the phone with me. I cleared cache, wiped the phone, flashed the latest OTA, basically everything I could do except take it apart while the touchscreen doesn't work. We settled (finally) on needing to RMA the phone.
After creating and setting up the RMA, I was informed that they need to place a $400 on my account while we cross-ship the device. After they checked the device out and the moisture indicator came up clean and whatnot, I'd get my money back. I'm pretty poor, especially given that I have three children, and can't really loan Google $400. I told the rep that if possible, I wanted to simply send them my phone and wait until they did whatever they needed to do, then either told me to eff off or sent me a new phone. He said he'd have to talk to his lead. He did so, and was told that no, there's absolutely no way I could send them my inoperative phone and wait until they could confirm I'd been sent a dud. I have to fork over $400, absolutely, no matter what, until they determine that I'm not a jackass trying to get over on them.
Feeling that this was completely illogical and that there was no way Google would have a ridiculous policy like this, with no exception, I decided to try again a few days later. I talked to a different rep about the situation and was fed basically the exact same verbatim line. I purchased my Nexus 5 on launch day, 6 November. My warranty runs up in a few months and I'll be heading to Afghanistan for an all-expenses paid vacation right before it does. I'm pretty furious about the whole ordeal and, basically, I want to know what kind of experiences other people have had regarding Google's warranty program?
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Same for me. :/
Different story here (Hong Kong), I can just drop it at LG service center then they will take care of it.
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Actually, that brings me to another point. I was advised to call LG to see what they could do for me. LG told me that if I paid to ship it to them, they'd happily repair it for money, then charge me to ship it back. US warranty repair/replacement is all through Google, they told me.
That's a fantastic piece of advice I was offered.
I don't really see the problem. You have a credit card, right? When I had my Nexus 5 replaced, I gave them my credit card number, a pending charge for $400 showed up, and after they received my phone, the pending charge went away. I don't even think the charge ever went past pending on my credit card. I certainly didn't have to actually pay or lend them $400 of my own money.
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I don't really see the problem. You have a credit card, right?
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No. So it's a problem.
DummyPLUG said:
Different story here (Hong Kong), I can just drop it at LG service center then they will take care of it.
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Same here in Slovenia, you Americans are really getting robbed by that capitalism lol,to give them a 400$ loan I mean omg,and I'm grateful that I live in the EU where the rights of consumers are protected and every phone bought here has a 24month warranty
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After creating and setting up the RMA, I was informed that they need to place a $400 on my account while we cross-ship the device. After they checked the device out and the moisture indicator came up clean and whatnot, I'd get my money back. I'm pretty poor, especially given that I have three children, and can't really loan Google $400. I told the rep that if possible, I wanted to simply send them my phone and wait until they did whatever they needed to do, then either told me to eff off or sent me a new phone. He said he'd have to talk to his lead. He did so, and was told that no, there's absolutely no way I could send them my inoperative phone and wait until they could confirm I'd been sent a dud. I have to fork over $400, absolutely, no matter what, until they determine that I'm not a jackass trying to get over on them.
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I assume that Google is doing the "we send you a new phone and once you get it, you send us back the old phone while we hold the price of a Nexus 5 on your credit card account" if I understand your post correctly. I find it a little funny that people can hate this method, as you do, while other people, like myself, love doing it this way.
I had to RMA my Nexus 5 after 1 month of use because it kept rebooting and I was so happy that I was allowed to keep my defective phone (because it can still be used, even though it annoyingly reboots) while waiting for a new device to be shipped to me. I wouldn't know what to do if I had NO cell phone for however long it takes for me to first send them my defective phone and then wait for them to process it and send a replacement phone. I'd guess that would probably take upwards of 2 weeks.
When I used Logitech's RMA process for my mouse, I had to beg them to use the same process. How was I supposed to use my desktop computer with no mouse for 2+ weeks while waiting for a replacement?
Overall, I think Google's warranty program is setup to be consumer friendly, but I can see how it can be a headache for those that are poor.
Also, having my device while waiting for the replacement isn't super useful to me if the entire touchscreen is inoperative. That's the point I tried to make with Google, I don't need a new device ASAP because this one is just as useless as no device. I'm already using an old phone (which I can't stand...).
teonagode said:
Same here in Slovenia, you Americans are really getting robbed by that capitalism lol,to give them a 400$ loan I mean omg,and I'm grateful that I live in the EU where the rights of consumers are protected and every phone bought here has a 24month warranty
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Money is sent to Google so they can send out a second device. Once you have 2x Nexus phones in your hands you can then decide which you want to return and are never left device-less.
There is no loan, just a short hold on your credit card in case you keep both. Cross shipping is a valuable service, but you can choose to deal with LG and be in the same boat as most non-Google phone owners who are forced to wait a month or so for service.
If you don't have $400 to put up as collateral, I would just get a credit card. There are a lot of benefits to having a credit card. You can get 1% to 5% cash back on everything you buy, build credit, get better fraud protection than a debit or ATM card, and you can use it in situations like this as collateral instead of loaning a company your own money.
I do agree that Google should allow standard, old fashioned RMAs for people without credit cards who don't mind waiting though. That sucks.
+1 just RMA my device... Use a credit card they won't charge it just a temporary authorization so no money actually changing hands. Once your device is back in their hands they will cancel the authorization.
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Why is Google forcing advanced RMA's where they put a temporarily hold? Why cant it be that you send the device back they receive it and once it's cleared you get a replacement and you only get a advanced replacement if you ask for it or be presented the option to choose.
The email I was sent has the advanced replacement only with no other options!
Even if I return the device first and they say it's cleared and I click the order link there will still be a temporary charge! Why cant they update the link to be $0.00 to get a replacement and not ask for any card details? Before this happens they send you an email saying Good news your return was processed. Click here to receive your replacement free.
The policy is great for those who can put money on hold but what about those that cant or don't have the funds to back it. What. Are they forced to return the device to get a replacement?
They figure that everybody can put 200$ in funds on hold for a week with no other options expect to return it?
I also noticed that google isn't handling the returns. It appears SMS Infocom Corp is handling them out of Texas? What if they screw up and said that it's your fault so your charged for the new device?
Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty.
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Then you have to dispute it with Google or file a charge back. Wonderful
Most businesses give you the two options. The standard one that I just mentioned or the advanced replacement if they offer it.
This is bull**** IMO not allowing both options and only the advanced replacement. Even the rep on the phone at google said it was crappy. I'm serious.
I do not have the 200$ in my account to back the temporary authorization
So do I have to return it for a refund to get a replacement?
Actually it is a great policy, well at least for those of us with credit cards that aren't maxed out.
I like not having to wait the additional time it takes to send the defective unit back before getting a replacement shipped out.
BamAlmighty said:
Actually it is a great policy, well at least for those of us with credit cards that aren't maxed out.
I like not having to wait the additional time it takes to send the defective unit back before getting a replacement shipped out.
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Well that's the problem. It works for some people that are able to do so. What about the others that cant? Then it's horrible for those that cant.
Why didn't they have both options and give you the choice?
I'm still awaiting a email from Google about it.
Seems like I'm forced to return it for a refund to a replacement.
It is logistically easier to do it the way they are doing it... Quite different if you are dealing with a brick and mortar shop, just go in and exchange it. No risk of having extra hardware floating around.
As for having a third party company to deal with the returns is not all that unusual. A lot of companies do that.
Not sure how many people would buy a Nexus if their card(s) were maxed out.
Did you call Asus, see which options they have.
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If they wanna hold another $249 from me that's fine. I also buy things when I know I have room on my credit card as well as my bank account.
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It is logistically easier to do it the way they are doing it... Quite different if you are dealing with a brick and mortar shop, just go in and exchange it. No risk of having extra hardware floating around.
As for having a third party company to deal with the returns is not all that unusual. A lot of companies do that.
Not sure how many people would buy a Nexus if their card(s) were maxed out.
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Alot of people used bank accounts and not credit cards. Why are people getting the notion that everybody has a credit card they can use to back it?
See that's the problem. Makes it easier for them but harder for those who cant put a temporary charge.
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Did you call Asus, see which options they have.
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I could try that.
I'm tempted to just say screw it and keep it an deal with it due to the policy. If it breaks then deal with Asus down the road.
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Alot of people used bank accounts and not credit cards. Why are people getting the notion that everybody has a credit card they can use to back it?
See that's the problem. Makes it easier for them but harder for those who cant put a temporary charge.
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Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.
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Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.
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Yeah. They figured everybody has a credit card or bank accounts with the cash to temporarily fund it?
Still BS imo that they don't have the other option. I may be forced to return it for refund or deal with it as is. I figured they would give you both options.
"If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it." Yes, But what other options do I have? Google is giving you no other option it seems expect to return it for a refund or deal with ASUS. As i said even the google rep said this wasn't going to work for everybody!
I'm hoping they can do what I said in the first post and honestly I see no reason why they wouldn't unless there system doesn't work.
I'm awaiting another reply form upper Management i guess about this.
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Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.
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A strange elitist comment, so this guy paid in full for a tablet but in order to get a warranty replacement he should have calculated in double the price of the tablet, before he even purchased the tablet?
Went through the RMA process and it came off as Google was not quite sure how to handle advanced replacements, the whole emailing me a special link to buy a replacement tablet as it were. Was completely half ass'ed, they already have mine/our billing info why not just do anything with anyone's money after a tech has gave it once over
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A strange elitist comment, so this guy paid in full for a tablet but in order to get a warranty replacement he should have calculated in double the price of the tablet, before he even purchased the tablet?
Went through the RMA process and it came off as Google was not quite sure how to handle advanced replacements, the whole emailing me a special link to buy a replacement tablet as it were. Was completely half ass'ed, they already have mine/our billing info why not just do anything with anyone's money after a tech has gave it once over
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Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."
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Well that's the problem. It works for some people that are able to do so. What about the others that cant? Then it's horrible for those that cant.
Why didn't they have both options and give you the choice?
I'm still awaiting a email from Google about it.
Seems like I'm forced to return it for a refund to a replacement.
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First, first world problem. Second, sounds like you don't have your priorities straight. 3rd life ain't easy. 4th if you don't like it complain to them and do business with companies that meet your needs. Last, owning a N7 is not a right you aren't entitled.
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Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."
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I've never had to return my asus laptop and netbook to them since I have warranties with best buy but I really haven't heard a lot of good things with asus and their warranty. Personally that's why I'm sticking with google at the moment. My original was epic screen lift and I got replacement on friday and haven't hardly used it between friday and saturday due to work and it has a dead pixel and something is rattling around near the top. I'd rather have Google 2 day me a new one then wait god knows how long for asus.
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Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."
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Ever hear of money orders., paying by cash as in waiting until you can walk into a store and buy one. You are wrong, there are many options starting with take your business elsewhere.
By the way I would be careful suggesting something is shady that is pretty much a common business practice.
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So, if I have to RMA, I have to have an additional $199 for the tablet on a credit card? I thought the policy was for Google to try to take the additional money AFTER the amount of time has passed that they didn't receive the tablet back (21 days?).
It's going to be real tricky trying to keep $200 on a card... especially since bills and stuff usually take my card below $200 each month. But then again, I guess I can hope to have a flawless device
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So it's common for businesses to force you to do an advanced replacement with no other options when 10 other businesses I've dealt with offer what I'm saying?
So in your option you should have double the cost of an item on your card before you buy it for this very reason?
Let me make it very clear
NOT EVERYBODY HAS A CREDIT CARD OR $200 IN EXTRA MONEY THEY CAN PUT ON HOLD FOR THE NEXT WEEK AND A HALF!!!
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT
DO YOU BUY PRODUCTS AND SAY THAT YOU NEED DOUBLE THE AMOUNT ENCASE THE PRODUCT IS DEFECTIVE? NO!
SERIOUSLY!
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So, if I have to RMA, I have to have an additional $199 for the tablet on a credit card? I thought the policy was for Google to try to take the additional money AFTER the amount of time has passed that they didn't receive the tablet back (21 days?).
It's going to be real tricky trying to keep $200 on a card... especially since bills and stuff usually take my card below $200 each month. But then again, I guess I can hope to have a flawless device
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They're not "taking" your money. They're putting a temporary authorization of the amount of whatever account you're using for the replacement (such as a bank account, credit card, etc.) Once they receive the defective tablet within 21 days and make sure it's all good then they'll take that temp authorization off your account. But if it's not returned to them within the 21 days that's when I believe they can charge you.
This will explain it more too
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
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They're not "taking" your money. They're putting a temporary authorization of the amount of whatever account you're using for the replacement (such as a bank account, credit card, etc.) Once they receive the defective tablet within 21 days and make sure it's all good then they'll take that temp authorization off your account. But if it's not returned to them within the 21 days that's when I believe they can charge you.
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Yes, But the problem occurs when you don't have the extra money to put on hold.
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Yes, But the problem occurs when you don't have the extra money to put on hold.
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Yea well sorry to burst your bubble but the minute you ordered your tablet and an email was sent to you saying thank you for your purchase they provided the link to their devices support. So from that moment they laid out the whole process of how this would work. Now whether or not you read it well that was your choice but all that information was there and just didn't mysteriously show up.
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
Google will not ship you a replacement tablet unless you have the money to pay for another tablet.
I have learned this the hard way.
I had the touch sensor issue and sent the tablet back, but since I don't have the money to hold on my debit card Google will not ship me my replacement tablet.
You read that right. I paid for a tablet, I have no tablet, Google won't give me my warranty-covered replacement until I find the cash for them to hold on to for a week.
I am the biggest Google fanboy I know IRL, but I am extremely mad right now and wanted to make sure everybody knows about this issue before buying the Nexus 7.
I bought the tablet on Sept 4th, maybe by October 26th I'll have enough money saved up to pay the ransom to actually hold my tablet in my hands.
jacktownlane said:
Google will not ship you a replacement tablet unless you have the money to pay for another tablet.
I have learned this the hard way.
I had the touch sensor issue and sent the tablet back, but since I don't have the money to hold on my debit card Google will not ship me my replacement tablet.
You read that right. I paid for a tablet, I have no tablet, Google won't give me my warranty-covered replacement until I find the cash for them to hold on to for a week.
I am the biggest Google fanboy I know IRL, but I am extremely mad right now and wanted to make sure everybody knows about this issue before buying the Nexus 7.
I bought the tablet on Sept 4th, maybe by October 26th I'll have enough money saved up to pay the ransom to actually hold my tablet in my hands.
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Well no duh. They put a hold on the value of replacement tablet to make sure you return the old one. They need to make sure you have the funds to pay for the replacement should you fail to return the defective one. It's common practice.
I would have asked to speak with a supervisor as I would think they would let you send your tablet back first instead, and then after they receive the defective one they would ship you the replacement. That would eliminate the need for a hold on you card.
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Well no duh. They put a hold on the value of replacement tablet to make sure you return the old one. They need to make sure you have the funds to pay for the replacement should you fail to return the defective one. It's common practice.
I would have asked to speak with a supervisor as I would think they would let you send your tablet back first instead, and then after they receive the defective one they would ship you the replacement. That would eliminate the need for a hold on you card.
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That is exactly what I thought. I asked them if I could return the tablet first and have them send the replacement without holding another $199, I have an email in which they agree with that scenario.
The problem is, they won't do it.
I sent the tablet back, UPS confirmed they received it on the 4th. Google themselves confirm they have it.
Even knowing all of this, the "manager" I was able to speak with told me the same thing the rep told me. There is no way to get around having the money held. Nobody has authorization to get around that in the system, it is just built in.
So yes, I sent the tablet back to get around this charge, and they still insist on charging me.
The OP said they sent the original tablet back...if Google already has the tablet back they should not need to put a hold on a second tablet.
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What you're describing is an advanced replacement. They send you a replacement tablet and put a hold for the value on a credit or debit card until they receive your defective one.
If you can't do that for some reason, then you need to process a standard RMA without advanced replacement. In this case you send your tablet in and go without a tablet until they get around to fixing it.
If you run into a problem, ask for a supervisor. Be polite and explain the situation. If you act like an entitled ass you will likely find roadblocks and problems in getting things solved.
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What you're describing is an advanced replacement. They send you a replacement tablet and put a hold for the value on a credit or debit card until they receive your defective one.
If you can't do that for some reason, then you need to process a standard RMA without advanced replacement. In this case you send your tablet in and go without a tablet until they get around to fixing it.
If you run into a problem, ask for a supervisor. Be polite and explain the situation. If you act like an entitled ass you will likely find roadblocks and problems in getting things solved.
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What he said. This is standard procedure for an advanced replacement. If you're saying that they are currently in possession of your old tablet and they still need to charge you for another... doesn't make any sense.
Maybe there's something off in the timing/terminology. I'd call back again. Otherwise, they need to return your original transaction money.
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What you're describing is an advanced replacement. They send you a replacement tablet and put a hold for the value on a credit or debit card until they receive your defective one.
If you can't do that for some reason, then you need to process a standard RMA without advanced replacement. In this case you send your tablet in and go without a tablet until they get around to fixing it.
If you run into a problem, ask for a supervisor. Be polite and explain the situation. If you act like an entitled ass you will likely find roadblocks and problems in getting things solved.
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I think I was courteous even when I asked for the supervisor. The reason I am so angry is support said I could do it like this so I wouldn't have the money held. Then they said there is no way to do it without the money being held. That is all in my email communication.
Then they told me to contact ASUS to resolve the problem because there was nothing they could do. I asked them what could ASUS do when I've already sent the tablet back to Google. Their response was give us more of your money to hold on to and we'll be glad to send you an "advance replacement device."
We own 2 GNexs, a cheap Samsung Android phone for our son, a Google TV, an Acer 100, and some day a Nexus 7. I am as fanboy as it gets. I say all that to make the point that I really wanted this resolved nicely but Google is really sticking it to me.
Sounds like a major case of miscommunication somewhere, even though they have received the tablet back. If you can't work it out with the supervisor, then talk to the department manager. There is obviously no need for them to place a hold if they have it back already. The only other scenario I can see is that it's been hard coded into the system that they can't override. Did you get an RMA to send it back?
Don't know if you have any credit cards but that is another way to do it. It won't be a hold on your cash and it essentially will just be well, a hold on virtual money.
Google stopped communicating with me. I told them I felt like this had moved beyond bad customer service and into customer mistreatment and if I couldn't get the tablet I paid for without putting up money I don't have then I would file a complaint with my state's attorney general.
They said I had made a "legal threat" and at that point would only keep repeating the URL for Google legal. The new manager I had wouldn't repeat her name or give me any sort of reference number.
I don't have a credit card. I saved up money to buy this tablet. I don't have the money to let them hold even if the principle didn't deeply disturb me.
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Alright so I took the advice you guys gave me and gave them a call back.
I got a new person and it took him 2 minutes of looking at my account to just give me the full refund that the original rep denied me. Before they weren't going to refund the shipping charge, only the price plus tax.
So I'm waiting for my money to come back so I can try again! Hopefully next week I'll have my Nexus 7!
The difference between the new person that took my call and the old person was like night and day.
But the new person did confirm with me that it is hard-coded in their system that they absolutely cannot under any circumstances provide you a replacement device without first holding the money on the card you bought the device with originally.
So my original "Buyer Beware" warning still stands. With as many problems as people have been having with their Nexus 7's you should make sure you have double the purchase price before buying this tablet to make sure you can get your replacement if anything goes sideways.
I think Google is trying... but they are new at supporting hardware and are making mistakes. I think it may take more than a week for you to get your refund though, sounds like even that process is pretty messed up.
You said 'with as many problems as people are having', when I have not heard of many and mine is running great and no defects I have seen. Hmm....
He said 14 days for a refund after they receive the device and they received it on the 4th. So I should have my money next week if not my tablet.
The problem I had was with the touch sensors after running any mid- to high-end game. I see other people on XDA with the same issue. It only goes away if you restart, and it is a hardware issue, not software.
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He said 14 days for a refund after they receive the device and they received it on the 4th. So I should have my money next week if not my tablet.
The problem I had was with the touch sensors after running any mid- to high-end game. I see other people on XDA with the same issue. It only goes away if you restart, and it is a hardware issue, not software.
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Yeah, 14 days is what they tell everyone. But it sounds like most experiences I see mentioned here, say it's taking about 2 months to get a refund. I've tried to find someone that actually got a refund in a normal amount of time, and so far no one has come up yet.
jacktownlane said:
Alright so I took the advice you guys gave me and gave them a call back.
I got a new person and it took him 2 minutes of looking at my account to just give me the full refund that the original rep denied me. Before they weren't going to refund the shipping charge, only the price plus tax.
So I'm waiting for my money to come back so I can try again! Hopefully next week I'll have my Nexus 7!
The difference between the new person that took my call and the old person was like night and day.
But the new person did confirm with me that it is hard-coded in their system that they absolutely cannot under any circumstances provide you a replacement device without first holding the money on the card you bought the device with originally.
So my original "Buyer Beware" warning still stands. With as many problems as people have been having with their Nexus 7's you should make sure you have double the purchase price before buying this tablet to make sure you can get your replacement if anything goes sideways.
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don't buy it from google website, if there is anything, you can only communicate through online/phone.
buy it from somewhere else like staples, gamestop, etc. If there is something to happen, you can bring back the product with the recipe to the original shop. Another thing is, if you did something wrong, it's easier to mask it because the store clerk usually have little understanding in it.
I purchased a new linksys router and after 2 months it stopped working. They sent me a replacement BUT they charged me the value of the device to make sure I would send the one that stopped working back to them. I don't see what the big problem with putting down a deposit.
le0.br4zuc4 said:
I purchased a new linksys router and after 2 months it stopped working. They sent me a replacement BUT they charged me the value of the device to make sure I would send the one that stopped working back to them. I don't see what the big problem with putting down a deposit.
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see?this is why i love apple!
kevinchen1102 said:
see?this is why i love apple!
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Nobody needs you here, go troll your Apple forum.
Beamed from my Grouper.
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I don't have a credit card. I saved up money to buy this tablet. I don't have the money to let them hold even if the principle didn't deeply disturb me.
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You should not be buying like this if you don't have a credit card.
Buy from a brick and mortar store if you want to deal with cash (including debit) if you don't want to deal with what amounts to a credit hold.
A credit hold with a credit card is a non-issue since it is not really your money.
Basic credit 101...
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So I just had to do initialize a warranty replacement for my phone due to the 'creaking' some people reported involving the corner of the phone. I just don't want to risk it getting worse or me being annoyed to no end because of it so I figured do it sooner than later.
Anyway, I called today because I assumed that the same policy that governed the Galaxy Nexus applied (You have two weeks from the date you get the phone to do a clean-and-clear replacement of the device for warranty issues anything after that requires mailing out for repair.)
However, the guy I talked to tells me that this warranty is different than the Samsung. Like with purchasing a phone through a carrier, if your phone has any problem covered by the warranty, they will replace the device no matter how long it's been since you purchased it (so long as it is still within the 1-year warranty)
I have to say I am so so very pleased to see this! My greatest fear with buying the phone is that if something went wrong I would have to mail it out and be without a phone for several weeks like was the case with the Galaxy Nexus. I figured since so many people have no shortage of complaints about the device I would share something that has very much improved!
Is this warranty through your carrier or LG?
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Is this warranty through your carrier or LG?
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I was thinking Google.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Wow that sounds pretty great. About the one thing Google got right about this whole process lol. Sounds like they were expecting lots of returns.
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ohhdavid said:
I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Where is this policy published?
That's good news. I am getting my phone this week but I'm too busy with work related stuff that needs to be completed before I fly out to Europe for vacation until mid. January.
I was afraid of discovering an issue when on vacation and getting screwed just because I cannot receive a new phone and send in the old one. No need to worry I guess.
The 'hold to cross-ship' replacement policy has been in place since the Nexus One days, and is a great policy.
It's not actually THAT great. Everyone doesn't have $400 disposable at any given time. So say I don't have any money and my device breaks then I'm S.O.L.. That my friend is not okay. They can't put a hold on a card if there's no funds there.
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They also mention to contact them if a hold on a card is not feasible and they'll be able to work with you. I just had one done
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It's not actually THAT great. Everyone doesn't have $400 disposable at any given time. So say I don't have any money and my device breaks then I'm S.O.L.. That my friend is not okay. They can't put a hold on a card if there's no funds there.
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Never SOL on a legit RMA claim. .cross-ship is just a great option offered, especially if your phone is somewhat functional, you're not out of use at all while you get new unit. Besided it's not El Goog's fault you're broke.
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Yep the warranty through the play store is the only reason I didn't buy from elsewhere... Well that and the price. They always do advance replacement instead of having you ship the thing back on your own device and wait more than a month to get it back. It's one of the few things Google got right with their hardware selling venture. Unfortunately for me, I have terrible luck with replacements. Couldn't get an n7 that wasn't more borked than the previous one. My n10 has a very slight issue but the replacement has the worst screen I've ever seen. Didn't want to go through the hassle of endless card authorizations and shipping devices back and forth so I'm just going to keep it. My n4 has bad light bleed and half the screen is yellow so its replacement is on its way to me and I pray this one breaks my replacement curse. I wish they actually did some kind of qc on their replacement stock before shipping, especially given that critical buyers with problems are much more likely to scrutinize the replacement device once they have had a bad experience to begin with.
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This warranty system sounds great, but do they send a prepaid shipping label or is that from our own pockets?
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This warranty system sounds great, but do they send a prepaid shipping label or is that from our own pockets?
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Google supplies the shipping labels.
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Never SOL on a legit RMA claim. .cross-ship is just a great option offered, especially if your phone is somewhat functional, you're not out of use at all while you get new unit. Besided it's not El Goog's fault you're broke.
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well if it's just a hold then it doesnt havt't to be 400 bucks, it can just be a dollar and if you dont send in your phone then they charge for the one they sent out, im assuming?
like going to the gas station and how its a dollar until it runs through the system
Garciahenry63 said:
well if it's just a hold then it doesnt havt't to be 400 bucks, it can just be a dollar and if you dont send in your phone then they charge for the one they sent out, im assuming?
like going to the gas station and how its a dollar until it runs through the system
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The problem here is, people are far from honest. I see people here claiming fraud for a lot of things just to get something for free. Number one I've noticed are fraudulent warranty claims. Or selling a broken phone on ebay as working. Everybody lies.
Would Google really send out a phone for "free"? It only makes sense that they charge you for what it's worth. Think of it as a core charge when turning in an alternator or some high priced item for repair. You don't return it? It's your money you're losing.
I hope this is true because with my galaxy nexus they told I needed to contact samsung if it was a hardware problem because they only deal with software problems.So after I contacted samsung I had to ship my phone to them and waited 2 weeks get it replaced and I had no other phone to use because it was my 1st gsm phone after leaving Verizon so I could be contract free.So my 1st experience with them sucked.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Just to clarify on the last point.. You have 21 days to return it from the day you receive the email detailing how to order a replacement (sent by the rep you speak with on the phone) and so if your replacement takes 14 days to ship, 2 days to arrive you've only got 5 days left to get it back to them which is cutting it short. :/
Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the email says at the top.
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Okay so keep an open mind here guys.
I initiated an RMA last night and I fully intend to return my defective device, but the whole deal with them shipping you a new phone before you send yours back raises an interesting question.
What'd happen if you didn't send yours back and just kept the two? Obviously you'd be charged for both so there's no theft going on, but for those that wanted to purchase 2 and coul could only get one, could they theoretically 'buy' another device this way? It'd be unethical of course, you scamming (in a sense) a phone that countless people are trying to get their hands on, but no more unethical than those scalpers on eBay. They say you have 21 days to return it otherwise your card will be charged, so this could be a very sneaky method of beating the queue.
Like I said before it's unethical and I don't intend to do it, but for those that want a second device for their partner or for someone else... Food for thought I suppose.
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Okay so keep an open mind here guys.
I initiated an RMA last night and I fully intend to return my defective device, but the whole deal with them shipping you a new phone before you send yours back raises an interesting question.
What'd happen if you didn't send yours back and just kept the two? Obviously you'd be charged for both so there's no theft going on, but for those that wanted to purchase 2 and coul could only get one, could they theoretically 'buy' another device this way? It'd be unethical of course, you scamming (in a sense) a phone that countless people are trying to get their hands on, but no more unethical than those scalpers on eBay. They say you have 21 days to return it otherwise your card will be charged, so this could be a very sneaky method of beating the queue.
Like I said before it's unethical and I don't intend to do it, but for those that want a second device for their partner or for someone else... Food for thought I suppose.
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Well they would get to keep the money they put on hold, and charge you for full shipping.
They would also probably black list you as a customer, so you could never order from them again.
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Just to clarify on the last point.. You have 21 days to return it from the day you receive the email detailing how to order a replacement (sent by the rep you speak with on the phone) and so if your replacement takes 14 days to ship, 2 days to arrive you've only got 5 days left to get it back to them which is cutting it short. :/
Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the email says at the top.
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No, it's from the date you received the replacement. Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the e-mail says.
UNDERSTANDING CREDIT CARD AUTHORIZATION (NOT A CHARGE)
An authorization for the full price of the replacement device will be placed on your credit card when you place the order in step one. This means that a portion of your card’s credit limit is held for several days, but no charge is made if your original device arrives at our repair center no longer than 21 days from the date of receiving your replacement device is verified to be covered under warranty.
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I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct thread, however given the nature that it is relevant to the general discussion of the Nexus 5 I'm going to post it in here anyway.
Do not shop at Carphone Warehouse UK
So I bought my Nexus 5 on release day from the Carphone Warehouse. I paid £295. When I got it home to my annoyance it wouldn't charge, no matter what I did it would not charge. I'm pretty experienced with phones and could tell it was a hardware error. I use my phone primarily for business, so being without a phone is completely a no-go for me. I took my Nexus 5 back to Carphone Warehouse on the assumption that they would just do a straight swap, however no they didn't have any stock in.. which is where my trouble started.
They offered me an alternative phone, they recommended the LG G2 as it only had a price difference of £150 and for some stupid reason, I went for it. The device I received was in an OPEN BOX (my mistake, I admit) that has had promotional stickers ripped off, however the phone inside was sealed, and so I assumed there was no issue. Got the phone home, start using it and discover that the phone is getting hot and crashing, this is as soon as I've got it out of the box.. so it's not like I've done anything to it or used it too much.
Anyway took it back to Carphone Warehouse the following day. By this point I was quite annoyed because the store that I purchased it from is a 60.8 Mile round trip. Due to my working hours I can't go to my local one, which closes at 5PM. The store I got the G2 from closes at 8PM, making it the only store I can get to that is open. I took the phone in and spoke to a lady on the Checkout about the issue and she said that an exchange was no problem and that more importantly, they had the Nexus 5 in stock. We initiated the exchange when she checked the IMEI. At this point she said she needed to speak to her manager. After around 5 minutes of waiting and her taking my phone in the back with her, she comes back and says to me 'I'm sorry Sir, we cannot exchange this phone as YOU have taken this phone and swapped it for an identical one with a different IMEI number. Our system shows you should have a different phone'
Quite astounded at what she had told me, I explained to her that I had only just purchased the phone the previous morning. She wouldn't have any of it and sent me away with an 0845 number to call to make a complaint. On the way home I called into another Carphone Warehouse store. I spoke to a lady who called Customer Services on behalf of me to find out how this issue could have occurred. To put it plain and simple, the IMEI on the box of the phone was the same as the one on the system, but the phone I had had an alien IMEI. After she spoke to Customer Services the lady told me that unfortunately they couldn't do anything from their store because, get this, the phone I had was being sent off for a repair. I would have to take it back to the original store, the same store that just fobbed me off, in order to get it exchanged. And this was head office that told me this!
The following day I spoke to customer services myself. I rung up and lodged a complaint because I believe the fact that I was accused of committing fraud but am also expected to drive 60 Miles to resolve a problem is disgusting. I spoke to a lady called Amy who "promised" me she would get to the bottom of this for me and resolve it. She told me that she could see from notes put on the account (presumably from the previous days call to cs) that the phone was a repair handset. She then spoke to the repairs team who confirmed they were waiting for the handset to arrive. She told me that she wouldn't be able to resolve the issue until she had spoken to the store I originally bought the handset from. She then "promised" to call me back as soon as she had spoken to them, or by 5PM the same day.
For records, this was on the 6th November.
5PM came, and no call. Because she called me on an 0800 number and wouldn't give me a number to contact her on, I was unable to call her myself. However the following morning (7th November) she called me and told me that she had still been unable to get in contact with the store in question and that she would definitely have this fixed for me by the evening and that she would call me back by 5PM. Well 5PM came and went, and there was no call. By this point I was extremely annoyed. The following morning there was no call either, so I called CPW on my mobile (which has charged me) and requested to speak to Amy. By this point it was on the third day of being without a working handset and nobody had really acknowledged there was an issue, or done anything to solve it. I actually managed to get put through to Amy who told me that she had still not been able to get through to the store, but that her manager was in in 20 minutes and she would call me back with a resolution to the issue. I asked her if she would 100% call me back, and she promised she would. 24 hours passed and no call.
So by this point I've been without a handset for 4 days, been sold a second hand one, promised that I will have a call from customer services to resolve it but haven't, and been accused of fraud. Getting quite angry at this point.
I allowed a few days to go by to see if Amy would get in contact with me, however by Monday 11th November she still hadn't. We took the phone to the Trafford Centre store which is still a good 25 miles away. We spoke to a very helpful gentleman in the Carphone Warehouse store who went to a lot of trouble for me. He spoke to head office who reiterated the fact that the phone was a repair handset and advised the gentleman to call the store I bought the phone from. He called the store and spoke to the manager. He confirmed that the IMEI on the box of the phone I had was in store, and that there had been a bit of a mess up and he was unsure of how it had happened. I was then told that unfortunately due to the circumstances of the issue I would have to drive to the other store, a further 10 miles, to initiate the exchange OR refund.
So finally just under a week of being without a phone and driving from my house to Manchester every other day the issue was resolved and I would be able to go back to a Nexus 5 or get a refund. Hell, wasn't I wrong.
On arrival at the store we spoke to the manager who told us we had two options, either swap the LG G2 for another LG G2, or get a cheaper handset. He couldn't offer us a refund because he would have to speak to customer services who were closed, and he wasn't prepared to knock the difference off a HTC One (£50) due to all the problems we had had. Furthermore the sim-free price of a Nexus 5 at Carphone is now £495, however they are not selling them sim-free at the moment! I was then told that I could have a refund, but I would have to come back the following day!! All this after driving probably in excess of 200 miles.
I felt backed into a corner and didn't really have a choice but to accept the G2. As I said earlier I need a handset for work and it's not an option for me to be without one.
I then spoke to the complaints department of Carphone Warehouse once again yesterday. I explained everything that I have just said in this post, and their reply:
"We do not offer refunds on any sim-free products, and the manager was wrong to tell you that we do. Because you accepted the G2 there is nothing we can do for you. You chose to drive there on your free will. Would you like me to raise your complaint against the store?"
:good: Not happy.
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If something's not working properly, here's what to do
Pop into any Carphone Warehouse store with:
your product
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Preferably its original packaging
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We'll take a look at it, and if we can't fix it there and then, you'll be eligible for a return, exchange or repair. You can find out more about our repairs service on our repairs page.
Lots of common phone problems can be fixed with a simple software update, which you can do yourself. Check out our page and see how.
So now I really do not know what to do. I have been left with a phone that I do not want and am considerably out of pocket due to fuel costs of driving to get the issue resolved. Help?
Never get upset with them, for starters. It's difficult, I know from extensive experience, but their hands are tied to within their policies and they won't want to help if you tell them off like they probably deserve.
This is how I've played these games and won countless times.
Politely calmly ask:
"So, there is nothing you can do?"
"No, I'm sorry sir, there isn't"
"What is your employee ID#, who is your superior, and how do I contact them? I'd like to pass on a good work for your efforts"
Rinse, repeat. Insist to pass to a superior. They'll tell you nobody can help. Tell them you feel like you deserve to hear it from their boss.
I once had a vp with Sprint (verified that they really were via background checks: on the phone with me to resolve an issue by asking "Well, if you can't help me, someone can approve this. Who can?"
Just keep climbing the ladder.
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That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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setspeed said:
That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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I don't blame you, going to try my luck again later with their complaints department. I will update the thread. I think a lot of it depends on who you speak to as well, it's not necessarily speaking to a manager that matters, it's speaking to someone that can relate to your experience.
Good luck, I hope you end up with a decent resolution, but I fear that even if you were to get the phone you want, all the extra money you gave them and spent on petrol is lost. I really wanted an N5 on release day and I even went to my local CPW to take a look at them - thank God they weren't selling the 32GB because I would've bought it there and then. It might've taken a few days longer from Google, but at least I know they won't jerk me around if I have to return it (I returned my N4 last year because I didn't like it enough to keep it over my S3, no issues with refund at all).
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I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
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jRi0T68 said:
I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
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Oh no I completely agree with you there! Sorry I meant you multi-quote. I mean the gateway though, I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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Good advice here. I would also get the credit card company involved.
You did pay by credit card didn't you? If not, silly billy.
This is a good way of dragging someone else into the fray on your side and applying pressure on recalcitrant suppliers.
I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
I suppose the service you get depends on which store you go to :/
Also i have to ask...
You got a sim free phone meaning you would have already had another working phone/sim?
Why didnt you just wait for the nexus 5 to get back into stock again? :/
Also looking at your sig...
Why didnt you stick with the Z1?
I'm not defending CPW as the issue you're having is tragic.
But at the same time you made numerous mistakes yourself and undoubtedly made things harder..for yourself.
The first being not waiting for the N5 to get back in stock again from that specific retailer or asking them to find a store where it was in stock and doing an exchange there.
The second, getting a phone you did NOT want and paying an EXTRA £150 for it. You do acknowledge this was an open box and you were still in a position to run the risk that it did not behave as intended. Which unfortunately it did.
Glad you got that IMEI stuff fixed, that was BS on their part. Handy Gentleman at trafford to the rescue! Oh yeah, Thirdly, you were wasting your time with Amy, She was clearly incompetent at her job, producing no results every time you waited for her and continued to wait for her again.
Driving up and down in excess of xx miles is another issue when you could have made the alternative and smarter decision of calling the individual store up. Each CPW store has a different phone number which you can find on the website. Only till you're guaranteed that you can have an exchange or whatever you had desired, you could have popped in. Had that particular store failed to assist you, you wouldn't have to drive back achieving nothing but wasted petrol.
Oh yeah, when you finally spoke to the manager, you conceded and accepted another LG G2, may I reiterate, as you said. A phone you did NOT want. So customer Service was closed but you still had the opportunity for a full refund. Again, why not wait till it was open. [I get it, driving issues but that shouldn't stop you if it causes more 'driving issues' later]
The issue is, you don't wait for things and you take the easiest most convenient option at the time but at the end of the day it's the one you don't like, so you wish-wash out of it and things become more complicated.
The IMEI was unfortunate and yes, incredibly annoying. But that got resolved. The faulty handset is by no means the direct fault of CPW. And you did have a choice in regards to accepting the G2, I really don't see how you're playing the victim card in this aspect with that. In terms of work, you could have used a temp phone in the mean time, nothing fancy, an old nokia could have done the job if you need to make calls. You already had a sim if I'm correct. I figure the refund for the Nexus 5 was not an option the moment you opted for the G2 as that phone supersedes the N5 in terms of pricing. I figure what you want now is a refund for the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 at the £295 pricepoint from CPW that it once had? I don't think that's a realistic expectation anymore mate. At best just accept the refund for the LG G2. The N5 window is gone.
An alternative If you still want the Nexus 5 would be selling your LG G2, boxed and unopen, I hope and buying a N5 at the play store.
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jaaystott said:
I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
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No, it isn't a realistic demand because once you bought the LG G2, that became a stand alone product independent from any attachment with the N5. Quite simply you have you're head attached to the idea that the Nexus 5 is your main phone from CPW and that the LG G2 is a temp / secondary / repair or whatever. Once you chose the G2, you made your bed, that's where all the concern now lies.
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I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
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Also, this is a clear example that the CPW system does not fail with returns. Ahhhhhhhhh Now I'm contradicting the first sentence in this post. But the problem does not lie with them completely as you make it out.
Even though sprint is not better business bureau accredited, I have filed a complaint with the BBB against sprint regarding the fact that they have knowledgeably put defective devices in the hands of consumers, and are not making a quick effort to remedy the situation, I have also stated that sprint wants to replace the devices with refurbished devices, which are valued at a lesser value then a brand new device, and still charge customers for the full price of the brand new device. I have also pointed out that they are stringing customers through the 14 day exchange period claiming it is the network, and then on the 15th day saying it is the device, and making it very difficult to exchange the devices. any way I am encouraging any one who has had issues with their device to file a complaint with the bbb against sprint, as sprint does respond to their complaints on there
Yesterday, after many chats and calls with Sprint, and 2 trips to 2 different stores, I was assured that my device is fine and that the towers in my area are to be fully functional by May 7. We'll see if my service improves. I have the option of getting refurb, which is complete bs. A brand new phone that may be defective and I can't get a brand new one because I'm past the 14 days. So yeah, I'm with you on this if things don't improve in 3-4 days.
OP. The first device I've received had a completely black pixel in the top right. I exchanged it and got a new phone with a SCRATCH under the glass and a red pixel (which I'm guessing is dead). On my third trip the guy was reluctant to hand me a new HTC One, but when I got it, it had another completely black pixel. I completely agree that sprint is knowingly dishing out defective devices to people. I'll try and figure out how to file a complaint with them. Thanks OP
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please do, the more people who complain to the bbb the better, Im also planning to email sprint the laws regarding knowingly selling defective devices
dogcmp6 said:
please do, the more people who complain to the bbb the better, Im also planning to email sprint the laws regarding knowingly selling defective devices
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Hard to prove stupidity.
Count me in on this. Not a happy camper. Two weeks of "it's the towers in your area", an hour + with three levels of tech support from my landline and finally a second trip to a store where a technician actually tested the device and entered an eTicket on my accounting noting my M8 was defective and needed to be replaced.
No TEP? $75 bucks to replace the phone through Sprint or screw around for a few weeks dealing directly with HTC. Why should I have to pay for a defective product that never worked well and progressively deteriorated into a worthless brick? I can't get calls from my customers or email in the field and this is not good for business so I'm desperate. Even though furious at the prospect of paying $75 dollars for a 4 week old phone that didn't work through no fault of my own, for expediency I begrudgingly went ahead and set up getting a replacement. Damn, what a scam!
After it all gets set up and entered into the computer, then the guy tells me they are on backorder and it will be 5 to 7 days before they ship.
I just about lost it but attempted to maintain some degree of civility while expressing my displeasure with this policy, their crap customer service that could care less and that my intention was to contact the BBB and possibly the Attorney General regarding this whole debacle. I know the guy I was speaking to was just doing his job and probably hears a lot of this but his one saving grace was asking me if I still had my old phone.
After confirming they weren't going to bone me an activation fee for bringing my old phone back online and not for the replacement M8 whenever I get it, I am now back on my three year old HTC Evo 4G but at least I can make and receive calls, get texts and have some degree of mobile data connectivity and can get email away from WiFi. In the post-contact texts from Sprint asking about my satisfaction with the recent call, I let them know this was robbery and that I would never recommend anyone ever choose Sprint.
I think I can put TEP on my replacement and trust me, if it doesn't work as expected I'll utilize it to the max and if still not satisfied, feel like this is sufficient grounds to break my contract and go somewhere else. It took days to get my M8 setup just the way I wanted it and I absolutely love it. Too bad I can't use it. :crying:
--Elisabeth
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FA43KSF... serial number
I agree with your anger. I have never wanted to switch carriers in the 5 years with Sprint until now. I wish I had not have sold my gs3 when I got my m8. I would go back to that and sell this one. I still might. It may be the towers for me, that is yet to be seen, but the utter lack of service over this is the frustrating part. I shouldn't get a refurb for a brand new defective device. "That's Sprint policy" though. Lameness.
Yeah, once I have my replacement I will be submitting a complaint to the attorney general of Illinois about the issue too, and encourage others to take part in that step too...also I can see by the increase in complaints to sprint on BBB's website that a good amount of people are seeing this thread and submitting complaints...ive been stuck on a Samsung replenish which is my back up phone for 4 days...also the serial on my defective m8 is HT441SF....
limpiador31 said:
Count me in on this. Not a happy camper. Two weeks of "it's the towers in your area", an hour + with three levels of tech support from my landline and finally a second trip to a store where a technician actually tested the device and entered an eTicket on my accounting noting my M8 was defective and needed to be replaced.
No TEP? $75 bucks to replace the phone through Sprint or screw around for a few weeks dealing directly with HTC. Why should I have to pay for a defective product that never worked well and progressively deteriorated into a worthless brick? I can't get calls from my customers or email in the field and this is not good for business so I'm desperate. Even though furious at the prospect of paying $75 dollars for a 4 week old phone that didn't work through no fault of my own, for expediency I begrudgingly went ahead and set up getting a replacement. Damn, what a scam!
After it all gets set up and entered into the computer, then the guy tells me they are on backorder and it will be 5 to 7 days before they ship.
I just about lost it but attempted to maintain some degree of civility while expressing my displeasure with this policy, their crap customer service that could care less and that my intention was to contact the BBB and possibly the Attorney General regarding this whole debacle. I know the guy I was speaking to was just doing his job and probably hears a lot of this but his one saving grace was asking me if I still had my old phone.
After confirming they weren't going to bone me an activation fee for bringing my old phone back online and not for the replacement M8 whenever I get it, I am now back on my three year old HTC Evo 4G but at least I can make and receive calls, get texts and have some degree of mobile data connectivity and can get email away from WiFi. In the post-contact texts from Sprint asking about my satisfaction with the recent call, I let them know this was robbery and that I would never recommend anyone ever choose Sprint.
I think I can put TEP on my replacement and trust me, if it doesn't work as expected I'll utilize it to the max and if still not satisfied, feel like this is sufficient grounds to break my contract and go somewhere else. It took days to get my M8 setup just the way I wanted it and I absolutely love it. Too bad I can't use it. :crying:
--Elisabeth
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Mine starts with fa43 also maybe I need to return it I just got it
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What is the worst thing about this is how Sprint is handling it.
Not that broken/defective devices exist or broken towers.
Just that they could give crap about you as a loyal customer.
They treat you like dirt. And they wonder why customers treat them like dirt back.
It's been such a bad experience, it took all the fun out of getting this phone. So they botch something, it happens. It's they handle it like sh$t.
I would have been more content keeping my old M7 phone.
It started off like crap when they kept me on the phone for like an hour when I ordered the thing and tried to upsell a bunch a crap.
And the lady had put a Tablet AND Stylus on my order. I caught her at the end had her take it off. But she left a freaken stylus on there.
It was only $15.00, just small enough to not want to waste another hour on the phone and shipping it back.
Man did that piss me off to start.
mswlogo said:
What is the worst thing about this is how Sprint is handling it.
Not that broken/defective devices exist or broken towers.
Just that they could give crap about you as a loyal customer.
They treat you like dirt. And they wonder why customers treat them like dirt back.
It's been such a bad experience, it took all the fun out of getting this phone. So they botch something, it happens. It's they handle it like sh$t.
I would have been more content keeping my old M7 phone.
It started off like crap when they kept me on the phone for like an hour when I ordered the thing and tried to upsell a bunch a crap.
And the lady had put a Tablet AND Stylus on my order. I caught her at the end had her take it off. But she left a freaken stylus on there.
It was only $15.00, just small enough to not want to waste another hour on the phone and shipping it back.
Man did that piss me off to start.
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Sorry, but the fact that you got a stylus for a phone, that clearly doesn't need one, is hilarious to me.
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The lady I ordered from tried to upsell that stuff to me too. She wouldn't take no for an answer and actually asked me if it was a money issue as to why I didn't want the tablet. I was so irritated that I yelled.
And that's why I only order from their website. No hassle and you get the same results.
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And that's why I only order from their website. No hassle and you get the same results.
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Because I have a SERO 500 plan (two of them) that's not an option. It's part of the dues you pay for having that plan.
I'd be long gone if not for the SERO 500 plan. No way I'd pay regular price for this network and customer service. It's getting close to not being worth the savings as is.
I agree with you. I have 2 sero plans as well, if not then I would be long gone too.
I have the opposite experience with Sprint. LTE is everywhere averaging 20 to 30 mb. I pay roughly 60 a line too. I'm not going anywhere lol
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Anytime 62M/1500
Text 613/Unl
3G Data 94532KB/Unl
4G Data 4242870KB/Unl
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fr0st420 said:
I have the opposite experience with Sprint. LTE is everywhere averaging 20 to 30 mb. I pay roughly 60 a line too. I'm not going anywhere lol
4/21-5/20
Anytime 62M/1500
Text 613/Unl
3G Data 94532KB/Unl
4G Data 4242870KB/Unl
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I'm lucky if I get 0.5 mb.
My sprint horror story continues...was told on Wednesday of last week that my new phone would be there in two business days, got told yesterday (Monday) that it would be here by today...go to the store thinking I would pick it up today, and my phones not there, the manager pulls up the tracking and says it hasn't even shipped yet, keeps me there for an hour and a half well he talks to his other store people about who to call at the warehouse, instead of calling the warehouse like he would do if he had any freaking common sense
I'm not having any issues. Sorry to hear all of you guys, hope that I never fall on that situation.
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What's the defect about? I ordered my m8 off contract for 250 thru htcchampions.