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[Story]Serious complaint and remorse for buying a Nexus 5 at Carphone Warehouse UK

I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct thread, however given the nature that it is relevant to the general discussion of the Nexus 5 I'm going to post it in here anyway.
Do not shop at Carphone Warehouse UK​
So I bought my Nexus 5 on release day from the Carphone Warehouse. I paid £295. When I got it home to my annoyance it wouldn't charge, no matter what I did it would not charge. I'm pretty experienced with phones and could tell it was a hardware error. I use my phone primarily for business, so being without a phone is completely a no-go for me. I took my Nexus 5 back to Carphone Warehouse on the assumption that they would just do a straight swap, however no they didn't have any stock in.. which is where my trouble started.
They offered me an alternative phone, they recommended the LG G2 as it only had a price difference of £150 and for some stupid reason, I went for it. The device I received was in an OPEN BOX (my mistake, I admit) that has had promotional stickers ripped off, however the phone inside was sealed, and so I assumed there was no issue. Got the phone home, start using it and discover that the phone is getting hot and crashing, this is as soon as I've got it out of the box.. so it's not like I've done anything to it or used it too much.
Anyway took it back to Carphone Warehouse the following day. By this point I was quite annoyed because the store that I purchased it from is a 60.8 Mile round trip. Due to my working hours I can't go to my local one, which closes at 5PM. The store I got the G2 from closes at 8PM, making it the only store I can get to that is open. I took the phone in and spoke to a lady on the Checkout about the issue and she said that an exchange was no problem and that more importantly, they had the Nexus 5 in stock. We initiated the exchange when she checked the IMEI. At this point she said she needed to speak to her manager. After around 5 minutes of waiting and her taking my phone in the back with her, she comes back and says to me 'I'm sorry Sir, we cannot exchange this phone as YOU have taken this phone and swapped it for an identical one with a different IMEI number. Our system shows you should have a different phone'
Quite astounded at what she had told me, I explained to her that I had only just purchased the phone the previous morning. She wouldn't have any of it and sent me away with an 0845 number to call to make a complaint. On the way home I called into another Carphone Warehouse store. I spoke to a lady who called Customer Services on behalf of me to find out how this issue could have occurred. To put it plain and simple, the IMEI on the box of the phone was the same as the one on the system, but the phone I had had an alien IMEI. After she spoke to Customer Services the lady told me that unfortunately they couldn't do anything from their store because, get this, the phone I had was being sent off for a repair. I would have to take it back to the original store, the same store that just fobbed me off, in order to get it exchanged. And this was head office that told me this!
The following day I spoke to customer services myself. I rung up and lodged a complaint because I believe the fact that I was accused of committing fraud but am also expected to drive 60 Miles to resolve a problem is disgusting. I spoke to a lady called Amy who "promised" me she would get to the bottom of this for me and resolve it. She told me that she could see from notes put on the account (presumably from the previous days call to cs) that the phone was a repair handset. She then spoke to the repairs team who confirmed they were waiting for the handset to arrive. She told me that she wouldn't be able to resolve the issue until she had spoken to the store I originally bought the handset from. She then "promised" to call me back as soon as she had spoken to them, or by 5PM the same day.
For records, this was on the 6th November.
5PM came, and no call. Because she called me on an 0800 number and wouldn't give me a number to contact her on, I was unable to call her myself. However the following morning (7th November) she called me and told me that she had still been unable to get in contact with the store in question and that she would definitely have this fixed for me by the evening and that she would call me back by 5PM. Well 5PM came and went, and there was no call. By this point I was extremely annoyed. The following morning there was no call either, so I called CPW on my mobile (which has charged me) and requested to speak to Amy. By this point it was on the third day of being without a working handset and nobody had really acknowledged there was an issue, or done anything to solve it. I actually managed to get put through to Amy who told me that she had still not been able to get through to the store, but that her manager was in in 20 minutes and she would call me back with a resolution to the issue. I asked her if she would 100% call me back, and she promised she would. 24 hours passed and no call.
So by this point I've been without a handset for 4 days, been sold a second hand one, promised that I will have a call from customer services to resolve it but haven't, and been accused of fraud. Getting quite angry at this point.
I allowed a few days to go by to see if Amy would get in contact with me, however by Monday 11th November she still hadn't. We took the phone to the Trafford Centre store which is still a good 25 miles away. We spoke to a very helpful gentleman in the Carphone Warehouse store who went to a lot of trouble for me. He spoke to head office who reiterated the fact that the phone was a repair handset and advised the gentleman to call the store I bought the phone from. He called the store and spoke to the manager. He confirmed that the IMEI on the box of the phone I had was in store, and that there had been a bit of a mess up and he was unsure of how it had happened. I was then told that unfortunately due to the circumstances of the issue I would have to drive to the other store, a further 10 miles, to initiate the exchange OR refund.
So finally just under a week of being without a phone and driving from my house to Manchester every other day the issue was resolved and I would be able to go back to a Nexus 5 or get a refund. Hell, wasn't I wrong.
On arrival at the store we spoke to the manager who told us we had two options, either swap the LG G2 for another LG G2, or get a cheaper handset. He couldn't offer us a refund because he would have to speak to customer services who were closed, and he wasn't prepared to knock the difference off a HTC One (£50) due to all the problems we had had. Furthermore the sim-free price of a Nexus 5 at Carphone is now £495, however they are not selling them sim-free at the moment! I was then told that I could have a refund, but I would have to come back the following day!! All this after driving probably in excess of 200 miles.
I felt backed into a corner and didn't really have a choice but to accept the G2. As I said earlier I need a handset for work and it's not an option for me to be without one.
I then spoke to the complaints department of Carphone Warehouse once again yesterday. I explained everything that I have just said in this post, and their reply:
"We do not offer refunds on any sim-free products, and the manager was wrong to tell you that we do. Because you accepted the G2 there is nothing we can do for you. You chose to drive there on your free will. Would you like me to raise your complaint against the store?"
:good: Not happy.
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So now I really do not know what to do. I have been left with a phone that I do not want and am considerably out of pocket due to fuel costs of driving to get the issue resolved. Help?

Never get upset with them, for starters. It's difficult, I know from extensive experience, but their hands are tied to within their policies and they won't want to help if you tell them off like they probably deserve.
This is how I've played these games and won countless times.
Politely calmly ask:
"So, there is nothing you can do?"
"No, I'm sorry sir, there isn't"
"What is your employee ID#, who is your superior, and how do I contact them? I'd like to pass on a good work for your efforts"
Rinse, repeat. Insist to pass to a superior. They'll tell you nobody can help. Tell them you feel like you deserve to hear it from their boss.
I once had a vp with Sprint (verified that they really were via background checks: on the phone with me to resolve an issue by asking "Well, if you can't help me, someone can approve this. Who can?"
Just keep climbing the ladder.
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
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That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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setspeed said:
That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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I don't blame you, going to try my luck again later with their complaints department. I will update the thread. I think a lot of it depends on who you speak to as well, it's not necessarily speaking to a manager that matters, it's speaking to someone that can relate to your experience.

Good luck, I hope you end up with a decent resolution, but I fear that even if you were to get the phone you want, all the extra money you gave them and spent on petrol is lost. I really wanted an N5 on release day and I even went to my local CPW to take a look at them - thank God they weren't selling the 32GB because I would've bought it there and then. It might've taken a few days longer from Google, but at least I know they won't jerk me around if I have to return it (I returned my N4 last year because I didn't like it enough to keep it over my S3, no issues with refund at all).
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I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
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jRi0T68 said:
I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
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Oh no I completely agree with you there! Sorry I meant you multi-quote. I mean the gateway though, I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?

I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..

Cactus42 said:
I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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Good advice here. I would also get the credit card company involved.
You did pay by credit card didn't you? If not, silly billy.
This is a good way of dragging someone else into the fray on your side and applying pressure on recalcitrant suppliers.

I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
I suppose the service you get depends on which store you go to :/
Also i have to ask...
You got a sim free phone meaning you would have already had another working phone/sim?
Why didnt you just wait for the nexus 5 to get back into stock again? :/
Also looking at your sig...
Why didnt you stick with the Z1?

I'm not defending CPW as the issue you're having is tragic.
But at the same time you made numerous mistakes yourself and undoubtedly made things harder..for yourself.
The first being not waiting for the N5 to get back in stock again from that specific retailer or asking them to find a store where it was in stock and doing an exchange there.
The second, getting a phone you did NOT want and paying an EXTRA £150 for it. You do acknowledge this was an open box and you were still in a position to run the risk that it did not behave as intended. Which unfortunately it did.
Glad you got that IMEI stuff fixed, that was BS on their part. Handy Gentleman at trafford to the rescue! Oh yeah, Thirdly, you were wasting your time with Amy, She was clearly incompetent at her job, producing no results every time you waited for her and continued to wait for her again.
Driving up and down in excess of xx miles is another issue when you could have made the alternative and smarter decision of calling the individual store up. Each CPW store has a different phone number which you can find on the website. Only till you're guaranteed that you can have an exchange or whatever you had desired, you could have popped in. Had that particular store failed to assist you, you wouldn't have to drive back achieving nothing but wasted petrol.
Oh yeah, when you finally spoke to the manager, you conceded and accepted another LG G2, may I reiterate, as you said. A phone you did NOT want. So customer Service was closed but you still had the opportunity for a full refund. Again, why not wait till it was open. [I get it, driving issues but that shouldn't stop you if it causes more 'driving issues' later]
The issue is, you don't wait for things and you take the easiest most convenient option at the time but at the end of the day it's the one you don't like, so you wish-wash out of it and things become more complicated.
The IMEI was unfortunate and yes, incredibly annoying. But that got resolved. The faulty handset is by no means the direct fault of CPW. And you did have a choice in regards to accepting the G2, I really don't see how you're playing the victim card in this aspect with that. In terms of work, you could have used a temp phone in the mean time, nothing fancy, an old nokia could have done the job if you need to make calls. You already had a sim if I'm correct. I figure the refund for the Nexus 5 was not an option the moment you opted for the G2 as that phone supersedes the N5 in terms of pricing. I figure what you want now is a refund for the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 at the £295 pricepoint from CPW that it once had? I don't think that's a realistic expectation anymore mate. At best just accept the refund for the LG G2. The N5 window is gone.
An alternative If you still want the Nexus 5 would be selling your LG G2, boxed and unopen, I hope and buying a N5 at the play store.
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I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
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No, it isn't a realistic demand because once you bought the LG G2, that became a stand alone product independent from any attachment with the N5. Quite simply you have you're head attached to the idea that the Nexus 5 is your main phone from CPW and that the LG G2 is a temp / secondary / repair or whatever. Once you chose the G2, you made your bed, that's where all the concern now lies.
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I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
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Also, this is a clear example that the CPW system does not fail with returns. Ahhhhhhhhh Now I'm contradicting the first sentence in this post. But the problem does not lie with them completely as you make it out.

[Q] Opinions on Nexus program warranty?

My touch screen recently stopped responding altogether. I've had intermittent problems with it, sometimes seeming to be related to whether or not the charger was plugged in (as I've seen some other complaints about this), and sometimes simply inexplicably temporarily stupid. It's been unresponsive entirely for about two weeks now, though. The phone never got wet, bent, dropped, etc.
I called Google's Nexus support and talked to them about it for a while. We did a bunch of stuff over the phone that I deemed entirely unnecessary but did just to placate the customer service rep on the phone with me. I cleared cache, wiped the phone, flashed the latest OTA, basically everything I could do except take it apart while the touchscreen doesn't work. We settled (finally) on needing to RMA the phone.
After creating and setting up the RMA, I was informed that they need to place a $400 on my account while we cross-ship the device. After they checked the device out and the moisture indicator came up clean and whatnot, I'd get my money back. I'm pretty poor, especially given that I have three children, and can't really loan Google $400. I told the rep that if possible, I wanted to simply send them my phone and wait until they did whatever they needed to do, then either told me to eff off or sent me a new phone. He said he'd have to talk to his lead. He did so, and was told that no, there's absolutely no way I could send them my inoperative phone and wait until they could confirm I'd been sent a dud. I have to fork over $400, absolutely, no matter what, until they determine that I'm not a jackass trying to get over on them.
Feeling that this was completely illogical and that there was no way Google would have a ridiculous policy like this, with no exception, I decided to try again a few days later. I talked to a different rep about the situation and was fed basically the exact same verbatim line. I purchased my Nexus 5 on launch day, 6 November. My warranty runs up in a few months and I'll be heading to Afghanistan for an all-expenses paid vacation right before it does. I'm pretty furious about the whole ordeal and, basically, I want to know what kind of experiences other people have had regarding Google's warranty program?
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Same for me. :/

Different story here (Hong Kong), I can just drop it at LG service center then they will take care of it.
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Actually, that brings me to another point. I was advised to call LG to see what they could do for me. LG told me that if I paid to ship it to them, they'd happily repair it for money, then charge me to ship it back. US warranty repair/replacement is all through Google, they told me.
That's a fantastic piece of advice I was offered.

I don't really see the problem. You have a credit card, right? When I had my Nexus 5 replaced, I gave them my credit card number, a pending charge for $400 showed up, and after they received my phone, the pending charge went away. I don't even think the charge ever went past pending on my credit card. I certainly didn't have to actually pay or lend them $400 of my own money.

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I don't really see the problem. You have a credit card, right?
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No. So it's a problem.

DummyPLUG said:
Different story here (Hong Kong), I can just drop it at LG service center then they will take care of it.
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Same here in Slovenia, you Americans are really getting robbed by that capitalism lol,to give them a 400$ loan I mean omg,and I'm grateful that I live in the EU where the rights of consumers are protected and every phone bought here has a 24month warranty
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After creating and setting up the RMA, I was informed that they need to place a $400 on my account while we cross-ship the device. After they checked the device out and the moisture indicator came up clean and whatnot, I'd get my money back. I'm pretty poor, especially given that I have three children, and can't really loan Google $400. I told the rep that if possible, I wanted to simply send them my phone and wait until they did whatever they needed to do, then either told me to eff off or sent me a new phone. He said he'd have to talk to his lead. He did so, and was told that no, there's absolutely no way I could send them my inoperative phone and wait until they could confirm I'd been sent a dud. I have to fork over $400, absolutely, no matter what, until they determine that I'm not a jackass trying to get over on them.
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I assume that Google is doing the "we send you a new phone and once you get it, you send us back the old phone while we hold the price of a Nexus 5 on your credit card account" if I understand your post correctly. I find it a little funny that people can hate this method, as you do, while other people, like myself, love doing it this way.
I had to RMA my Nexus 5 after 1 month of use because it kept rebooting and I was so happy that I was allowed to keep my defective phone (because it can still be used, even though it annoyingly reboots) while waiting for a new device to be shipped to me. I wouldn't know what to do if I had NO cell phone for however long it takes for me to first send them my defective phone and then wait for them to process it and send a replacement phone. I'd guess that would probably take upwards of 2 weeks.
When I used Logitech's RMA process for my mouse, I had to beg them to use the same process. How was I supposed to use my desktop computer with no mouse for 2+ weeks while waiting for a replacement?
Overall, I think Google's warranty program is setup to be consumer friendly, but I can see how it can be a headache for those that are poor.

Also, having my device while waiting for the replacement isn't super useful to me if the entire touchscreen is inoperative. That's the point I tried to make with Google, I don't need a new device ASAP because this one is just as useless as no device. I'm already using an old phone (which I can't stand...).

teonagode said:
Same here in Slovenia, you Americans are really getting robbed by that capitalism lol,to give them a 400$ loan I mean omg,and I'm grateful that I live in the EU where the rights of consumers are protected and every phone bought here has a 24month warranty
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Money is sent to Google so they can send out a second device. Once you have 2x Nexus phones in your hands you can then decide which you want to return and are never left device-less.
There is no loan, just a short hold on your credit card in case you keep both. Cross shipping is a valuable service, but you can choose to deal with LG and be in the same boat as most non-Google phone owners who are forced to wait a month or so for service.

If you don't have $400 to put up as collateral, I would just get a credit card. There are a lot of benefits to having a credit card. You can get 1% to 5% cash back on everything you buy, build credit, get better fraud protection than a debit or ATM card, and you can use it in situations like this as collateral instead of loaning a company your own money.
I do agree that Google should allow standard, old fashioned RMAs for people without credit cards who don't mind waiting though. That sucks.

+1 just RMA my device... Use a credit card they won't charge it just a temporary authorization so no money actually changing hands. Once your device is back in their hands they will cancel the authorization.
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Tmobile charging me $545 for defective phone returned!!

So today I log in to my tmobile and see that I have a balance of $545. My first note 4 wasn't charging so I requested a warranty exchange in April. I called tmobile and they tell me the reason I'm being billed that is because the phone I sent back had a cracked lcd. My phone was in perfect condition when I sent it back. No way in hell was it cracked. The lady said it had a crack on the top right corner by the front camera. Not to mention my bill statement comes out tomorrow so that's another $110 right there. That's $655 due in 3 weeka. This is bull**** if they expect me to pay that. They already started some ticket or some investigation to see how they can solve this. I'm thinking maybe it was damaged while in transit by ups. And if it was damaged by ups, how is that my fault? I told the lady why would I return a cracked phone only to pay $550 for it when I could have just filed an insurance claim and only pay $175. I'm really upset and I'm hoping I'm not charged for this. Anyone else ever have a similar issue?
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That's crazy. I'd fight them on it because you're right. It doesn't make sense when you could just file for insurance replacement. Get it elevated.
Tmo is still building their image and while they've been excellent to me, they can't really afford bad press at the moment. You can get them to back off on those charges, just be persistent.

Nice. File claim with ups

BACARDILIMON said:
Nice. File claim with ups
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assuming he paid insurance with ups.

twe90kid said:
assuming he paid insurance with ups.
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If it was a tmobile phone they always get insurance with replacement phones. Once it leaves my hands it all in ups hands.

Well Tmobile called me the next day. The lady was really nice. I explained the situation and she agreed so they credited me the warranty fee. I feel so relieved because that's a lot of money to just pretty much give away.
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Yeah, dealing with Tmobile sucks. They have done it twice where they say I have never sent my phone back when I jumped. Each time coseted me up to about 100 dollars extra due to paying for two phones while they try to find them. Was told that whatever happens during transit is not my fault and only theirs. Luckiyl the first time they took it off and reimburssed me, but the second time they took it off and didnt pay me back. They also tried to make me pay another month for a phone they just took off my account lol

I've been thinking about switching to T-Mobile because of the better development work being done on the N4 but administrative screw ups like this give me pause...
You can't slam a customer with a $500 mistake and expect good customer relations.

catseyenu said:
I've been thinking about switching to T-Mobile because of the better development work being done on the N4 but administrative screw ups like this give me pause...
You can't slam a customer with a $500 mistake and expect good customer relations.
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I had a feeling they would refund the charge. They are very concerned with their image & customer relations right now which makes them one of the better carriers in terms of customer relations right now. Basically they are beholden to us for their growth and success and they don't need or want bad press. No doubt they will take advantage of those who don't argue charges like that but if that ever happens just get the issue elevated & the charges will disappear.
If they weren't in the position they are I wouldn't be so certain of this but they are desperate to grow & improve and at least for a while, they will bend over backwards for the customers. It's a beautiful thing. I can honestly say after being with all the other carriers for years (5 years each) the last 4 years I've spent with tmobile have been the best. No surprises. it's definitely worth it imo.

catseyenu said:
I've been thinking about switching to T-Mobile because of the better development work being done on the N4 but administrative screw ups like this give me pause...
You can't slam a customer with a $500 mistake and expect good customer relations.
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I switched to tmobile about a year ago, couldn't be happier. Their customer service have always been good to go if I called for anything. Sprint and verizon, not so much.

Thanks, I appreciate the reassurance.
I'm with Sprint & have had no problems with direct customer service but that last update they pushed out is a total fiasco IMO.
Do not take THE OE1 UPDATE U CANT ODIN BACK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/oe1-update-odin-t3118554

catseyenu said:
Thanks, I appreciate the reassurance.
I'm with Sprint & have had no problems with direct customer service but that last update they pushed out is a total fiasco IMO.
Do not take THE OE1 UPDATE U CANT ODIN BACK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/oe1-update-odin-t3118554
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Oh man that's terrible!

catseyenu said:
I've been thinking about switching to T-Mobile because of the better development work being done on the N4 but administrative screw ups like this give me pause...
You can't slam a customer with a $500 mistake and expect good customer relations.
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Honestly, I've had nothing but great experiences with customer service. Any issue I've ever had have been resolved. This being the biggest one and it was taken care of by the next day. I highly recommend tmobile to anyone.
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Sprint total equipment protection problem

The microphone on my Nexus 6 is dead, people can't hear me during calls unless I am on speakerphone or Bluetooth. I'm trying to get a replacement/refurbished phone to get me by until the new pixel devices are released. On the asurion website there is no option for Nexus 6 or xt1103 as a replacement and I am having trouble getting in touch with an actual representative of asurion. My question is how is everybody here getting refurbed Nexus 6's? Asurion has me listed as owning a Moto fire xt, which is a device that was released in 2011. I don't want to start a claim until I have confirmation that I will be receiving an actual Nexus 6. Thanks!
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Highway 55 said:
The microphone on my Nexus 6 is dead, people can't hear me during calls unless I am on speakerphone or Bluetooth. I'm trying to get a replacement/refurbished phone to get me by until the new pixel devices are released. On the asurion website there is no option for Nexus 6 or xt1103 as a replacement and I am having trouble getting in touch with an actual representative of asurion. My question is how is everybody here getting refurbed Nexus 6's? Asurion has me listed as owning a Moto fire xt, which is a device that was released in 2011. I don't want to start a claim until I have confirmation that I will be receiving an actual Nexus 6. Thanks!
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I have gone straight through Sprint, escalating to the retention department if necessary. The first tier people at Sprint have little authority and in my experience, little knowledge.
I have gotten push back from Sprint people before, and my argument always is; you sell the service, you help solve the problem ?

ktmom said:
I have gone straight through Sprint, escalating to the retention department if necessary. The first tires purple at Sprint have little authority and in my experience, little knowledge.
I have gotten push back from Sprint people before, and my argument always is, you sell the service, you help solve the problem
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[RANT]Yup, My wife and I are about to jump ship on Sprint because of this type of thing (we already have another issue being escalated right now concerning a GS5 that we haven't used since January, and the 24 month payment period was over in February, yet the payment is still on the bill). First, it takes quite a bit of work to be able to talk to an actual person at customer care. Then when that person A) doesn't understand the problem and keeps telling me I am eligible for upgrade, B) They do understand the issue, but are unwilling to help in any way, or C) they simply cant help. Then it needs to be escalated, it is exhausting. I spent 2 hours on the line with them yesterday concerning that GS5 that has been collecting dust since January because the wife bought a Pixel outright.[/RANT]
The reps at the store were adamant that I needed to deal with this through the insurance company. Then I go to Asurion's site to find out that I have been paying insurance premiums on a device that potentially wont get replaced. Then proceed to call Asurion only to be greeted by the automated voice system which will surely be a pain in the ass to get to an actual representative to get this sorted out. All I want is to be provided a service that I have been paying for for 2.5 years now, and it not be a hassle. I cant wait to buy my phone outright from the play store and get device protection from google..

Highway 55 said:
[RANT]Yup, My wife and I are about to jump ship on Sprint [/RANT]
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I thought I'd share that while it took me a bit to decide to leave sprint (been a customer since the early 90s ?), it's the best thing I could have done. Now a TMO customer. My data speeds have improved by a factor of 100! My cost is down 100$/mo, and I added two unlimited data SIMs.
My two numbers are ported within 2 hours, but that's because of TMO. Sprint worked hard at making everything hard as possible to me. The service reps were rude as heck.
I encourage others to make a jump. I don't miss sprint at all.

Note 8 ordered from Samsung is only 20 days old won't power on and Samsung doesn't

I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.

Roughly 3 weeks total to have the new phone from start to finish?...i.e. 1 week to get the instructions, and another 2 weeks (15 days) to receive a new phone. Sounds like they were nice and helpful too...some of the two week delay could be quicker depending on shipping. Doesn't honestly sound too bad overall, but I agree it always sucks to have a problem with a new phone. Not giving you the bonus sounds wrong though, if they still offer it online. Hope it gets sorted out soon!

Maybe a surge fried it!

havrek said:
I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
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That's why I buy from the carrier. Sorry this happened I would be pissed off.

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That's why I buy from the carrier. Sorry this happened I would be pissed off.
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same here; always buy from the carrier if possible

Can you return the items that you bought to the retailer, or are you out of the return period? You might be able to sell them on eBay or craigslist or some place like that to get some of your money back. Then you can get your iPhone.
The only thing that has really ever tempted me about the iPhone is Apple's customer service. They are the kings of customer service. Aside from my phone, everything else that I have is Apple. You know that if you have problems, they will stand behind what they sell and resolution is only a drive down the road (assuming that you have an Apple store nearby. If not, not sure).

of course Apple stands behind their products; when you overcharge for everything, and have the largest profit margins in the electronics world, its easy to provide good service!

Where did you see the promo still ongoing?

Lol.. gee what did they ever do before they had phones...

Seriously, that's pretty good IMO. They are probably factoring the time you take to return the phone to them and the time they ship it to you. Most companies I dealt with for return/exchange will wait for the defective item to be returned first before they send out the replacement. Despite what was said and tested, they will test it themselves to ensure it is defective as well. Once they know it's defective they will ship the replacement. Some have a business supported plan where they will request payment first for a new item and ship immediately. Upon receipt, return instructions and label will be provided for the return. Once returned, they credit your account. So really don't see anything wrong with this. They are doing what other companies I've dealt with are doing from my own experiences.

The only reason why I buy from the carrier is one you don't have to pay for the phone all up front. Especially since I am only keeping it for a year. When the Note9 comes out I can switch this in for the 9. Number 2 is location the carrier stores are all over easy to walk into a store and swap a defective phone out. Or they will ship one overnight. I think Samsung just implementing his no return policy after the Note 7. I read somewhere that Samsung was not replacing phones. Or they are making it really difficult to try to return a phone.

havrek said:
I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
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It is these stories , that I count my blessings that the two devices bought from Samsung direct aren't defective. I think one thing I've learned for others on here is this. I think next time I'll just buy the devices from my provider, after all I bought a T Mobile one from Samsung direct. The T Mobile service is much better.
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The only reason why I buy from the carrier is one you don't have to pay for the phone all up front. Especially since I am only keeping it for a year. When the Note9 comes out I can switch this in for the 9. Number 2 is location the carrier stores are all over easy to walk into a store and swap a defective phone out. Or they will ship one overnight. I think Samsung just implementing his no return policy after the Note 7. I read somewhere that Samsung was not replacing phones. Or they are making it really difficult to try to return a phone.
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That's what I used to think, but after buying from Samsung directly I will NEVER again buy from them. There was a problem with the first phone that had to be returned, and the experience, which is not over, has been a nightmare. If it had been through Verizon, it would have been a piece of cake. It completely changed my mind about any perceived advantages (NONE) of buying from company vs. carrier. I've had all generations of the Note, but after this I'm so burned out on Samsung, I'd consider something else. And actually I don't like the 8 any better than the 7 (which I still have). Their e-commerce department which they route everything through is a joke. They have absolutely no authority and the answer for everything is "wait for a link to be sent to you", which has never happened so far. Lesson learned - I'll vote with my feet.

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Seriously, that's pretty good IMO.
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I think it's horrible. Samsung should offer the option of shipping a new replacement phone immediately for overnight delivery, if OP provides a credit-card number for the value of the phone until the old one is returned. Then Samsung should immediately email a return label for RMA shipping, and cancel the credit-card hold as soon as the defective product is received and verified.
For an expensive new phone that dies within three weeks, anything less than that is a ripoff.
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Zeblade said:
Lol[,] gee what did they ever do before they had phones[?]
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Before phones, people didn't organize their social and commercial activity in a manner that depends on phones--and the cost to productivity was staggering.

Honestly, I always keep a spare phone now exactly for this reason and just make sure the SIM size is the same as my current phone. Kept an HTC One M8 as my backup for a while. Better than being forced to A ) be without a phone or B ) be between a rock and a hard place with paying full price immediately to get a new phone so I can get phone calls. With the backup, I can C ) go through insurance, swappa, or w/e I choose patiently.

mcdanielvzw said:
Honestly, I always keep a spare phone now exactly for this reason and just make sure the SIM size is the same as my current phone. Kept an HTC One M8 as my backup for a while. Better than being forced to A ) be without a phone or B ) be between a rock and a hard place with paying full price immediately to get a new phone so I can get phone calls. With the backup, I can C ) go through insurance, swappa, or w/e I choose patiently.
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Very true!

Gary02468 said:
I think it's horrible. Samsung should offer the option of shipping a new replacement phone immediately for overnight delivery, if OP provides a credit-card number for the value of the phone until the old one is returned. Then Samsung should immediately email a return label for RMA shipping, and cancel the credit-card hold as soon as the defective product is received and verified.
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That would indeed be phenomenal service, but it also sounds like an expensive change that would likely be passed on to consumers via increased pricing. It's expensive enough as it is! I think most of us can manage without overnight delivery, but some sort of middle ground would be reasonable and certainly welcome.

sefrcoko said:
That would indeed be phenomenal service, but it also sounds like an expensive change that would likely be passed on to consumers via increased pricing. It's expensive enough as it is! I think most of us can manage without overnight delivery, but some sort of middle ground would be reasonable and certainly welcome.
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It's only a noticeable expense if a large fraction of their phones fail quickly. And the overnight (as opposed to two-day) shipping isn't all that important. Most of the benefit from the process I described would come from its other aspects, which would have little or no cost compared to their weeks-slower process.

Samsung just protecting themselves from people claiming the phone just broke on its own when it's actually water damage or physical damage. Nothing wrong with them looking over your phone before they issue out a new one.
If you watered service you should have bought it from a carrier or bought an iPhone.
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shook187 said:
Samsung just protecting themselves from people claiming the phone just broke on its own when it's actually water damage or physical damage. Nothing wrong with them looking over your phone before they issue out a new one.
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Sure, but if they have your credit-card number before they send the replacement phone, then if they find that the original phone was not really defective, they can insist that the replacement be returned in new condition (and subject to a standard restocking fee), or else charge the customer for a second phone. So they're fully protected.
If you watered service you should have bought it from a carrier or bought an iPhone.
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Why? Any vendor who sells someone a product that turns out to be defective has an obligation to replace it without an unnecessary, punitive delay.