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Hi Ppl,
I got the official froyo release for Galaxy S India yesterday. Good Good... But wait, is it worth it? I don't know..
Before I upgraded to froyo I had applied the lag fix on 2.1 and the quadrant score showed somewhere at 1700-1800 which is good. Quadrant score on stock showed around 800-900.
Quadrant score on 2.2 stock now shows 925-950. This really pissed me off. I ran another test which is linpack and I got 13 Mflops. I do not understand what's wrong with the froyo update. I read somewhere that 2.2 is not compatible with humming bird processor. Per my understanding 2.2 upgrade should boost the CPU to the next level and the performance should be really good than 2.1.
I was comparing dell streak with galaxy s. I know if I should or not but I just wanted to look at the scores on both. Dell says Streak has a 1 GHz processor and so do Galaxy S. But the linpack score on streak showed 30 Mflops which is way better than Galaxy S which is at 13 Mflops. I really do not understand what the problem here is.
Is there no difference b/w 2.1 and 2.2 on Galaxy S? If yes, 2.2 is a joke I would say.
I am concerned because I still found issues with the froyo update. Its still laggy. I didnt notice much difference b/w 2.1 and 2.2 really
Can anyone help me out with this please?
Thanks,
Ravi
I wouldn't worry too much about quadrant scores, but if your phone is lagging then you probably need to reapply a lag fix. Did you update via Kies? I updated mine a while ago using odin (never had much joy with Kies) and my phone seemed pretty good without a lag fix, I did do a factory reset though before installing. Mines now running spikey's oc rom and oclf and is scoring around 2300 on quadrant, but more importantly the phone is ultra responsive with zero lag
Do a factory reset and reapply a lagfix, you'll get 1600ish quadrant scores again.
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Thanks for the reply, guys. I had read somewhere that the score would be 1600-1800 on stock froyo? Is that not right? Do I still need to apply a lag fix?
And yes. I updated using Kies. I did a factory reset of the phone before and after I update froyo.
Which lag fix do u suggest? Voodoo or OCLF? I guess OCLF uses EXT2 and Voodoo uses EXT4 which is a bit faster than the former right?
who cares about the score, it is all BS
what matter most, is how smooth it runs for you, and when you switch from app to app, and have stuff multitasking in the background
AllGamer said:
who cares about the score, it is all BS
what matter most, is how smooth it runs for you, and when you switch from app to app, and have stuff multitasking in the background
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That FACT should be sticky on this forum.
ok.. I am facing a new problem now. I do not know if this is the right thread or not.
After the froyo official update I noticed I could download apps from the market except for the installation process. Some apps get stuck after a complete download and never gets installed
IS there a fix for this?
Hi there
I am trying to organise a discussion on which android release is best for the milestone/droid. When comparing try and talk about:speed, usability, gaming, battery life and so forth.
P.s anyone getting lagging 3d gaming on gb?
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choudu1 said:
Hi there
I am trying to organise a discussion on which android release is best for the milestone/droid. When comparing try and talk about:speed, usability, gaming, battery life and so forth.
P.s anyone getting lagging 3d gaming on gb?
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Best overall experience performance/game/battery-wise is Eclair (2.1) for sure. If you don't mind loosing some features on GMAPS and not getting the latest GMAIL client. But you need a good sd-card and sd-ext or just not use much apps on the phone, as eclair doesn't support app2sd natively. Ah, good old time where I could play Angry Birds, pause it, open You Tube, watch a video, go back to Angry Birds which was still loaded in memory, no need to reload everything and start again....
I've heard bout that. Honestly I would go back to eclair if it wasn't for the lack of flash and apps2sd. I really don't understand what makes gb so slow
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i think the best blance between features and snappynes is 2.2 . it has a lot of additional features and it runs good. i personally love 2.3 because of the look (im a big fan of the screen-off animation) but its too slow.
Interesting. I know this sounds stupid but what's actually new in 2.2 (excluding jit and apps2sd). And on 2.1 shouldn't that be the best for gaming if you can find a rom that has jit and supports ext2. And can't you get flash from the market anyways?
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JIT takes up a lot of RAM that Milestone doesn't have =)
best performance is still Eclair... Official Froyo is laggy...
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Interesting. I know this sounds stupid but what's actually new in 2.2 (excluding jit and apps2sd). And on 2.1 shouldn't that be the best for gaming if you can find a rom that has jit and supports ext2. And can't you get flash from the market anyways?
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From what I have heard, Eclair has a 30FPS cap, so my favorite would be Froyo. I disable JIT on all ROMs as I don't notice much of a difference.
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But surely 30fps is still rather smooth
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Hi guys !
I'm a new owner of Motorola Milestone and mine came with stock 2.2.1 Froyo installed.
The thing is that despite having Froyo the interface looks just like 2.0. Main screen contains old grey tab that slides up the screen to reveal apps, camera interface is old too and there is no tethering.
I've already checked motorola update software to see if there's anything new, but apparently not and right now I don't have time to root the phone to install custom ROM (2.2 or 2.3). Is there anything I can do to get the new interface working?
Hi, have you tried Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 b4?
I just installed Plants vs Zombies on my Milestone.
No problems on my Milestone running Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 (with my Autokiller Memory settings).
See this video below:
http://youtu.be/tmCMIKdrjGE
I have also played Modern Combat 2 on the same ROM too and have completed the game.
Isn't the Cronos Ginger a custom ROM that needs rooted phone ?
Sorry for such a question, but I'm new to the subject.
pcphobic said:
Hi, have you tried Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 b4?
I just installed Plants vs Zombies on my Milestone.
No problems on my Milestone running Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 (with my Autokiller Memory settings).
See this video below:
http://youtu.be/tmCMIKdrjGE
I have also played Modern Combat 2 on the same ROM too and have completed the game.
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This is not official version (from PopCap). Official needs about 180mb ram free to run.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFqYRzC2fc and see difference.
Modern Combat 2 is working fine with 80-90mb ram free.
But still, has anyone met with such issue when stock froyo has an old interface a'la 2.0 ?
Get ADW launcher from the market. It is the lightest launcher for motorola milstoen
guys ive noticed something.
Of all the roms i think cronos runs the FASTEST. but the launchers seem to lag quite a lot. On miui (laggiest milestone rom) adw is fine(ish). But on cronos it lags
EDIT: Hmmm just checked my phone again. The lag is getting better. Spooky
Android 2.2 keeps alot apps in memory and I task killers like Adao doesn't works as good as it works on 2.1. I miss 2.1 but I'm loving the new apps on 2.2 but the memory management system is poor.
lol that video of PvZ is pathetic. My iPod Touch 4G runs that smoking smooth on its 256mb ram + 800mhz processor and retina display.
The milestone simply cannot do it.
With that said, a 512mb device can do it MUCH better. Even my Nexus S struggles since it only boots with 100mb free. A lot of crap gets killed.
I don't get why Android apps need SO MUCH RAM.
So which version actually uses the smallest amount of RAM?
Right now I'm on 2.2.1 and most of the time I have about 40MB free.
Well, it's not really about how much RAM is free, it's more like how much RAM can be freed in case you need it. So, be it Eclair or Froyo, you get around 30-40 megs free, but Eclair can free 120MB easy, without killing essential apps, while Froyo can do 85-90 with JIT and 100-105 without JIT. Unfortunatelly it is exactly those 15-20MB of RAM that we need to keep out home screen alive, or read and SMS without killing Angry Birds.
And how about Gingerbread? I'm currently waiting for new 'RTM' version of CyanogenMod 7.1 from Nadlabak and I think I'll give it a try.
I'm bored so much everyday something has broken.
With stock rom I can't play dungeon defenders with my PowerSGX 540
And with sucked balls iphone is smooth on this game.
With CM7 browser is laggy and stock kernel is so poor. Look fps in quadrant. F...k quadrant score but just look what a poor fps. After flashing glitch kernel dungeon defenders is so smooth but now it brings millions of bugs.
And now accelerometer doesn't work great it lags on CM7 or MIUI with all type of kernels. And these days are end of gingerbread. We still don't have a great gingerbread or froyo.
I have a great GPU chip great CPU chip I will put all of them into my somewhere. F...k samsung sorry for offtopic I bored so much.
Now CM9 will come with a big "0". Fix bugs fix bugs fix bugs ... And CM10 + a big 0 fix bugs fix bugs.
When can I use this sh*t?
My next phone will be a Windows Phone 7.5 or something. SGS FOR SALE.
LOL. 10 Chars.
Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.
There is no cure for stupidity..
Before I commited myself to a 2 year contract, i researched which phone to buy for a full month. Consequently, i never moan, ***** or whinge like a little girl.
What did you do? Pull your phone out of a hat?
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This guy has a point. I play with a phone, not games though. That's why Android is perfect phone for me
I am really wondering what games he is gonna play on Windows Phone !?
To those joking with OP...can you guys name one gingerbread firmware released by Samsung that is not laggy..buggy etc etc.
Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!
I don't play games that often in mobile,might try the above mentioned combo. I need a firmware that works,trusty alarm clock,etc.Samsung does not give a damn about the bugs on recent firmwares that's the reason i feel with the thread starter.
TigerCourage said:
Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!
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Lets try dungeon defenders. You can't even just open game with this combination.
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Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.
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Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.
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Totally agreed. Flashing back to froyo now. For more ram.
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For games playing, 2.2.1 is only choice.
BHuvan goyal said:
Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.
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Theres no need to bash someone like that. He's got a valid point in terms of games and the lags inspite of the superb hardware our phone has. After all this hardcore specs...gingerbread released by samsung is ****...yeah i know theres CM7...but come on...lets just talk about phone thats just out of the box...
i also just downgraded to froyo 2.2.1 jsd yesterday...its awesume for playing games......and i also applied supercharger script...i get lot of free ram.....
i had also tried jpk but jsd is awesume...
Well, every time I exit 9mm wich is a very demanding game, I get like 179 free ram. Also, the ARC launcher is very optimized to run on low ram (wich makes it lightweight) and doesn't redraw like TouchWiz 3 bull****.
I can't try Dungeon Defenders couse I'm out of internal SD storage all because I have a lot of games installed on my 8GB version xD.
Quadrant scores mean little to nothing in reality though.
Whole thread should change the topic to:
I'm very disappointed because I had no idea what I'm buying and what for I will use it.
well, for me riptide gp, dungeon defenders, shadowgun etc. run perfectly on jvt+doctorz rom v9+thunderbolt tweaks 1.9.1 50 lmk+loopy tweaks+semaphore kernel 1.8.2 at 1200mhz and they are like butter on 1300mhz. u can say my sgs has a bit of a better processor then most sgs out their. i get 4000 quad. easily with this combo. i am very satisfied with gingerbread and i believe windows phone 7 doesnt even these high graphic games so its just a waste of money to move on windows phone or even ios.
Games Get kind of laggy and ain't working smoothley...
I'm using RC4.2 By onecosmic Ics On My galaxy s1 , and using Semaphore kernel 0.81..
Is there anything who could make my situation any beter?
Does Anyone have any idea?
It's happening especially At games like Running Fred , and Blood And Gloory, Falling Fred..
its an RC build and a port please dont expect it to be 100% stable, have you tried those games on gingerbread?
yes, they were kind of laggy there too... any idea?
Semaphore may have been the best Gingerbread kernel for gaming, but my experience with cm9 alpha builds have shown that the stock ICS kernels are better than semaphore 0.8.1 when it comes to gaming.
hi. Some Games are laggy on smartphones with low RAM and slow processor. Buy yourself the SGS2 and the games will be run......
Sorry, but it's as if i'd come here an say: Hey, why can't I run MW3 in my brand new Commodore 64?
Look, I just know that it's speciphic My phone, I saw others galaxy s devices who running games smoothley than my phone, so I just seak to know, what can I do..?
hi i just tried running fred on my phone and it was running smoothly. im on jvu with semaphore. overclocked to 1200, governors ondemand40, low memory killer bigmem. i also have chainfire3d installed.
hope my setting could help.
I think it's a mobile not a PSP or Nintendo DS.
OK You can play Games with your mobile but every mobile is different. Other apps, other settings, other ROM, other Kernel, aso. aso.
When you say your mobile running laggy search for apps running in the background and are not required. Kill them and play again. When its better, search for settings which you can change to optimize your mobile.
We cant say you must do this and than that, because your apps and mobile settings not visible for us and as I said above .... each mobile is different
Hi,
I had trouble getting Dead space to work on my Optimus Black but found if you use the Samsung apps version it works fine, not sure why.
Peace,
KedarWolf.
dead space working
Hi, in my LGP970 dead space game is working fine, i dono whether its samsung version or not, but the game is really good and am already playing a lot of HD games,
I'm using zeus 6.22 ROM with performance governor.......
Thank you