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Frustrated Archos 70 user here. How much space is available to install apps on the stock Dell Streak 7 rom? I'm thinking of flipping my A70 for a Streak 7 mainly because the A70 only allows for 300mb of apps (unless you want to void your warranty).
Thanks, all.
thiazzi said:
Frustrated Archos 70 user here. How much space is available to install apps on the stock Dell Streak 7 rom? I'm thinking of flipping my A70 for a Streak 7 mainly because the A70 only allows for 300mb of apps (unless you want to void your warranty).
Thanks, all.
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16 GB, and get Apps2sd pro you can move apps to a SD card.
I would like a2ext because some apps still wont move and they are big
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The /data partition (used for apps & userdata) is 1.9G, I have a ton of crap installed and 1.3G free, and all of my apps are installed to the internal /data (no a2sd here).
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The /data partition (used for apps & userdata) is 1.9G, I have a ton of crap installed and 1.3G free, and all of my apps are installed to the internal /data (no a2sd here).
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Thanks! This was precisely the info I was looking for.
I use appmonster to move games and other non-essential apps over to the "internal sd" card.
I haven't run into any memory issues.
I have been bouncing around looking for a good 7" tablet WiFi only. Looked at several and keep seeing this 16GB internal SD vs app/data. So if I understand correctly you get roughly 1.9GB of available data/app storage with a 16GB SD card (built in) and the apps auto store to the built in card or do you move them as you normally do with Froyo?
I noticed it takes a full sized SDXC card which is odd but that would be for movies and heavy content is my guess.
Does this sound about right?
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I have been bouncing around looking for a good 7" tablet WiFi only. Looked at several and keep seeing this 16GB internal SD vs app/data. So if I understand correctly you get roughly 1.9GB of available data/app storage with a 16GB SD card (built in) and the apps auto store to the built in card or do you move them as you normally do with Froyo?
I noticed it takes a full sized SDXC card which is odd but that would be for movies and heavy content is my guess.
Does this sound about right?
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all apps default to that 1.9gb of storage, but I move ones that aren't system necessary (like launcher pro) to the internal sd card using appmonster. I'll check in a bit and see how much actual storage I am using.
I am using my 16gb sd card (actually a micro with adapter, didn't realize it was a full size, could have saved some money), for movies/ t.v. shows.
Is there anyway to FORCE the apps to use the MicroSD memory instead of the Internal storage?
It seems every app I've installed ( Dropbox, Google Docs, Evernote, etc) uses the internal memory. I have a 32GB MicroSD that seems to be useless right now. I tried moving all the apps to SD, but they still use the Internal Memory to store cache/files
I have yet to see a fix for this as well. The way I work around this is if the app saves files to the internal storage there is usually a setting in the settings menu that will allow you to change where it saves files. For instance with the TapeRecorder app. It automatically saves files to the sdcard (which Motorola stupidly named the internal storage for). I go to the settings and change the "sdcard" to "sdcard-ext", then it works!
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
Sorry this next generation android phone just like Droid X it has dedicated app memory. That memory is used strictly for those apps. U can put 500 apps and not run out of room. SD card is used for media music movies etc
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For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
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Is this why When I selected "Move to Media Area" the application shortcut disappears from the "All Apps" menu?
I moved 2 games to the "Media Area" and now they are gone... they are still installed, but I have no way of accessing them. (I know they are still installed because when I went to reinstall, it said something about it replacing an app thats already install)
After researching more, and fumbling through the phone I discovered that Motorola has deemed the 8GB of Internal memory as an SDCard.
Another FAIL for Motorola, and I doubt there will ever be a fix for this. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Stated on the Motorola Forums:
Folks, it's the storage naming system in Android. If you go to any forum for any phone with internal and external memory you'll see the same complaints. There are multiple threads about it here.
Even though in Motorola's file manager you see "internal phone memory" and "SD Card", the internal memory is actually "sdcard" and the external is "sdcard-ext". Like I said, it's like this on every brand of phone with this set up.
So, what's happening is the apps are saving to the internal memory because it is, in fact, the SD card. Motorola has tried to remedy this confusion by discontinuing to say "move to SD" and instead now calls it "Move to Media area".
And no, your external SD is not useless. You can still set your photos from the camera to save directly to your external, you can still put music and movies and all kinds of media on your external and your phone will see them just fine. This is why there is a 16GB card included with your phone, so you can use it for media and if you want to move your apps off of the system memory to save space you move it to the 8GB internal area. Of course 8GB is still plenty of space for apps and other media as well
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EDIT: BFirebird101 stated this to, I don't know why, but when I was scrolling it passed over his post. Didn't mean to restate what he said.
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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The Stock Music App seems to find the music files just fine on the MicroSD (just add some to try) and the Gallery Finds the Pictures. But I don't give a damn about Music or Pictures.
I have 123MB of the "Internal Memory" (SDCard) left - after I loaded all my work documents (spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc) & E-books. Right now I have to Move the file from the SDcard (InternalMemory) to the SDCard-Ext(MicroSD) after I've edit it and reuploaded it to Google Docs, then if I want to Edit it agian, I have to move it back to the SDCard(Internal Memory) Just so Google Docs will see it again.
Stock? That's okay, I'll pass. I froze those apps with TiBackup.
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i use videovault and when i pulled my video vault folder from my old backup and loaded it to the external SD, the VideoVault did not find them. There is no way i will load 4GB of videos into my Internal 8GB card just so i can haz my pronz!
What I noticed is this seems to be very similar to how the Xoom and Honeycomb handles sdcards and internal storage (minus the fact that we still cant write to sdcards on stock honeycomb....) so it could be Motorola setup the phone this way for a smoother migration to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out?
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
You would think with all the Smart/Nerdy People on this site, someone would come up with a way to Rename the partitions Motorola has setup.
If it was just possible to rename the "SDCard-Ext" To "SDCard" ...
The reason you have no issue is Asus did a hack mod to get the SD card to work. Moto did the same on European xooms but on USA version its a google product there fore moto has no control on software manipulation. As for apps to SD card there is no need the device has dedicated app storage stritctly for apps.
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If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
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Why does my Captivate only limit me to having 2GB of space for apps? I'm not using an external SD card and I want to install my apps onto my internal SD card or atleast move them there.
It's been a while since I have been on a stock ROM so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can move at least some of the apps by going to settings / applications and then, in the individual application settings, select "Move to SD."
I know you can't move widgets or alarm applications because they will break if they aren't on internal memory, but you should be able to move games, etc. with no problem.
Move to SD was not available on Eclair... what are you running?
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I'm on 2.2 right now. There is an option to move to SD but it only moves it to external SD not the internal one. It's split up into 3 sections
Internal Memory
Internal SD Card(I want apps to go here)
External SD card
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I'm on 2.2 right now. There is an option to move to SD but it only moves it to external SD not the internal one. It's split up into 3 sections
Internal Memory
Internal SD Card(I want apps to go here)
External SD card
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Ah, now I understand. I never had enough apps on Froyo to play with moving them but shooting from the hip, have you tried removing your external card and see if it will let you move them then? If not, I know that there are apps2sd applications on the market that should help you, but I haven't used any of them to give you a recommendation.
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Ah, now I understand. I never had enough apps on Froyo to play with moving them but shooting from the hip, have you tried removing your external card and see if it will let you move them then? If not, I know that there are apps2sd applications on the market that should help you, but I haven't used any of them to give you a recommendation.
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I've used all of those methods and none work.
Did you find solution? I have same situation here, it's pretty weird internal SD could only be stored with application data instead of application itself.
I'm almost positive that you can't move apps to your "internal SD card" regardless of whether or not you have an external sd card installed.
My understanding is that you can only move apps to the external SD card (at least that's how it's been on any ROM I've ever used)
why... Why! WHY!!! . . . oh >.>
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Why does my Captivate only limit me to having 2GB of space for apps? I'm not using an external SD card and I want to install my apps onto my internal SD card or atleast move them there.
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Why you ask...
Well simple, your limited to only 2GB because this size was choosen by phone manufacturors years ago when they were first designing the phone.
Consider that most of the phones in use back when 2.2 was released did not, for the full storage potential, even have the 2GB that we have just for apps (16GB in total). Heck most did not even have 1GB (I think 512MB was the standard). There was no separation between app storage and other media. This lead to users running out of space for both rather quickly. The solution then was to find use for the external SD as it could be as large as 32GB of storage.
The whole "internal SD" thing was thought up because it seemed wise to separate app storage from media storage. Also back when 2.2 was first released we did not have such massive apps as on the market today, so 2GB was plenty of any and all user (excluding the ppl who felt a need to have 200+ user apps...)
So, you can't store apps to the "internal SD" because that's not what it is meant to be used for. When companies decided to start putting such massive storage into the phone there was no reason for it to be any bigger.
As to only being able to move apps to the external SD, simple; Google did not design Android to do so.
To allow such would require changing how Android sees the "Internal SD" and to change how the app to SD function works, it is not currently written to check for multiple SD cards. I don't see any Dev willing to take up the task when the solution to running out of app space has already been solved by a much better means.
A different way to view the problem would be to ask (or learn, as that's the xda way) about re-sizing the partition to make the app storage larger. If enough people ask (politely!) maybe one of the Devs can be convinced to make it standard in their ROM that it be more then the default 2GB, or someone might make an app or flashable .zip that allows for re-sizing.
lt:dr - phone is old, based on old specs (think pre- 2.1 Android).
Sigh, this is exactly what I was worried about when upgrading from my EVO 3D.
I noticed my new M8 has a sdcard0 and extsdcard folder. And of course, the apps and games which download hundreds of megs of data in order to run are downloading to the 24 gig internal sdcard0 mount point instead of the nearly empty 64gig extsdcard0 mountpoint. I really REALLY hate how so many Android phones seem to do this, why can't it just be partitioned as internal instead of faking a sdcard, thus making large apps install to internal with no option of installing to the actual external card?
Anyway, without rooting my phone, is there any way I can somehow set it so apps download and install their data to the actual SD card? The whole reason I didn't get the M7 was because I don't want my data to be stuck on the phone's internal memory in case anything happens, as well as to not waste internal memory space on several hundred megs or even gigs of data when I can use a large sdcard for that.
I believe u can go to manage apps and move apps to the sd card. Some may not be able to if it's not comparable but a lot of them should.
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I believe u can go to manage apps and move apps to the sd card. Some may not be able to if it's not comparable but a lot of them should.
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I tried that, it only moves the app executable to the SD card, not the hundreds of megs of additional data it downloaded. The app management screen even tells me how much of this additional data is on the internal memory and how much of it is on the SD card (it's all on internal), but moving the app doesn't move the additional data to the SD card.
One would assume that the ext sd 's bus interface would be quick enough to not bog any app which would be using it. That being the case htc has no excuse for not having interchangeable symbolic mounting points between the two sd's. Ive physcally moved some of the data from app's (dcim, and random music ) directories to the extsd, and at least it unburdens the internal sd.
The apk resource fork in these systems could be processed better in android and it's sdk, or even the runtime.
F yes it sucks.
Hi,
I'm trying to be patient and wait for the 32gb S5 to be available but:
Here's my question:
After you get your 16 gb S5, and then you install all your must have apps,
how much space is actually left on the internal storage????
This is assuming you put all your music,videos on a sd card.
Thanks, Ken
approximately, 9 GB left, yes all music,photos,video and some apps are on sdcard
You don't need 32. I have a crazy amount of apps, i use google music and i have tons of songs saved on my SD card. i have about 8.5 gigs still left on internal storage. see screenshot.
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available space is 9.11GB
With 50 apps installed, available space is 9.11GB.
Space taken by .thumbnails (302 MB) and whatsapp (271MB mostly pictures and videos)
My photos, video, music are on SD card.
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yoonus said:
With 50 apps installed, available space is 9.11GB.
Space taken by .thumbnails (302 MB) and whatsapp (271MB mostly pictures and videos)
My photos, video, music are on SD card.
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Hi,
And thanks for all your replies. On my S4 I have 2.62gb in apps and backup program I use.
So, doing the math, I can install everything on the 16 gb S5 and possibly have 7 plus gigs left.
I think that may work out well then!!!!
Ken
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Hi,
I'm trying to be patient and wait for the 32gb S5 to be available but:
Here's my question:
After you get your 16 gb S5, and then you install all your must have apps,
how much space is actually left on the internal storage????
This is assuming you put all your music,videos on a sd card.
Thanks, Ken
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I got about 8.4 go left and I have everything on my SD card and some of my apps. Before I moved my apps I had about 7.5 go left
TBH I was holding out for the GS5 32GB as well but finally caved as I didn't want to be stuck with the GN3 any longer. So far I installed my usual list of apps and I did move what apps I could and only the portion of the app that will transfer to the microSD card. My d/l of apps is usually about 1.5-1.8GB so after I moved the apps I have over 10GB left and I feel I can live with it.
That said IF Samsung doesn't start offering the GS in a 32GB version on the S6 and up I likely won't stay regardless of how much I like their hardware. For me you need MORE storage not less and the included bloatware was a joke. Oddly you could disable much more this time around compared to the GN3 including Flipboard but still I want more.
I use my S5 as my mobile media device and I have a 64gb external storage card cause my tab 3 doesn't support over 32gb. the fact that, one post said I don't need that much external memory is not a heavy user as others are.
My issue is that with os 4.4.x and later, they stopped allowing a user to write from device memory to external memory via apps. This sounds like an iphone setup to me. I have had all galaxy s series from the s2 to current s5 and to take that option to transfer from device memory to external storage memory via my apps is making me wonder about Android becoming more of an iPhone than an Android.
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i dunno, i've apps on my s5 that are happily maintaining data on the sd card i put in.
The default Camera among them.
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My issue is that with os 4.4.x and later, they stopped allowing a user to write from device memory to external memory via apps. This sounds like an iphone setup to me. I have had all galaxy s series from the s2 to current s5 and to take that option to transfer from device memory to external storage memory via my apps is making me wonder about Android becoming more of an iPhone than an Android.
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I second this complaint. Just another reason I want root.
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i dunno, i've apps on my s5 that are happily maintaining data on the sd card i put in.
The default Camera among them.
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@C0derbear.. my concern is the transferring of photos and videos from device folders to sd card folders using the prespective app for moving or copying on the S5
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'Prespective' app? I'll need to look that one up. Not familiar.
Do you mean 'perspective' by a54studio?
I thought by perspective apps, he meant apps like file explorers.
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I think Qwayke just made a typo. He meant to say *respective* apps.
Transferring using e included file manaher works fine to be sure. I do it all the time with pics downloaded from Web or FB.