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Hi,
I have stock ICS rom LP4 which custom rom is safe to flash?
I once tried to flash abyss kernel 4.2 it bricked my phone, i had my motherboard replaced.
So just wanted to confirm which custom rom's I can flash.
--->First flash a stock GB ROM of your country by following dr.Ketan's guide.
--->Since you have already once bricked you MB,I guess you wouldn't be feeling safe with a brickbug kernel so flash ROMs which use the CM9 kernel as base.The ones which I know about are-ParanoidAndroid,AOKP,MIUI,CM9(duh).
--->You can also try flashing ROMs which use franco kernel,speedmod kernel.
--->NEVER WIPE from a stock ICS kernel.
For more info on installing above ROMs check individual threads in the development section and follow the instructions word-for-word.
But i have heard downgrading also has problems
matharuajay said:
I once tried to flash abyss kernel 4.2 it bricked my phone
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I really don't think abyss kernel bricked your device. There might be another reason...
matharuajay said:
But i have heard downgrading also has problems
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Like ?
Flashing a stock GB ROM via PC Odin has absolutely no problems at all.
Yup flashed a GB rom now analysing which custom rom to flash
me also Mine should be arriving any time soon ! cant wait to flash Paranoid Android. Is it necessary to downgrade to GB if the Note comes with official ICS ?
I thought I just need to flash a safe kernel (abyss) then flash the ROM ?
NEVER flash CM9 release from an ICS kernel.
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how can i flash properly a cm9 or cm10 rom if i'm currently using kingdroid v7.1 and notecore kernel ???
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If you mean notecore kernel.. It is safe to flash roms from there as it has MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled and you can perform all the necessary wipes in order to flash the new rom
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Notecore is safe but not any ics.kernel is safe to flash cm base ROM
Dont understand why op asking someone tried, why someone flash from ics when it can brick device. Just to try brick?
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dr.ketan said:
Notecore is safe but not any ics.kernel is safe to flash cm base kernel.
Dont understand why op asking someone tried, why someone flash from ics when it can brick device. Just to try brick?
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Well if he by "glnote" kernel means stock ics I think this thread should be reported/blocked
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dr.ketan said:
Notecore is safe but not any ics.kernel is safe to flash cm base kernel.
Dont understand why op asking someone tried, why someone flash from ics when it can brick device. Just to try brick?
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i'm sorry cause in a cm10 based thread i asked if it is safe to flash cm10 with notecore kernel and someone said that it's a safe kernel..So what do they mean by that? just finding a way how properly flash cm9 or cm10 if i'm on kdv7.1 ics and my kernel is notecore v13.. sorry for the misunderstanding....
i meant notekernel by gavin..
Notekernel is safe means you can safely wipe, flash CWM, can take nadroid backup/Restore on ICS ROM only.
Here in your case this safety have no concern. Notecore is TW based ICS kernel. You can't flash CM based ROM on any ICS based kernel/ROM.
To flash CM based ROM, get GB ROM/Kernel + CWM and flash CM based ROM using that.
Yes. Flash using pc odin, then root and install cwm, before flashing cm9.
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dr.ketan said:
Notekernel is safe means you can safely wipe, flash CWM, can take nadroid backup/Restore on ICS ROM only.
Here in your case this safety have no concern. Notecore is TW based ICS kernel. You can't flash CM based ROM on any ICS based kernel/ROM.
To flash CM based ROM, get GB ROM/Kernel + CWM and flash CM based ROM using that.
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That is 100% wrong,
you CAN flash CM{9,10} from a safe kernel, be it SpeedMod, franco or NoteCore, exactly the same way you can flash a TW rom from a CM kernel, as long as it's a safe kernel you can do whatever you want.
Now, if you flash NoteCore *after* you flash CM, your device won't boot, however you can always use the recovery to install a CM kernel or just a TW rom.
You do NOT need to flash a whole GB ROM, you can just flash the kernel and boot into it's recovery.
Also, you do NOT need a GB kernel or Abyss to flash anything as long as you have a safe kernel, aka SpeedMod, NoteCore, CM9/10, Thor, etc.
Your statement about flashing a whole GB ROM just to flash CM is misleading and wrong.
I still appreciate all your useful posts.
@PierreTech, it is 100% safe to wipe and install CM from NoteCore.
Steps :
0. Do a nandroid backup or a titanium backup. (optional really)
1. Reboot into recovery.
2. Do a factory reset.
3. Install CM9/10/whatever.
4. If it doesn't include google apps, make sure you have the appropriate zip file and flash it too.
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That is 100% wrong,
you CAN flash CM{9,10} from a safe kernel, be it SpeedMod, franco or NoteCore, exactly the same way you can flash a TW rom from a CM kernel, as long as it's a safe kernel you can do whatever you want.
Now, if you flash NoteCore *after* you flash CM, your device won't boot, however you can always use the recovery to install a CM kernel or just a TW rom.
You do NOT need to flash a whole GB ROM, you can just flash the kernel and boot into it's recovery.
Also, you do NOT need a GB kernel or Abyss to flash anything as long as you have a safe kernel, aka SpeedMod, NoteCore, CM9/10, Thor, etc.
Your statement about flashing a whole GB ROM just to flash CM is misleading and wrong.
I still appreciate all your useful posts.
@PierreTech, it is 100% safe to wipe and install CM from NoteCore.
Steps :
0. Do a nandroid backup or a titanium backup. (optional really)
1. Reboot into recovery.
2. Do a factory reset.
3. Install CM9/10/whatever.
4. If it doesn't include google apps, make sure you have the appropriate zip file and flash it too.
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Hehe dr.ketan I gotta agree this guy... You can use notecore kernel to flash any ICS custom rom... Aosp or tw.. As when you flash the rom via cwm the rom will flash its own kernel... In the case of CM9/10 the proper kernel will be flashed along with the rom overwriting notecore/speedmod..
But I can not agree the tone he does make things clear.. He could just kindly say no dude this works this way or that...
I'm sure you know way more things than me or him but in this little thing they guy its right
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I meant no disrespect to dr.ketan, without his great guide I wouldn't have been able to root my phone.
Oh, i really dont mind. It.is possible i may not knowing everything . My opinion was just based on Instruction on cm9 thread where it is mentioned that cm based rom shudn't flash on ics based rom, and that only thing i took into reference. I never have used any custom rom so may be not aware of fact, but this also be useful if such clearification to be made on installation instruction on op of cm rom thread, as really i m feeling awkward to go against developers instruction.
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@life.eq.null
You finds my statement to flash full rom misleading and wrong, but actually
I already used word 'GB ROM/Kernel' to flash.
That just means either rom or kernel. I never said you need to flash only ROM. I showing you one possibility, if someone on Non rootable GB ROM, then it will not be easy task to flash Full prerooted/rootable ROM to get CWM? in that case it is niether misleading nor 100% wrong.
Now here i am copying text written on CM9 thread installation instruction
Make sure to run CM9 or an AOSP-based ROM : FLASHING FROM STOCK ICS OR ROMS BASED ON STOCK ICS WILL RESULT IN A BRICK!
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Now if my statement is 100% wrong. totally misleading then you should head up to developers of CM9, to edit instruction in more clear way. b'coz here ROM itself said to avoid, no instruction about to use safe kernel mentioned.
I am agree your information may be recent and experience based, even i can say may be better and useful to users who are on safe kernel. But that doesn't make older instruction wrong and misleading, when till now everybody following this instruction which is instructed by developer only.
Regards.
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That's the reason why i'm doubting to flash cm10 over my rom/kernel.. Anyway thanks. Learned a lot
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PierreTech said:
That's the reason why i'm doubting to flash cm10 over my rom/kernel.. Anyway thanks. Learned a lot
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"Quote:
Make sure to run CM9 or an AOSP-based ROM : FLASHING FROM STOCK ICS OR ROMS BASED ON STOCK ICS WILL RESULT IN A BRICK!"
I think they only talk about the Kernel, not about the whole rom. I flashed many times a cm9 rom on a stock ics rom, but always AFTER flashing through CWM a safe cm9 kernel, or abyssnote4.2.
from ics stock, usually I boot to recovery, apply the cleaning script Sybr, flash my safe kernel (do not reboot, it will work now), do the 3 wipes, then flash new rom cm9 based. then reboot.
Hi,
I'm currently on stock ICS (4.0.4).
My phone has recently started occasionally/randomly restarting itself.
I've read that doing a factory reset or data wipe will result in a brick so was thinking of switching to a custom rom.
What's the best Jelly Bean rom? or isn't there a good stable one?
If not then what's the best stable/usable ICS rom and how do I get there from stock?
I know I need to flash GB via pc odin, but what after that?
There are warnings that say "FLASHING FROM STOCK ICS OR ROMS BASED ON STOCK ICS WILL RESULT IN A BRICK!"
I just wanna be as clear as possible. Would hate to have a brick.
Thanks.
K1LLER HORNET said:
Hi,
I'm currently on stock ICS (4.0.4).
My phone has recently started occasionally/randomly restarting itself.
I've read that doing a factory reset or data wipe will result in a brick so was thinking of switching to a custom rom.
What's the best Jelly Bean rom? or isn't there a good stable one?
If not then what's the best stable/usable ICS rom and how do I get there from stock?
I know I need to flash GB via pc odin, but what after that?
There are warnings that say "FLASHING FROM STOCK ICS OR ROMS BASED ON STOCK ICS WILL RESULT IN A BRICK!"
I just wanna be as clear as possible. Would hate to have a brick.
Thanks.
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JB roms are still in development and not so stable for daily use yet. For flashing custom ICS you do not have to flash GB rom, just flash safe custom ICS kernel and flash custom rom through cwm recovery.
You can also wipe your current rom after flashing safe custom kernel. No need to flash custom rom just because you cannot wipe on stock kernel
For my personal of view, liquid smooth jb v2.0 beta is the best at the moment.
If you on rooted ics. You can flash jb rom thru safe kernel such as cm9 kernel, gb kernel or notecore kernel.
But please read carefully and understand what noted at op and follow the installation method.
Good luck.
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ok I see.
So I need to go from Stock ICS > Safe ICS > Custom ROM
Have you guys got a link to an easy tutorial?
Thanks
K1LLER HORNET said:
Hi,
I'm currently on stock ICS (4.0.4).
My phone has recently started occasionally/randomly restarting itself.
I've read that doing a factory reset or data wipe will result in a brick so was thinking of switching to a custom rom.
What's the best Jelly Bean rom? or isn't there a good stable one?
If not then what's the best stable/usable ICS rom and how do I get there from stock?
I know I need to flash GB via pc odin, but what after that?
There are warnings that say "FLASHING FROM STOCK ICS OR ROMS BASED ON STOCK ICS WILL RESULT IN A BRICK!"
I just wanna be as clear as possible. Would hate to have a brick.
Thanks.
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Never Never Wipe on ICS as stated in op.
Now everybody knows JB is still under development and in preview. So I think you should have to wait for a stable version to enjoy the juice
For ICS you can try Cleanote v5,Kingdroid or RR for better performance and battery life
Here are the links :-
Cleanote v5 ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716088
Rocket Rom ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654838
Kingdroid ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652831
Hope it Helps
K1LLER HORNET said:
ok I see.
So I need to go from Stock ICS > Safe ICS > Custom ROM
Have you guys got a link to an easy tutorial?
Thanks
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Here is the best thread for rooting and flashing custom kernel on Note- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Once you are rooted and on safe custom kernel you can follow the instructions on your chosen custom rom OP.
In terms of safer installation method. It have too many of opinions around note forum. Some will say flash any rom or nandroid by using abssy 4.2 kernel, some will say not neccesary to use abssy 4.2 kernel with the secure and safe kernel exists such as notecore and speedmod kernel.
Some will advice you must go back gb before flash cm base rom and some will tell you totally bull**** and not neccesary to go back gb before flash cm base rom with secure tw kernel around.
Confuse? For me, all of them have the right opinion and nothing wrong with them. Thats your own smartphone which cost about usd 500. If you scare of something, just follow the long installation method. If you feel lazy to take do such of long intallation step, you can always use the secure kernel to swap in between gb, tw and cm base rom.
But anyway, is your own asset, your own choice. You are the one who will take full responsibility for doing any modification, rooting and flashing. Not anyone else here.
You can always refer dr.ketan advice.
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Thanks everyone.
I will follow all your advice when I'm ready flash the rom. Most likely tomorrow.
I would click the thanks button for you all but I am "limited to 8 thanks per day"
Thanks again.
K1LLER HORNET said:
Thanks everyone.
I will follow all your advice when I'm ready flash the rom. Most likely tomorrow.
I would click the thanks button for you all but I am "limited to 8 thanks per day"
Thanks again.
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Simpler if you are on warranty and you can make use of it and off you don't want to flash or to scared to do a flash then wipe if the phone bricks you can send it on ssc for repair on warranty.
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Looks like the Stunner ROM thread is dead here. I'm on stunner rom 1.6.26 (kernel version3.0.32-CM-g12ef675) and I want to get on another rom. What all do I have to do in order to get off of Stunner rom safely? What roms would you recommend that I move too and why?
Namuh said:
Looks like the Stunner ROM thread is dead here. I'm on stunner rom 1.6.26 (kernel version3.0.32-CM-g12ef675) and I want to get on another rom. What all do I have to do in order to get off of Stunner rom safely? What roms would you recommend that I move too and why?
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You are on safe kernel so can flash custom roms directly using cwm. But to avoid any issue best is to flash pre-rooted GB rom using odin and then flash any custom rom you like.
My personal fav are Kingdroid, Criskelo and there is no why, I like them does not means others will like them too, it's just matter of personal choice as all roms are almost equally good .
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You are on safe kernel so can flash custom roms directly using cwm. But to avoid any issue best is to flash pre-rooted GB rom using odin and then flash any custom rom you like.
My personal fav are Kingdroid, Criskelo and there is no why, I like them does not means others will like them too, it's just matter of personal choice as all roms are almost equally good .
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Thanks for the reply jeetu1981. Is there a certain Pre Rooted GB ROM that I should use to flash? Or do I download a GB rom and THEN root it? Do I use PC odin or Mobile odin? Seems that since I'm on a safe kernel can I just install a rom using a zip, wiping everything and still be safe? Would that be easier or do you recommend I just flash the GB rom first?
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Thanks for the reply jeetu1981. Is there a certain Pre Rooted GB ROM that I should use to flash? Or do I download a GB rom and THEN root it? Do I use PC odin or Mobile odin? Seems that since I'm on a safe kernel can I just install a rom using a zip, wiping everything and still be safe? Would that be easier or do you recommend I just flash the GB rom first?
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Look at my sig. for pre rooted GB, flash it via odin. For better performance GB is recommended but you can flash any custom rom directly as well (being on safe kernel), try it and if you see any lags or issues in performance then do a fresh flash
And yes, wipe is safe on CM and safe custom TW ics kernels. And I would have directly flashed another rom in this situation
Namuh said:
Looks like the Stunner ROM thread is dead here. I'm on stunner rom 1.6.26 (kernel version3.0.32-CM-g12ef675) and I want to get on another rom. What all do I have to do in order to get off of Stunner rom safely? What roms would you recommend that I move too and why?
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there are two ways..
First
Flash a gb rom or prerooted gb rom via pcodin or mobile odin
Or
As you are on stunner which uses a safe kernel just go to recovery,do wipes,flash rom and reboot.as simple as that...
Cheers
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Hey everybody.. Finally i got some strength to flash rom on my SGN.After going thru bunch of posts i got that sgn is affected with brick bug.
So i followed Philz guide about flashing Philz kernel. I have some confusion that
**DO I NEED TO FLASH PHILZ SAFE KERNEL ZIP BEFORE AND AFTER FLASHING ROM**??
Also,Is Philz kernel compatable with all types of ROM available for SGN? If not then which kernel?
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Hey everybody.. Finally i got some strength to flash rom on my SGN.After going thru bunch of posts i got that sgn is affected with brick bug.
So i followed Philz guide about flashing Philz kernel. I have some confusion that
**DO I NEED TO FLASH PHILZ SAFE KERNEL ZIP BEFORE AND AFTER FLASHING ROM**??
Also,Is Philz kernel compatable with all types of ROM available for SGN? If not then which kernel?
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What ROM have you flashed exactly? Philz kernel is only compatible with Samsung (Touchwiz) Roms. If you have flashed a new ROM chances you are using the built-in kernel.
See...if you have read carefully then you have noticed that the brickbug is present in ics only.brickbug isnt present in gb.and for jb i am not sure....
As far as philz kernel is concerned it is based on touch and present for ics and jb.
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This isn't the answer to my question.. I asked do i need to flash kernel before and after flashing rom?
mannyvinny said:
This isn't the answer to my question.. I asked do i need to flash kernel before and after flashing rom?
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You don't need to flash the kernel after flashing the Custom roms, since almost all custom roms will have safe kernel with them.. on the other hand, you will have to flash a safe kernel after flashing the rom, if you are flashing a stock ICS rom..
What if custom rom doesnt come with a safe kernel?
There aren't generalized rules covering all scenarios. You'll have to mention from which rom you are going to which rom.
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mannyvinny said:
What if custom rom doesnt come with a safe kernel?
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Then learn to read the OP. There will be instructions as to what to do if the rom doesn't come with a safe kernel.
mannyvinny said:
What if custom rom doesnt come with a safe kernel?
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keep alternative tar file of a safe kernel compatible with your present rom on sd card and then flash it through mobile odin - this method of switch over is safe
those unsafe kernels have certain distinct plus points, thats why the devs put them in custom roms and if you are an expert and can handle them ......surf on them and feel the difference...... (not for newbies and noobs)
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This isn't the answer to my question.. I asked do i need to flash kernel before and after flashing rom?
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this is how i flash my galaxy note but im not saying its how u should do it: i usually have the rom in my sd card cmw as well as well as superuser. then i flash cmw and then super user..reboot system..after being rooted i then flash a safe kernel after flashing i reboot recovery which is the new kernel recovery ..there i wipe and clean everything..then i flash rom..so to answer your question, i would say flash safe kernel before flashing rom as most roms require a clean install for better performance
good luck..oh i am also a noob..running alliance rom 1.1
mannyvinny said:
Hey everybody.. Finally i got some strength to flash rom on my SGN.After going thru bunch of posts i got that sgn is affected with brick bug.
So i followed Philz guide about flashing Philz kernel. I have some confusion that
**DO I NEED TO FLASH PHILZ SAFE KERNEL ZIP BEFORE AND AFTER FLASHING ROM**??
Also,Is Philz kernel compatable with all types of ROM available for SGN? If not then which kernel?
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To answer your question, if you need to flash a kernel, it needs to be done BEFORE you do any wipes.
If you flash a custom rom, chances are it comes with a custom kernel as people have mentioned. Mostly, these are safe. But to be sure, make sure that you have flashed a custom kernel and rebooted to recovery before you wipe. If this concerns you greatly, then follow the advice in Dr. Ketan's excellent rooting thread, and install the stock rooted Gingerbread rom provided there. This has a stock kernel, but as it is Gingerbread, it is completely safe to wipe. You can then go and flash whatever you want on top.