Sorry if this might be a redundant post, but i assure you I searched a Lot (in XDA and web in general) for Viable Solve that Works and gets my Dell Tablet Finally Rooted?
BTW, while I am a newer member on XDA and by no means a developer, I am Not a Noob when it comes to these processes.
I've got experience rooting, as my G2x has been Rooted for months, running Hellfire Mod with no problems.....But my Tablet; a Dell Streak 7 is a whole other story.
I've tried Multiple times; different versions of S.O.C., reloading drivers (windows 7 devices & printers shows no yellow warning sign and when checking driver status within S.O.C. it shows No Issues), I've tried with Debugging On AND Off, Shut Down Anti-Virus, etc etc.
Here's a Screenshot (lil faded since the Not Responding Cursor was circling at the time) of what's going on;
Any Assistance Greatly Appreciated, THX!
loanusum said:
Any Assistance Greatly Appreciated, THX!
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IF YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF DOING THIS WITHOUT THE USE OF FASTBOOT YOU DO NOT DESERVE ROOT!!!!
I don't know how many people have f***ed up their devices by using "one-clicks" so don't do it.
don't be lazy, get off your ass and do it properly, download a custom recovery boot into fastboot, use the command "fastboot flash recovery <insert name & directory to your CWM/TWRP.img here>"
FFS USE THE F***ING SEARCH FEAUTRE AS THIS METHOD OF ROOTING DEVICES IS ALWAYS THE SAME WITH DEVICES WITH UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS
Deep breaths, Nocturnal_50, lol.
Nocturnal Needs some sleep i think........dude's definitely got some anger issues
loanusum said:
Sorry if this might be a redundant post, but i assure you I searched a Lot (in XDA and web in general) for Viable Solve that Works and gets my Dell Tablet Finally Rooted?
BTW, while I am a newer member on XDA and by no means a developer, I am Not a Noob when it comes to these processes.
I've got experience rooting, as my G2x has been Rooted for months, running Hellfire Mod with no problems.....But my Tablet; a Dell Streak 7 is a whole other story.
I've tried Multiple times; different versions of S.O.C., reloading drivers (windows 7 devices & printers shows no yellow warning sign and when checking driver status within S.O.C. it shows No Issues), I've tried with Debugging On AND Off, Shut Down Anti-Virus, etc etc.
Here's a Screenshot (lil faded since the Not Responding Cursor was circling at the time) of what's going on;
Any Assistance Greatly Appreciated, THX!
> Wow! Chill Nocturnal with the copy/paste same responses I've seen from u to other Noobs with what are to You, ridiculous and simply solved root issues being posted Asking Nicely for Help from those of us Less experienced? You're extremely quick to send angry mean replies Yet Never see a Solved response with your name.........hmmmmmm? As I said, I have a ROOTED G2x running HFS for 6 mos, and couldn't have done it without all the (other than you) folks who offer guidance here on xda! No Not Lazy...........i've searched and tried 3 Dozen ways to unsuccessfully root my ds7 over past 2 weeks, I'm Tired, Not lazy, Big difference! Tired of spending countless hours for weeks going in circles with Dead end threads with No Solves......using outdated 2011 old Pre-Honeycomb rooting du jour "try this it worked for me" replies. But hey, thanks so much for the kind reply and Help.....................that how you get off dude, lashing out out the idiot junior members?
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Confused by the Contradictory reply given?
Nocturnal_50 said:
IF YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF DOING THIS WITHOUT THE USE OF FASTBOOT YOU DO NOT DESERVE ROOT!!!!
I don't know how many people have f***ed up their devices by using "one-clicks" so don't do it.
don't be lazy, get off your ass and do it properly, download a custom recovery boot into fastboot, use the command "fastboot flash recovery <insert name & directory to your CWM/TWRP.img here>"
FFS USE THE F***ING SEARCH FEAUTRE AS THIS METHOD OF ROOTING DEVICES IS ALWAYS THE SAME WITH DEVICES WITH UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS
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You first Scream that if I cannot root Without Fastboot I don't deserve root!?? Then do a 180 telling me "download custom recov and boot into Fastboot and flash from command prompt........which btw I've already tried that as well. Like I said, I'm Tired now. Maybe you're right and I don't deserve root on my DS7? At least my everyday Android ph has Root.............1 outta 2 ain't bad huh?
BTW - Just so u know Nocturnal, I haven't once F***ed up or soft bricked my DS7 during my attempts to root it. SOC just keeps locking up at step 7. Soooo I'd more recently been looking for Unabridged Guidance for custom recovery with flashboot. Again, very minimal help with CURRENT threads I've seen on this with one common denominator they All say; must Already be Rooted????? WTF?
loanusum said:
You first Scream that if I cannot root Without Fastboot I don't deserve root!?? Then do a 180 telling me "download custom recov and boot into Fastboot and flash from command prompt........which btw I've already tried that as well. Like I said, I'm Tired now. Maybe you're right and I don't deserve root on my DS7? At least my everyday Android ph has Root.............1 outta 2 ain't bad huh?
BTW - Just so u know Nocturnal, I haven't once F***ed up or soft bricked my DS7 during my attempts to root it. SOC just keeps locking up at step 7. Soooo I'd more recently been looking for Unabridged Guidance for custom recovery with flashboot. Again, very minimal help with CURRENT threads I've seen on this with one common denominator they All say; must Already be Rooted????? WTF?
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Most if not all custom DS7 ROMs come rooted with Superuser7. Use Fastboot to install a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP. You can then install the Superuser7 zip file using that recovery.
Thanks for the tip.......
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Most if not all custom DS7 ROMs come rooted with Superuser7. Use Fastboot to install a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP. You can then install the Superuser7 zip file using that recovery.
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This is Very Helpful Info! I've been going round in circles for too many hours going down the rabbit holes that are some of these threads here on xda. You're the first person who's mentioned we can flash a Custom Rom to root? Instead of tearing into me like Nocturnal without any help just put-downs, you offer a short, concise and easy enough (or so it appears, I'll let ya know) answer, rather than the full pages of command prompts and a dozen steps to perform and having to pull drivers from other manufacturers etc. etc.
I've found that with these DS Tabs they can be very tempramental depending on froyo, GB, HC Not to mention if the PC is 64 or 32 bit creates it's own other set of unique challenges from all the threads I've read.......like I said, no one just offered help with a reply to simply flash a CUSTOM Mod recovery? I thought this entire time, I needed CWM first?? Others suggested flashing cwm via renaming to recovery.img, but if as I posted previously, that's a no go if the DS7 not already rooted - as my Streak when in recovery mode looks for Only for Update img or zip files and doesn't recognize the recovery.img file I did as told placing on root directory of device......
Flashing a Custom Rom (brain cramped on the fact they have SU files too, noob error! makes sense and I can't think of any reason it won't work..........thanks again
loanusum said:
This is Very Helpful Info! I've been going round in circles for too many hours going down the rabbit holes that are some of these threads here on xda. You're the first person who's mentioned we can flash a Custom Rom to root? Instead of tearing into me like Nocturnal without any help just put-downs, you offer a short, concise and easy enough (or so it appears, I'll let ya know) answer, rather than the full pages of command prompts and a dozen steps to perform and having to pull drivers from other manufacturers etc. etc.
I've found that with these DS Tabs they can be very tempramental depending on froyo, GB, HC Not to mention if the PC is 64 or 32 bit creates it's own other set of unique challenges from all the threads I've read.......like I said, no one just offered help with a reply to simply flash a CUSTOM Mod recovery? I thought this entire time, I needed CWM first?? Others suggested flashing cwm via renaming to recovery.img, but if as I posted previously, that's a no go if the DS7 not already rooted - as my Streak when in recovery mode looks for Only for Update img or zip files and doesn't recognize the recovery.img file I did as told placing on root directory of device......
Flashing a Custom Rom (brain cramped on the fact they have SU files too, noob error! makes sense and I can't think of any reason it won't work..........thanks again
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Well, in order to root with Superuser7 on a stock DS7, you'd have install CWM and from there install the Superuser7.zip file. That's what I did, although my signature still shows that, I've moved on to other things.
If you really jacked your DS7 up, you might consider going back to Froyo using this NVflash: http://d-h.st/iXc then using the "stock" recovery to install an HC from this page: http://d-h.st/users/TheManii/?fld_id=1676#files. At that point install CWM from this page: http://d-h.st/users/TheManii/?fld_id=3717#files. Now Superuser from this page: http://d-h.st/users/TheManii/?fld_id=5593#files.
Don't ask why there are so many different versions of files there either! I wonder that myself as it makes for confusion.
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Roadmap to Custom ROM​
1.Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com.
2.Flash a multi hboot recovery.
3.Root using the permanent root solution flashed via recovery, found here.
4.Flash S-OFF Hboot from unlimited.io.
5.Flash custom ROM with no problems.
To check your Unlock Token, Flash Recovery and S-OFF you should use the tool provided by me here .
This is the easiest guide to follow.. I'm also using this step to install custom Rom on my SXL before I got One X.. I'm also don't get it.. why people don't use unlimited.io trick.. it easier for me.
BTW.. it good to see a new dev for sxl.. it a good device.. but lack of developer.. wish you good luck with your project.
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Agreed.
I've flashed on a lot of devices and the SXL guides are all a bit random.
The info is out there but sometimes you need to dig a lot to find it.
And a lot are out of date.
Hope this becomes the go-to guide for everyone and hope to see some dev work happening.
I think its time to move on for me..... getting flash withdrawal.
Prof Peach said:
Agreed.
I've flashed on a lot of devices and the SXL guides are all a bit random.
The info is out there but sometimes you need to dig a lot to find it.
And a lot are out of date.
Hope this becomes the go-to guide for everyone and hope to see some dev work happening.
I think its time to move on for me..... getting flash withdrawal.
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I'm just getting familiar with the forum and the device (almost 4 days since i bought it).
Soon enough if i have time (back2school), i will try to work on CM9 or CM10, depends, CM9 seems the obvious road to take as some work was previosly made by [vertigo], and some fixes are needed (he said that are kernel related), so i think i will try to fix his CM9 rather than port it again form scratch.
As for CM10, i think the best road to take is to compile AOSP JB from source and edit the kernel so it likes the jelly flavour.
If everything works as intedend, in a couple of months we should see both CM9 and JB/CM10 up and going.
(The worst thing is that i will surely need help, i think i can find around the forum, some testers already enrolled to the call to arms thread, so maybe we can build up a team., i really like this device )
I will say that some of the guides are if you were on a GB rom, and then installing a custom rom wasn't so easy, but since the upgrade to ICS it has become a lot easier, although I had noticed that it is easier to softbrick the phone if you don't flash the chinese boot.img and then chinese rom. Also s-off isn't essential for flashing custom roms...
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I will say that some of the guides are if you were on a GB rom, and then installing a custom rom wasn't so easy, but since the upgrade to ICS it has become a lot easier, although I had noticed that it is easier to softbrick the phone if you don't flash the chinese boot.img and then chinese rom. Also s-off isn't essential for flashing custom roms...
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Well, i'm fairly new to this device, but from what i've learned, the chinsese rom is optional if you have s-off, as s-off let's you to access all the partitions, system and other things you need.
Maybe i'm wrong, that's why i've started this thread, i think this is easier, and softbricking a phone with Android seems almost impossible to me...as i said, to me
Yeah I know the chinese rom is optional, but as I said from my point of view, once I'd flashed the chinese rom, I didn't manage to softbrick the phone where as before when I was trying various ports I managed to softbrick it a few times. Just my opinion and what I'd noticed with my device...
As for s-off mine (although broken) is still s-on and I've never felt the need to make it s-off. Again just my opinion
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Yeah I know the chinese rom is optional, but as I said from my point of view, once I'd flashed the chinese rom, I didn't manage to softbrick the phone where as before when I was trying various ports I managed to softbrick it a few times. Just my opinion and what I'd noticed with my device...
As for s-off mine (although broken) is still s-on and I've never felt the need to make it s-off. Again just my opinion
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Well, i know what youre pointing at, i was just wandering when i first read te forum, why on earth should i install a Chinsese ROM when i will change it anyways for a new ROM...so the boot.img is a different one in the custom one, and other things.
I'm not so expeirenced with S-Off/On, as this is my first HTC phone i have and changed ROM (not too many HTC's in my area), but from what i've read online, S-Off is the best road to take to ensure you don't softbrick your phone, as you have the real "Full Control" over the Device and the ROM parts you can flash, like you, this is my opinion, a begginers opinion
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Hi Lexmazter,
Thanks for making this guide, it is easy to follow. But I'm stuck at a small point and face below response; -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Please let me know where did I do wrong? Thanks.
My steps were: -
factory reset
root via DooMLoRD_v4_ROOT
titanium backup worked and restore all apps and settings
unclocked the bootloader from htcdev.
all data gone, no more, like factory reset again
superuser app still exist, didn't root again
booted and rooted as you said
connect PC to phone via USB in charge mode only.
run your tool
doing select 5 Flash HBOOT S-OFF Unprotected (via adb) - choose hg hi both failed - but face above message 3 repeat lines.
reboot to bootloader FASTBOOT, >>>>>USB<<<<< appear
UNLOCK at top also appear
then select 4 Flash Recovery. (via fastboot) - then choose rei reg both failed - but face above message. 1 line.
Hope can teach me, thank you very much in advance.
And I'm sure I didn't do something right before hand.
cx5 said:
Hi Lexmazter,
Thanks for making this guide, it is easy to follow. But I'm stuck at a small point and face below response; -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Please let me know where did I do wrong? Thanks.
My steps were: -
factory reset
root via DooMLoRD_v4_ROOT
titanium backup worked and restore all apps and settings
unclocked the bootloader from htcdev.
all data gone, no more, like factory reset again
superuser app still exist, didn't root again
booted and rooted as you said
connect PC to phone via USB in charge mode only.
run your tool
doing select 5 Flash HBOOT S-OFF Unprotected (via adb) - choose hg hi both failed - but face above message 3 repeat lines.
reboot to bootloader FASTBOOT, >>>>>USB<<<<< appear
UNLOCK at top also appear
then select 4 Flash Recovery. (via fastboot) - then choose rei reg both failed - but face above message. 1 line.
Hope can teach me, thank you very much in advance.
And I'm sure I didn't do something right before hand.
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Extract the contents of the archive in C:/ and try again, it is most likely because you are running from a folder that has spaces (" ").
Thanks for replying so quickly, some questions before sleep tonight.
I moved the folder to c:\xmtool and run as administrator as usual. But without connecting the phone, and select 5 flash H boot. The 3 repeat message appear still. Hahah, may be I want to test in theory.
Anyway, reading more more other post and try again this weekend.
Thanks !!!! many of your post and reply has been insightful.
Hello,
I have been following a thread in the Developer section, I'm unable to post there.
I could not find an answer?
I want to find out if there will be an issue using the NEXUS 7 TOOLKIT AUTO UPDATE V4.3.4 (SkipSoft.net)
I already have the Android SDK installed, a long story whilst playing about with a cheap Chinese Tablet :crying:
I realised the error of my ways and now have a nice Nexus 7 (4.2.2)
*** Anybody help please?, seeing that I can't post in the appropriate thread ***
Thanks
Dave
Nexus 7 toolkit auto update v4.3.4
NinjaMogglet said:
Hello,
I have been following a thread in the Developer section, I'm unable to post there.
I could not find an answer?
I want to find out if there will be an issue using the NEXUS 7 TOOLKIT AUTO UPDATE V4.3.4 (SkipSoft.net)
I already have the Android SDK installed, a long story whilst playing about with a cheap Chinese Tablet :crying:
I realised the error of my ways and now have a nice Nexus 7 (4.2.2)
*** Anybody help please?, seeing that I can't post in the appropriate thread ***
Thanks
Dave
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Can anybody help please?,
No problems should arise. Though I don't quite understand your question. Is this right: You want to update/install a toolkit, but you have the Android SDK installed? If that's what you are asking then no, there will be no problems.
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Logan_M said:
No problems should arise. Though I don't quite understand your question. Is this right: You want to update/install a toolkit, but you have the Android SDK installed? If that's what you are asking then no, there will be no problems.
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Hi,
Sorry this is quite new to me.
Yes, I had installed the official Android SDK whilst playing/experimenting with a cheap tablet.
Now I have a Nexus 7, and it is recognised by my WinXP PC alraedy.
I want to unlock & root and found the thread in the developers section, but I'm unable to post there.
I wanted to ensure that I would not encounter problems/conflicts if I installed and used the Nexus 7 toolkit auto update v4.3.4 Tool on the same PC.
Hope this makes sense?
Thanks
NinjaMogglet said:
Hi,
Sorry this is quite new to me.
Yes, I had installed the official Android SDK whilst playing/experimenting with a cheap tablet.
Now I have a Nexus 7, and it is recognised by my WinXP PC alraedy.
I want to unlock & root and found the thread in the developers section, but I'm unable to post there.
I wanted to ensure that I would not encounter problems/conflicts if I installed and used the Nexus 7 toolkit auto update v4.3.4 Tool on the same PC.
Hope this makes sense?
Thanks
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You already have the SDK, that means you don't need a toolkit....
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
Pirateghost said:
You already have the SDK, that means you don't need a toolkit....
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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Unfortunately having the SDK does not mean I can actually use it
I got in over my head, hence trying to learn/read about it it on XDA
I found the thread that appeared to offer what I want,
a toolkit that I should be able to use to unlock/root with.
Thanks
But of you have the SDK and the drivers installed you don't need toolkit
Its like 3 commands
you dont have to know how to use the entire SDK, all you need to do is be able to follow directions. every nexus is rooted the exact same way. the only thing the toolkit does is hide the commands. you could take the few minutes to learn these commands
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery nameofrecoveryfile.img
reboot to recovery
adb push SuperSU.zip /sdcard/ (or /data/media, whatever)
flash supersu.zip with your custom recovery....
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
Pirateghost said:
You already have the SDK, that means you don't need a toolkit....
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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Pirateghost said:
But of you have the SDK and the drivers installed you don't need toolkit
Its like 3 commands
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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Thanks...
It was the commands I had problems with on my last attempts
I got confused over ADB mode, Fastboot mode ??
I was not sure if they are device specific, given the Toolkits appear to be ??
I just don't want to brick my Nexus
Hence the thought of getting something(Toolkit) that I can just select options, hides the complexity.
Also
The toolkit looked like I could Backup all my Apps/Data, then unlock/root, and then do a Restore.
Thanks
NinjaMogglet said:
Thanks...
It was the commands I had problems with on my last attempts
I got confused over ADB mode, Fastboot mode ??
I was not sure if they are device specific, given the Toolkits appear to be ??
I just don't want to brick my Nexus
Hence the thought of getting something(Toolkit) that I can just select options, hides the complexity.
Also
The toolkit looked like I could Backup all my Apps/Data, then unlock/root, and then do a Restore.
Thanks
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there are many guides and tutorials on all of these points.
here's the problem with toolkits:
THEY HIDE EVERYTHING FROM YOU
sure, more than likely you will be quite successful in merely rooting and unlocking your device with one....
then there is a pretty high certainty that you will begin experimenting with mods/roms/kernels/etc
at some point during your experimentation you will come across a 'soft-brick' or a bootloop, where all you see is either the google screen or the boot animation looping over and over. how do you get out of that situation? the toolkit didnt show you how, you plug in your trusty toolkit, only to find it doesnt see the device.... PANIC MODE ON!!....great. now you are going to come to XDA and make a damn thread about how you just 'bricked' your device and the world is ending....then you get told how to fix it albeit with some frustrations and complications....the right way, with fastboot and adb
or
you could just learn the damn thing and understand what it is you are doing to your device....then there would never be a situation you could not get out of using fastboot and adb.....
it really isnt complicated, and people around here are just Friggin lazy...its ridiculous.
XDA used to mean something, now its just a pisspot of people wanting their devices to be cool, without wanting to learn anything.
All Understould
Pirateghost said:
there are many guides and tutorials on all of these points.
here's the problem with toolkits:
THEY HIDE EVERYTHING FROM YOU
sure, more than likely you will be quite successful in merely rooting and unlocking your device with one....
then there is a pretty high certainty that you will begin experimenting with mods/roms/kernels/etc
at some point during your experimentation you will come across a 'soft-brick' or a bootloop, where all you see is either the google screen or the boot animation looping over and over. how do you get out of that situation? the toolkit didnt show you how, you plug in your trusty toolkit, only to find it doesnt see the device.... PANIC MODE ON!!....great. now you are going to come to XDA and make a damn thread about how you just 'bricked' your device and the world is ending....then you get told how to fix it albeit with some frustrations and complications....the right way, with fastboot and adb
or
you could just learn the damn thing and understand what it is you are doing to your device....then there would never be a situation you could not get out of using fastboot and adb.....
it really isnt complicated, and people around here are just Friggin lazy...its ridiculous.
XDA used to mean something, now its just a pisspot of people wanting their devices to be cool, without wanting to learn anything.
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Hi,
All understould, and I couldnt agree more. The challenge, with many things now(on the Web) is finding the right information.
There are oodles, and oodles of sites with rooting information, tips and guides... etc..
I've probably watched a dozen or more "Youtube" vid's on the same subject, and they all have subtle differences..!!
I will look for "Manual" Unlocking and Rooting info for the Nexus.. and see what I find
Thanks...
NinjaMogglet said:
Hi,
All understould, and I couldnt agree more. The challenge, with many things now(on the Web) is finding the right information.
There are oodles, and oodles of sites with rooting information, tips and guides... etc..
I've probably watched a dozen or more "Youtube" vid's on the same subject, and they all have subtle differences..!!
I will look for "Manual" Unlocking and Rooting info for the Nexus.. and see what I find
Thanks...
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not sure why you need to go anywhere other than right here on XDA....
theres a freakin sticky for it even...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2150661
NinjaMogglet said:
Hi,
All understould, and I couldnt agree more. The challenge, with many things now(on the Web) is finding the right information.
There are oodles, and oodles of sites with rooting information, tips and guides... etc..
I've probably watched a dozen or more "Youtube" vid's on the same subject, and they all have subtle differences..!!
I will look for "Manual" Unlocking and Rooting info for the Nexus.. and see what I find
Thanks...
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NinjaMogglet has given you all the information needed!
Just go grab the required files and chuck them in your platform-tools directory, run a command prompt and navigate to the directory and then run the said commands.
Still not clear??
smt8544 said:
NinjaMogglet has given you all the information needed!
Just go grab the required files and chuck them in your platform-tools directory, run a command prompt and navigate to the directory and then run the said commands.
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I thank everybody for the comments...
I have since found other "Manual" methods, none of them are consistent
> Some use ADB commands to do certain things?
> There are references to making the "Recovery Stick", with some mnt, mv commands in ADB/FASTBOOT, it's not clear?
> There is reference to being in the right mode USB Debug Mode, PTP & MTP, but which?
> Install a Busy Box?
> and and ...
Whilst it maybe second nature to some of you folks, to me(others?) it a Black Art at the moment
I will do it, I just don't want to get part way in, and have a problem.
Thanks
NinjaMogglet said:
I thank everybody for the comments...
I have since found other "Manual" methods, none of them are consistent
> Some use ADB commands to do certain things?
> There are references to making the "Recovery Stick", with some mnt, mv commands in ADB/FASTBOOT, it's not clear?
> There is reference to being in the right mode USB Debug Mode, PTP & MTP, but which?
> Install a Busy Box?
> and and ...
Whilst it maybe second nature to some of you folks, to me(others?) it a Black Art at the moment
I will do it, I just don't want to get part way in, and have a problem.
Thanks
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my previous post literally linked you to the ONLY thing you need....why did you ignore it?
its simple:
ADB can be used while in Custom Recovery or while booted into Android with USB debugging enabled.
Fastboot is used ONLY in fastboot mode
settings within the Android OS dont mean a damn thing in recovery or fastboot....which means it doesnt matter what USB mode you are in, or if debugging is enabled, as long as you are doing things from recovery or fastboot
every nexus device roots and unlocks in the same exact manner. the only difference would be that you need to use a recovery made SPECIFICALLY for that device...thats it
FOLLOW THE GUIDE THAT I ALREADY LINKED YOU TO....it tells you everything you need to do
Thanks
Pirateghost said:
my previous post literally linked you to the ONLY thing you need....why did you ignore it?
its simple:
ADB can be used while in Custom Recovery or while booted into Android with USB debugging enabled.
Fastboot is used ONLY in fastboot mode
settings within the Android OS dont mean a damn thing in recovery or fastboot....which means it doesnt matter what USB mode you are in, or if debugging is enabled, as long as you are doing things from recovery or fastboot
every nexus device roots and unlocks in the same exact manner. the only difference would be that you need to use a recovery made SPECIFICALLY for that device...thats it
FOLLOW THE GUIDE THAT I ALREADY LINKED YOU TO....it tells you everything you need to do
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Thanks...
I did not ignore your link, I read all the pages.
Especially the one's that pointed out the ommisions, like un-lock first, and some of the key presses.
I will get back to this when I'm bright eyed, not 01:25 in the morning.... Just in case.
Thanks again
I have a Moto X, and used one of the first root methods that came out with the phone (I don't remember what it's called, but it didn't require any fancy cmd window to type commands in or many different executables... I think I just loaded an apk onto the phone and ran it). Unfortunately, today, I accidentally installed an OTA. Now, my phone is stuck in a boot loop and re-boots every 30 seconds or so. How can I get out of this??
I've (sadly) done this once before and recovered from it by quickly hopping to some directory using Root Explorer and deleting the OTA update file. I've spent a couple hours trying to find this thread or information, but with no luck. It's very similar to this post: http://forums.androidcentral.com/thunderbolt-rooting-roms-hacks/174996-19-ota-push-bootloop-fix.html
I've also tried booting into recovery, but I've learned this morning that I don't have a recovery program on my phone. When I try to launch recovery, it just boots the phone and the bootloop starts all over again.
Thank you for help any of you can offer!!
Can you get into the stock recovery? You know the dead Andy on his back. If so go in to stock recovery and try a wipe. Then if it boots up look and see if your android version changed or not to see if the phone updated.
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Travisdroidx2 said:
Can you get into the stock recovery? You know the dead Andy on his back. If so go in to stock recovery and try a wipe. Then if it boots up look and see if your android version changed or not to see if the phone updated.
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I was able to solve it! Here is what I did:
Install the app, "Root Explorer", if you don't have it already. You may have to try many, many times to get this to install.
Go to the directory, "/cache". This folder is at the very top of the phone's file structure, along with "sdcard", "system", "firmware", and others.
In this "cache" folder is a zip file called, "Blur_Version.##.##.##.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.zip". There are also two other folders, "lost+found" and "recovery".
Delete or rename the file. At around the time the phone wants to reboot, it will be looking for this file and find that it no longer exists because you have deleted or renamed it, and it will give you an error message. Acknowledge the error message, and the phone should be back to normal.
The original information comes from XDA user "motomesh", and the thread I found this information is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...te-problem-t2467614/post46179190#post46179190
Phone: Moto X
Android: 4.2.2
Carrier: AT&T
System Version: 139.9.51
You should spend $25 for the Sunshine bootloader unlock since you're still on 4.2.2.
Also, good job searching. It's rare to see someone find an answer to their question which has been asked many many many many times.
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You should spend $25 for the Sunshine bootloader unlock since you're still on 4.2.2.
Also, good job searching. It's rare to see someone find an answer to their question which has been asked many many many many times.
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Thanks! I'll check out Sunshine bootloader and see what that's about.
I appreciate your comment on finding my own solution. I do always try to put in the research before even thinking about posting my question. The XDA-Developers community has been a great wealth of information, and I'm quite thankful to everyone involved. It's just that on that particular day, I wasn't planning on tinkering with my phone, and I had such a schedule packed day with so many things to get done, so I was freaking out a little, because I needed a phone and had no backup. I had already spend an hour searching without luck, so I was hoping someone would take pity and not mind answering this popular question. I recognize my ask is a pretty big pet peeve; hopefully the community will forgive me on this one.
nhizzat said:
You should spend $25 for the Sunshine bootloader unlock since you're still on 4.2.2.
Also, good job searching. It's rare to see someone find an answer to their question which has been asked many many many many times.
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And he even posted what phone and version and everything.
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!
Thanks for the solution! but...
I did the same thing that you commented here. Thanks for the solution!
However, I've been wondering...
Now that you know where the .zip file with the OTA is located....
Can't you just flash it with TWRP from there?
Jorfapigo said:
I did the same thing that you commented here. Thanks for the solution!
However, I've been wondering...
Now that you know where the .zip file with the OTA is located....
Can't you just flash it with TWRP from there?
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You can try, but they always have failed for me. The only way to install an OTA.ZIP has been with STock recovery.
That being said, I haven't tried CWM or Philz recoveries.
I have a nexus 6. The sound quality is horrible with headphones and the speakers. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted the nexus 6. A lot of the custom roms I have tried freeze during installation and soft brick the phone. The only rom that works is the stock rom.
alucke
That's a rather non-descript post. Who's your carrier, what Rom's are you talking about, any custom kernels, did you perform a wipe before installing? As far as the Audio goes, I've got no complaints from the speakers nor using headphones (both hardwired and BT headphones). You do realize that the first boot after installing a fresh Rom can take several minutes, some as long as 8 minutes while everything is set in place. More info so that we can help, please.
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I have a nexus 6. The sound quality is horrible with headphones and the speakers. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted the nexus 6. A lot of the custom roms I have tried freeze during installation and soft brick the phone. The only rom that works is the stock rom.
alucke
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lol your doing something wrong.
i have flashed most of the available roms, in total hundreds of times, never failed to boot, not even once.
i know i say this often, but ill say it again(even if im wrong this time).. i bet you used used a toolkit to root your device. too bad that you learn absolutely nothing from a toolkit. what you should do is put your phone down, and not touch it until you do some serious research into your device. how you do things properly, what can you flash, etc. these are things that you have to do before you ever root your device.
Is this a rant or are you asking for help? This is a development forum, so not really the place to rant. If you want help, please ask specific questions whilst supplying relevant information
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i know i say this often, but ill say it again(even if im wrong this time).. i bet you used used a toolkit to root your device. too bad that you learn absolutely nothing from a toolkit. what you should do is put your phone down, and not touch it until you do some serious research into your device. how you do things properly, what can you flash, etc. these are things that you have to do before you ever root your device.
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You are correct. Where do I go for help and advice upon this phone OS? I am willing to learn but know of no courses or clubs to join. I am taking lessons online at the Google developers site. This is a start but slow go. As an update, my soft bricked Nexus6 is back in order. I some how managed to use the Root Tool Kit and "pushed" the factory to the phone. I assume this restored my ABD and debug thereby establishing USB connection between PC and phone. I then wiped Cache, system and Dvalick. and loaded Cyanogen Mod 12.1 and Gapps. For a while there I lost debug and was never able to open the phone and enable it.
Still,I would like to know the alternate way such as sideload ABD and commands, Fastboot, Bootloader, etc.. Thank you.
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i know i say this often, but ill say it again(even if im wrong this time).. i bet you used used a toolkit to root your device. too bad that you learn absolutely nothing from a toolkit. what you should do is put your phone down, and not touch it until you do some serious research into your device. how you do things properly, what can you flash, etc. these are things that you have to do before you ever root your device.
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You are correct. Where do I go for help and advice upon this Android phone OS? I am willing to learn but know of no courses or clubs to join. I am taking lessons online by self at the Google developers site. This is a start but slow go. As an update, my soft bricked Nexus 6 is back in order. I some how managed to use the Root Tool Kit v2.0.4 and "pushed" the factory, I downloaded from Google, to the phone. I assume this restored my ABD allowing debug thereby establishing USB connection between PC and Nexus 6, I then wiped Cache, system and Dvalick. and loaded Cyanogen Mod 12.1 and Gapps. For a while there I lost debug and was never able to open the Nexus 6 bootloader or Fastboot.
Still,I would like to know the alternate way such as sideload ABD and commands, Fastboot, Bootloader, etc.. Thank you.
This is the most idiotic post I've seen here all day. Seriously sell your nexus 6 and go buy a different phone if you don't like the phone or face the fact that you either don't know how to use a nexus device or you have a defective phone. But I'm almost entirely convinced this is 100% user error
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ray6279 said:
You are correct. Where do I go for help and advice upon this phone OS? I am willing to learn but know of no courses or clubs to join. I am taking lessons online at the Google developers site. This is a start but slow go. As an update, my soft bricked Nexus6 is back in order. I some how managed to use the Root Tool Kit and "pushed" the factory to the phone. I assume this restored my ABD and debug thereby establishing USB connection between PC and phone. I then wiped Cache, system and Dvalick. and loaded Cyanogen Mod 12.1 and Gapps. For a while there I lost debug and was never able to open the phone and enable it.
Still,I would like to know the alternate way such as sideload ABD and commands, Fastboot, Bootloader, etc.. Thank you.
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here is a good place to start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/noob-read-adb-fastboot-how-help-t3006500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
good luck!
Android documentation is kinda lacking
Its not terrible... Its just not entirely coherent, well organized or complete. A lot of poking around and learn by doing, patching together threads that document how things work ect...
Here is my suggestion:
Follow the second link posted by simms22 above, this one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/noob-read-adb-fastboot-how-help-t3006500
Go here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en
And download the latest image for your phone (shamu, the images at the bottom of the list are most recent. All carriers currently use same build, unless your on tmobile or Fi)
Use some kind of unzipping program (not sure if winrar can do .tgz, if not just google "Windows .tgz") to decompress the image you download. This will have a few .img files in it and a .zip Unzip the .zip for the rest of the partition images for the phone.
With these you can use fastboot to re-format partition to stock.
Here is an older guide, while devices may vary a little... and things have changed since 2011, were still mostly talking about system, boot, recovery, data....
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...plained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
I would say read through the above guides thoroughly, then manually update your phone to stock.
You will notice the stock flash-all script will
Code:
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-shamu-moto-apq8084-71.10.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
ping -n 5 127.0.0.1 >nul
fastboot flash radio radio-shamu-d4.0-9625-02.101.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
ping -n 5 127.0.0.1 >nul
fastboot -w update image-shamu-lmy48m.zip
You probably don't want to do all this... You will notice the last command I showed is fastboot -w update image-shamu-lmy48m.zip (assuming you downloaded the lmy48m image)
We already unzipped this, so rather then flash it in bulk (flashing userdata.img will wipe device) lets flash everything but leave data in place.
So get fastboot working, go to bootloader, and as the script does
With fastboot:
Flash the bootloader
then use fastboot to reboot, to the bootloader
flash the radio
then use fastboot to reboot to the bootloader
then fasboot flash system, recovery, boot and cache images, skipping userdata to avoid wiping the sd card.
At this point reboot. It may take a while for the first boot as android sets itself up and optimizing applications. If things appear to be hung give it 10 minutes before forcing a reboot checking your images and trying again. Pay attention to the output of the commands and make sure there are no errors. If there are read them, and google them.
Now you should be able to boot, and you will be fully stock. This is what it takes to recover from almost any situation. Often you can just flash system to update. Boot will overwrite your kernel, so it is often skipped when custom kernels are used... particularly when not encrypted.
Now find the website for twrp and find the image for your device, then go back to bootloader mode and flash recovery, after flashing reboot directly to recovery.
Also find chainfire's website with the recovery flashable supersu (should be a .zip)
Make sure the supersu install zip is on your phone, and the recovery is on your computer.
Reboot to bootloader and fastboot flash twrp to your recovery partition, then immediately reboot to recovery mode to finish the install.
In recovery make a backup of your working stock system.
After that install supersu
Reboot, and you should be stock and rooted with a backup of your completely stock system.
From here if your want to install a rom reboot to recovery, wipe caches, system and data. On future upgrades backup first, and try only wiping system and caches, then flash the new version of the rom and you wont have to set anything back up. You will have to reinstall xposed if your use it, as well as supersu if your rom does not include it for some reason.
If you do all that, read those guides to the point where you understand each step, and read the thread or at least the last hand full of pages of any rom or utility that you use... Things should work pretty good.
It so easy for some to assume user error, the phone might be a defective I know hate the layout of mine, and out of 13 android phones currently this d*m thing is the only one that freezes on me and will not show up in Linux (two versions) or windows 7 and it still stock. I have hated the phone from day two and tried very hard to use it stock for as long i could. I finally said screw it and went back to my old lg g flex till just died.. I wish i could sell this...but I am stuck trying to make it work. still cant even make it show up in any os and that makes it a bit hard to do anything (and yes my USB ports and drivers and cables are fine i have checked)
And likewise to this post , useless as well
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nevermind
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Was going to post, and had this thought also....
btw JJD loves his N6 and his speakers Rock!
#nuffsaid
Nexus 6 ftw!
disturb1 said:
It so easy for some to assume user error, the phone might be a defective I know hate the layout of mine, and out of 13 android phones currently this d*m thing is the only one that freezes on me and will not show up in Linux (two versions) or windows 7 and it still stock. I have hated the phone from day two and tried very hard to use it stock for as long i could. I finally said screw it and went back to my old lg g flex till just died.. I wish i could sell this...but I am stuck trying to make it work. still cant even make it show up in any os and that makes it a bit hard to do anything (and yes my USB ports and drivers and cables are fine i have checked)
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It is user error.
SOME hardware is bad... But people like to view their phones as these temperamental beasts that "need to settle" and "all have their own intricacies"
Its a computer. Is this the way we look at laptops?
Two, or two hundred version of linux... Doesn't really matter because linux is a kernel and MTP implementation is handled separately. Not Nexus' fault that you didn't configure linux correctly, or that you expected someone else to do it for you for free, and they didn't do it either.
What file manager do you use, and did you have gvfs-mtp or kio-mtp installed?
What utilities were you using to mount the mtp drive?
These instructions are for arch linux, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP#simple-mtpfs (I use simple mtpfs), adapt them to your distro, find your distros documentation.
But then you don't really need it to show up in the OS? Does fastboot recognize it? Have you installed udev rules for it?
ok, thanks for all the input. I will give the nexus 6 a try again, root it. Can anyone point me to a custom rom that is somewhat close to stock?
I like Pure Nexus
scryan said:
It is user error.
SOME hardware is bad... But people like to view their phones as these temperamental beasts that "need to settle" and "all have their own intricacies"
Its a computer. Is this the way we look at laptops?
Two, or two hundred version of linux... Doesn't really matter because linux is a kernel and MTP implementation is handled separately. Not Nexus' fault that you didn't configure linux correctly, or that you expected someone else to do it for you for free, and they didn't do it
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Not sure if I just have issues with lollipop or the hardware and lollipop
I have it rooted now and also still hate it I don't have the sound issues that some have but freezing was a constant with nexus T-Mobile stock ROM or maybe I have a lucky lemon ether way
I don't blame others or look to others to do my rooting rom installation or themes nor do I assume that it the phone every time all I am saying is we need to stop blaming every confused user as noob and assume people are not trying to learn
I been here 3 years but I lurk and learn and move on but I constantly see issues of flaming it is sad ...I see your reply and that fact that you offered help is what I like to see what I would offer if I knew an answer..
Honestly I am just not a fan of the phone but I made my bed and in it I must... hack at it till I am happy...
I want to root my Nexus 6 running stock android 6.0.0 but not sure exactly how to do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
dbzturtle said:
I want to root my Nexus 6 running stock android 6.0.0 but not sure exactly how to do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Chainfire just released a new root for mm, http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
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blueyes said:
Chainfire just released a new root for mm, http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
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It says that it's experimental and will likely have bugs. is there a stable way to root? If not I don't mind waiting until there is.
dbzturtle said:
It says that it's experimental and will likely have bugs. is there a stable way to root? If not I don't mind waiting until there is.
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Fastboot flash twrp, and then flash 2.52superuser.sip in recovery. Look up wugfresh Nexus root toolkit, it'll explain the process.
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I rooted my N6 on Android 6.0 with 2.52 weeks ago and it's absolutely fine - I've seen no problems at all. The "experimental" mention is a disclaimer to cover Chainfire in case you have problems - a very sensible warning in my opinion, but in this case you can probably ignore it.
And I agree with blueyes - Nexus Root Toolkit is pretty much idiot-proof as long as you read the instructions and in particular choose the correct ROM.
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I rooted my N6 on Android 6.0 with 2.52 weeks ago and it's absolutely fine - I've seen no problems at all. The "experimental" mention is a disclaimer to cover Chainfire in case you have problems - a very sensible warning in my opinion, but in this case you can probably ignore it.
And I agree with blueyes - Nexus Root Toolkit is pretty much idiot-proof as long as you read the instructions and in particular choose the correct ROM.
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The problem with using toolkits when they are "idiot-proof" is that if you go into the process as an idiot, you leave the process still an idiot, so if something goes wrong with the device at a later date, the user has not got the skills to fix it, which becomes a problem on these forums as rather than telling someone how to fix it, we also have to teach the skills that should already have been learned.
Toolkits are great if you know what they're doing but if you dont, use fastboot the first time to get an understanding of it and also to ensure you know it is working on your computer correctly. It's easier to troubleshoot PC configurations when the device is fully working rather than waiting until it is "broken"
"you leave the process still an idiot"
I'll take that in the spirit I think you meant it...
Sure, point taken, but the problem with telling someone to start learning to use tools they don't understand is that this forum ends up with a flood of "I've bricked my device" posts. I agree that the manual way is useful for resolving problems, and I don't use NRT for everything - I'd say maybe 50% of the time for installing a brand new factory ROM, and the rest of the time using ADB/Fastboot for stuff I (think I) understand.
I just think that if someone has taken the time and trouble to give me the commands typed perfectly in the correct order and proven to work, why would I risk typing them in maybe in the wrong order or accidentally installing an image into the wrong partition? My own stupid fault, sure, but why take the long way round instead of the simple straight proven path?
Just sayin'...
dahawthorne said:
"you leave the process still an idiot"
I'll take that in the spirit I think you meant it...
Sure, point taken, but the problem with telling someone to start learning to use tools they don't understand is that this forum ends up with a flood of "I've bricked my device" posts. I agree that the manual way is useful for resolving problems, and I don't use NRT for everything - I'd say maybe 50% of the time for installing a brand new factory ROM, and the rest of the time using ADB/Fastboot for stuff I (think I) understand.
I just think that if someone has taken the time and trouble to give me the commands typed perfectly in the correct order and proven to work, why would I risk typing them in maybe in the wrong order or accidentally installing an image into the wrong partition? My own stupid fault, sure, but why take the long way round instead of the simple straight proven path?
Just sayin'...
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It's not really the long way round. Once everything is installed, its as quick if not quicker. And as I said, you need all this installed for ongoing maintenance anyway so may as well do this whilst your device is working.
You can't brick your device by flashing to the wrong partition so there are no floods of posts from people doing things manually at all. .if you flash to the wrong partition,.just flash to the right partition. It's not rocket science either. If you flash a radio, flash it to the radio partition. If you flash system, flash it to the system partition. ...and if you type something wrong, it won't do anything at all.
Fastboot is well documented (by me and others) in the general forum. People should feel free to nude toolkits once they have learned it, but noobs should definitely learn it and use it the first time for the reasons I have already mentioned.
To root is so simple.
1. In fastboot, use
"fastboot oem unlock"
2. In fastboot, flash a custom twrp recovery image
"fastboot flash recovery twrp.img "
3. If marshamallow, flash a custom boot.img to allow it to be rooted
"fastboot flash boot boot.img"
4. Copy SuperSU to sdcard
5. Flash SuperSU zip from recovery
Once these steps have been carried out, you've used fastboot, know how it works and also have proof your computer has working fastboot. That ticks essential boxes.that every root user needs to have ticked. Once they're ticked, use toolkits to your hearts desire.
The worst thing about noobs using toolkits is when we need them to use fastboot when helping with their issues, they don't know what it is and we have to teach them that. We also need to troubleshoot setting it up which can be extremely hard if their device is bricked or in a state of needing repair. 10 minutes learning now can help prevent hours of wasting our time later. Surely it's only being courteous to learn these things ?
Where can I find a custom boot image ? I'm asking because I'm rooted but every time I try to go into recovery it ask me for a password
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Where can I find a custom boot image ? I'm asking because I'm rooted but every time I try to go into recovery it ask me for a password
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If you're encrypted, recovery will always ask you for a password. If you've set a password in android, you use that..if you have not set a password in android, you use the default twrp password.
I am an Android Noob! My first Android devices were the Nexus Player and the Nexus 6. (I came from iPhones and Apple TV) It did not take me long at all to learn how to use fastboot and adb. I manually flashed my Nexus 6 and Nexus Player to 6.0 before the OTAs were rolling out no problem. I have root on both of my devices.
My point is, if I can learn how to do this in a matter of a day (I have not had my Nexus 6 a full month yet) You can learn how to do it as well. There are tons of guides out there on how to do all of this. Google is your friend. You will feel awesome and have a sense of accomplishment if you take the time to learn this stuff. It is easy to learn, not hard at all! I come from a pretty extensive tech background so I was a step ahead, but anyone can do / learn this stuff.
There are toolkits that can do this stuff for you pretty much. I have not downloaded or used one myself. I don't trust someone else's code with my device. That's just me though. I like to feel in control when I flash stuff.
@danarama
"Surely it's only being courteous to learn these things ?"
I know that it's all too easy to be taken wrong when writing a post, so I'll say up front that I'm serious - thanks for posting those steps. I've watched the NRT run through its steps a number of times and it clearly does a lot more than this, which is why i'm glad that it's doing the typing for me
I have used your steps when flashing various things, I've just never used them for a ROM upgrade - except once when I was trying to recover a broken-radio N5 and was installing Chroma.
One value at least of the NRT for noobs is its help in setting up your PC's drivers - that alone is a good reason to look at it.
Just for interest, what would happen if I flashed recovery into the radio partition? Or the boot partition?
Seriously, thanks for these steps - I appreciate it.
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@danarama
"Surely it's only being courteous to learn these things ?"
I know that it's all too easy to be taken wrong when writing a post, so I'll say up front that I'm serious - thanks for posting those steps. I've watched the NRT run through its steps a number of times and it clearly does a lot more than this, which is why i'm glad that it's doing the typing for me
I have used your steps when flashing various things, I've just never used them for a ROM upgrade - except once when I was trying to recover a broken-radio N5 and was installing Chroma.
One value at least of the NRT for noobs is its help in setting up your PC's drivers - that alone is a good reason to look at it.
Just for interest, what would happen if I flashed recovery into the radio partition? Or the boot partition?
Seriously, thanks for these steps - I appreciate it.
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Radio may boot but won't connect to a network.
Boot is the kernel so it won't boot without it (bootloop)
Both can be fixed by flashing the correct image to the correct partition.
The images in the factory image are appropriately labelled too, so it would be difficult to flash to the wrong partition without realizing it was wrong.. Eg
"fastboot flash radio boot.img" looks wrong when you have radio.img too.
Thanks, danarama. I suppose that's the point I was trying to make at the top - that if you're a bit of a thicko then you could flash to the wrong partition, which a predefined script won't. As long as it's recoverable, no problem, but I remember the pumping heart and breathlessness as I watched my devices on several occasions sitting with the boot animation for 10-15 minutes and thinking "What the hell do I do now?"
I know I'm hijacking this thread (sorry...) but is there anything you can think of that would definitely hard-brick my device if I'm being thick or careless? I've never managed it, and maybe as Android progresses it's becoming harder to hard-brick, but is there ever a time when I need to think "There's no way back from this one"?
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If you're encrypted, recovery will always ask you for a password. If you've set a password in android, you use that..if you have not set a password in android, you use the default twrp password.
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Thank for the heads up really appreciate that. BTW what is the default password for twrp
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Thank for the heads up really appreciate that. BTW what is the default password for twrp
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Not sure, Im not encrypted. But its documented somewhere by twrp dev. Maybe on their site or in their thread