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Not that most people here are really bothered since you use the custom ROMs, but now this means there will be an official Jelly Bean template to make a sweet CM JB ROM off of.
Hopefully they won't cancel the upgrade.
Do you think we will get 4.1 after 4.2 is released?
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Prob 4.1
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I don't trust moto.
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I don't trust moto.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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I ordered already other device, not sure if I'll 100% move to it, but I plan to get rid of moto after that happened with my previous device motorola photon. I couldn't wait more and decided to try droid 4. After this politics I plan to go out of moto once I'll find good device. Hope, that found already.
I'm posting this from a D4 on Jellybeans but I'm still glad to hear this. I think it will go a long way towards making people feel they can trust Motorola again, which as we can see from a few other posts here many people do not.
The real question in my mind is, what will come first, the DROID 5 or the official JB upgrade? What I want to see are updates the drop shortly after AOSP does, not a year later...
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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At this point I would be happy with that. 4.3 in screen + S4 (AKA the Photon Q)= fine with me.
The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
I wonder if the old cheesecake method would work if Motorola does start working on official Jellybean updates.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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I'd ditch moto in a heartbeat if there was another phone with a physical keyboard. Too bad there'll never be a nexus with a keyboard.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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I don't mean to change the subject but which ROM are you using? The cyanogen 10 has no camera, Bluetooth issues, and crashes (not that I'm complaining, I'm grateful to even have it), but I thought that was pretty much the situation for all of them at the moment?
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
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where did you read that?
I'd be more than satisfied to get 4.1 in Q1 of next year.
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where did you read that?
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It's been around for a while at http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...2-2-key-lime-pie-upgrade-timeline-razr-x.html
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Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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I'm pretty sure this article was labeled as untrue rumor. Android 4.2.2 won't be a the next codename of android. I'm pretty sure we will be getting JB 4.1 since that's what Moto promised to us earlier this year. Honestly, I don't think any devices with less than 2GB will get Android 4.2 other than stock Android devices.
It's been a good run the the D4, I'm pretty happy with CM10 on here right now, much less bloated! I just miss the power off animation (CRT)...
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Sweet!
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yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).
This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?
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This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?
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this is a sign you need to go out and get ice cream today.
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This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?
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Nah, you're just lucky
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I was actually wondering about this last night.. great news! I kind of assumed they would, but I'm more curious about the timing.
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yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).
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Is there any evidence that the Bionic is getting it after the RAZR? I know that kind of makes sense considering they very clearly stated that the RAZR is getting it and I'd imagine a lot of buyers are getting it under that assumption, but it would be kind of cool if the same or a close release date.
You all do realize that between the vendors and the providers, those projections rarely mean anything, right? It'll also be interesting to see how Verizon deals with an OS that will allow you to remove bloatware without even having root privileges.
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yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).
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How do you know the tbolt is getting it?
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It really doesn't matter if Verizon approved ICS for the Bionic or not. By the time Razr receives the update the Devs will have everything need for a stable port to the Bionic. I don't think the Thunderbolt will get ICS since HTC is still working on it's successor "Vigor" will likely receive it first.
Cool thing about this is that we know it runs well on TI SoC's so performance should be awesome whether it comes from CM or from an official update. I for one hope for CM!
I can't remember the time frame it took CM to get from froyo to gingerbread.
I think if the bionic didn't get icecream sandwich, Motorola would have things to worry about, like a bunch of disgruntled customers who may never purchase another Motorola again. By the time we get it, Google may be announce Cheeseburger(joke name for next version )
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What should we expect to see? Will there be a motoblur intergration or will it be straight up ICS?
My preference would be a non molested ICS but I'm sure we'll end up with another locked steaming turd.
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Keep in mind that Google now owns Motorola Mobility... if we're lucky, that will mean a more pure version of AOSP on our devices.
I'm really hoping for an AOSP build of ICS for the bionic, I love the way AOSP looks for Android 4.0
Starting to have my doubts that we get ICS from moto.... Have a feeling our developers are gonna make it work 100% for our Bionic before moto hands it to us. If moto even does hand it to us.. For the Razr Maxx to be coming out pretty soon and not even have ICS kindof makes you wonder wth moto is even doing in motoworld.
The Xoom- a Google Experience device with reference firmware- JUST today got Android 4.0. The Nexus 2 still doesn't have it officially. These things take time. It'll be April or May before we start seeing phones that are actually being released with ICS.
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It'll be April or May before we start seeing phones that are actually being released with ICS.
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Or about a month ago when the Galaxy Nexus was released...
It will take a little time for us to see it, I think. Hopefully not too long. I'm pretty sure they have officially stated that they will be releasing it for the Bionic, so I would hope they don't go back on a public announcement like that.
But, it looks like we've got devs that might get a working option for us before we get something official.
The Bionic will definitely get ICS. The phone just came out in September. Moto is pretty good with updates (usually). The Google purchase has NOT gone through yet. Will not go through til Feb supposedly.
My predictions:
-We will get it in March
-It will look pretty similar to blur as it looks now
-We will not notice much difference
-On paper second core of processor is suppose to be more optimized.
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we are lucky that the galaxy nexus as well as the newer moto phones (Razr, Razr MAXX) all use similar hardware so getting the drivers and radios up shouldnt be to difficult.
that being said its moto's skin that'll take time so we'll see. It would only be fair that they would upgrade the Bionic "fist" but who knows what will happen. I just pray ever day for an unlocked bootloader.
I wish they would throw their skin on in a similar fashion as using go launcher with beautiful Widgets so the process would be much faster. It just seems like they're making it more difficult on themselves.
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My preference would be a non molested ICS but I'm sure we'll end up with another locked steaming turd.
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Then get a different, unlocked phone. No one wants to hear whining and not everyone cares about flashing a million roms or kernels every week.
Back on topic, I fully expect the update will include most of Moto's current modifications with maybe a few less changes from stock ICS. I'm hoping they will include the same kernel as the Razr's so we can easily overclock to 1.2 GHz like they did with the 2.2 update on the original Droid.
I ditched the Bionic for a Rezound but the Bionic definitely felt like a quick phone. I just got an ICS rom for my Rezound, it was smoking fast on GB and is much smoother with ICS. The Bionic should be very fast with ICS. Maybe they can help the camera out with ICS aswell.
I ditched as well. Sorry, the point of android is openness and MOTO bit the big one after they lied.
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I ditched as well. Sorry, the point of android is openness and MOTO bit the big one after they lied.
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While that is the point of android, the cell providers lost the memo. It will never be as open as it should be with their greedy little paws on it (illegal tethering, come on, we've been tethering since before they even offered their crap hotspot service) .
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I ditched the Bionic for a Rezound but the Bionic definitely felt like a quick phone. I just got an ICS rom for my Rezound, it was smoking fast on GB and is much smoother with ICS. The Bionic should be very fast with ICS. Maybe they can help the camera out with ICS aswell.
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I actually no longer have camera problems with the liberty rom. I know the issue that you refer to as I once had it. Click the button to take a picture then wait several seconds before it actually took the picture. So inconvenient that problem was.
I'm not exactly sure what any of these newer phones can do that the bionic can't do because app developers still have to develop for the older phones because developing for the newer phones limits your user base. If your going to develop an app, you're going to develop it for as many devices as possible. By the time we start getting apps that maximize the capabilities of our phones, there will be something much better out.
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I actually no longer have camera problems with the liberty rom. I know the issue that you refer to as I once had it. Click the button to take a picture then wait several seconds before it actually took the picture. So inconvenient that problem was.
I'm not exactly sure what any of these newer phones can do that the bionic can't do because app developers still have to develop for the older phones because developing for the newer phones limits your user base. If your going to develop an app, you're going to develop it for as many devices as possible. By the time we start getting apps that maximize the capabilities of our phones, there will be something much better out.
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The camera app problem on the bionic is totally Motorola's fault. They built the phone you would think they could write code for the hardware they chose. Again I think ICS will do wonders for the bionic. It felt like they rushed it out so they could finish the razr. Given that razr and the bionic are so similar, ICS should come much sooner for you guys.
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The camera app problem on the bionic is totally Motorola's fault. They built the phone you would think they could write code for the hardware they chose. Again I think ICS will do wonders for the bionic. It felt like they rushed it out so they could finish the razr. Given that razr and the bionic are so similar, ICS should come much sooner for you guys.
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I agree that Motorola screwed this phone up. I no longer have the camera issue with the liberty rom.
Even with all the screw ups Motorola made, I was still able to get my bionic running top notch, even without the .901 radio.
The biggest problem this phone had was after it got delayed by so much, and the hype it had, it shouldn't have had some of its initial problems. Its not like we didn't all know about this phone for 8 months before being released. Don't hype up a phone so much then fail to deliver. Even with their screw ups, I feel I have mine running as good as you can expect an android to run. I've had the thunderbolt and revolution and the bionic is far better than they were.
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I agree that Motorola screwed this phone up. I no longer have the camera issue with the liberty rom.
Even with all the screw ups Motorola made, I was still able to get my bionic running top notch, even without the .901 radio.
The biggest problem this phone had was after it got delayed by so much, and the hype it had, it shouldn't have had some of its initial problems. Its not like we didn't all know about this phone for 8 months before being released. Don't hype up a phone so much then fail to deliver. Even with their screw ups, I feel I have mine running as good as you can expect an android to run. I've had the thunderbolt and revolution and the bionic is far better than they were.
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I hear you. The Tbolt was a dog. I am very glad I got rid of the bionic but it was much better than the Tbolt.
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There's nothing out there that I feel that is worth getting rid of the bionic for. The nexus has plenty compatibility issues with running some apps (majority of Samsung phones do though) and the razr is too skinney for my taste plus I feel the marginal increase in it's specs aren't worth it. I also don't like the 3 button setup on the nexus. I'm too used to having 4 and using the 4 for so long to change my way.
We have quad core coming between now and summer that will blow everything away that's out now. Dont see any sense in replacing my phone for something that is only marginally better. Every Android has its problems and the ones I have with the bionic are manageable for me.
The only thing I could see me trading my bionic is if there is a significant increase in the app development world where more processing power is necessary. But with the fragmentation of android, an app developer would be dumb to do that because as an app developer, you want your app to be compatible with as many devices as possible. I can see some games coming out that may need more processing power though. Its only a matter of time before we start seeing PlayStation 2 emulators popping up.
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....and Droid 3 is missing. Could still be coming down the pipeline, but it looks like we are out of luck for the first wave (not that surprising).
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/03/bl2012-03-06.html
I know I have forwarded this theory before - but at first glance, the list does only have devices (among all manufacturers) that are well over 512MB of RAM - I think Dinc2 is the lowest at 768MB. I may be wrong - don't have all specs memorized.
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I know I have forwarded this theory before - but at first glance, the list does only have devices (among all manufacturers) that are well over 512MB of RAM - I think Dinc2 is the lowest at 768MB. I may be wrong - don't have all specs memorized.
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It's because the people at motorola that make these decisions don't even know what RAM is and haven't even heard of kernel or XDA-forums.
They think... Hm..1024 is more than 512.. lets not give 512 mb phones ICS.
If they'd at least unlock the damn bootloaders so people like hashcode can do it for them ffs
Part of me wants to never buy another motorola device, but this keyboard is just too nice. Motorola does a good job on the hardware but between the bloatware and the locked bootloader the software part can be disappointing. So we have an os released less than 6 months after our device was released and motorola basically says screw you. Verizon is just the messenger here.
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Some of those phones are almost the same hardware as the droid 3 so I'm hoping that those vzw roms can at least be reverse engineered to figure out what's still missing in the cm9 alpha, like the camera.
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I want the hardware acceleration front facing camera and face unlock.... then I will jump ship from stock on my xt860.
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Reporting the full Motorola update schedule site: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
interesting that bionic and d4 are still listed as evaluating. But even in best case, that droid 3 is only left out of the ics fun for the first rollout (vzw does say more updates are coming, and droid 2 did get updates almost 2 years after release), it looks like it will be a while - even some brand new devices that were in the vzw press release are scheduled for q3...
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Part of me wants to never buy another motorola device
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Our only hope is the Google takeover of Moto will change their bootloader policy. This then, I can't bring myself to buy another Moto phone.
By the time it comes to the Droid 3, it will be upgrade time...
Droid 3 is one of the best phones with android and qwerty and motorola dont plan to update to ICS?? Motorola in software decisions sucks!!! They never listened to the users
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Some of those phones are almost the same hardware as the droid 3 so I'm hoping that those vzw roms can at least be reverse engineered to figure out what's still missing in the cm9 alpha, like the camera.
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The big constraint is going to be the locked bootloader.
It don't mean that droid 3 will never has ICS... just it not going to be on this first group... I'm sure in a couple of months we will see it on the list.
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It don't mean that droid 3 will never has ICS... just it not going to be on this first group... I'm sure in a couple of months we will see it on the list.
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Well if they wait much longer:
A) people have upgraded to a newer phone
B) all people who actually care about having ICS rather than gingerbread already use hashcode's ICS
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Well if they wait much longer:
A) people have upgraded to a newer phone
B) all people who actually care about having ICS rather than gingerbread already use hashcode's ICS
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I think that in Q1 of 2013 we might have an oficial ICS support, i don't believe sonner than that...
First it's motorola who decide, if our droid 3 can have ICS, then VZW if it will have.
Motorola should still be evaluating if ICS will going to run fine on our Droid 3 and if it's they will update his "ICS Update Schedule" and VZW his own.
Cya
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I think that in Q1 of 2013 we will have an oficial ICS support, i don't believe sonner than that...
First it's motorola who decide, if our droid 3 can have ICS, then VZW if it will have.
Motorola should still be evaluating if ICS will going to run fine on our Droid 3 and if it's they will update his "ICS Update Schedule" and VZW his own.
Cya
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Well I don't think it'll take hashcode 'nd crew 1 year to fix hw codecs/video recording and some bug fixes
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Well I don't think it'll take hashcode 'nd crew 1 year to fix hw codecs/video recording and some bug fixes
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Neither myself, I just talking about an Oficial ICS support by Motorola...so cheers to Hashcode!
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Saw that. Stoked!
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HorsexD said:
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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I came from the world of AT&T and Samsung. I will be stoked when we actually get it. Until then, I will assume "Early Q3 of this year" means late Q3 of next year, lol.
I'm currently using gummy ics and it works perfectly. I think I can manage a little while longer without an "official" build including all of Verizon's bloat.
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GummyICS is nice, but no ICS ROMs for the Bionic have hardware acceleration, HDMI, or properly working data (as in without the random drops). Stuff always leaks before it gets released, so I'm sure there will be a rooted, bloat-free ROM before it gets officially released by Motorola. Also, now that the Googlerola deal went through, maybe it will happen a little quicker...and a little less bloaty.
I did notice the lack of hardware acceleration when trying to use chrome beta, but I have yet to experience data drops on both 3g and 4g.
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GummyICS is nice, but no ICS ROMs for the Bionic have hardware acceleration, HDMI, or properly working data (as in without the random drops). Stuff always leaks before it gets released, so I'm sure there will be a rooted, bloat-free ROM before it gets officially released by Motorola. Also, now that the Googlerola deal went through, maybe it will happen a little quicker...and a little less bloaty.
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The bloat is mostly from Verizon, only some from Motorola (Motocast, motoactv, etc...). So the Googlerola deal likely won't fix that particular issue.
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Im Looking forward to the Lapdock Update the most. It would be nice to gain some speed on this little bad boy.
Won't the next Android version be announced by then? That would kinda be a downer considering we're still waiting for ICS. To me it doesn't matter that much at this point because there are already Gingerbread roms out there with an ICS theme. Not exactly like the real thing but for me it's good enough, heh.
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The bloat is mostly from Verizon, only some from Motorola (Motocast, motoactv, etc...). So the Googlerola deal likely won't fix that particular issue.
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I like how they call it zumocast on the bionic but motocast on some of their other devices. I wouldn't consider it bloat though. Every phone should come with an app like that. It's pretty useful.
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You do realize there is another post about this topic? That was what sucked about the bionic community, we kept getting repeat posts.
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You do realize there is another post about this topic? That was what sucked about the bionic community, we kept getting repeat posts.
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Your right. The threads should be merged but to be fair mine was made before the other one, Although just by a few minutes so its no ones fault. The other op probably didnt see this one because of the small window frame.
Ponder This Though
HorsexD said:
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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Verizon is soon to drop Bionic from their phone catalog, too many newer fascinating devices are out. after it goes off web catalog, Do you all really think they will give it an ICS update....This is the Evil Empire we are talking about here!
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Verizon is soon to drop Bionic from their phone catalog, too many newer fascinating devices are out. after it goes off web catalog, Do you all really think they will give it an ICS update....This is the Evil Empire we are talking about here!
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Well there is Test builds being found through Cheesecake and The Bionic isnt much Different from the razr and that is getting ICS.
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Well there is Test builds being found through Cheesecake and The Bionic isnt much Different from the razr and that is getting ICS.
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Owned, son!
Sorry I couldn't resist. But still, I've been following the wait on ICS since I got my bionic back in October, and ICS will be welcome when it finally gets here. Id follow cheesecake myself but I hate stock blur with a passion, so I follow XDA.
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If we do not get ICS soon, i would not be surprised if the Bionic "fell through the cracks".
You should be surprised, since engineering builds are already being spread around. Doesn't take *too much* more than getting approval and changing the signatures to make it a user build.
Honestly all we need is 1 leak with a good kernel and we can switch over to CM9 through Bootstrap or Safestrap into CM9 and have a working camera/video and hardware acceleration.
Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.
Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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TheAltruistic said:
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.
Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)
I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...
Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.
Pirateghost said:
awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.