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Ics?

Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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Motorola does not list the Droid 3 on any of their roadmaps...it is like they just forgot about the device.
I would not hold my breath but at this point there is no official response in ether direction.

We are all waiting for Motorola to issue some updates... I think they are going to make the announcements all at the same time, of which phones will and won't make the upgrade.
D3 is in good shape though, it runs almost the same CPU and GPU as Galaxy Nexus, just has half the memory. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

prsterero said:
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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I remember seeing somewhere that motorola is redoing their software update page on their website, I know they are working on it as we speak. I would hope that it's soon, I remember google saying that the updates should be quicker with ICS but saying and doing are two different things.

prsterero said:
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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Even if Moto and Verizon don't officially give ICS to the D3, you can bet that shortly after they release it for either the Razr or Bionic that it will be ported in it's "blurred" setup to the D3.

mikedyk43 said:
Even if Moto and Verizon don't officially give ICS to the D3, you can bet that shortly after they release it for either the Razr or Bionic that it will be ported in it's "blurred" setup to the D3.
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Keep in mind that if they don't release it for the Droid 3, the "ported" version based from those won't get the new kernel that those devices get along with their ICS upgrade...

If they release just one of the phones Hash supports for ICS with a camera, that is all we really need anyway.

MrObvious said:
If they release just one of the phones Hash supports for ICS with a camera, that is all we really need anyway.
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Not if the app relies on the newer kernel that the upgrade will bring to the other devices...
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Motorola released their "staging plans" for ICS upgrades...
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
DROID 3
USA
Evaluation & Planning
Further details to follow.
They state that some products may not make it beyond the Evaluation stage....
Categorized in 1 Gig ram devices and 512 Meg Ram devices. Bionic, Razr and Droid4 are also listed as "Evaluation & Planning".

This is good news, but dumb because all those 4 phones should have been evaluated when being made for ics compatibility
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prsterero said:
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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http://bit.ly/MotoSoftUpdate
there is some info (but not confirmed)
same update page but custom url
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i hope D3 and bionic get Official ICS (mb200 in latam didnt get 2.1 so i would not give all my hopes again and then rant a "never more and/again Motorola" quote

Dri94 said:
This is good news, but dumb because all those 4 phones should have been evaluated when being made for ics compatibility
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I wonder if they had to build their new blur before making the actual ICS builds for their phones.
Still I'm happy that they have at least acknowledged that the D3 might get updated to ICS maybe someday possibly a remote chance.

Interesting...the Motorola Razr is in "Development" status but the Droid Razr is still only "Evaluation and Planning" stage....
Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).

tcrews said:
Interesting...the Motorola Razr is in "Development" status but the Droid Razr is still only "Evaluation and Planning" stage....
Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).
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I noticed the same thing... It looks like for the first time Canada might be getting something quicker than the US... (At least in the RAZR ICS upgrade department).
All I care about is that the RAZR upgrade code leaks so that way we can get the cameras working within CM9, then maybe I'll jump ship from stock.

danifunker said:
All I care about is that the RAZR upgrade code leaks so that way we can get the cameras working within CM9, then maybe I'll jump ship from stock.
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that still really doesn't help as Hashcode has pointed out the dependencies the ICS camera has on the ION driver inside the ICS kernel....which are not present in the Gingerbread kernel that will still be running on the Droid 3 with CM9.
These dependencies won't go away on a Razr ICS camera....as the kernel will be getting updated along with the OS when they push it out.

tcrews said:
Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).
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I agree. All Verizon dual-core phones - even the Bionic, Razr series and D4 - are the same status. I think that Verizon's approval process and bloatware install requirements have become too unpredictable to allow for a definitive upgrade period.

It wouldn't surprise me if a working ics blur rom existed at moto and was stable. The hurdle has always been verizon. I can't understand the forced bloat concept considering most users don't use it and will root now to rid themselves of it.
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[Q] Droid 3 and Official Ice Cream Sandwich Update Chances.

So guys, what do you all think ? What are our chances to receive ics from motorola? I would say we got some pretty decent chances since our phone is "Evaluation & Planning" on https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c it could only take a while... But i still believe in it, what are your oppinion guys ? Will we get it after all ?

I highly doubt that the D3 will ever see an official ICS update. We were lucky to get .906 to be honest. The closest thing we will get is CM9 and AOKP. But hey, there's always that little glimmer of chance though.

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m4nu4l said:
So guys, what do you all think ? What are our chances to receive ics from motorola? I would say we got some pretty decent chances since our phone is "Evaluation & Planning" on https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c it could only take a while... But i still believe in it, what are your oppinion guys ? Will we get it after all ?
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I think we will get it... Probably not until December or something crazy like that. They probably won't make an announcement until July or Aug as to which phones will receive it.
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Im being optimistic about the update too, Droid 3 is powerful enough to run the ICS smoothly... Why shouldnt they do it ?

m4nu4l said:
Im being optimistic about the update too, Droid 3 is powerful enough to run the ICS smoothly... Why shouldnt they do it ?
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I think Verizon won't allow the D3 to be updated. They are focusing more on 4G LTE devices as well as devices that have at least 1 Gig of ram. Since the D3 has neither, I doubt that we will see ICS officially released from Verizon.

Most of the devices in the market today have 512ram and are running ICS Smoothly.. Officialy.

m4nu4l said:
Most of the devices in the market today have 512ram and are running ICS Smoothly.. Officialy.
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But do those devices have heavy bloatware and a heavy custom UI like MotoBlur running on them? These are things that you have to take into consideration. There's still hope for an official ICS update, but I just don't see it happening.

Our phone runs just fine without them. All we need is hardware codecs and the big stuff with ICS will be pretty much done.
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MrObvious said:
Our phone runs just fine without them. All we need is hardware codecs and the big stuff with ICS will be pretty much done.
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Im' awaare, but an official release of ICS would have the bloat and custom UI.

clorox.bleach said:
Im' awaare, but an official release of ICS would have the bloat and custom UI.
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and no one on XDA ever created a rom based on "official" updates without removing bloat or UI?

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and no one on XDA ever created a rom based on "official" updates without removing bloat or UI?
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I'm not talking about custom roms like CM9 or AOKP. I am talking about a stock ICS rom from Motorola and Verizon for the D3. An official update. I am simply stating that since the D3 has no 4G LTE and only 512 mb of ram, Verizon and Motorola most likely won't bother updating it to ICS. Also, being that it has 512 mb of ram, ICS, along with all of Verizon's bloat and Motorola's custom UI, won't run as smoothly as a custom rom.

Isn't there a internal moto dev version of ics that supposedly ran beautifully? thought I remembered reading about that a while ago.
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Heres an email i received from Motorola support.
Dear Vytautas,
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. I’ve reviewed your e-mail and I’m ready to help.
We do understand that you are excited with the latest Android Ice Cream Sandwich update and we are very sorry for the inconvenience. However, at this time, we do not have any further details, yet, if the Droid 3 will be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich.
As soon as we have the information, it will be shared to all users. Do not worry, your concern has already been noted.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
Brian
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I think that support guy knows something, but he just cant tell anything... Do not worry, your concern has already been noted. This fraze makes me think about that...

I've got a feeling Moto will be working on D3/Milestone3/XT883 or whatever its called and possibly release the files for ours or similar devices, but the sticking point will be Verizon.
Shouldn't matter if the other carriers/similar devices get ICS, Id guess porting what we'd need wouldn't be a problem then

clorox.bleach said:
I think Verizon won't allow the D3 to be updated. They are focusing more on 4G LTE devices as well as devices that have at least 1 Gig of ram. Since the D3 has neither, I doubt that we will see ICS officially released from Verizon.
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An HTC Droid Incredible 2 update has already been announced, so it's not that. (The DInc 2 has 768 MB of RAM; perhaps that is enough to make a difference? I doubt it, though.)
It's probably 50/50. Clearly Moto will focus on getting the Razrs, Bionic and Droid 4 updated before they move on to other phones. The D3 seems a natural upgrade - unlike the X2, it has the same processor as those other phones; it's basically a Bionic with a keyboard, no LTE, "world phone" capability and half the RAM. Is that enough to make it a difficult upgrade? I guess we'll know when we know.

m4nu4l said:
Heres an email i received from Motorola support.
I think that support guy knows something, but he just cant tell anything... Do not worry, your concern has already been noted. This fraze makes me think about that...
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Being the downer I am, I feel like he meant to say "SHUT UP ALREADY! We know you want ICS! We just like watching you all squirm!"
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So, today I got bored and decided to pick Moto's brains a bit about this topic. (Yes, this is what I did with my free time today.)
I got slightly off topic myself do to his ignorance, but in the end it went well I'd say... You can pretty much skip to the last 5 or so lines.
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Rez: Hi, my name is Rez. How may I help you?
Me: I just have a question about the Droid 3 getting Andorid 4.0. I see that older devices (from other companies) with less powerful internals are scheduled to receive an ICS update. Is it likely that the D3 will receive 4.0?
Rez: That's a good question, Redsox985. Let me check that out for you.
Me: Thanks.
Rez: Thank you for waiting, Redsox985.
Rez: I can see that the ICS update for Droid 3 is under evaluation and planning. We will keep you posted thru our website for updates.
Rez: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Me: What does "evaluation and planning" mean? Can you say if it'll happen or not based on this?
Rez: We are waiting for information about the update, Redsox985. It is pending. It should pushed thru since we send updates to most of the Motorola
smartphones from time to time.
Me: Also, I know that independent developers have made a handful of ROMs built from source that run smoothly on the D3. Is it a matter of if the phone can run ICS or is its age an issue?
Rez: Are you referring to a different software for Droid 3 or get the phone rooted, is that what you mean?
Me: Yes, by rooting, you can flash independently built ICS rom's from android source. They run on the phone, but some issues exist between the gingerbread kernel (locked boot loader) and ICS features like hardware acceleration, video camera, and flash.
Me: Adobe flash that is.
Rez: The problem later is the phone will not be able to receive updates once the phone is rooted.
Me: It can be unrooted and restored back to stock software with an SBF.
Rez: It can be unrooted but the updates will not work anymore.
Me: I just did it. I was running 5.6.890 rooted with an open source ICS rom. The 5.7.906 update had started to be pushed OTA. I ran RSD Lite and restored the phone to box stock 5.6.890. I then accepted and installed the OTA. Then re-rooted it.
Rez: It may be working for now but we don't the after-effect of it. I have that case earlier that his phone was rooted before. After trying to unroot it, the phone will not boot up. He's trying to update the phone but it cannot be updated anymore since the phone is not on. suggested to send it to our repair center but I set an expectation to him that it will be considered to be out of warranty already.
Me: RSD Lite will flash all partitions of the phone (radio, system, etc.) back to box stock as if it was purchased new.
Rez: That's a good experiment, Redsox985. How do you want me to help you with that?
Me: It's not an experiment. It works. I just used it. It unrooted my phone and flashed all partitions allowing me to accept the latest OTA.
Me: If I'm able to return to the OTA path, then how could receiving an ICS update (if one even comes) be any different?
Rez: ICS has not yet been announced, we don't have the list of enhancements yet what are included on the ICS. We don't have the information also what will not work once the ICS is installed on the phone that was rooted. We will keep you posted thru our website at www.motorola com for updates.
Me: It can be unrooted and restored to stock software to the point where an OTA will not be able to detect anything different. It's possible to flash box stock software to the phone. It rewrites all partitions.
Rez: I see. That's a good idea.
Me: So, can you speak on the likelihood of the D3 receiving official ICS? It can run it, it's been done. Why won't Moto even consider it?
Rez: We are following what's being updated to us. As I mentioned earlier the ICS update for Droid 3 is under evaluation and planning. If you have successfully done it by rooting, it's not from us.
Me: I know it's not official, I'm just wondering why it hasn't been done being that it's possible.
Rez: Because we are working on updates thoroughly. We don't want that we just send out updates with glitches.
Me: So, ICS for the D3 is being worked on?
Rez: Yes. That's part of evaluation.
Me: But it's possible that the update will just be killed internally before it ever is released?
Rez: I cant say that unless it happens. I don't want to give any false hopes. Because we are also waiting for that update.
Me: Can you estimate the D3's chances of receiving ICS?
Rez: 90 per cent it will receive it.
Me: Wow. I'm impressed. Thanks.
Me: Is that a hopeful or conservative estimate?
Rez: Hopeful.

Lolz I think you know more about the phone then your rep did
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Endoroid said:
Lolz I think you know more about the phone then your rep did
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Undoubtedly. But he has the internal update info I don't. So I dealt with his stupidity and kept pressing.

NO ICS For Us :(

Just checked the updated Motorola page... looks like this device is stuck at android 2.3 forever.
That really sucks, it's gotta be the 512mb memory that's in the device. I knew that would possibly be an issue when I first got the phone. Maybe we can put more pressure on moto to unlock our bootloader so we can get a fully functional ICS (even if it's hacked) on our devices.
Check the link:
http://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c

PFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I just saw this as well, very disappointing. I wish they would open up development to the community on devices they no longer plan on upgrading/supporting. I know it will never happen...but I can dream

Droid4 and Bionic get the ICS
maybe Hashcode or some one try to do what he can, and pull out from this phones something for us and for CM9 on D3

niko99 said:
Droid4 and Bionic get the ICS
maybe Hashcode or some one try to do what he can, and pull out from this phones something for us and for CM9 on D3
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Just got a response back from hash regarding this on twitter:
" @danifunker @dhacker29 I have 1 more trick up my sleeve for the D3. And if that doesnt work, then ill drop back to cm7.2 or something. "
Let's hope the tweak works out... but either way I think I could live with CM 7.2, although I would REALLY love running ICS on this phone.

What ever happened to Kexec for the D3? I'll sacrifice a core for a new kernel that could even OC that one to 1.2.

I started to believe that motorola doesn't want anyone to buy motorola products.

calash said:
I just saw this as well, very disappointing. I wish they would open up development to the community on devices they no longer plan on upgrading/supporting. I know it will never happen...but I can dream
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Sure would be nice if they would just open up phones when they started considering them legacy devices. Other than 4G which I don't particularly need anyway, the D3 is a great phone that could keep going for a long, long time just like my D1 did (I skipped the D2 and went directly from 1 to 3).
Part of the reason the D1 lasted me so long was that I could keep getting updates for it from Cyanogen. In fact I still have it. Though its no longer on the Vzw network I can test various things on it like security software, remote wipes etc over WiFi.
Verizon is probably against unlocking the D3 because they don't want to have the support issues and that's probably why we will never see it. How many people on these forums do you hear about that are constantly returning/exchanging phones that they have managed to kill through tweaking? Then its those same people who complain the loudest when the Motorola and the carriers won't unlock the phones. So, while I wish it was not so, we will probably never see them unlocked unless someone finds a way to hack them. Motorola isn't going to help and particularly VZW is not going to help.

danifunker said:
Just checked the updated Motorola page... looks like this device is stuck at android 2.3 forever.
That really sucks, it's gotta be the 512mb memory that's in the device. I knew that would possibly be an issue when I first got the phone. Maybe we can put more pressure on moto to unlock our bootloader so we can get a fully functional ICS (even if it's hacked) on our devices.
Check the link:
http://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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HTC just released the HTC Desire C with a 600Mhz processor and 512MB ram. It runs Android 4.0
If they can do it with that, surely Motorola can too

ChristianPreachr said:
HTC just released the HTC Desire C with a 600Mhz processor and 512MB ram. It runs Android 4.0
If they can do it with that, surely Motorola can too
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It's possible that the HVGA screen on that device needs far less memory - HVGA is 480x320 which is 70% less pixels to push than the qHD on the Droid 3. Also, Moto is pretty terrible at software, Blur runs a lot slower and chews up a lot more memory than a lot of its competitors.
What Moto should do is release a plain vanilla, non-blur ICS as an optional upgrade. I have to think that would take a minimal amount of time to port vanilla ICS to the Droid 3 if there is no need to get it working with Blur - just need the drivers which should be substantially similar to Droid 4.
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ratman6161 said:
Sure would be nice if they would just open up phones when they started considering them legacy devices. Other than 4G which I don't particularly need anyway, the D3 is a great phone that could keep going for a long, long time just like my D1 did (I skipped the D2 and went directly from 1 to 3).
Part of the reason the D1 lasted me so long was that I could keep getting updates for it from Cyanogen. In fact I still have it. Though its no longer on the Vzw network I can test various things on it like security software, remote wipes etc over WiFi.
Verizon is probably against unlocking the D3 because they don't want to have the support issues and that's probably why we will never see it. How many people on these forums do you hear about that are constantly returning/exchanging phones that they have managed to kill through tweaking? Then its those same people who complain the loudest when the Motorola and the carriers won't unlock the phones. So, while I wish it was not so, we will probably never see them unlocked unless someone finds a way to hack them. Motorola isn't going to help and particularly VZW is not going to help.
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Couldn't they just do what HTC did - online based bootloader unlock tool, which builds a list of unlocked IMEIs which are then voided of their warranty, and people calling for support will be checked against this list. Of course, the most enterprising guys with bricked phones will try to change their IMEI sticker, but that wouldn't match their Verizon account records.

This is so sad... Cant believe that Dual Core Processor phone is not eligable to receive Ice Cream Sandwich... Media shall be contacted, so they could make fun from Motorola... I'm never going to buy Motorola products again.. Ever.

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What Moto should do is release a plain vanilla, non-blur ICS as an optional upgrade. I have to think that would take a minimal amount of time to port vanilla ICS to the Droid 3 if there is no need to get it working with Blur - just need the drivers which should be substantially similar to Droid 4.
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Im pretty sure all we need is a compatible kernel and hashcode will take care of the rest. If Motorola could do that, it can extend the life of our phones.
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Time to do some more Facebook trolling, I may even make an account over on the Motorola forums and do some spamming/trolling.
In July 2011 when I bought my phone there were 2 new Motorola smartphones out there the Droid 3 and Droid X2. Both had dual core processors and felt mid-high end at the time. But somehow an Android OS upgrade that was released less than 6 months after the Droid 3 was released is skipped by Motorola.
This was my first Android phone and I bought it because I wanted a keyboard and really liked the feel of a friends OG Droid. The OG was probably built better but I have still been mostly satisfied with the Droid 3 hardware wise. But I just can't see myself buying another Motorola device. I will have to see what is out there in 2013 when I upgrade, hopefully some nice QWERTY non Motorola devices.

Damn it Verizon
This is the Fourth phone that I've had from Verizon that has been abandoned before the end of it's life cycle. Although I am sure this is Motorola's fault I will curse Verizon for all time and remember to get the latest and greatest for top dollar right off the bat to ensure that I will get updates when dealing with a cell phone company or maybe get a landline and tell jerks like Verizon to stick it where the sun don't shine. The real pisser is that I am finding this out the day after I spent the money that could have been used to buy out my contract. Color me angry and frustrated.
I'm going to start reading up about custom roms for this phone I might as well since support is all but gone from this model.

Return the phone and tell them you want out. Can be done.
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spunker88 said:
Time to do some more Facebook trolling, I may even make an account over on the Motorola forums and do some spamming/trolling.
In July 2011 when I bought my phone there were 2 new Motorola smartphones out there the Droid 3 and Droid X2. Both had dual core processors and felt mid-high end at the time. But somehow an Android OS upgrade that was released less than 6 months after the Droid 3 was released is skipped by Motorola.
This was my first Android phone and I bought it because I wanted a keyboard and really liked the feel of a friends OG Droid. The OG was probably built better but I have still been mostly satisfied with the Droid 3 hardware wise. But I just can't see myself buying another Motorola device. I will have to see what is out there in 2013 when I upgrade, hopefully some nice QWERTY non Motorola devices.
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Please don't troll that forum. The mods there aren't actualy affiliated with moto like you think.
I did some of this back in the day about the d2 and learned the hard way.
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Bionic to Get ICS by Early Q3

As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c

Saw that. Stoked!
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HorsexD said:
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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I came from the world of AT&T and Samsung. I will be stoked when we actually get it. Until then, I will assume "Early Q3 of this year" means late Q3 of next year, lol.

I'm currently using gummy ics and it works perfectly. I think I can manage a little while longer without an "official" build including all of Verizon's bloat.
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GummyICS is nice, but no ICS ROMs for the Bionic have hardware acceleration, HDMI, or properly working data (as in without the random drops). Stuff always leaks before it gets released, so I'm sure there will be a rooted, bloat-free ROM before it gets officially released by Motorola. Also, now that the Googlerola deal went through, maybe it will happen a little quicker...and a little less bloaty.

I did notice the lack of hardware acceleration when trying to use chrome beta, but I have yet to experience data drops on both 3g and 4g.
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brandogg said:
GummyICS is nice, but no ICS ROMs for the Bionic have hardware acceleration, HDMI, or properly working data (as in without the random drops). Stuff always leaks before it gets released, so I'm sure there will be a rooted, bloat-free ROM before it gets officially released by Motorola. Also, now that the Googlerola deal went through, maybe it will happen a little quicker...and a little less bloaty.
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The bloat is mostly from Verizon, only some from Motorola (Motocast, motoactv, etc...). So the Googlerola deal likely won't fix that particular issue.
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Im Looking forward to the Lapdock Update the most. It would be nice to gain some speed on this little bad boy.

Won't the next Android version be announced by then? That would kinda be a downer considering we're still waiting for ICS. To me it doesn't matter that much at this point because there are already Gingerbread roms out there with an ICS theme. Not exactly like the real thing but for me it's good enough, heh.

ka1z0ku said:
The bloat is mostly from Verizon, only some from Motorola (Motocast, motoactv, etc...). So the Googlerola deal likely won't fix that particular issue.
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I like how they call it zumocast on the bionic but motocast on some of their other devices. I wouldn't consider it bloat though. Every phone should come with an app like that. It's pretty useful.
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You do realize there is another post about this topic? That was what sucked about the bionic community, we kept getting repeat posts.
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smokedkill said:
You do realize there is another post about this topic? That was what sucked about the bionic community, we kept getting repeat posts.
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Your right. The threads should be merged but to be fair mine was made before the other one, Although just by a few minutes so its no ones fault. The other op probably didnt see this one because of the small window frame.

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HorsexD said:
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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Verizon is soon to drop Bionic from their phone catalog, too many newer fascinating devices are out. after it goes off web catalog, Do you all really think they will give it an ICS update....This is the Evil Empire we are talking about here!

dogpuke1 said:
Verizon is soon to drop Bionic from their phone catalog, too many newer fascinating devices are out. after it goes off web catalog, Do you all really think they will give it an ICS update....This is the Evil Empire we are talking about here!
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Well there is Test builds being found through Cheesecake and The Bionic isnt much Different from the razr and that is getting ICS.

HorsexD said:
Well there is Test builds being found through Cheesecake and The Bionic isnt much Different from the razr and that is getting ICS.
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Owned, son!
Sorry I couldn't resist. But still, I've been following the wait on ICS since I got my bionic back in October, and ICS will be welcome when it finally gets here. Id follow cheesecake myself but I hate stock blur with a passion, so I follow XDA.
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If we do not get ICS soon, i would not be surprised if the Bionic "fell through the cracks".

You should be surprised, since engineering builds are already being spread around. Doesn't take *too much* more than getting approval and changing the signatures to make it a user build.

Honestly all we need is 1 leak with a good kernel and we can switch over to CM9 through Bootstrap or Safestrap into CM9 and have a working camera/video and hardware acceleration.

Droid 4 will get Jelly Bean OFFICIAL

Android Police article
Not that most people here are really bothered since you use the custom ROMs, but now this means there will be an official Jelly Bean template to make a sweet CM JB ROM off of.

Hopefully they won't cancel the upgrade.
Do you think we will get 4.1 after 4.2 is released?
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Prob 4.1
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I don't trust moto.

olegfusion said:
I don't trust moto.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.

highlandsun said:
Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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I ordered already other device, not sure if I'll 100% move to it, but I plan to get rid of moto after that happened with my previous device motorola photon. I couldn't wait more and decided to try droid 4. After this politics I plan to go out of moto once I'll find good device. Hope, that found already.

I'm posting this from a D4 on Jellybeans but I'm still glad to hear this. I think it will go a long way towards making people feel they can trust Motorola again, which as we can see from a few other posts here many people do not.
The real question in my mind is, what will come first, the DROID 5 or the official JB upgrade? What I want to see are updates the drop shortly after AOSP does, not a year later...
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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maddeath said:
Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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At this point I would be happy with that. 4.3 in screen + S4 (AKA the Photon Q)= fine with me.

The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013

I wonder if the old cheesecake method would work if Motorola does start working on official Jellybean updates.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly

maddeath said:
The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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I'd ditch moto in a heartbeat if there was another phone with a physical keyboard. Too bad there'll never be a nexus with a keyboard.

AreEvenSackingMySack said:
I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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I don't mean to change the subject but which ROM are you using? The cyanogen 10 has no camera, Bluetooth issues, and crashes (not that I'm complaining, I'm grateful to even have it), but I thought that was pretty much the situation for all of them at the moment?

alex94kumar said:
now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
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where did you read that?

I'd be more than satisfied to get 4.1 in Q1 of next year.

ovelayer said:
where did you read that?
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It's been around for a while at http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...2-2-key-lime-pie-upgrade-timeline-razr-x.html
Cheers,
Steve.

Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys

ovelayer said:
Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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I'm pretty sure this article was labeled as untrue rumor. Android 4.2.2 won't be a the next codename of android. I'm pretty sure we will be getting JB 4.1 since that's what Moto promised to us earlier this year. Honestly, I don't think any devices with less than 2GB will get Android 4.2 other than stock Android devices.
It's been a good run the the D4, I'm pretty happy with CM10 on here right now, much less bloated! I just miss the power off animation (CRT)...
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