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I've had my GSM Galaxy Nexus since Feb.. and not once has anyone even notice it or asked what kind of phone that is..
Along with that half the people you meet always have something negative to about Android.. rather its not being as smooth as Apple products.. or its just too big..
But Google releases a tablet.. with no kind of public press (and by public i meant TV ads etc at least i haven't seen any) or any kind of notice before hand besides on blogs that i figure only people like me care about (Android Central, The verge etc)
and the thing flys off shelves as soon as they are in stock.. as if it was a Apple product .. and Google is so backed up with orders they didn't even expect this..
What makes the Nexus 7 such a high demand.. we had AOSP tablets before like the XOOM, and Samsung makes some pretty good tablets.. But no one is rushing to buy them, At least from what i remember.. i walked into my Best Buy to buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and they had about 30 in stock on launch day. and the Galaxy Tab 2 7" just came out
Is it just the price point? Jelly Bean? (Even tho 9/10 people don't care what OS their on)
It's a few things for me. The price point being the most obvious but the spec at that price is a winner. Backed by the fact that it's a Nexus device so you're gonna get updates also helps.
I think it's the price.
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Price point
High specs
High build quality
Jelly bean
Asus were the only company making the high standard of android tablets, so it made sense for Google to choose them & it looks like they were correct in doing so
I constantly play with my tablet, thinking I would have paid a whole lot more for it.
The only downside for me on this tablet was the 16gb storage, it would have been nice to have 32gb (even if they charged a bit more)
But once you change your habits of not installing everything you own, 16gb is very manageable for me.
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Because this is the first OFIICIAL TRUE AOSP based Google tablet. Xoom was more of unofficial but xoom was way overpriced and had alot of thing going against it from the very beginning. I would think these tablets flying off the shelves because its such a great deal and performs great. One of the best tablets out right now, if not the best period. You get all this power for budget price. If I were you, I'd be trying to get one asap
It's definitely the price point. Flagship android device for that price, I'll take it.
Once I find a job that is.
Congrats to Google though, it's about time an Android tablet starts flying off the shelves.
High end feel and performance for a low-end price.
Jellybean IS buttery smooth, and the Nexus7 feels REALLY fast to use, the screen is georgous, the tablet has a great feel. And it's currently got a bargain price.
I say currently, Clearly by Google pricing it at break-even pricing, other Android tablet vendors don't really stand a chance of competing. So I expect that now Google have shown what can be done with Android tablets, they won't be in too much of a rush to replenish stocks and sell them at the same price. They will have pressure from other Android tablet sellers to give them a break.
In short, expect limited supply and/or price rises for future shipments. You can be sure the $25 play credit will evaporate soon too.
Also with the N7 flying off the shelves it also put pressure on Apple to bring a 7" tablet to the market & the likes of Samsung & others to up their game to offers better specs 7" tablets for around the same price £200.
I gotta agree, it's an amazing tablet, but how the hell does Joe Public know about it?! There's not even a real commercial for it, just a bunch of boring programmers talking about what they have done with it. The only places I've seen it advertised are online ads, but I'm guessing I'm only seeing them everywhere because I've been searching for information about the tablet non-stop.
Either way, I'm glad it's had this popularity. I feel other manufacturers haven't got Tablets "right" yet, and I'm a HUGE fan of Samsung, I try and buy their new tech whenever possible (I have a Samsung: washing machine, TV, monitor, galaxy s2 and laptop) but I couldn't bring myself to purchase their tablet, despite me wanting a tablet for quite some while).
Google needs to take a chunk out of Apple. With Google being almost the opposite of Apple (open source, etc) then I'm glad to see this. Now when my douchbag friends whip out their iPad, I whip out something even better.
Don't want to be negative, but has anyone seen actual sales figures?
I know they are selling out, but how many were available?
Speaking to physical retailers here in the UK, it looks like each store only received a handful (my local PC World got 5).
I would love to see massive success for this tablet, but at this point it doesn't seem clear whether this is high sales levels or just stock shortages.
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Don't want to be negative, but has anyone seen actual sales figures?
I know they are selling out, but how many were available?
Speaking to physical retailers here in the UK, it looks like each store only received a handful (my local PC World got 5).
I would love to see massive success for this tablet, but at this point it doesn't seem clear whether this is high sales levels or just stock shortages.
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Right - how do we determine high demand if we don't have any idea of how many were available?
Retailers get them in batches, depending on how many they think they can sell so some will have more than others. I seriously doubt a shop like pcworld would only get 5 per store.
The reason they sold so well is because people (not sheep) bought them based on the reputation of the companies selling them and because they were sold at a fair price for what you are getting. The reason some companies spend a fortune on advertising when releasing a facelift of an outdated product, is because they need to convince their sheep that they need to waste another $400.
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It has to be price. A base model iPod touch costs the same, and you get a quality tablet with superb hardware here.
Definitely top notch hardware for budget price.
Jelly bean is smoother than iOS and wp7 believe it or not
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It is selling so well because of one simple thing,
Mass Market Price Point!
Every electronics firm that doesn't rely on image to sell units aims for this holy grail! This is why Sony and Microsoft re-engineer there devices to reduce costs and RR P's because high quality and keen price king!
The fact that the Nexus 7 offers a quality service at an attractive price point is why it is doing so well!
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Jelly bean is smoother than iOS and wp7 believe it or not
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Yep, its great.
Apple used to have the argument of 'we know iOS is boring, can't be customised and is limited in features compared to android, but at least iOS is fast and smooth'
However, JB now makes android fast and smooth, more so than iOS. (Shocked!?)
So, I wonder what excuse is used now
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So, I wonder what excuse is used now
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Isn't it obvious? Last year, Apple told the world about Android fragmentation, and the braindead sheep then repeated this across the internet as if it were fact.
Now Apple has even worse fragmentation problems, that's not talked about anymore, they have now told the world to talk about Android update timescales... And the sheep are telling anyone that wants to listen, how nobody has ICS and so forth...
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Yep, its great.
Apple used to have the argument of 'we know iOS is boring, can't be customised and is limited in features compared to android, but at least iOS is fast and smooth'
However, JB now makes android fast and smooth, more so than iOS. (Shocked!?)
So, I wonder what excuse is used now
No excuse l left so
Now they will sue google/asus for making a smooth operating system
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have you picked up a Xoom and then an N7? One feels like the added lead to it... and it is not the N7...
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Hi there.
I was curious as to whether there was a product like the ClamCase Pro for the N7, or just 7 inch tablets in general. I know they're coming out with one eventually, but it's not available yet.
I know you can hack the Motorola Atrix to work with phones and all that, and possibly the Nexus as well, but am more interested in simply mounting a tablet into a laptop case.
Not sure whether you're still in the market for one or not, but this one from MiniSuit piqued my interest and seems to fit your description pretty nicely:
minisuit[DOT]com/p-1290-bluetooth-keyboard-stand-case-for-google-nexus-7-1st-gen-2012-rubberized-back.aspx
I don't post too often so it won't let me post the full link, but check it out. It beats the folding "rooCASE" I have now, which is a floppy $10 polyurethane nightmare.
Reports are saying they sold 4.5 million in a month (500k less than the note 3). The good news is it was released in most major markets only a week ago (thus skewing the results ). I think this will outsell the note 3 eventually inshalla:angel:
And Verizon, the largest carrier, has just started delivering today. That'll be a good bump. when added in.
Haha because note 4 is the best phablet
Note 4 rocks
I think it will cross Note 3 sales in few months
The numbers will increase once Samsung finally releases it to all the carriers
I agree it Will outsell the note 3
The number sold in the UK probably about 20 the way they are carrying on.
Does anyone know what is the manufacturing cost of each device?
Tech Insights estimates the cost production to 260$ per devices.
not only sold out in the middle east but it seems the us is following the trend too
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...verizon-sprint-att-amazon-best-buy-costco.htm
avenging said:
Reports are saying they sold 4.5 million in a month (500k less than the note 3). The good news is it was released in most major markets only a week ago (thus skewing the results ). I think this will outsell the note 3 eventually inshalla:angel:
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Do you have shares in this company?
I don't think it wil do that well as people are getting fed up of plastic back and touchwiz. It lags and is one of the worst looking ui. Samsung need to get rid of touchwiz otherwise thus will lose more customers.
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Do you have shares in this company?
I don't think it wil do that well as people are getting fed up of plastic back and touchwiz. It lags and is one of the worst looking ui. Samsung need to get rid of touchwiz otherwise thus will lose more customers.
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Totally disagree with you. Plastic back means we can have replaceable batteries. Also I replace the back with a leather Montblanc.cover which in my view is better than nasty metal. Touchviz is needed for multi tasking and S Pen which are unique to Samsung. I get great use and value from all my plastic Note devices. Just sold my HTC M8 as metal is over rated.
^^ way to go to concentrate only on your perceived weaknesses of the note 4 and ignoring the obvious improvements they brought to the table?
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^^ way to go to concentrate only on your perceived weaknesses of the note 4 and ignoring the obvious improvements they brought to the table?
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Come on dude seriously one if the main factors people consider before buying is speed and design and not gimmicky flawed software which perhaps a very small percentage will use. Back in the early days there was only one phablet which was the note 2 and 3 but now the consumer has more to choose from. iPhone 6 plus has taken a massive share of that market with the very successful launch of the iPhone 6 plus. They've pretty much taken the limelight from samsung. Whilst samsung was asleep and being overconfident apple were busy designing and bringing a phone based upon demand.
Carry in this way and samsung will lose more and more customers because they're not being proactive but asleep.
Also with the upcoming nexus 6 samsung will take another hit.
Wow I didn't know apple made big steps with the iPhone 6 plus that they just copied from samsung and is just an oversized iPhone 6 (yes plenty of effort there). If the note 4 took a hit no wonder it's always sold out and people are always looking to buy it
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Come on dude seriously one if the main factors people consider before buying is speed and design and not gimmicky flawed software which perhaps a very small percentage will use. Back in the early days there was only one phablet which was the note 2 and 3 but now the consumer has more to choose from. iPhone 6 plus has taken a massive share of that market with the very successful launch of the iPhone 6 plus. They've pretty much taken the limelight from samsung. Whilst samsung was asleep and being overconfident apple were busy designing and bringing a phone based upon demand.
Carry in this way and samsung will lose more and more customers because they're not being proactive but asleep.
Also with the upcoming nexus 6 samsung will take another hit.
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This is a Note forum. If you don't like the device and don't have anything useful to contribute then create your own complaints and general FUD thread
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This is a Note forum. If you don't like the device and don't have anything useful to contribute then create your own complaints and general FUD thread
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I thought i was contributing to this forum. Is it against the forum to provide more balanced argument then just fan boyish remarks.
Come on guys i wish there were more people providing real comments so.people can make a more informed desicion then get screwed by the marketing, ads, hype, fans etc. Save a buck.
We get it you dont like samsung or lg now can u let us enjoy our notes?
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I thought i was contributing to this forum. Is it against the forum to provide more balanced argument then just fan boyish remarks.
Come on guys i wish there were more people providing real comments so.people can make a more informed desicion then get screwed by the marketing, ads, hype, fans etc. Save a buck.
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Nonsense. Wrong thread for the discussion you want. You make your own thread on your agenda. Don't sabotage someone else's thread.
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I thought i was contributing to this forum. Is it against the forum to provide more balanced argument then just fan boyish remarks.
Come on guys i wish there were more people providing real comments so.people can make a more informed desicion then get screwed by the marketing, ads, hype, fans etc. Save a buck.
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You are providing arguments which might suit a few samsung products, definitely not the note 4
I have been reading up on the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the TF701T. I really would like some advice on helping to decide which way to go. I will list a few questions I have and concerns I have to see if any of you current users can help lead me to a decision.
Thanks in advance.
I know the primary differences between the 2. What I would like to know is has any one had any issues with rooting or putting roms on this? I have a Galaxy S4 and it really made me shy away from Samsung. I will never buy a phone from them that's for sure. Love the power it has and the screen is decent (a little dark) but getting roms on it is a nightmare. I've had a few different Android devices and loved all of them rooting and replacing the roms have been awesome! I just don't want to get one and find out that I'm going to have the same issues I have with my phone now. I realize that phones are different in the respect to the need to have extra protection requested by the phone companies. Thats why I'm reaching out to you to see what your experiences are.
Needs... I need to be able to use a Gumdrop or Otter box case as I have a 2 and 4 year old that will probably be using it at sometime or another. I also need it to have a decent battery life as I will most likely us it for work and play.
Wants... Speed, reliability, durability, Root, Roms, Games, and expand-ability.
I don't care about the stylus so that's not a reason to get this device. I will want a clean rom without all the Samsung garbage that this send with it.
Hope I can get some help with ideas here as I currently have a TF700T and aside from the ram shortage I love it. But time to give that to the kids and get Dad a new tab.
Again thanks for all the incite and opinions.
DrClaw
Have you taken a look at the Samsung Tab S? It has a incredible screen and has better value for money then Note 10.1 IMHO.
This is a really great device.
I don't think feels bulletproof. But maybe that is why its so light. Its kind of like plastic. The TF101 had a more industrial solid state feel like the surface pro.
I doubt this will be over clocked cause it gets warm. It is probably pushing its limits already.
Overall its quite snappy with great performance especially considering its a mobile device.
This is the only android device I know of that features a dock which is like $150 for me which is why I don't have it yet. That would make it feel more complete I guess.
There's no USB 3.0 Port on the tablet. Don't let the ad fool you. If you want that I guess its just with the dock. The tablet part has a micro HDMI port. That's what fooled me cause I thought it was micro USB. But I got the vivo tab extension which is only USB 2.0.
Performance and high resolution and visual quality for games . Not really an issue with rooting it besides potentially having to flush it down the toilet afterwards.
Thanks
Thanks for the advice this gives me more to look in to. I will broaden my horizons to include these 2 tabs. One thing I didn't mention is that I really want the 10" screen so if they don't sport that I'm going elsewhere. I have a smartphone and computer so when I get a new tab it must be 10".
Again Thanks
DrClaw
Claw22000 said:
Thanks for the advice this gives me more to look in to. I will broaden my horizons to include these 2 tabs. One thing I didn't mention is that I really want the 10" screen so if they don't sport that I'm going elsewhere. I have a smartphone and computer so when I get a new tab it must be 10".
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DrClaw
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ASUS and Samsung devices have pretty much the same amount of bloatware, so be prepared to unlock and root whichever you decide for.
If you are a lot into gaming you will get better gaming performance with a 1920x1080 tablet, like the Sony Z2 Tablet, which is a really nice, waterproof, but expensive tablet. Both the Tegra 4 and Snapdragoon 800 isn't always capable to deliver good fps in graphic intense games with the 2560x1600 displays. On the other hand this displays will of course give you a sharper picture when reading or web surfing.
I got my TF701 on a sale out and for the price I paid I think it is a good tablet, especially the prolonged battery life with the keyboard dock, although I have a hard time to get over how cheap it feels compared to my old TF101.
The Samsung Note 10.1 and Tab S 10.5 have one big advantage over the ASUS TF701: they are much more future proof. For an example they have 3 GB ram and 802.11ac wifi. But most important, IMHO, is that they will get an official Lollipop 5.0 update. The TF701 will _probably_ not, since it was not on ASUS list with devices they are going to update. (There is a chance that ASUS haven't decided yet if the TF701 will get the update or not).
The Samsung tablets also have a wider community development support, meaning more custom roms, custom kernels and other tweaks. And having a offical 5.0 update to base custom roms on is a big plus. (There is two versions of the Tab S: Snapdragon vs Exynos, I don't know if there is any difference in community support.)
I have never liked Samsung that much but the Tab S 10.5 is really worth trying out, the OLED display is amazing and it feels small and liteweight compared to the TF701. The Samsung display is also very good in bright conditions or outdoors, while the TF701 have poor brightness.
Still, if you really want a dock with hardware keyboard and external battery and are prepared to not receive any offical updates in the future the TF701 is IMHO a good buy if you can find it really cheap.
again thank you do much for your reply.
I'm going to be researching these tabs over the holiday weekend. Thanks again for all the insight. Just to be more clear games is not the forefront of my purchase. While I will play some games I have a PC gaming rig for that. So just simple games like the ones u aquire on humble bundle.
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I'm going to be researching these tabs over the holiday weekend. Thanks again for all the insight. Just to be more clear games is not the forefront of my purchase. While I will play some games I have a PC gaming rig for that. So just simple games like the ones u aquire on humble bundle.
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I dont play games either anymore, but i had to say XCom is one amazing beast of a game and the new enemy within expansion. I just had to get it for the PC because the art and visual quality is just fantastic. Really a classic with replay value. Not sure it takes full advantage of this hardware. :good:
99% decided.
After listening to many different opinions and watching videos I'm pretty settled on getting the Samsung Galaxy S 10.5. It was suggested I broaden my horizons a bit to include this tab in my research and I'm glad I did. The performance is identical to the 2014 but it has an LED screen giving it a brighter screen darker blacks and a crisper image. It also has a ROM that removes KNOX. This was a major concern for me because of the dislikes I have experienced with my S4 Phone. Gumdrop also makes a case for this and doesn't make one for the TF701T. I love their cases and as long as they are in business I will be purchasing them. Unless the TF701T pulls out some crazy feats in the next few days I will be purchasing the Tab S.
Thanks to all who have offered their opinions and considerations. I really appreciate them all. If anyone has any last note please don't hesitate to add to the pile I will consider more options.
Dr Claw
Can I use my TF700T keyboard with the TF701?
nope
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I have certainly gotten my money's worth out of this $60 Blu R1 HD phone but it has it's own share of annoying issues and we have probably reached the end of its updates.
So I was looking around for possible replacements and what I've seen that looks the most interesting so far is the Xiomi Mi A1. Why? Because it's an official Android One phone so it will get all the updates from google in a timely fashion. They recently had Oreo pushed out. http://www.mi.com/en/mi-a1/
There are many, many reviews on youtube. Also, a lot of people are buying them on amazon and liking them:
https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Android-Cameras-Unlocked-Warranty/dp/B076HQ6FSY The price on amazon has been dropping and is currently down to about $225.
While I'm sure I could get it cheaper from China, buying from amazon has the advantage of making sure you get a model with the right bands and, of course, the easy return policy.
XDA has an active forum and the phone is easy to root and flash: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1
The other phone I considered was the LeEco LePro 3. Why? Because it's on the list of supported phones of LineageOS. It has better specs than the M1 A1, and sells for $190 on amazon. But the company overextended in the U.S. and it's not clear how long they will be producing this phone. It has a custom UI that most people don't like so it's only of interest because it's on the list of LineageOS supported phones.
If you have moved up from the Blu R1 HD, which phone did YOU choose?
I need to go back and look through the list of official Android One phones and see which are available in the U.S. and how much they cost.