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[Q] Alarm doesn't work while phone is off ?

Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys

What do you mean you switch off? Do you lock it or turn it off. Because if you turn off your phone the alarm will not work.
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T3CHW0LF said:
What do you mean you switch off? Do you lock it or turn it off. Because if you turn off your phone the alarm will not work.
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I meant while the mobile is turned off ! no way to turn on the alarm while the mobile is turned off.. I thought it's simple task available in most cheap mobiles though !

zqoot said:
Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys
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Looks like you need to choose, or to wake up or save battery...
No, the alarm doesn't work with the phone OFF

What phone do you have? There could be other issues so let's get all the facts first.
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T3CHW0LF said:
What phone do you have? There could be other issues so let's get all the facts first.
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Well... being in the "LG Optimus 4X HD " I don't think he has a Samsung, iPhone, or any other...

RuedasLocas said:
Well... being in the "LG Optimus 4X HD " I don't think he has a Samsung, iPhone, or any other...
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Sorry I'm using the xda android app and I saw this under latest and decided to help. I didn't see which main forum this thread is from.
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Another "iPhone doesn't have it, so it's not needed" feature, I guess.. :/ too bad, really. It's not extremely difficult to implement a function like that. Or implement something like a standby mode that can be woken up by some system command. Such as an alarm, a preset sync event to a calendar update, an event on a calendar.. Could make the device sleep again after checking as well. Say you'd wake it up every once in a while to check for missed calls (if.. service providers would have ever implemented something like that - you could maybe even let your phone be woken up by a call.. if a system start would take five-ten seconds, connecting through would work), or receive unfetched messages or e-mail from the network, that sort of thing.

zqoot said:
Hi,
Set the alarm at 7:00AM and switched the phone off to save battery. the alarm didn't work. tried again and again. simply doesn't work !!
what is this ?
Thanks guys
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Firstly, this is a QUESTION and should be in the Q&A forum. But anyhoo...
I'm not sure if the OP and a couple of the other posters are trolling or just being deliberately obtuse. Do you REALLY expect your alarm to work when you turn your phone OFF? I know, back in the day some of the simple phones would support this, but it was implemented in hardware. Your phone now requires Android to run - not going to happen when it's turned off.
I want my phone on all the time so people can contact me if they need to. At night it goes into Quiet Hours, so only a phone call or alarm will disturb me. It also only uses about 7% battery overnight, so I can't see the problem with that at all.
As for the comments about the phone waking itself up periodically tipi check on things, that means that it can't actually be fully turned off, and also that will use battery in the first place.
I'm still not sure if I'm being trolled or not... :banghead:

lol. Yeah, back in the day most phones had a function like that. ..pretty much all laptops actually have the same thing, but no one actually use it for anything. Wake from lan-poll, wake from activity on system-bus, wake on software counter. Practically all chipsets have that from ARM boards to the latest desktop motherboards. Different depths of sleep states makes it pretty easy to do implement any amount of functions from that.
The "hardware" poll isn't a whole bunch more complicated than preserving the clock when turning the power off. All phones do that.. keep the clock from stopping after you hit the power.. and literally all phones have a soft switch to turn the phone from that "standby" state to power on state. And that switch can be triggered by a routine on some cmos clock+ module. It's not complicated. For all we know it could be there on the chipset already, it just didn't seem very appealing to anyone to program an app in Android to communicate somehow with the hardware layer outside the Android interfaces.
..I don't know. I have this feeling that in 20 years, when people are asked to program something and the Microsoft tools break - then people can't do it. "Original Code" becomes a religious object that people worship and call the divine wisdom of God, and things like that.. And no, you're not being trolled.

[Q] What does the "Best Wifi Performance" setting actually do?

See subject line.

as you asked wifi is more powerfull

fethi2 said:
as you asked wifi is more powerfull
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I guess I was hoping for a little more detail than that.
More powerful how, precisely? Does it boost the signal strength by pushing more power into the phone's signal? Enable different networking standards? Up-clock the circuitry?
One thing it certainly seems to do is absolutely pulverise the battery; I'd like to know what the trade-off is.

Shasarak said:
One thing it certainly seems to do is absolutely pulverise the battery; I'd like to know what the trade-off is.
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Best WiFi performance, silly
Seriously, I switched it on and off. No difference. ~47Mb/s down, ~15Mb/s up.
I've never got more than 15Mb/s up no matter what settings I use.

in my opinion it is just for signal strength...

Shasarak said:
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Well, there is a similar feature for the Note II and what it does is allow you to hang onto poor wifi connections which will drain more battery so the option is disabled by default.. Maybe that's what it is on the HTC One too??

Anybody using this?
I'm having trouble with my push notifications over wifi (being delayed if the screen is off) and I think it has helped me receive them.
Does it drain much more battery?

Corduroy-21 said:
Anybody using this?
I'm having trouble with my push notifications over wifi (being delayed if the screen is off) and I think it has helped me receive them.
Does it drain much more battery?
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You probably have Sleep Mode turned on in the Power settings. If you use Power Saver, you might have ticked the Data connection box too.

ArmedandDangerous said:
You probably have Sleep Mode turned on in the Power settings. If you use Power Saver, you might have ticked the Data connection box too.
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I've checked them both. Unfortunately not.
And also wifi is on Always On.
That's why I'm trying to find anything else.
3G works fine. I'm not sure if I have the same problem in other wifi networks. One I tried today seemed to work fine.
But I'm checking now whatever option I have.

Shasarak said:
See subject line.
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i tried a speed test and i have to say my wifi download speed did go up from 8.74Mbps to 18.51Mbps.
Give it a try!
PS: I'm impressed
Good luck!!! :good:

[Q] Possibility to disable nfc when screen is off, without root

Background: The Moto X has the potential to be a truly amazing device with Touchless Control. The problem is that for most people, the amount of actions are limited since we have a screen lock.
The Moto Skip (NFC Phone Unlock) has the ability to work around this by placing the phone on top of an NFC dot by the bedside table for example, so we can use Touchless Control when we're lying in bed. But the problem is, the Moto X apparently does periodic NFC pulling even when the screen is off (which is a very unique feature to Moto X only... Most other phones I know do *not* do this).
So the question I have is: Is there a way to automate the phone such that I can disable NFC automatically when I turn my screen off?
I have looked into Tasker as well as Llama, but none of these seem to have the ability to do what I want.
There is the "Secure Settings" plugin that seems plausible as a Tasker plugin, but it requires rooting to toggle NFC (the need for root to toggle NFC feels very odd to me). I'm quite worried about rooting my Moto X, as I'm worried about future OTA updates (to 4.4 for example) failing.
Is there anything I can do to be able to truly use Touchless Control as it's designed to be used? (And not just a gimmick to show off to friends only)
Please help. Thanks.

What would be the purpose of turning NFC off when phone is in standby? The Moto X is specifically designed to be always listening with touchless control (we have a whole core dedicated to it) unless you are trying to save battery, which there are other ways that will have a greater impact then trying to completely reconfigure a core use.
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magicriggs said:
What would be the purpose of turning NFC off when phone is in standby? The Moto X is specifically designed to be always listening with touchless control (we have a whole core dedicated to it) unless you are trying to save battery, which there are other ways that will have a greater impact then trying to completely reconfigure a core use.
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What do you recommend for extending battery life? (Brightness is really the only thing I'm maintaining to extend battery life at the moment)

djdubw said:
What do you recommend for extending battery life? (Brightness is really the only thing I'm maintaining to extend battery life at the moment)
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*If you take a lot of photos adjust photo backups to only backup when plugged to a charger.
*turn off touch sounds and haptic feedback
*limit location services such as Facebook, twitter etc
*uninstall any task manager/ killers
*no need for any running apps such as lookout security etc
*Limit widgets updates
...that's all I can think of at the moment. With my current set up I can easily go all day with no limitations medium/ heavy use.
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magicriggs said:
What would be the purpose of turning NFC off when phone is in standby? The Moto X is specifically designed to be always listening with touchless control (we have a whole core dedicated to it) unless you are trying to save battery, which there are other ways that will have a greater impact then trying to completely reconfigure a core use.
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Sorry, the purpose is not around saving battery life by disabling NFC (As it turns out, the NFC on phones is actually extremely energy efficient, compared to Bluetooth and others).
The purpose is so that I can rest my phone on an NFC dot, and not have the phone constantly waking itself up and light up the screen because the NFC is pulling for tags to unlock the phone even when the screen is off. This can be useful so that I can use Touchless Control without having to enter the password from far away.

lawying said:
Sorry, the purpose is not around saving battery life by disabling NFC (As it turns out, the NFC on phones is actually extremely energy efficient, compared to Bluetooth and others).
The purpose is so that I can rest my phone on an NFC dot, and not have the phone constantly waking itself up and light up the screen because the NFC is pulling for tags to unlock the phone even when the screen is off. This can be useful so that I can use Touchless Control without having to enter the password from far away.
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Ahh I gotcha ya. Yeah I know where you are coming from now. A better "smarter" way to manage NFC when screen is off / near NFC tags. so you don't get accidental wake ups from the tags. Yeah that would be smart.
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magicriggs said:
*If you take a lot of photos adjust photo backups to only backup when plugged to a charger.
*turn off touch sounds and haptic feedback
*limit location services such as Facebook, twitter etc
*uninstall any task manager/ killers
*no need for any running apps such as lookout security etc
*Limit widgets updates
...that's all I can think of at the moment. With my current set up I can easily go all day with no limitations medium/ heavy use.
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Lookout was one of the first Apps recommended to me, do you rly think its unnecessary?

djdubw said:
Lookout was one of the first Apps recommended to me, do you rly think its unnecessary?
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Absolutely worthless if all you're doing is downloading apps from the Play Store.

MajorTankz said:
Absolutely worthless if all you're doing is downloading apps from the Play Store.
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Cool thanks, uninstalled it.

Battery Saving with Deep Sleep Battery Saver

So, I know the whole discussion around task-killers and Android - let's try and avoid that here.
I rediscovered this app last week, I had an old version but it updated from Playstore. I stopped using task killers a long time ago, but I'd forgotten that the approach Deep Sleep Battery Saver takes is slightly different: it makes sure that the phone is REALLY asleep when the screen is off.
Now people have said that it's wake locks clash with Android own.
I went ahead and tried it on the highest setting - slumber - and it's fantastic in both my P7 & P6, and also on my Lg2.
The only thing I have to remember is that when I'm downloading files that take longer than say, 2mins, I have to change my screen-on time to accommodate, otherwise it will stop the download as soon the screen goes off.
I found this is a small thing to remember given the battery savings.
I mean the difference is sooo large I can't tell you.
I put it down to this - we all have a variety of apps on our phones and we really don't know what keeps running in the background.
The Huawei Music app for example, is notorious, as is the Camera ago on the Lg2.
Deep Sleep Battery Saver shuts everything down, period. And it works. I'm absolutely stunned by how much later into the night I can use my phones with a single charge in the morning.
It's a little like GREENIFY but as I don't root my phones anymore, this was a great alternative.
Actually even better is that I don't have to go through my entire list of apps picking and choosing.
I just select SLUMBERER.
The results have been so fantastic on my P6 & P7, that I had to share.
The Lg2 is great with battery WHATEVER you through at it.
The P6 & P7 are gorgeous phones - with anemic batteries...it's always been the case.
With this app, I have discovered a while new sense of respect and use for my P6&P7.
Of course, once your actually using the phone, the drain is as fast as always, it's just that the savings you make in between are phenomenal.
Just saying.
DS Battery Saver can be found FREE on playstore.
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P.S. Oh! Just remember to turn off 'enable logging' in settings-general, leave the 'show persistent notifications' ticked in notifications& language, and turn off ALL the 'battery notifications' in notification& language.
Those are the things responsible for wake-locks.

To save battery it works quite well indeed and I thank you for that. The only tiny issue is that I don't receive the calls anymore, only a text that says that somebody tried to reach me. No ring, no move, just missing calls. I could also turn off my phone to save battery...

goby92 said:
To save battery it works quite well indeed and I thank you for that. The only tiny issue is that I don't receive the calls anymore, only a text that says that somebody tried to reach me. No ring, no move, just missing calls. I could also turn off my phone to save battery...
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I receive ALL my phone calls, ALL my texts, as they are, when they come in, as usual, asap, otherwise what's the point.
My email, Facebook, whatsapp etc comes in soon as I turn on my screen.
The App doesn't touch your ability to make OR receive calls EVER. Something else is going on with you.
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This app is extremely useless once you install an anti-theft program.
When you install this program, programs like Cerberus, Kaspersky Internet Security anti-theft function or Lookout won't work as they should when you lose your phone (and the screen is off).

vEEGAZ said:
This app is extremely useless once you install an anti-theft program.
When you install this program, programs like Cerberus, Kaspersky Internet Security anti-theft function or Lookout won't work as they should when you lose your phone (and the screen is off).
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Yes.
If you're using an always on, anti-theft application, you're not really worried about conserving battery.
This app works if you need to get more life out of your charge.
Alot more.
That's how it works.
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Does it stop alarm clock from working?
I really hope it doesn't...

GawDroid said:
Does it stop alarm clock from working?
I really hope it doesn't...
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No it doesn't actually! The alarm clock over rides everything short of actually switching your phone off... And in some ANDROIDS even this isn't enough.
You'll be awoken, don't worry.
You'll also be amazed at the amount of battery life you suddenly have... I'm loving it! Just don't forget the p.s. end of post #1
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kolembo said:
No it doesn't actually! The alarm clock over rides everything short of actually switching your phone off... And in some ANDROIDS even this isn't enough.
You'll be awoken, don't worry.
You'll also be amazed at the amount of battery life you suddenly have... I'm loving it! Just don't forget the p.s. end of post #1
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Thanks, I can confirm everything is working as intended.

Request: display clocks night mode...

What I would like to have happen is have the clock go into night mode when: wirelessly charging, connected to a specific wifi network, and to start and end at specific times.
I've been messing around with this and can't figure it out for the life of me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Larzzzz82 said:
What I would like to have happen is have the clock go into night mode when: wirelessly charging, connected to a specific wifi network, and to start and end at specific times.
I've been messing around with this and can't figure it out for the life of me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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where exactly are you stuck at?

Basically the whole thing... I created a profile called night mode to turn on and off at certain hours.
In the tasks tab, I've tried to set up the wifi network, but don't see a variable for specifying being connected to it, nor do I see anything for the battery charging wirelessly.
A couple you tube videos later and I'm scratching my head harder.

Larzzzz82 said:
Basically the whole thing... I created a profile called night mode to turn on and off at certain hours.
In the tasks tab, I've tried to set up the wifi network, but don't see a variable for specifying being connected to it, nor do I see anything for the battery charging wirelessly.
A couple you tube videos later and I'm scratching my head harder.
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so for the Wi-Fi part:
- there is the state 'Wi-Fi connected' to activate when you are connected
- you can use 'test net' to store ssid to a variable, then check it for a match with certain ssid, with which you want the profile to react to - only do when connected to certain Wi-Fi.
I don't have wireless charge so I cannot say anything here, but if I remember correctly, recent update of Tasker has included detection of this, so too should bff able to sound something useful in those states or events.
Then finally, in the clock app, you can either try to use intent or simulate taps to switch it to night clock.
After that, hopefully you will be happy with the result

Thank you sir. I will give those a shot

Light dawns on marble head! I got it to work, 98% of what I envisioned.
Is there a way to make this work without having to wake the phone up first? A lot of times, I just place it on the charger.

Larzzzz82 said:
Light dawns on marble head! I got it to work, 98% of what I envisioned.
Is there a way to make this work without having to wake the phone up first? A lot of times, I just place it on the charger.
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what is your solution so far?
for connecting to Wi-Fi, sometimes it does not connect without screen on though, and I still have not figured that out.

Rather than try to explain it, these are my set ups.
Didn't seem to work as I wanted until I added the the, If lines to tasks 2and 3.
Still gotta unlock the phone to start the process though.

Larzzzz82 said:
Rather than try to explain it, these are my set ups.
Didn't seem to work as I wanted until I added the the, If lines to tasks 2and 3.
Still gotta unlock the phone to start the process though.
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did you check to use root in the run shell commands?
Sadly I don't have a solution for the unlocking part.

I did use root. Had to add the if statement at the bottom for. Both tasks are the same aside from the input tap x y numbers
PS.. If I remove the pattern lock, it will work the way I want(ed) it to. Not worth it to do that IMO.
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Larzzzz82 said:
I did use root. Had to add the if statement at the bottom for. Both tasks are the same aside from the input tap x y numbers
PS.. If I remove the pattern lock, it will work the way I want(ed) it to. Not worth it to do that IMO.
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ah the pattern lock! now I see the pattern
do you have Xposed? maybe try to allow clock app over lock screen?

No exposed. Is it out for 7.1.1?
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Larzzzz82 said:
No exposed. Is it out for 7.1.1?
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oh naah....

Seems to stop after the battery is charged... Gotta figure out how to latch the power till the end of the task.