[The Official] VETS Lounge/Resource Center - Off-topic

I created this thread as a way to thank our VETS who are, or have served in a war. (any war). Please show your gratitude here. VETS are also welcome to introduce themselves, and share their stories. ALL military persons are welcome here! Share your stories and have fun. :thumbup: Hooo-Rahh!!
Rules: There is only one rule...Be Respectful. Do not engage in political views, personal debates, or share your opinions about the war, or what our VETS are doing, or have done. This thread is strictly for VETS to introduce themselves, share their stories, and for civilians to show their support and gratitude for their sacrifice and dedication for our country. This rule will be strictly enforced, so please be mindful of this when posting. Thank You.
I'll start...
While I'm not a VET myself, I volunteer for the US Department of Veteran's Affairs as an activities coordinator, where I create activities and companionship for WWII, Korean, Vietnam, and Desert Storm VETS. Most of them are elderly, and facing mortality, suffering from moderate to severe depression, anxiety, and PTSD. Most of them are lonely, so I create activities that cater to their specific wants and needs, which in turn stimulates happiness, and an improved quality of life in their latter years. My wife also works there as a Medical Support Assistant, where she works in the urgent care dept. assisting VETS by addressing health issues, and providing them with the care they so desperately need. We both are very proud of what we do, because it's our way of giving back to those who have lost so much...
"Semper Fidelis"
"This We'll Defend"
"Uno Ab Alto"
"Aim High...Fly-Fight-Win"
"Non Sibi Sed Patriae"
"The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday"
"Always Ready; Always There"
"Semper Paratus"
"Sua Sponte"
Veterans Crisis Line: (800)-273-8255
US Dept. of Veterans Affairs: http://www.va.gov/
Outreach Support Groups for VETS: http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/pages/peer_support_groups.asp
http://www.veteransoutreachcenter.org/?mobile=1
Survivors of Fallen VETS Support Group: http://m.nrd.gov/family_and_caregiver_support/survivors/survivor_organizations
Disabled Veteran's National Foundation: http://www.dvnf.org/?nomobile=1
Suffering from PTSD? Download this free app for Android. PTSD Coach is a mobile app for managing PTSD.
http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/pages/ptsdcoach.asp
It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
Adapt and Overcome!
Freedom is never Free...
UPDATE: I have decided to alao make this thread a resource center. I will regularly add info such as resources, hotlines, outreach, and anything the VETS need. All feedback is welcome, and I will gladly add anything you all feel should be here.
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As an OIF VET (07-08) I approve of this thread.
I got out as a Sgt in the Marine Corps. Thanks for the support you are showing the troops PeartFan.

VERY good thread idea Peart. I live close to Camp Pendelton Marine Base, and I see our service men and women every day. Each and every one of them deserves a nod. Past and present service members equal.

StormMcCloud said:
As an OIF VET (07-08) I approve of this thread.
I got out as a Sgt in the Marine Corps. Thanks for the support you are showing the troops PeartFan.
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Thank you for your sacrfice serving our country. :thumbup::beer: Freedom is never free.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
VERY good thread idea Peart. I live close to Camp Pendelton Marine Base, and I see our service men and women every day. Each and every one of them deserves a nod. Past and present service members equal.
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Thanks Skinny. There's never enough we could do to thank them. Thanks for posting brother! :thumbup:
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PeartFan40 said:
Thanks Skinny. There's never enough we could do to thank them. Thanks for posting brother! :thumbup:
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One of my biggest regrets, but that's for another thread.
I praise our soldiers.
Good luck to this thread, I hope to see some posts here in the morning.

To the top. I want people to see this.
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OIF veteran
Former Marine SGT. servedmy tour of duty as a reservist dployed to Iraq in 2007-2008. all in all it was an awesome experience. Deployed with some very amazing people. Everyone i left with came home happy and healthy. I understand some others are not as lucky and my heart goes out to them and thier families.
One thing i have never asked for and never will ask for is a thank you. But to anyone feeling as if they need to do so, i will tell you it was a pleasure and if things in my life hadnt changed significantly for me after my return home I would still be humbly serving our nation.
Semper Fi
Yeah its a Marine thing but its also a life thing.
Also another note. I was a weather observer a profession which is now phased out. Now they only have weather forcasters and I was an air wing Marine on Al Asad air base. So my experiences may vary greatly from the larger group of my brothers and sisters who also served.

ODS Vet here.
Hats off to all of the other vets here and the OP!!
The war I was in was nothing compared to what other vets have endured.

Pshh... Marines... sorry but it's all about the Navy! Lol. USS Russell DDG-59 in the good ole Pineapple Navy. Pearl Harbor
(The Marines comment is a joke people just in case it offends anyone.)
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Pshh... Marines... sorry but it's all about the Navy! Lol. USS Russell DDG-59 in the good ole Pineapple Navy. Pearl Harbor
(The Marines comment is a joke people just in case it offends anyone.)
if you're using a D2VZW and are on an AOSP ROM. disable HW overlays in dev options and stop clogging threads about your screen flickers.
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Pssh you guys are just our water taxis.

StormMcCloud said:
Pssh you guys are just our water taxis.
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Edited: Ball busting is acceptable amoung the VETS.
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PeartFan40 said:
OK OK men, let's not and say we did. This is getting away from the purpose of this thread. A little ball-busting is ok, but please keep it in check. :beer::thumbup:
Thank You.
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We know, lol, simple light jokes like the ones we just said are always meant in good fun. It's rare to find someone who will take them seriously. :good:

PeartFan40 said:
OK OK men, let's not and say we did. This is getting away from the purpose of this thread. A little ball-busting is ok, but please keep it in check. :beer::thumbup:
Thank You.
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The jabbing is normal comradery among the branches.
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85gallon said:
The jabbing is normal comradery among the branches.
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OK...I digress...carry on as you were..I don't want to interfere in your normal comradery. The Moderator in me took over for a second.
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StormMcCloud said:
As an OIF VET (07-08) I approve of this thread.
I got out as a Sgt in the Marine Corps. Thanks for the support you are showing the troops PeartFan.
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What does OIF mean?
85gallon said:
ODS Vet here.
Hats off to all of the other vets here and the OP!!
The war I was in was nothing compared to what other vets have endured.
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What does ODS mean?
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PeartFan40 said:
What does OIF mean?
What does ODS mean?
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OIF = Operation Iraqi Freedom

I'll just leave this here.
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Well what do we have here....
First, OP thx for this thread....as a Marine who served 20+ yrs on active duty. Always finding a fellow jarhead in these XDA threads is Good to Go! Been retired now for 5 yrs...
Keep in mind, in today's military it is a purple world. Meaning joint services and even with the UN peace keepers.
I have had the Honor of serving and spilling the same blood with almost all branches of the Military.
Semper Fi and my deepest respect to all who have and still wearing the uniform. Those individuals know what it takes...
I get asked would I go back to active duty if the USMC asked....in a heart beat, without hesitation.
Thx again Danny for your support to us Veterans and as always Good to Go!

faehsemc said:
Pshh... Marines... sorry but it's all about the Navy! Lol. USS Russell DDG-59 in the good ole Pineapple Navy. Pearl Harbor
(The Marines comment is a joke people just in case it offends anyone.)
if you're using a D2VZW and are on an AOSP ROM. disable HW overlays in dev options and stop clogging threads about your screen flickers.
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StormMcCloud said:
Pssh you guys are just our water taxis.
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That's hilarious! You guys travelled by land and water? All they gave me was a drop zone and a parachute
U.S. Army, Airborne 13B
Field Artillery
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The Sports Thread

Exactly what it states.............SPORTS THREAD...here you can talk about any sport you want....much needed here as we had one at PPCG....migration is a must!!
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Thread reopened.
Any more childish bickering will result in this thread being closed permanently. I don't want that and I'm sure you don't want that. If someone starts being aggressive, report them and the ignore them. Public arguing was what got this thread closed - not the actions of any one person.
We're all friends here, so let's keep it that way
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The Doctor is in !
mr8820 said:
The Doctor is in !
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Nice!! Now we need the rest of the crew!!! I sent invites out....
How bout chicharito in manchester??
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How bout chicharito in manchester??
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Anything you want bro....its wide open!!
In.
My teams:
NFL: Miami Dolphins
NBA: Miami Heat
NCAA: Miami Hurricanes
MLB: Tampa Bay Ray
You can see a pattern here...Lol.
Well I wanna talk about the stupidity of American "football".
You see, most of the time, American "football" is being thrown and then held with the hand, and only perhaps 3% of the time it is being kicked.
On top of that the "ball" is not round. Ask any child to draw a ball and the poor child will be hard pressed (or an American idiot) to draw something that resembles that egg.
Thirdly, there is that issue of machismo that the Americans like to push. Yeah, you run around bashing people in a full contact sport. Ever heard of rugby? Those guys only wear groin protectors and tooth protectors. Not a padding more.
Suck it, American "Football"!
/This does not, in any way, bash Americans, only their version of football
//The rest of the world would like the word football back.
///Call it Handegg if you want to, otherwise you are just as asinine with your language as the Brits, who like to add an "o" in colour. (Yes, I'm Brit Eng educated. Blame the basterds who conquered us)
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Well I wanna talk about the stupidity of American "football".
You see, most of the time, American "football" is being thrown and then held with the hand, and only perhaps 3% of the time it is being kicked.
On top of that the "ball" is not round. Ask any child to draw a ball and the poor child will be hard pressed (or an American idiot) to draw something that resembles that egg.
Thirdly, there is that issue of machismo that the Americans like to push. Yeah, you run around bashing people in a full contact sport. Ever heard of rugby? Those guys only wear groin protectors and tooth protectors. Not a padding more.
Suck it, American "Football"!
/This does not, in any way, bash Americans, only their version of football
//The rest of the world would like the word football back.
///Call it Handegg if you want to, otherwise you are just as asinine with your language as the Brits, who like to add an "o" in colour. (Yes, I'm Brit Eng educated. Blame the basterds who conquered us)
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Thanks for this...now everyone that comes and reads this thread is going to be just a tad bit dumber after reading that jibberish....
BTW the pads are what break bones....lmfao...you guys keep wearing skirts and we will continue to play real football....
And a Rugby ball is round???
Suck it soccer boys..
Oh and this retort is in now way a bash on the Bristish....just the dumb things that come out of their mouths at times....
BTW here in the great old USA...we use this thing called a dictionary...pretty self explanatory and makes your theory dead wrong in both defintions....
http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=football&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=ball&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
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EuroSpeed said:
In.
My teams:
NFL: Miami Dolphins
NBA: Miami Heat
NCAA: Miami Hurricanes
MLB: Tampa Bay Ray
You can see a pattern here...Lol.
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Carla and you are going to get along real well when she gets here...try not to mention the Heat a lot to the Dr...he is still mad about that guy that left Cleveland to Miami....
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Present! Reppin' the Dallas Cowboys, Washington Wizards, Washington Capitals, Washington Nationals, and THE University of Ohio State Buckeyes!
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Present! Reppin' the Dallas Cowboys, Washington Wizards, Washington Capitals, Washington Nationals, and THE University of Ohio State Buckeyes!
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Yea,yea we know.....lol.....glad to see ya made it...guess I should put mine out
UM wolverines (all sports)
Philidelphia Flyers
Oakland Raiders
Tigers
Pistons....don't follow NBA as much as I used to though..
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flyers2114 said:
Thanks for this...now everyone that comes and reads this thread is going to be just a tad bit dumber after reading that jibberish....
BTW the pads are what break bones....lmfao...you guys keep wearing skirts and we will continue to play real football....
And a Rugby ball is round???
Suck it soccer boys..
Oh and this retort is in now way a bash on the Bristish....just the dumb things that come out of their mouths at times....
BTW here in the great old USA...we use this thing called a dictionary...pretty self explanatory and makes your theory dead wrong in both defintions....
http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=football&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=ball&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
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wikipedia said:
The game of football is any of several similar team sports, of similar origins which involve, to varying degrees, kicking a ball with the foot in an attempt to score a goal. The most popular of these sports worldwide is association football, more commonly known as just "football" or "soccer". Unqualified, the word football applies to whichever form of football is the most popular in the regional context in which the word appears, including American football, Australian rules football, Canadian football, Gaelic football, rugby league, rugby union and other related games. These variations are known as "codes."
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^emphasis mine
I'll keep on troll-baiting, but the game is a bit hard to lose, isn't it?
Oh, and your links suck. They both say the same thing for me (or are they region-based?)
p/s: Keep it down. I'm just kidding, and you don't have to take offense
pp/s: But you did.
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^emphasis mine
I'll keep on troll-baiting, but the game is a bit hard to lose, isn't it?
Oh, and your links suck. They both say the same thing for me (or are they region-based?)
p/s: Keep it down. I'm just kidding, and you don't have to take offense
pp/s: But you did.
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Ok... link fail...but you could have easily punched it in...I always take offense....I have played hockey my whole life..and played football for 10....hahahahaha
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Ok... link fail...but you could have easily punched it in...I always take offense....I have played hockey my whole life..and played football for 10....hahahahaha
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Punch it in myself? And deprive the entire XDA of the comedic humour? I just copied the link and there it was
Speaking of football! Congratulations to the Green Bay Packers!
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Enough of this jibberish, let's get back on track. Lol.
I say Packers take it again next year. They are only going to get healthier, many of their star players will be back next year.
I think Patriots will make it from the AFC.
EuroSpeed said:
Enough of this jibberish, let's get back on track. Lol.
I say Packers take it again next year. They are only going to get healthier, many of their star players will be back next year.
I think Patriots will make it from the AFC.
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Its to early for me to predict....off season moves and we shall see....Pack are tough....that's why I picked them vs Indy last preseason...I always make a preseason SB pick...
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I'm just hoping my Cleveland Cavs get a win .
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...i did not know Terrell Owens was in any given Sunday...
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Drummers of XDA

This is an open discussion for drummers, about drummers, and drums/percussion in general. Please follow forum rules, and let's talk drums!
A tad bit about myself:
I'm 35 years old and I have been playing drums since I was 7 years old. My parents noticed that I was taking an interest in music, and my dad was always interested in the drums since he was a boy.
I took to it fairly quickly, and since MTV was brand new at the time, I finally got to SEE drummers playing.
My first real drumming idol was Tommy Lee from Motley Crue. I evolved into the kind of youngster that looked at every style of drumming, just in case.
But it was Rock/Metal that always got my adrenaline going. So at age 11, I joined my first band. We covered Kiss songs. Pretty basic stuff, but I loved Kiss for how over the top they seemed when I was a kid. Thinking back, it really helped me with my timing. Solid and minimal is always a good starting point. Flair can come later.
So I made kind of a career out of it. I never stopped playing, even into adulthood. I tried to always be a student of the instrument, though I was self-taught.
I stayed the course, played in some really cool bands, and I got to do things that not many people get to do. I wasn't famous, but I've had a few close calls. I developed a love for the lifestyle of playing rock n roll music for a living, yet somehow I managed to meet a wonderful woman, marry her, stay married for 10 years now. She also birthed my two amazingly beautiful daughters.
Being a drummer isn't the best business decision one could make, but I play drums because I love rhythm, I love the conditioning, I love the brainwork, I love how drums look, and I hope I can play til the day I die.
Lastly, my equipment preferences are as follows:
DW drums and hardware. Sabian Cymbals, Rock n Soc furniture, and any wood tip drumstick longer than 16". If you know what I mean .
So anyway...I really hope there are enough drummers here to make use of this topic. I am very difficult to offend, so I'm not going to be a stickler for content. Anything goes, as long as you follow the rules of XDA.
Thanks for giving your time to reading this.
Here's a dirty shot of my kit. Oops, no cymbals in these.
18x26 kick, 9x13 rack Tom, 13x16 and 16x18 floor Tom, Pork Pie 6.5x14 Big Black snare, 10x14 1976 Pearl marching snare.
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I'm quite handy with a drum machine.... I'm guessing that doesn't count though...
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conantroutman said:
I'm quite handy with a drum machine.... I'm guessing that doesn't count though...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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You have no soul mmmwwwwaaaaahhhhhh ahaha!
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You have no soul mmmwwwwaaaaahhhhhh ahaha!
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I've got soul......
And I'm superbad.....
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I'm 42 and started playing at the age of 10. Parents signed me up with the Royal Comumbians Drum and Bugle Corps back in the early 80's. There were 65 of us, and we were a force to be reckoned with. We competed nationally, and were state and national champions 12 times over. Those of you familiar with drum corp training, know how incredibly precise it is. Stick height, posture, timing, attack, and execution were all part of our training. We also marched in tons of parades as the guest of honor. Including our local parade, know as the Holyoke St. Patrick's Day Parade, which is known world wide.
We were undefeated national champions for several years. Corp of the year...We were a well oiled machine. Today, I don't play as much, with all the surgery I'm dealing with. In my day, I was unbeatable. And as you can tell by my username, Neil Peart has, and always will be my idol. Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Vinnie and Carmine Appice, Max Roach...I can go on and and on.
Below are a few pictures of our actual drum corp; I am in most of them. I've also included a youtube video of the stylenof drumming we did. Very technical and very precise. If you've seen the movie Drum Line, that's what we did.
Youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ3yPbCICRg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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<THOR> said:
I have a 2 ludwig and 2 set of cymbals ufip bionic and zildjian A custom and i play the drum from 9-10 years, the drum is the best instrument
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Apparently you have no idea what a bass is
I have an Alesis SR18 that i need to learn how to program pronto.
Haven't cracked open the manual yet, but already annoyed that percussion sound levels are supposed to rise and fall depending on how hard you hit the pads, but my volume levels don't change.
TravisBean said:
I have an Alesis SR18 that i need to learn how to program pronto.
Haven't cracked open the manual yet, but already annoyed that percussion sound levels are supposed to rise and fall depending on how hard you hit the pads, but my volume levels don't change.
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Wonka meme: So you're a drummer? Tell me how hard it is to push all those buttons...
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Wonka meme: So you're a drummer? Tell me how hard it is to push all those buttons...
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Sorry, you are limited to 8 thanks per day
TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Wonka meme: So you're a drummer? Tell me how hard it is to push all those buttons...
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Wonka meme: So you're a drummer? Tell me how hard it is to push all those buttons...
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You have my heartfelt sympathies that percussionists were the first victims of "lets replace the musician with a little black box" syndrome.
I'm not suggesting the SR18 is an adequate substitute for a live drummer, but sometimes (due to space/noise level constraints) it'll just have to do.
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This is an open discussion for drummers, about drummers, and drums/percussion in general. Please follow forum rules, and let's talk drums!
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I believe that the programming of drum computers would fall under the category of "percussion in general," so therefore I felt it wasn't out of place to mention the glitch in my SR18.
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TravisBean said:
You have my heartfelt sympathies that percussionists were the first victims of "lets replace the musician with a little black box" syndrome.
I'm not suggesting the SR18 is an adequate substitute for a live drummer, but sometimes (due to space/noise level constraints) it'll just have to do.
I believe that the programming of drum computers would fall under the category of "percussion in general," so therefore I felt it wasn't out of place to mention the glitch in my SR18.
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You're absolutely right. And you've proved another common theory about drummers...most of them can't take criticism.
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You're aware that I play several instruments (albeit rather badly) right??
Don't be trolling me boy....
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Having also gone through the process of school bands, wanabee bands, club bands, tribute bands and generally annoying friends, family & neighbours for many years, I was 'invalided out' following an motorbike accident a few years back involving me & a mad old hag in a car, somewhat similar to Pete de Freitas without the death thing; while I've happily made it back aboard several more Fireblades since then, bashing bongos is no longer an option
Drumpads, Sequencers & Synths are about the only way I can commune with the tub-thumper lurking inside, these days... Anyway, here's something to cheer you's all up, I hope.... (staying on topic means I have to be self-deprecating to the craft ). I know you've heard them all b4...
Q. What's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?
A. You only have to punch the information into the drum machine once.
Q. How do you tell if the stage is level?
A. The drummer is drooling from both sides of his mouth.
Q. How can you tell a drummer's at the door?
A. The knocking speeds up.
Q. What's the last thing a drummer says in a band?
A. "Hey, how about we try one of my songs?"
An Indian chief and a cavalry captain climb to the top of a tall hill and look out upon the entire Indian tribe. The captain says worriedly, "I don't like the sound of those drums." The chief says, "I know. It's not our regular drummer."
Q. What do you call a drummer that breaks up with his girlfriend?
A. Homeless.
Q. What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?
A. They both suck without Cream.
Q. How many drummers does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. Five: One to screw the bulb in, and four to talk about how much better Neil Peart could've done it.
An amateur drummer died and went to heaven. He was waiting outside the pearly gates when he heard the most incredible fast and furious drumming coming from within. Immediately he recognized the playing and rushed to ask St. Peter if that was Buddy Rich playing drums inside the gates. St. Peter responded: "No, that's God. He just thinks he's Buddy Rich."
Q. What does a drummer use for contraception?
A. His personality.
Q. What do you say to a drummer in a three-piece suit?
A. "Will the defendant please rise?"
Q. "Hey buddy, how late does the band play?"
A. "Oh, about half a beat behind the drummer."
Q. How is a drum solo like a sneeze?
A. You know it's coming, but there's nothing you can do about it.
Q. What's the first thing a drummer says when he moves to LA?
A. "Would you like fries with that, sir?
Q. What is the difference between a drummer and a savings bond?
A. One will mature and make money.
Q. Why do drummers have lots of kids?
A. They're not so good at the thythm method.
Q. What did the drummer say to the band leader?
A. "Do you want me to play too fast or too slow?"
Q. What do you call someone who hangs around with musicians?
A. A drummer.
Q. What did the drummer get on his IQ test?
A. Drool.
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Q. What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?
A. They both suck without Cream.
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Pop Tarantula said:
Q. What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?
A. They both suck without Cream.
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You're aware that I play several instruments (albeit rather badly) right??
Don't be trolling me boy....
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Piciotti: huggs /// Ronnie498 /// a.cid /// undercover /// Sleepy! /// cascabel /// Apex
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Special Position: Bringer of bacon: Rinzo
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Probationary members list:
Mephikun
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K.A.
Temp. permission to fluffy muffins from the Χ.Δ.Α. frat. Only 1/time. If they want more, they have to apply for probies
What's the deal with probationary members? It's simple. Not official Mafia members yet, but able to post in here for the time being. They may be upgraded to members, or have their priviledge lifted any time without notice [/FONT]​
Ok. It seems like some people have misunderstood the way we work, so I'll make it clear.
Why do we want members?
The Gli started as a place for a friendly and *private* chat for OT people. It wasn't made open, because we didn't want any trouble. The Gli follow the rules of this forum and that's why no trolls and spammers are tolerated. That's why a member list was needed, to protect the members from any abuse and of course help to get to know each other.
What does it take for someone to be a member? Why are you so elitists?
We are not elitists by any means. Someone, in order to get accepted as a member has to fulfill some requirements. Among others, he has to cause no trouble in the forum and also be active in the thread. Another important requirement, is to "fit" in the Gli atmosphere. We are a close group, so each one has to follow that, otherwise he has no place in here ( what's the point of having people here who can't understand what we say and we can't understand what they say? ). We are more than a team, we are a family.
Um.. and the probationary members? Why do you need that? I want to be a regular member NAO!
Probationary members didn't exist until recently. There were incidents of people joining the Gli, being active for a while and then disappearing completely without notice! That's why we made that list. Probationary members have to prove that they are part of the Gli, by staying active in the thread without causing issues for at least 3 months. Then, they will be upgraded into regular members, and get the permission to have the Gli logo on their signature, as they will be official members.
:'( I failed to become a probationary member. Now what?
If such thing happened, don't worry. That means that you didn't fulfill all the requirements. You are free to apply again after a while, and go through the procedure again. If and when the Recruit Team feels like you are ready, you will be added in the crew . When reviewing people for Gli membership, we always make sure that they fit the environment and their attitude suits the rest of the Gli, so make sure you fulfill that. If you don't, then please don't bother applying again.
Recruit Team? Who is reviewing me? I want to plant bombs on their houses!
You can see the Recruit Team members in the OP. Next to their regular Member title, they will have the RT flag.
The topic says " Don't post in here if you aren't listed in the OP". Why are you such discriminatory bastards? Ι just want to hang out!
Recently, we have been flooded with many people posting in the thread, without even introducing themselves and causing massive headache to anyone reading the thread. We had to constrain that spamming mayhem, so that topic was required. If you are genuinely interested into being a part of the Gli, you may post, but please be conservative in the amount of your posts until you receive a notice about your Gli membership
I want to post ponies. Who do I bribe to get in the Members list?
Glad you asked. Drop a PM here and we'll get back to you
The Don​
Okay, so you've got a shiny new thread to play with now. You all know the reason I did this. I appreciate that you see it as "your space", but it's not - it's everyone's space. You all know well enough that it's easy to offend people, especially if they're not part of your crowd. So do show courtesy to other members by remembering the fact that strangers may wander in here, and please stick to the rules.
I don't want to be all "nasty mod" on you, but it won't be cleaned for the same reason again. I think you get my meaning.
Now play nicely everyone, and have fun
Welcome back, mafia
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Okay, so you've got a shiny new thread to play with now. You all know the reason I did this. I appreciate that you see it as "your space", but it's not - it's everyone's space. You all know well enough that it's easy to offend people, especially if they're not part of your crowd. So do show courtesy to other members by remembering the fact that strangers may wander in here, and please stick to the rules.
I don't want to be all "nasty mod" on you, but it won't be cleaned for the same reason again. I think you get my meaning.
Now play nicely everyone, and have fun
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Thanks archer. We will be good.
Hickory, Dickory, Dox...Snowflake approves of my HOX....
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Thanks archer. We will be good.
Hickory, Dickory, Dox...Snowflake approves of my HOX....
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We'll try, at least
How's everyone doing?
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boborone said:
wow, cleaned thread is cleaned
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Better than cleaned, brand new, didn't lose any posts, not that it really matters.
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boborone said:
wow, cleaned thread is cleaned
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As they say in Firefly, shiny
Archer said:
As they say in Firefly, shiny
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You talking about the tv show? Never seen it, but I just got the 10th anniversary box set. Hope it's as good as all the nerds make it out to be.
Hey a whole new Gli thread. Sweet !
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You talking about the tv show? Never seen it, but I just got the 10th anniversary box set. Hope it's as good as all the nerds make it out to be.
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It's good. I just started watching it a few weeks ago.
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It's good. I just started watching it a few weeks ago.
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Cool, It's like the only nerd cult following show I haven't seen.
Oi all,
So...new thread means new levels of awesome.
It's over 9000!
This is kinda funny. Half the new posts in here are from people on my ignore list. trolololulz
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Cool, It's like the only nerd cult following show I haven't seen.
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It is very good, and nerdy as hell. I watched the film, Serenity, before Firefly but I'd recommend the other way round. Awesome film - I rate it as Joss Whedon at his best.
And we're back, shiny new thread is shiny
"The reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live."

The Furry Thread

This thread is for furries, or anyone else to just post, have fun, and hang out. :3
No trolling please...
What is a furry? Well, Urban Dictionary defines it as...
There is no one single definition of what a furry is. Even within the furry fandom, people cannot always agree on just what makes a person a furry or not.
Some would argue that to be a furry, you must think and talk like one (i.e. use furry specific words and phrases). Even if you go to conventions, wear a fursuit, draw the art, writes the stories etc but don't talk using furry lingo, you're not a furry. Basically, someone that may walk the walk but doesn’t talk the talk.
Others would argue that even liking anthropomorphic creatures makes you a furry. You may have no idea the furry fandom exists or have ever heard of a furry convention, let alone any of the websites; simply liking 'anthro' critters makes you a furry.
The way I see it, if or if you don’t consider yourself a furry is a matter of personal opinion.
As with any hobby, most furries are normal people just like anyone you'll meet at work/school or going to/from work/school or anywhere. Then there is the small percent that are hard core fans and have taken what for most is a hobby and perverted it (sometimes in an all to literal sense).
As is with so many other things in life, the few that take it too far tend to be the loudest. The silent majority are often forced into silence by the loud majority for fear that people will label them as being in the same class as the minority that have perverted it.
One unfortunate side effect of the internet and the relative anonymity that some sites grant their users is people are able to engage in activities (even if only on a virtual level) that they would never even consider doing in real life. An example of this is trolls of message boards that say things to people they’d never say to them in person. I think a lot of the stereotypes associated with furries are because of this.
In conclusion, as with any hobby, there are some furries that have taken it too far and/or perverted what for many is a fun harmless hobby.
If only the silent majority were not so silent, people would realise there is more to furries then perversion.
Any questions, feel free to ask.
Reserved...
Gonna take this spot, just in case.
I'd recommend the definition from WikiFur, it's a lot more comprehensive. Give it a read: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/What_is_Furry
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Hey (^_^)/
Umm... Am not interested in "furry" , just wanted to say good luck with the thread.
BTW, Are not pronies a part of furry ?
I don't have much knowledge about this... But from my view I see them pretty alike.
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Hey (^_^)/
Umm... Am not interested in "furry" , just wanted to say good luck with the thread.
BTW, Are not pronies a part of furry ?
I don't have much knowledge about this... But from my view I see them pretty alike.
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It depends on your point of view. In a way, ponies are anthropomorphic animals, which some consider to be the definition of what a furry is. However, they're also different, and the furry fandom is gigantic compared to the brony fandom.
If you search it, I'm sure you'll find many people discussing the subject better than I can.
I was a furry though before I became a brony, which is why I'm here.
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Nice thread IT BETTER STAY OR I WILL KILL A KITTEN!
Jk but there's no reason for this to get deleted because us bronies have a thread so should furries.
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L: Whatever you say, I'm still taking your cake.
This thread needs MOAR pics
Just say'in
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-Emilie Autumn
hanisod said:
This thread needs MOAR pics
Just say'in
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"It gives me strength to have somebody to fight for; I can never fight for myself, but, for others, I can kill."
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Oh hoho... I can solve that. How many pictures per post is too many?
Also, I'm guessing XDA guidelines don't allow for saucy/suggestive imagery? No rule 34 here, I don't keep that stuff on any of my devices.
Here, I guess I'll start with five.
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Oh hoho... I can solve that. How many pictures per post is too many?
Also, I'm guessing XDA guidelines don't allow for saucy/suggestive imagery? No rule 34 here, I don't keep that stuff on any of my devices.
Here, I guess I'll start with five.
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I love the first and the last one ?
Also, I have Tapatalk Pro and I posted more than 30 pics in a post. Theeeeeeen Crapatalk crashed ?
Nice ones
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I love the first and the last one ?
Also, I have Tapatalk Pro and I posted more than 30 pics in a post. Theeeeeeen Crapatalk crashed ?
Nice ones
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LOL. I also have Pro.
I'm just wary of spamming the thread. I gave hundreds more, but they're on my phone and I'm (hopefully obvious from the signature) on my tablet.
I'll post more later.
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Glad this thread has some posts.... @[email protected] Some posts are nicer than others, mind you...
But, what can ya expect?
Here we go. I got hundreds more on this device.
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☝☝☝ Not bad ?
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Off topic in the off topic thread. @[email protected] lol
But yeah, what the mod said :3
Not trying to be rude or anything >~>
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Question of the day!
How old were you when you became a furry?
If you're not a furry, when did you find out about the fandom?
If you don't know what it is......... Well...... Just no moar irl cat pics please ;3
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LyricWulf said:
Question of the day!
How old were you when you became a furry?
If you're not a furry, when did you find out about the fandom?
If you don't know what it is......... Well...... Just no moar irl cat pics please ;3
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Alright, all right, lol.
Hmm... Let's see here... There wasn't really a specific day I could just mark on my calendar and say "this is the day I became a furry".
All I know is that Krystal from Star Fox eventually led me to the fandom. Prior to that my favourite furry character was Sonic the Hedgehog, I used to play as many games (though never finished them) as I could, watched Sonic X every Saturday morning (on Fox Box and then 4Kids TV) and read the comic as much as possible. Sadly I've fallen out of all that, though I still love the Sonic franchise. I see his latest games as more of a desperate push by Sega to try and stay alive though.
So, yeah. No specific date here. I'd say that I was between 13 and 15 when I discovered the furry fandom and decided I was a part of it.
Sorry Everyone,
But too much spamming is too much spamming. I removed the posts that I considered trolling of the thread.
Sorry especially to the OP.
Thanks and thread closed.

[MOD][4.4.4] Xperia Bootanimations "Je suis Charlie" - Purple & Green

For universal freedom of expression, and refusal of barbarism.
"Je suis Charlie"
Just flash the mod via recovery. Purple (stock) or green.
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Nice bro @nreuge
Respect for this ^^
Terrible what happend there but the good news is: Anonymous hacked the islam jihad site of them like fb/youtube/twitter and the rest will follow ^^
Sorry that was kinda OT
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44 downloads, 44 Charlie here !
Yes you are all Charlie all of time...
But I am not because they did disrespect my prophet and muslims. This mod is completely a provocation...
One last thing the greatest is only Allah.
Allah sees everything...

			
				
I have deleted a couple of posts here. Remember we do not permit religious discussion here and politics can get very messy too.
For now I have left a couple of posts for "balance" but here stops the discussion of the different sides regarding politics/religion.
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MikeChannon said:
I have deleted a couple of posts here. Remember we do not permit religious discussion here and politics can get very messy too.
For now I have left a couple of posts for "balance" but here stops the discussion of the different sides regarding politics/religion.
Mike
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Thank you so much, this is better for us...
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wow this is very meainingful photo.We should say that we are against the terrorism.All religions are only for peace and for making Peoples happy.Dont forget that.Our enemies are not islam or another religion.Respect please all religions.
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wow this is very meainingful photo.We should say that we are against the terrorism.All religions are only for peace and for making Peoples happy.Dont forget that.Our enemies are not islam or another religion.Respect please all religions.
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Exaxtly and i totally agree with that bro @gamzekal
Bad people make an own group like IS and murder other neutral people, to sad that those things happen in the world and i asked myself everday... Why must is this happening
Just respect eachother and thier choises in which religion they believe and we life then in peace and harmony and not what is going on now in the world, the news here in the Netherlands is that terrorist will attack us also soon -__-
But this thread is getting now whole OT btw.
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Yes, but think to Freedom of Expression. This is what means "Je suis Charlie".
There is no hate in Charlie's caricatures, just laugh. Sad that some people take them as hate or don't accept laugh.
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Yes, but think to Freedom of Expression. This is what means "Je suis Charlie".
There is no hate in Charlie's caricatures, just laugh. Sad that some people take them as hate or don't accept laugh.
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If a whole community is not accepting something then better avoid it (specially the things related to religion) , there are millions of other things which can be used to laugh upon, why only the things which are hurting someone's sentiments (`someone` here is a whole community).
Just a thought..
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Your thought is welcome.
Charlie does laugh about millions of things.
And nobody is forced to buy this paper...
I'm not a religious person but I think we should learn to respect the convictions of others.
I just don't think the public mocking of revered religious figures is a good idea. Not even under the banner of free speech. I wouldn't walk up to a stranger on the streets and just insult him using free speech as a defence.
I think we all need to take a step back and do some soul searching here. It's a question of responsibility and respect for each other. Free speech yes but everything has boundaries. In some countries like Germany, people are prosecuted for denying the holocaust.
Having said that, murdering people in cold blood can never be a justifiable response to offence. Too many people are just being driven into the hands of insane fanatics constituting a very mad brigade hell bent on insanity. We shouldn't be doing things that swell the numbers of this mad brigade but unfortunately acts like deliberately ridiculing revered icons does exactly that. Free speech in my opinion isn't a good justification for this. Especially when it's just for a laugh. Not worth the trouble it causes at all and I look forward to the day when this is realised.
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I'm not a religious person but I think we should learn to respect the convictions of others.
I just don't think the public mocking of revered religious figures is a good idea. Not even under the banner of free speech. I wouldn't walk up to a stranger on the streets and just insult him using free speech as a defence.
I think we all need to take a step back and do some soul searching here. It's a question of responsibility and respect for each other. Free speech yes but everything has boundaries. In some countries like Germany, people are prosecuted for denying the holocaust.
Having said that, murdering people in cold blood can never be a justifiable response to offence. Too many people are just being driven into the hands of insane fanatics constituting a very mad brigade hell bent on insanity. We shouldn't be doing things that swell the numbers of this mad brigade but unfortunately acts like deliberately ridiculing revered icons does exactly that. Free speech in my opinion isn't a good justification for this. Especially when it's just for a laugh. Not worth the trouble it causes at all and I look forward to the day when this is realised.
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Thanks mate! you gave proper words to my thoughts, happy to know that i am not the only one with this type of thinking.
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Thanks mate! you gave proper words to my thoughts, happy to know that i am not the only one with this type of thinking.
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No sir you are not the only one. In the face of the sort of murderous carnage we saw on the streets of Paris, it's just human nature to rally behind the victims of such an atrocity.
We all as human beings have more in common than not. We just need to tolerate our subtle differences a bit more.
The men made mad who carried out the attacks are no more representative of Islam as the IRA were of catholics. They just use religion as a rallying call to recruit disillusioned and disaffected young men and women to their cause which is purely political in motive. We need to stop elevating them to the point were they're now considered a threat to our world. They do not and cannot threaten our way of life. What with kalasnikovs, RPGs and improvised explosives? Can they really pose a real threat to the west who've got armies armed to the hilt with the most advanced weaponry including a vast arsenal of nuclear weapons?
These fanatics are no more than a nuisance. A deadly irritation and we all need to confine them to their tiny little box where they belong rather than elevating them to a threat to our way of life. They're are not that and will never be that. They should be treated like the rag tag bunch of lunatics they are. By waging a war on terror against them, all we do is play right into their hands giving them the publicity they desperately crave to recruit more lost souls to their insane agenda. This needs to stop. They're murderous criminals and that's how we should see them. Vermin that need to be crushed by special forces wherever they are. Starting with Saudi Arabia!
We just need to be a bit more realistic in our thinking. Lofty ideals are great but they should always be tempered by the situation on the ground.
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The Humanity doesn't depend on where you live or which language you speak or what you wear or what religious you have.The Humanity depends on who you are.The Humanity means don't discrimination between yourself and others.
There is no superior race.
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The Humanity doesn't depend on where you live or which language you speak or what you wear or what religious you have.The Humanity depends on who you are.The Humanity means don't discrimination between yourself and others.
There is no superior race.
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And no superior beliefs. Secularism is good because it allows all peacefull beliefs.
when you talk terrorism so please dont put ISLAM in the same sentence , and charlie made million laugh by disrespecting our PROPHET (pbuh) but he hurt billions of us , you have freedom of speech but you dont have to hurt others by it and religion is very personal thing , keep your ''freedom of speech in limits'' and don't miss use it''
pw1nce said:
when you talk terrorism so please dont put ISLAM in the same sentence , and charlie made million laugh by disrespecting our PROPHET (pbuh) but he hurt billions of us , you have freedom of speech but you dont have to hurt others by it and religion is very personal thing , keep your ''freedom of speech in limits'' and don't miss use it''
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No religious discussion is allowed here.
However, I would say you this: your prophet said, if some people disrespect me and Islam, just ignore them...
Discuss in a pm further about religions because this Thread is gonna now whole offtopic and it is just a bootanimation... a really nice one ^^
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