Nexus 4 or Xperia T/TL - Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V

Hi all.
So I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. My intent has been to cancel my VZW contract and buy an unlocked Nexus device, back when rumors were that we would see multiple Nexus devices from Sony, HTC, Samsung, and LG.
When the Xperia range was announced I was extremely impressed and was holding out hopes for an Xperia Nexus.
With everything announced about the Nexus 4, I am not entirely convinced it's the device I want. I have a Nexus 7 so I'll have the benefit of the newest Android version on release, but I wanted to know if the developer support of the T or TL would be active enough to get Cyanogen Mod or AOKP updates timely? I can live without a Nexus phone if I can expect a new CM or AOKP build within a month or two, but not if I have to rely entirely on Sony for updates.
What do you think? Should I pick up the T or TL? How is the dev support for each?
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TL will have a locked bootloader
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If you are not a Sony fan like me then definitely Nexus 4!

Id say dev community for the newest xperia phone isn't too strong look at the xperia ion or S ..
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I'll be switching phone to the Asus Padfone 2 or Galaxy Note 2.
But I am really interested in the LG Nexus 4 as it's really a cheaper than most of the high ends phone in the UK anyways (£399). Only downside is 16gb, if they released a 32gb, i'll defo get it!

Totally happy with the unbranded T though. Best phone I've owned
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Thank you all form the candid advice. I'm a bit disappointed - had my heart set on a Sony Nexus, love their hardware design, but it looks like I'll be picking up the Nexus 4. Looks rather uninspiring, but maybe it will win me over in person.
Thanks for the advice!
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Just for everyone expecting a Sony Nexus, they said at IFA that it'd be extremely (extremely) unlikely for them to release one. On the hardware side Sony's profit margin on the Xperia's is rather low and they're pushing their services and integration with other Sony products really hard (Music Unlimited, Video Unlimited, PlayMemories, PS Suite, Sony Select app store, ...).
Releasing a Sony Nexus at a sharp price would mean a pretty much complete lack of Sony's strong points: their ecosystem and their software.
For me especially Sony's software is a major selling point for their phones. Sure, it's not the latest Android version, but who the hell cares? The things Sony adds on top of a clean AOSP build are so much better than a few version jumps. You get the best music player available for Android by far (Walkman), an awesome camera UI, a skin that looks nice without getting boring (unlike AOSP Android), a totally epic Album application and I can go on. Everything Sony's done in their software builds is really nice and provides a lot of value over a clean Android in my opinion.
But it's your decision of course. If you prefer AOSP over Sony's Android then by all means go for a Nexus, you'll love it!

In reality you can not make your final decision till you see the actual Nexus phones in Google' upcoming event which was cancelled? If I recall correctly, we were suppose to have few nexus phones this year? Or, Google said that Vanilla android in more devices?
Anyways, only reason I choose all Nexus family on Sony or other devices is their update time and more development but I have never been impressed by their design and I hope that Sony picks on a Nexus phone with Vanilla android and Google supports it. You call it anything you like.

papped said:
Totally happy with the unbranded T though. Best phone I've owned
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Completely agree, and this is my first Sony. Primarily held HTC devices in the past.
Also, the Nexus 4 is basically the LG phone, which would scare the hell out of me right away. I had an LG G2x, and had is not a strong enough word to describe how quickly I dropped it. My daughter uses it now, and I feel sorry for her.

Hi all,
Believe me, I am wary of LG and have not had good hardware experience with them through any friends phones, and designs are uninspiring. I will reserve judgement until I see it in person, but I may just buy a GSM GNex and dump my VZW contract if I don't find it satisfactory.
I am turned off of anything on Verizon due to their lengthy update delays and horrible battery life from CDMA. I feel that their delays are deliberate and made in their own interest - which they are well within their rights to do, but I can also take my money elsewhere. The VZW logo on the GNote just reinforces it.
I love AOSP Android, and CyanogenMod/AOKP customization, and run it on my N7, GNex, and GS2 on ATT.
But -I love Sony's hardware design, specs, and build quality - and I could live without having AOSP from Google the moment it was released, as long as it has decent dev support and CM10/AOKP devs working on it with prompt release. This is really the only thing holding me back from jumping on the Sony wagon, I just feel they have a huge missed opportunity by not wanting to release a Nexus.
A locked bootloader is a no-go for me - especially as I intend to buy it SIM unlocked.
I wouldn't mind Sony pushing their Xperia stuff and ecosystem, as long as they had quick release of drivers/binaries to allow dev support. But if its not there, I can't buy it.
I suppose I have to hold out hope that the LG is not as bad as it looks or as I expect.
Fingers crossed!
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Get the Nexus 4. £280 for the 16GB. Really! That's the cheapest high-end phone i've seen to date!

I never thought I would even consider owning a LG product in my life. Google has changed it for me!!!! Damn, I will miss Sony phones until they catch up in keeping us with latest OS updates or comes with extraordinary design and build quality.

Note that the nexus 4 will not have LTE. It pretty much has everything else but LTE.
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DdcCabuslay said:
Note that the nexus 4 will not have LTE. It pretty much has everything else but LTE.
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Also no sdcard

MrPhilo said:
Get the Nexus 4. £280 for the 16GB. Really! That's the cheapest high-end phone i've seen to date!
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... it's an LG. Mention of questionable build quality out of Sony really baffles me at this point, I've had both LG and HTC, and the Sony blows them away, IMHO of course.

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... it's an LG. Mention of questionable build quality out of Sony really baffles me at this point, I've had both LG and HTC, and the Sony blows them away, IMHO of course.
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Not even the fact that it's LG, just the price they are asking versus the specs... The low price had to come from somewhere... It's not like they're selling it at a loss or anything.

On the dev support thing. CM10 support is now official. After the new milestone aokp will be asked to add it. Paranoid android is official. Any other ROMs that you are interested in?
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tilal6991 said:
On the dev support thing. CM10 support is now official. After the new milestone aokp will be asked to add it. Paranoid android is official. Any other ROMs that you are interested in?
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Thats great news.
Official cyanogenmod "mint" page is here

I'm not touching xperia tl. Was dying from it's found a while but, low dev support and locked bootloaders is a deal breaker for me.
If I'm going to be stuck with outdated android versions it may as we have quad core potential.
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Sony should manufacture the next Google Nexus Phone

They say Jellybean update will focus on gaming. Im thinking about that PLaystation certified phone with a quadcore Processor, 4.65 inches screen, 12 megapixels and 2 megapixels front facing camera that can both carry 1080p video capture make sense here.
Im sure Sony will be a legit contender to be the next google nexus phone. It also sounds great if you gonna put the name "SONY XPERIA NEXUS"
any technical infoarmation new sony experia ?
Well if they want it to use yesterday's hardware and launch with an old Android version with a promise of an update after launch. </sarcasm>
If Sony get chosen for Nexus 4, what is certain is that it will be prettier.
The new Sony Experia (No Ericsson anymore) looks great, and i guess sony makes quality products but i think Samsung is one of the biggest leaders on high-end performance/quality basis and i think the next Nexus will be Samsung too... but who knows!
Sony would be a good option i think, rather than HTC. They also have good cameras and are developing a new sensor for smartphones that will do great.
considering Google owns Moto mobile now, wouldn't the next Nexus phone be a Moto?
Hey
I think you're forgetting that Google now owns Motorola. Btw they already announced at CES that Google, Motorola, and Intel are working on the next one. It's going to be sweet!
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Intratech said:
Well if they want it to use yesterday's hardware and launch with an old Android version with a promise of an update after launch. </sarcasm>
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Exactly why I don't want Sony to make my phones anymore. Seems the only thing they keep up to date nowadays is their camera line. Although who knows, they might make an up-to-date Android phone this year. Not the Google flagship though.
True about the Motorola, it'll be interesting. But idk if it should have intel processor... oh well.
No, no, and no. A Sony Nexus would not be good for a nexus device whatsoever. PlayStation Certified? That would be just great to separate it from every other stock android device. And it would be great to delay updates. Sure Sony has great hardware, but it feels overall cheap. I'd rather take Samsung for nexus again than Sony. If the next android update does by chance have something to do with gaming, Google will want it to tie in with the rest of the operating system. Games would sync just as gmail and contacts do. Also, Sony never has been good with stock android. The Verizon Xperia Play was supposedly stock, but we all know that Sony has already turned its back on it. So in my opinion, Sony would do as much for a Nexus as some company like Viewsonic.
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They say Jellybean update will focus on gaming. Im thinking about that PLaystation certified phone with a quadcore Processor, 4.65 inches screen, 12 megapixels and 2 megapixels front facing camera that can both carry 1080p video capture make sense here.
Im sure Sony will be a legit contender to be the next google nexus phone. It also sounds great if you gonna put the name "SONY XPERIA NEXUS"
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NO.
Sony wouldn't be a good contender until they decide to use OLED screens for their phones. It's considered a downgrade if the 'Xperia Nexus' uses an LCD.
Eh. Not a fan of Sony's design. The face buttons on the Xperia Arc look terrible.
They're the only android OEMs making attractive hardware.
Its so ugly. It reminds me of my 2006 ps3, but slightly thinner.
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Livewings said:
NO.
Sony wouldn't be a good contender until they decide to use OLED screens for their phones. It's considered a downgrade if the 'Xperia Nexus' uses an LCD.
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Agreed i am in love with the SAMOLEDHD screen on my Nexus and i can't imagine using a plane jane LCD on a high end device.
anyone should develop next nexus other than samsung LOL IMHO
I would cry out in joy if HTC got to make the next Nexus phone, as they rightfully should.
yep
i agree, as long as sony applies themselves they can really crank out some AWESOME stuff. example: ps3
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I would cry out in joy if HTC got to make the next Nexus phone, as they rightfully should.
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Yeah HTC or Samsung would be the best choice imo. Though HTC does like to recycle the same designs over and over again.
Everyone deserves a chance. Sony should do it.
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red12355 said:
Yeah HTC or Samsung would be the best choice imo. Though HTC does like to recycle the same designs over and over again.
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Samsung is just as bad if not worse.

Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-
For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.
The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.
I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.
manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
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barondebxl said:
Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.
Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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Advice: which phone to buy (inc non HTC)

Hi,
I am looking forward to buying a new phone (Android). For my currently owned HTC IncS, I am quite satisfied the way custom ROM have turned up. Well, that would remain one of the major criteria for my new phone as well.
Currently I have Samsung Galaxy SIII in mind but I also need advice on which phones are likely to be 'alive' in terms of development around new Android releases, etc.
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I'm waiting for the butterfly. Expected launch in India is this month.....
Dead cookies leave no trails...
Htc m7 is going to be quite good
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IT depends on what you are interested, screen, nfc, lte...
IDK if samsung has already published the new lte versione of s3 with 2gb ram...
Samsung's end phone has s-amoled display, you'll have to adapt yourself because the difference in colour is huge from out phone ( in worse or better it's personal)
Personally I would like to buy the nexus 4 (best quality/price, but soo much difficult to obtain). time by time I've appreciated android aosp over sense ...
M7 should be a great choose but it's too soon to talk about it...
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Hi,
I am looking forward to buying a new phone (Android). For my currently owned HTC IncS, I am quite satisfied the way custom ROM have turned up. Well, that would remain one of the major criteria for my new phone as well.
Currently I have Samsung Galaxy SIII in mind but I also need advice on which phones are likely to be 'alive' in terms of development around new Android releases, etc.
Note: I searched for other similar topics but none touch on this area
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Well the note 2 is a great device as long as size isn't an issue...
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If you could wait for HTC M7, it's gonna be new flagship phone of HTC. But if you want to buy a phone right now, I suggest Samsung Note 2. One of my friends has that one and it is wonderful. Smooth, fast and graphically outstanding phone.
Just tried out the Nexus 4 yesterday... Holy sh*t!! What an awesome piece of joy!
M7 will probably rock also I'm not sure about Sense 5 though....
SG S IV is coming – with the new ROMs keeping us going for a bit longer on Inc S, this might also be a contender for potential upgraders.
I would consider another thing when buying a new phone: HOW u get s-off'ed or rooted...
I would prefer to root using a bug and "not" voiding warranty, rather than ask asus or htc to unlock my phone and say goodbye to warranty...
I was using Incredible S too until last month when I finally got the Nexus 4. For this price, nothing much can beat Nexus 4 at this moment. The only complain I have is I wish the screen can be bigger......
I played with the HTC Butterfly last week in Taiwan during a business trip. Wasn't very impressed......
I would think in terms of development, SGIII would be a safe choice, although I think Nexus phones are the best in terms of the amount of active and future development since they are the first to get OS updates. The only thing that stops me from getting one is the lack of a removable battery and Microsd storage, which are things I don't want to go without. If those things are important to you, I'd probably go for the SGIII. Just my 2 cents anyway
Xperia Z especially if you are up to serious customisation since Sony is being very very kind to devs now.
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I'm waiting for the HTC M7
but I have been eye-ing off the Nexus 4,
Thanks for so many suggestions.. really appreciate..
so the final list (so far) I can see is Xperia Z, SGIII/IV, NoteII..
From my past experiences, Sony's phones are terrible!
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Hi,
Can you list down a few aspects you did not like? Will give me some perspective..
TaLEntZ96 said:
From my past experiences, Sony's phones are terrible!
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Nexus 4 all the way if you can manage to get it for 300$ anyhow !! Nothing really beats this phone in any aspect at this price tag !! If I have unlimited data plan + Dropbox acc then it's ok for the lack of storage. So basically no cons at all
And about the all glass design get some cover and you will be ok.
Nexus 4 = amazing display + amazing camera + amazing hardware + updates + amazing design + premium feel (not cheap plastic s**t ) and a lot of ram ... and many more
What can you hope for more in a smartphone??
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From my past experiences, Sony's phones are terrible!
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would love to hear this as well since the xperia series rised i havent heared people complaign besides of the mini series (cheap small ones)
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The way the phones are built for example - I don't like the look of the phones or the way the buttons are set out.
The software and overlay I also don't like.
There's more than just this ^ however when I test the flagship models of Samsung, HTC, Sony and LG, I just don't get the same feel from the Sony and LG as the HTC and Samsung.
But like I said, I just haven't had good experiences with sonys. Saying this though, i haven't used the new Sony phones so they may have stepped up!
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thanks a lot.. my friend has recently purchased a SONY phone which included Bravia engine and it was smooth like anything..
even the screen look and feel was amazing..
TaLEntZ96 said:
The way the phones are built for example - I don't like the look of the phones or the way the buttons are set out.
The software and overlay I also don't like.
There's more than just this ^ however when I test the flagship models of Samsung, HTC, Sony and LG, I just don't get the same feel from the Sony and LG as the HTC and Samsung.
But like I said, I just haven't had good experiences with sonys. Saying this though, i haven't used the new Sony phones so they may have stepped up!
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Annoying opinion question!

I am about to commit myself to yet another contract and coming from the arc, Which I've been more than happy with I think I'm going to go for the Z.
Now I've read countless threads about pros/cons but all in all, should I look towards the HTC one or even s4... Not a big fan of either but I want my contracts worth out of the phone!
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I am about to commit myself to yet another contract and coming from the arc, Which I've been more than happy with I think I'm going to go for the Z.
Now I've read countless threads about pros/cons but all in all, should I look towards the HTC one or even s4... Not a big fan of either but I want my contracts worth out of the phone!
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They are all 3 great phones, they all have pro's and cons it doesn't matter which of the 3 you choose they are all good phones that are worth your money.
Since you're in a Sony section and since you come from the arc, I'd say go for the Xperia Z, you really won't regret it.
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boyob32 said:
I am about to commit myself to yet another contract and coming from the arc, Which I've been more than happy with I think I'm going to go for the Z.
Now I've read countless threads about pros/cons but all in all, should I look towards the HTC one or even s4... Not a big fan of either but I want my contracts worth out of the phone!
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technically i suggest for htc or Sony
and cause htc One got delay report it means htc couldn't do so well
SO for nowadays Xperia Z can be ur Zing
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If you use your phone for light tasks and not allot, XZ with stamina mode will make you through days.
HTC one camera will be very useful if your pics r taken in lowlight condition.
As for Sammy, I think they do as Apple do in every good and bad way.
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I like my Xperia Z a lot, but the specs of the HTC One sure are very sexy.
Galaxy S is not my type of phone, it is okay but I prefer the Xperia Z above that one for sure.
Kind regards, Stefan.
Thanks all. Pretty much helped confirm what I already thought.
Although specs of others are looking stronger in areas, I like the quality build and theming of Sony, plus coming from the arc, I know that it will be readily modifiable.
I have come from HTC, and so glad I did. Much more functionality within the Sony phone.
USB Host, Throw, screen mirror connect and display to my tv, laptop... out of the box. Syncing/backing up any parts of your phone/micro SD to PC, none of which exists on any of my HTC devices.
Walkman app with custom eq, blows away any of HTC beats phones for sound quality.
Theming is not Sony's strong suit on this phone, much more customisable with HTC, especially like the grey bars...
IMO, HTC build quality is probably the best out there and always has been. And the release to public OS is more stable and has less issues, eg WIFI, initial setup quirks. But I also think that Sony may have rushed this out to market before the other big guns released there flagship phones for 2013, hence some of what I mentioned about the OS.
Buy the Sony, I am sure you won't regret it. I am happy with almost all aspects of the Xperia Z.
Since your current phone is the Xperia Arc, which is the same generation as my previous phone (the LG Optimus 2X), you might get the same experience that I had. Personally, I am blown away by this phone.
You're on XDA so I am assuming you are fond of the idea of good development support from the manufacturers. This means no to the S4. The S2, 3 note and note 2 are prime examples that samsung exynos devices are more or less the worst thing for development. If you are happy on stock roms then it might be allright.. but then again their stock roms are pretty awful, buggy and laggy. Not to mention the super brick bug.
I wouldn't dream of saying don't get the htc one as I think it should be great. It simply wasn't what I was after (namely water resistance and larger screen).
Development is important to me, I have gone through more roms, kernels and phone brickings that i ever thought I would, and yet the phone is still in one piece!
I am a big fan of Sony phones, despite various issues but then I suppose all phones have flaws...
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It depends, from the sound of it, it looks like you're getting the Z on contract which means you can't unlock the bootloader. Whether or not that is an issue is up to you.
That being said I absolutely love the stock software on my phone as it is. I'm a flashaholic and I haven't even unlocked the bootloader yet! I only rooted it to remove the charging notification.
Sony have really stepped up their game with the Z in terms of both hardware and software. It just works, simple. There are a few bugs but they aren't major and hopefully they'll be fixed shortly.

What made YOU choose Nexus 4?

What made you choose this device instead of others? Will you select your next smartphone based on the same criteria or do you care more about some other spec?
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The reason I chose my N4 was that it was a nexus device with awesome specs and a great price... U can't get a better bang for the buck phone.
My next phone has to be top end in specs and also at a good price point compared to the competition... Idk of it'll be N5 or X phone but I don't think I'll get rid of my N4 regardless
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Clean android, photosphere and updates. Hardware whatever, I dont feel any big performance difference when using s3, note 2, s4, nexus 4 etc ...
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Mainly the specs and price, similar specs unlocked cost 600$+
Also I had a Galaxy ****phone with 2010 specs
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pure google experience and match it with my nexus 7. both have nexus logo at the back. i like my stuff in-sync. haha. also, apps are designed mainly to match the stock look, so having the dev phone is awesome. less problem thinking on why this app not working/supported cuz dev use nexus mainly.
plus its cheap. and design rocks!
I needed some more performance since my HTC Incredible S got a bit slow with only one core. I didn't want to spend 200 € more for a branded interface that I would replace with another ROM anyway. With the N4 I have great performance, solid quality and a clean ANdroid which I don't have to replace keeping my warranty.
Just ordered a black N4 (don't get the white phone craze). My faithful Nexus S no longer meets my needs. My main reasons for the 4 are:
Unlocked
A Nexus device, so hopefully will have current updates for a while
Good price, extra features of S4 not important to me, especially for almost twice the cost
Only thing I don't like is the screen size. 4" screen perfect for me, kept holding out for a top end 4.3" android. And yes, I've used bigger phones. After I saw the S4 mini specs I gave up, guess I'll get used to it. Anyhow, given I wear reading glasses now its probably a good thing?
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Price and just how rubbish Sony were at supporting the Xperia S threw me over the edge.
Former Verizon user. Saw the price of the N4. Knew I'd make my money back within 4 months after switching to T-Mobile. Broken contract. Win.
I came from the LG G2X and all I wanted was a damn OS update. With the only update the G2X ever received being a whopping 2.3 to 2.4 I decided I'd stay away from non nexus devices the best I could. The build quality from LG is pretty nice, good balance between appearance and hand feel so I never once questioned that the N4 would be the perfect phone for me. What do I look for in a phone? Top tier performance and the quickest OS updates.
2gb ram for this awesome price
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In this order:
1. Unlocked
2. Nexus
3. Top flight phone for $350, how could you resist?
Loving it on straight talk. I love the phone almost as much as the fact that my bill is half what it was before.
One of my main reasons for choosing the N4 is knowing this phone will get updates for a long time from google but others are:
Build quality.
Price point for a unlocked phone.
Amount of development.
AOSP
Price (seriously, extremely great value)
Customization, Google WANTS you to flash new ROMs and stuff to this device
I'm an aspiring Android developer (currently a .NET developer)
The sleek look
Came from iPhone 4, my only other smartphone I've ever owned. Basically debated whether to get the Nexus 4 or SGS4, thank god I went with Nexus 4. Had to switch from Verizon, but well worth it. No more Verizon red tape to deal with ever again, or any contracts.
Stories said:
Former Verizon user. Saw the price of the N4. Knew I'd make my money back within 4 months after switching to T-Mobile. Broken contract. Win.
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If you arent on a contracted plan with T-Mobile, unless you are on the $30 plan with no minutes, consider one of the MNVOs. Im on Straight Talk after trying T-Mobile for a bit and the service is IDENTICAL. However, the bill from unlimited plan to unlimited plan isnt.
Cheap and decent specs. That's all.
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AOSP
Price (seriously, extremely great value)
Customization, Google WANTS you to flash new ROMs and stuff to this device
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This.
After flashing cm7, then cm9 and 10 on my Fascinate, I realized AOSP is how Android phones are supposed to be. I love the clean interface, speed and smoothness and stability. My phone after that was the Gnex, so naturally I upgraded to the next nexus. I know there are AOSP roms on a ton of other phones, but the reliability seems to be perfected on the nexus devices, since they are built for AOSP. Also, there is a huge amount of developer support.
needed something after my N9 and really didn't want to go back to a locked down phone.
I bought the N4 due to the price, pure android and the ability to enable LTE on T-Mobile. I couldn't be happier coming from Sprint. It's a night and day difference.

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