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LG Optimus 2X: first Android dual-core smartphone

Figured might as well start a thread on this. Looks like fantastic specs
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/
How about 1080p video recording and micro SD slot for starters....and dual core of course..
I wouldn't touch a Nexus S with a ten foot pole now...
The next 'Nexus" better have some real specs, Google!!!

Old MuckenMire said:
Figured might as well start a thread on this. Looks like fantastic specs
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/
How about 1080p video recording and micro SD slot for starters....and dual core of course..
I wouldn't touch a Nexus S with a ten foot pole now...
The next 'Nexus" better have some real specs, Google!!!
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I'm with you. No point in the NS at all.
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I agree... The Nexus S is so... Not worthy of being the predecessor to the Nexus One! The Nexus was ahead of its time.
Google is using gingerbread as a selling point and all the Nexus S is, is their new cash cow. Bull ****!
Dual core is the future.
Personally, i'll be waiting for an i7 processor before i buy my next smartphone
Kidding. But seriously though "Nexus S stands for sucky". lol

Those are great specs...The NS doesn't come close! I'm waiting for HTC to do something grand...

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I'm with you. No point in the NS at all.
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The only thing NS has going for it is first updates, but here's the thing: if this LG were to come out on AT&T in 2011(which it could), even skinned, I'd take it over the NS all day long, and wait to see what the "next Nexus" has to offer in late 2011. I want something that's truly an upgrade to play with before I give up my N1 and something like this LG would be the ticket.

I tried to jump on the NS ship... it's hard with the Galaxy s2, Optimus2x, playstation phone and the olympus all coming soon..

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The only thing NS has going for it is first updates, but here's the thing: if this LG were to come out on AT&T in 2011(which it could), even skinned, I'd take it over the NS all day long, and wait to see what the "next Nexus" has to offer in late 2011. I want something that's truly an upgrade to play with before I give up my N1 and something like this LG would be the ticket.
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As long as I can root and sideload, I agree. I'm rooted but otherwise stock now, and with the LG I'd have a reason to flash custom ROMs. The NS isn't much of an upgrade. This LG certainly is. Can't wait to see what else is announced soon.
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This is more like it can't wait to see more phones like this hopefully it will really start hotting up mid year. Then it will be time to get my wallet out

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As long as I can root and sideload, I agree.
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That's true, having a Nexus One on AT&T, I always take side-downloading for granted.
Surely developers here at XDA would hook us up one way or another

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That's true, having a Nexus One on AT&T, I always take side-downloading for granted.
Surely developers here at XDA would hook us up one way or another
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Undoubtedly. You and I are really rather fortunate to have such a fine android experience on AT&T. As I also own two Captivates, I'm regulalry reminded of this small blessing. Subsequently, I much prefer unlocked phones
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What do you think of the new Moto we're waiting for an official announcement on? Haven't read much on it, just curious how you feel it compares to this LG.
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haven't read much about it either...this LG is the first to get my real attention given the potential for AT&T compatibility

So it will be available in late jan 2011 in asia? this is the real deal,this is exactly how i feel when i bought a true game changer in Nexus 1
Just hoping that ces 2011 will have more devices like this.

My only comment is: can this really be considered a smartphone? Or as LG would say "or is it something better?"
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Have to say this is the first one that has piqued any real post n1 interest for me so far, the ns barely garnered a glance. Like others I see this as just the first of an unknown number of dual core smartphones that should be announced soon and I will have to weigh in the merits of those devices as well. Whatever I choose a good portion of my purchasing decision will be based on the amount of support here. Beats any OEM update schedule.

Device looks awesome. I see it is a LCD screen. No comment on the type. Black levels seem crappy. I'm really spoiled by AMOLED.
I'm sure the device looks crisper and deeper in person. The screenshots looked make the phone look dull.

Now thats Nexus-like
Doesn't say what screen technology is used, hope its OLED

yeah i'm not feeling the screen,it looks kind of washed out but it makes up for it with everything else

Samsung seems to want to hold us all hostage with the AMOLED screen. We may need to get used to S-LCD if we want to get away from their cheap build quality, etc..
I'd rather have AMOLED than LCD, but not at the cost of everything else..
If it takes going with LCD to get the next Nexus made by, for instance, HTC, I can live with that. Especially if it's an HD screen

Yawp im just waiting on an HTC device with those kinda specs! Until then I will prolly cop a Nexus S just cause and end up selling it or giving it to my lil bro..
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Nexus 4 or Xperia T/TL

Hi all.
So I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. My intent has been to cancel my VZW contract and buy an unlocked Nexus device, back when rumors were that we would see multiple Nexus devices from Sony, HTC, Samsung, and LG.
When the Xperia range was announced I was extremely impressed and was holding out hopes for an Xperia Nexus.
With everything announced about the Nexus 4, I am not entirely convinced it's the device I want. I have a Nexus 7 so I'll have the benefit of the newest Android version on release, but I wanted to know if the developer support of the T or TL would be active enough to get Cyanogen Mod or AOKP updates timely? I can live without a Nexus phone if I can expect a new CM or AOKP build within a month or two, but not if I have to rely entirely on Sony for updates.
What do you think? Should I pick up the T or TL? How is the dev support for each?
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TL will have a locked bootloader
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If you are not a Sony fan like me then definitely Nexus 4!

Id say dev community for the newest xperia phone isn't too strong look at the xperia ion or S ..
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I'll be switching phone to the Asus Padfone 2 or Galaxy Note 2.
But I am really interested in the LG Nexus 4 as it's really a cheaper than most of the high ends phone in the UK anyways (£399). Only downside is 16gb, if they released a 32gb, i'll defo get it!

Totally happy with the unbranded T though. Best phone I've owned
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Thank you all form the candid advice. I'm a bit disappointed - had my heart set on a Sony Nexus, love their hardware design, but it looks like I'll be picking up the Nexus 4. Looks rather uninspiring, but maybe it will win me over in person.
Thanks for the advice!
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Just for everyone expecting a Sony Nexus, they said at IFA that it'd be extremely (extremely) unlikely for them to release one. On the hardware side Sony's profit margin on the Xperia's is rather low and they're pushing their services and integration with other Sony products really hard (Music Unlimited, Video Unlimited, PlayMemories, PS Suite, Sony Select app store, ...).
Releasing a Sony Nexus at a sharp price would mean a pretty much complete lack of Sony's strong points: their ecosystem and their software.
For me especially Sony's software is a major selling point for their phones. Sure, it's not the latest Android version, but who the hell cares? The things Sony adds on top of a clean AOSP build are so much better than a few version jumps. You get the best music player available for Android by far (Walkman), an awesome camera UI, a skin that looks nice without getting boring (unlike AOSP Android), a totally epic Album application and I can go on. Everything Sony's done in their software builds is really nice and provides a lot of value over a clean Android in my opinion.
But it's your decision of course. If you prefer AOSP over Sony's Android then by all means go for a Nexus, you'll love it!

In reality you can not make your final decision till you see the actual Nexus phones in Google' upcoming event which was cancelled? If I recall correctly, we were suppose to have few nexus phones this year? Or, Google said that Vanilla android in more devices?
Anyways, only reason I choose all Nexus family on Sony or other devices is their update time and more development but I have never been impressed by their design and I hope that Sony picks on a Nexus phone with Vanilla android and Google supports it. You call it anything you like.

papped said:
Totally happy with the unbranded T though. Best phone I've owned
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Completely agree, and this is my first Sony. Primarily held HTC devices in the past.
Also, the Nexus 4 is basically the LG phone, which would scare the hell out of me right away. I had an LG G2x, and had is not a strong enough word to describe how quickly I dropped it. My daughter uses it now, and I feel sorry for her.

Hi all,
Believe me, I am wary of LG and have not had good hardware experience with them through any friends phones, and designs are uninspiring. I will reserve judgement until I see it in person, but I may just buy a GSM GNex and dump my VZW contract if I don't find it satisfactory.
I am turned off of anything on Verizon due to their lengthy update delays and horrible battery life from CDMA. I feel that their delays are deliberate and made in their own interest - which they are well within their rights to do, but I can also take my money elsewhere. The VZW logo on the GNote just reinforces it.
I love AOSP Android, and CyanogenMod/AOKP customization, and run it on my N7, GNex, and GS2 on ATT.
But -I love Sony's hardware design, specs, and build quality - and I could live without having AOSP from Google the moment it was released, as long as it has decent dev support and CM10/AOKP devs working on it with prompt release. This is really the only thing holding me back from jumping on the Sony wagon, I just feel they have a huge missed opportunity by not wanting to release a Nexus.
A locked bootloader is a no-go for me - especially as I intend to buy it SIM unlocked.
I wouldn't mind Sony pushing their Xperia stuff and ecosystem, as long as they had quick release of drivers/binaries to allow dev support. But if its not there, I can't buy it.
I suppose I have to hold out hope that the LG is not as bad as it looks or as I expect.
Fingers crossed!
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Get the Nexus 4. £280 for the 16GB. Really! That's the cheapest high-end phone i've seen to date!

I never thought I would even consider owning a LG product in my life. Google has changed it for me!!!! Damn, I will miss Sony phones until they catch up in keeping us with latest OS updates or comes with extraordinary design and build quality.

Note that the nexus 4 will not have LTE. It pretty much has everything else but LTE.
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DdcCabuslay said:
Note that the nexus 4 will not have LTE. It pretty much has everything else but LTE.
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Also no sdcard

MrPhilo said:
Get the Nexus 4. £280 for the 16GB. Really! That's the cheapest high-end phone i've seen to date!
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... it's an LG. Mention of questionable build quality out of Sony really baffles me at this point, I've had both LG and HTC, and the Sony blows them away, IMHO of course.

charlatan01 said:
... it's an LG. Mention of questionable build quality out of Sony really baffles me at this point, I've had both LG and HTC, and the Sony blows them away, IMHO of course.
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Not even the fact that it's LG, just the price they are asking versus the specs... The low price had to come from somewhere... It's not like they're selling it at a loss or anything.

On the dev support thing. CM10 support is now official. After the new milestone aokp will be asked to add it. Paranoid android is official. Any other ROMs that you are interested in?
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tilal6991 said:
On the dev support thing. CM10 support is now official. After the new milestone aokp will be asked to add it. Paranoid android is official. Any other ROMs that you are interested in?
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Thats great news.
Official cyanogenmod "mint" page is here

I'm not touching xperia tl. Was dying from it's found a while but, low dev support and locked bootloaders is a deal breaker for me.
If I'm going to be stuck with outdated android versions it may as we have quad core potential.
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Worth the Upgrade from an ION?

Can somebody in a similar situation help me with an upgrade decision?
I just recently sold my Samsung Galaxy Note 1 because I think that line has peaked. All the cool innovations seem to be coming from elsewhere. Whether it be waterproofing, camera improvements, or just greater size.
So I picked up an ION from ATT while the upgrade price was $1 US. It does just about everything well. My plan was to wait out the next round of releases like at MWC and see if anything really stands out.
The Z looks great, but is it REALLY that much of an upgrade over the ION/TL or even the Acro S? Is anybody with a current gen Xperia going to jump on the Z and the higher price?

It sure is a big upgrade over the Ion no doubt. But I'd suggest you wait for the next Sony flagship. It will be a beast according to rumors.
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stiffi2011 said:
Can somebody in a similar situation help me with an upgrade decision?
I just recently sold my Samsung Galaxy Note 1 because I think that line has peaked. All the cool innovations seem to be coming from elsewhere. Whether it be waterproofing, camera improvements, or just greater size.
So I picked up an ION from ATT while the upgrade price was $1 US. It does just about everything well. My plan was to wait out the next round of releases like at MWC and see if anything really stands out.
The Z looks great, but is it REALLY that much of an upgrade over the ION/TL or even the Acro S? Is anybody with a current gen Xperia going to jump on the Z and the higher price?
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personally I would not upgrade if I had a S/T/Ion etc, the only reason I'm upgrading is because my phone (arc s) is dog slow.

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stefanve said:
personally I would not upgrade if I had a S/T/Ion etc, the only reason I'm upgrading is because my phone (arc s) is dog slow.
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That's kind of how I'm swaying. The real draw for me is the new camera sensor but I fear it may not be better than the current exymor. The results from the Oppo find 5 with the same sensor are less than impressive.

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That's kind of how I'm swaying. The real draw for me is the new camera sensor but I fear it may not be better than the current exymor. The results from the Oppo find 5 with the same sensor are less than impressive.
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According to this review it's not impressive
http://www.techgoondu.com/2013/02/10/goondu-review-sony-xperia-z/
Maybe HTC can backup up its marketing speak with some sweet hardware., curious about the m7 camera tech

stefanve said:
According to this review it's not impressive
http://www.techgoondu.com/2013/02/10/goondu-review-sony-xperia-z/
Maybe HTC can backup up its marketing speak with some sweet hardware., curious about the m7 camera tech
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Me too. Probably would have bought the Z if came out last week. Now i am waiting for the M7 announcement . Also interested on in whatver Nokia is cooking up with the next pureview phone. Timing is everything.

Definitely better than the ION and i would say it is worth it

I have the ion, and plan on upgrading to the Z. I skipped out on the TL, so I'm in line for a new phone from Sony. I think the design and the 1080p screen makes it worth getting.
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I have an SGS2 and am looking for a new phone with a good good camera. So far this is worth looking at but from what I heard the camera is not that good I will have to wait for SGS4 lets hope camera is good on that or always HTC M7. Htc have good cameras.
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[Q] Why choose an Xperia Z over a Nexus 4?

I'm in the market for an upgrade and am torn between the Xperia Z and the Nexus 4. Obviously the Nexus 4 has the advantages of cost and timely updates from Google. I've read a lot of professional reviews about both phones, but would enjoy the chance to hear from Xperia Z owners about why I should choose this device over the Nexus 4.
The main advantages that I can see are; the screen resolution, the LCD screen being better in direct sunlight, 4G, upgradeable storage, waterproof, arguably stronger to being dropped, better battery life, better looks. Of those the upgradeable storage seems like a large gain, and the waterproofing a nice novelty (unless it one day saves me I guess!)
I'd love to hear from anyone that wants to persuade me to spend a bit more cash and go for the XZ.

I sold my N4 and bought an XZ. The only advantage the N4 has is that it's a Nexus, I run Cyanogenmod though so that's pretty much a non issue for me. Also, the N4 has a much more active dev community. Obviously it's cheaper too. I prefer the XZ in every other way though.
If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.

as the upper guy said go for the XperiaZ if u like giving your phone a shower every week
and have you checked ZL cause it is smaller with same 5inch screen
it's lighter also it has a better sound since its not rugged

Thanks for your reply about the ZL. According to the Sony website it's a few grams heavier but a decent bit smaller dimension wise. It's not available over here yet, but I'm going to keep an eye out for it.
I'd be interested to hear opinions about two issues that have come up in the reviews:
1) Software flaws that require the phone to be restarted to resolve
2) How the phone feels against your ear during calls - this sounds a bit of a strange one I admit!
Finally, does anyone have any information about the cost of Sony replacing the battery. Having replaced the battery (quite easily) on my Samsung Galaxy after about a year I'd be interested to know how easy/costly it is on a device such as this. I know Apple replace them on the iPhones for £55.

If it was my decision I would get a n4. Not only does it trounce the XZ in benchmarks but you get the vanilla android experience and you'll always be on the cutting edge when it comes to software updates. If 4G is a must then its the XZ you'll want although the hspa+ on the n4 is more than fast enough. Also, If you need the best shooter you can get then the XZ is also your best bet although again the nexus 4 is still not awful with its 8mp camera. Both phones will require a wipe down every once in a while due to their design (the nexus 4 has a gorilla glass back). I don't own a nexus 4 myself but quite a bit of my friends do and while only one of them has shattered the back cover, I've read many stories of people who absolutely despise the Nexus 4 claiming the back will shatter at the slight impact, however this can easily be worked around with a nice beefy case if you're worried.
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I'm sort of in the same boat, I sold my iPhone 5 and brought a nexus 4.
I'm happy with it to a point but I'm really interested in the Z, I'm not sure why but it looks amazing.
I've never really played with a Z apart from a demo handset in phone shop but it looked wicked.
I think the main thing I got the nexus for was the updates, I'm happy with the performance of the phone, battery life could be better but apart from that, the nexus is a really good phone.
But if I had the chance to swap for a xperia Z then I would definitely swap.
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Jsusgarcia179 said:
If it was my decision I would get a n4. Not only does it trounce the XZ in benchmarks but you get the vanilla android experience and you'll always be on the cutting edge when it comes to software updates. If 4G is a must then its the XZ you'll want although the hspa+ on the n4 is more than fast enough. Also, If you need the best shooter you can get then the XZ is also your best bet although again the nexus 4 is still not awful with its 8mp camera. Both phones will require a wipe down every once in a while due to their design (the nexus 4 has a gorilla glass back). I don't own a nexus 4 myself but quite a bit of my friends do and while only one of them has shattered the back cover, I've read many stories of people who absolutely despise the Nexus 4 claiming the back will shatter at the slight impact, however this can easily be worked around with a nice beefy case if you're worried.
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The camera on the N4 is awful

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dazza_84 said:
I'm sort of in the same boat, I sold my iPhone 5 and brought a nexus 4.
I'm happy with it to a point but I'm really interested in the Z, I'm not sure why but it looks amazing.
I've never really played with a Z apart from a demo handset in phone shop but it looked wicked.
I think the main thing I got the nexus for was the updates, I'm happy with the performance of the phone, battery life could be better but apart from that, the nexus is a really good phone.
But if I had the chance to swap for a xperia Z then I would definitely swap.
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http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...z-vs-htc-one-vs-iphone-5-vs-lumia-920-1137666 this article shows that although on paper the experia z's specs are on par with the current lineup of flagship phones, its real world performance it barely edges out last gen
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The camera on the N4 is awful
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Again I don't own a nexus 4 myself nor do I rely on my smartphone's camera so I wouldn't really know. Under those conditions I guess I really shouldn't of given input on the camera
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I have both a N4 and XZ. I'd strongly recommend the XZ for LTE and the camera, if those matter to you. The N4's camera kind of sucks.
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I wouldnt make the jump or wouldnt pay extra 200 for XZ over nexus 4, its a good phone but not a lot of dev for it, so far we have 1 kernel developer and maybe 4-5 good roms dev after 3 months coming out. I dint think it was a big jump from S3 to XZ.
CM10.1 is on here but there are a lot of bugs including memory leak. XZ is comparable to N4 but I dont think it can compete with HTC one or S4 and thats coming from someone who own the phone for more than a month.
P.s Dont come on this forum and ask for opinion, youtube and look at your options, most on here are either Fanboy or Sony employee.

creative-2008 said:
I'm in the market for an upgrade and am torn between the Xperia Z and the Nexus 4. Obviously the Nexus 4 has the advantages of cost and timely updates from Google. I've read a lot of professional reviews about both phones, but would enjoy the chance to hear from Xperia Z owners about why I should choose this device over the Nexus 4.
The main advantages that I can see are; the screen resolution, the LCD screen being better in direct sunlight, 4G, upgradeable storage, waterproof, arguably stronger to being dropped, better battery life, better looks. Of those the upgradeable storage seems like a large gain, and the waterproofing a nice novelty (unless it one day saves me I guess!)
I'd love to hear from anyone that wants to persuade me to spend a bit more cash and go for the XZ.
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Nexus has price and Android Update on its side
on the other hands, XZ is more powerful, absolutely awesome design
that's all rest its bull****, you cant compare point per point every stuff
are you willing to spend over 500/600 euros for such mobile phone?
that's your first question to figure out
personally i m focused much about aesthetic and design, XZ is one of most if not the most beautiful smartphone ever made
it s even prettier than iPhone 5
focus on those things,
XZ = design and powerful
Nexus = quality / cost almost unbeatable, Android Update

monsieur_debile said:
Nexus has price and Android Update on its side
on the other hands, XZ is more powerful, absolutely awesome design
that's all rest its bull****, you cant compare point per point every stuff
are you willing to spend over 500/600 euros for such mobile phone?
that's your first question to figure out
personally i m focused much about aesthetic and design, XZ is one of most if not the most beautiful smartphone ever made
it s even prettier than iPhone 5
focus on those things,
XZ = design and powerful
Nexus = quality / cost almost unbeatable, Android Update
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Its really not more powerful (on paper it is) and the nexus 4's design isnt too shabby either.
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G1_enthusiast said:
CM10.1 is on here but there are a lot of bugs including memory leak.
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Cyanogenmod doesn't have a memory leak. The only bugs are the speakerphone doesn't work in calls, 1.5 second wake lag and apparently hdmi out doesn't work. It's perfectly good as a daily driver.

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Cyanogenmod doesn't have a memory leak. The only bugs are the speakerphone doesn't work in calls, 1.5 second wake lag and apparently hdmi out doesn't work. It's perfectly good as a daily driver.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41399641&postcount=1010
several user reported it.
if you want 4.2.2 and it a absolutely must have go with Nexus 4. Storage is never a problem for me, I never find myself use up 16gb or 32gb

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41399641&postcount=1010
several user reported it.
if you want 4.2.2 and it a absolutely must have go with Nexus 4. Storage is never a problem for me, I never find myself use up 16gb or 32gb
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That wasn't a memory leak though, it was a gpu scaling issue and has been fixed (for me at least). It was a very minor issue and I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't pointed out.

Others have pointed out the price difference. This is absolutely right. Having the N4, if the XZ wasn't given to me, I wouldn't have gotten it. Between the 2, the N4 is half the price. If you're looking to spend money on one or other, the N4's definitely a bigger bang for the buck. While I do firmly believe that the XZ is a better all around phone, I can't honestly say that the differences you get warrant the additional 300 bucks.

Well I guess it depends on where you live but I'd only save 40SEK (About 6.50USD) A month on the Nexus 4.
And the salesman was really pushing the nexus4 so I guess it isn't to popular here in Sweden either. So the choice was easy for me.
Aannyyway, I went with the Z, obviously. Mostly for the water resitance as i broke my S2 from water damage and my arc got dropped once to (but it survived)
I love this phone, I don't have any issues with it. Except that you NEED to buy good screen protector, one with lifetime warranty perhaps.
You do not wan't to scratch the Anti-Shatter Filter. ( I actually returned mine because I did and got it replaced)

Thanks for all of your inputs. I feel a lot more informed, but I'm not sure if I'm any closer to making a decision.
The more I think about it though the more interested I am in the 'pure Android' experience. I might try and bide my time and wait and see if the S4 'Nexus' ships internationally, or if there is any noise towards the end of the year about a Nexus 5.

creative-2008 said:
Thanks for all of your inputs. I feel a lot more informed, but I'm not sure if I'm any closer to making a decision.
The more I think about it though the more interested I am in the 'pure Android' experience. I might try and bide my time and wait and see if the S4 'Nexus' ships internationally, or if there is any noise towards the end of the year about a Nexus 5.
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Xperia Z has open AOSP Sources, with time there will be a perfect AOSP rom, and the roms we've got now are perfectly fine, they're great actually, the Carbonrom is almost flaw free. and Cyanogenmod works great as a daily driver, few lag bugs and radio isn't working afaik.

I paid as much for the xperia z then I would for the nexus 4. And I get waterproof and bigger screen. So it was easy to make the call and expendable memory is nice too. Both would cost 300 euros. Defiantly the Xperia Z is the better phone for the same price.
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How about Sony Z2 tablet VS Tab S?

Yesterday I tried playing z2 tablet in Sony store. It is really really light compared with my iPad2 and I really love its design.No physical buttons. I think it must be the most good looking Android tablet in the world. It is very hard for me to choose AMOLED screen or beautiful design. Hi guys how do you think about Sony Z2 tablet?
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You could have just brought this up in one of the other "comparison" threads
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I forgot to say that its design makes me hold tablet very comfortable because of its enough wide margin.
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Once you go Samsung amoled on tablets you won't want to go back. Additionally, the screen aspect ratio 16:10 makes this the perfect video player. Points lost for horrible speakers. Minus the bloatware, this thing runs great.
Sony design have too much bezel for my liking. The only thing the z2 has that no other competitor have is water proof technology.

Amoled is nice but I would trade my Tab S for a Nexus 7 in a fast heart beat.
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I've chosen Tab S. Sony makes great gadgets (Year ago I had Sony Xperia Z), but I don't like its tablets cause of awful big frames. Tab S has (imho) better display, thinner and has less weight. But as for its hardware... Well - everyone knows that it is not brilliant. But for me - its enough for my tasks.)

Alexsandra said:
Yesterday I tried playing z2 tablet in Sony store. It is really really light compared with my iPad2 and I really love its design.No physical buttons. I think it must be the most good looking Android tablet in the world. It is very hard for me to choose AMOLED screen or beautiful design. Hi guys how do you think about Sony Z2 tablet?
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You know, asking this in the Tab S section pretty much ensures what kind of replies you'll get.
It's only human nature to justify their own choices.

Catherine_Solovieva said:
I've chosen Tab S. Sony makes great gadgets (Year ago I had Sony Xperia Z), but I don't like its tablets cause of awful big frames. Tab S has (imho) better display, thinner and has less weight. But as for its hardware... Well - everyone knows that it is not brilliant. But for me - its enough for my tasks.)
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I really like its big frame, which makes me hold tablet very stable and comfortable as well
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Alexsandra said:
I really like its big frame, which makes me hold tablet very stable and comfortable as well
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About comfort - I agree with you absolutely, but I can't do anything with my esthetic taste)) I haven't bought HTC One M8 (and 've sold M7) cause of front panel. It is too obvious for me) It's just my caprice)
Another moment - as far as I remember - Z2 has matte plastic back. It was another minus for me. I loved Sony for their glass materials.( And now they are look like... Samsung-style

Catherine_Solovieva said:
About comfort - I agree with you absolutely, but I can't do anything with my esthetic taste)) I haven't bought HTC One M8 (and 've sold M7) cause of front panel. It is too obvious for me) It's just my caprice)
Another moment - as far as I remember - Z2 has matte plastic back. It was another minus for me. I loved Sony for their glass materials.( And now they are look like... Samsung-style
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I have an HTC One (M8) and a Nexus 5 and I think I like the HTC One more cosmetically .not to mention the HTC One has the Snapdragon 801 as well
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jball said:
I have an HTC One (M8) and a Nexus 5 and I think I like the HTC One more cosmetically .not to mention the HTC One has the Snapdragon 801 as well
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Hmm... My fault is that I've never used Nexus.( I always hear about it, but never tried, thats why I can't tell about its design. Maybe cause of distrust to LG. For me there are only these leaders - Apple, Sony, HTC and Samsung.

Catherine_Solovieva said:
Hmm... My fault is that I've never used Nexus.( I always hear about it, but never tried, thats why I can't tell about its design. Maybe cause of distrust to LG. For me there are only these leaders - Apple, Sony, HTC and Samsung.
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The only Samsung I liked besides this Tab S was my S2 I337 .
The Nexus 5 is a bad ass phone but the Sense UI is probably the best thing to happen to android vs the buggy happenings of Touchwiz
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i returned my Sony Z2 as the keyboard was not very sensitive and the device laggy.
The tab S screen is much nicer. A little laggy but see other threads about that. Overall its excellent having used it for a little over a month.
Charging is very slow....9 hours from empty.

jball said:
The only Samsung I liked besides this Tab S was my S2 I337 .
The Nexus 5 is a bad ass phone but the Sense UI is probably the best thing to happen to android vs the buggy happenings of Touchwiz
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As for me - I enjoy S5 and Gear 2)) I always say, that if someone will combine all the best features from top gadgets - it'll be the best phone (tablet) ever:laugh:

That's why they will never combine them. You wouldn't have any reason to upgrade and spend more money. Take the tab s for instance; it has close to the perfect screen, but they made sure people would want to upgrade by putting in an already ancient chipset GPU and CPU wise. I love mine but I'm aware and pissed that it won't last as long due to that. Planned obsolescence.
With regards to the z2; if you don't use your tab, just look at the aesthetics or need to use it in the shower get the z2, otherwise it's no contest.
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jball said:
Amoled is nice but I would trade my Tab S for a Nexus 7 in a fast heart beat.
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Just install AOSP and you have the best of both worlds!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHXahMDDXJ8
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eqlAqk6om2s

Turbojugend said:
Just install AOSP and you have the best of both worlds!
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I have been on the AOSP build since the first build and that's the way android should be in my opinion. Thank you for the recommendation
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moSess said:
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10" tablets are optimized for landscape. They're fine in portrait for reading and browsing but they don't really perform well otherwise. I use my 10" tablet in portrait mode only for reading and using S Note and have never had anything near the lag shown in your videos. Chrome pretty much sucks on Samsung's tablets so what's shown in your first video is nothing new. I was at Best Buy today and wanted to see if their S floor model was as bad was what you showed in your second video. It wasn't. So I don't know what's going on either with your specific device or in your specific scenario.
As for Sony's designs I really don't get them. They make paper thin devices with humongous bezels so the h/w internals are spread out over a wide area rather than being stacked making the device a bit thicker. The Z tablet is bigger than the S which has a 10.5" display and huge compared to a Samsung 10" tablet which has the same size screen. I guess I'm just a form follows function kind of guy.

@BarryH_GEG
I don't have an issue using Chrome at all with my Tab S 8.4
It might have something to do with not running Touchwiz on it anymore. Got to love AOSP baby
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