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Nexus 7 Dev vs consumer physical design

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Once I saw the I/O Dev Version of the Nexus 7 I was surprised how much better it--and less iPadesque-- looks with the Black part sounding the Bezel instead of the Silver. I'm not a fan of the white though. I would have loved an all Black Nexus 7. It makes be wonder why they went with the silver in the first place.

I don't think there's ANYTHING "iPadesque" about the Nexus 7, either variation, any more than a Ferrari is "Corvette-esque" because it's kind of a wedge shape with four wheels and a roofline.

wynand32 said:
I don't think there's ANYTHING "iPadesque" about the Nexus 7, either variation, any more than a Ferrari is "Corvette-esque" because it's kind of a wedge shape with four wheels and a roofline.
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Gloss black Bezel with a silver border and rounded corners and a rectangular shape. Is definitely iPadesque, anyone one that takes an unbiased look can see that. I am not an Apple fan in the least by the way. I just hate how some many products from other companies are imitating them looks wise. I don't even like how the iProducts look personally and Asus made many product that look original, and the back of the Nexus 7 does look original and appealing to my eyes, but the front is iPadesque.
No you example isn't valid. I would would say a Firebird from the 80s while compared to a Corvette from the same period would be Corvette-esque though.

is the consumer product in both colours?

Cel1084 said:
Gloss black Bezel with a silver border and rounded corners and a rectangular shape. Is definitely iPadesque, anyone one that takes an unbiased look can see that.
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Some things just make sense and can't be claimed by anyone. Fans are often round because, well, that's the shape that things make when they spin. Cars are wedge shaped because, at the time, that's the most aerodynamic known shape. Bezels are black (on tablets and TVs) because that works best with the most content being displayed. Tablets are rectangular because the screens are rectangular (duh!).
Apple can't claim ownership or even creative origination of any of these characteristics. Each and every aspect was either obvious, a virtual requirement (i.e., rectangular screens), or borrowed from some other product. And my iPad doesn't have a silver border, so not sure what you're referring to there.
Apple chose to make a minimalist design, which means minimum ornamentation and just what logically flows from what the device does. Claiming ownership of that is like claiming ownership of a negative--they're saying, in effect, you have to do what we didn't do, that is, we didn't add anything to the most basic possible design, and so you have to. That makes no sense to me.
Not to mention, you're focusing on the very front of the device, which is also deceiving. There's also the sides and back to consider, which are nothing like the iPad by virtue of actually having some ornamentation. Apple made the same silly argument with the Galaxy Tab, and unfortunately the idiot judge myopically bought it.
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Also, your Firebird v. Corvette example is a bad one. Yes, they're very alike, and not just because they're wedge-shaped--they share many common design cues. But they were also both made by General Motors, and probably by the same design teams.
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wynand32 said:
Some things just make sense and can't be claimed by anyone. Fans are often round because, well, that's the shape that things make when they spin. Cars are wedge shaped because, at the time, that's the most aerodynamic known shape. Bezels are black (on tablets and TVs) because that works best with the most content being displayed. Tablets are rectangular because the screens are rectangular (duh!).
Apple can't claim ownership or even creative origination of any of these characteristics. Each and every aspect was either obvious, a virtual requirement (i.e., rectangular screens), or borrowed from some other product. And my iPad doesn't have a silver border, so not sure what you're referring to there.
Apple chose to make a minimalist design, which means minimum ornamentation and just what logically flows from what the device does. Claiming ownership of that is like claiming ownership of a negative--they're saying, in effect, you have to do what we didn't do, that is, we didn't add anything to the most basic possible design, and so you have to. That makes no sense to me.
Not to mention, you're focusing on the very front of the device, which is also deceiving. There's also the sides and back to consider, which are nothing like the iPad by virtue of actually having some ornamentation. Apple made the same silly argument with the Galaxy Tab, and unfortunately the idiot judge myopically bought it.
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I didn't say Apple owned anything, though they seem to think so. Just that they look similar from the front. Don't go all fan boy on me, man. There is no need. I dislike Apple, I just think companies are copying the look, thinking that what costumers want because they are so successful in the tablet market. I specifically don't want that and get a bit frustrated every time a android product come out that takes design queues from apple. My main phone is a G2 and I love it. It looks like nothing but itself. And hell yeah Samsung was copying Apple, but I don't think they violated any laws in doing so.

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And my iPad doesn't have a silver border, so not sure what you're referring to there.
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While I wholeheartedly agree with everything you stated, I believe he is referring to the iPad 1.
The similarity here is a tad jarring, but I have never been one to get engaged in all this business.

mojo22 said:
is the consumer product in both colours?
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it doesn't look that way

Cel1084 said:
I didn't say Apple owned anything, though they seem to think so. Just that they look similar from the front. Don't go all fan boy on me, man. There is no need. I dislike Apple, I just think companies are copying the look, thinking that what costumers want because they are so successful in the tablet market. I specifically don't want that and get a bit frustrated every time a android product come out that takes design queues from apple. My main phone is a G2 and I love it. It looks like nothing but itself. And hell yeah Samsung was copying Apple, but I don't think they violated any laws in doing so.
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I'm not going "all fan boy," I'm going all rational. Hell, I own an iPad 3.
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While I wholeheartedly agree with everything you stated, I believe he is referring to the iPad 1.
The similarity here is a tad jarring, but I have never been one to get engaged in all this business.
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3 has it too if a bit slimmer

wynand32 said:
I'm not going "all fan boy," I'm going all rational. Hell, I own an iPad 3.
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This is correct. The Nexus 7's similarities to the iPad are only the front, and even then they aren't too similar. The sides and back are completely different, and IMO look nicer than the iPad.

The only way you could say the iPad and the Nexus 7 look the same is because it's black, has a camera on the top instead of on the side, and the ones given out at I/O have the white back which looks a little simular to the silver on the iPad.

That is certainly enough for Apple to claim patent violation on.

First off how whould you say it looks the same? The nexus 7 has a larger brezel on it then the ipad and next off the camera smaller and has no physical buttons like the ipad. There also made of different materials no aluminum in the nexus 7 and the back has a rubberized finish. Also its a heck alot easier to fix then a ipad is and the software is much different and you can't really change a screen to look much different.

kinda off topic but is there one like this for the galaxy nexus? like a dev version? if so, link please.

pham818 said:
kinda off topic but is there one like this for the galaxy nexus? like a dev version? if so, link please.
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Don't have a link, but Google employees got a Galaxy Nexus with a special back plate.

rmm200 said:
That is certainly enough for Apple to claim patent violation on.
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Um, no. They'd have to have already filed a patent application, or the Nexus and every other 7" tablet would clearly be prior art. You're forgetting the the Nexus is shipping before any 7" iPad has even been announced. And certainly they can't claim that a 7" tablet violates the design patent on their 10" tablet. That would be ludicrous, even for today's broken system.
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wynand32 said:
Um, no. They'd have to have already filed a patent application, or the Nexus and every other 7" tablet would clearly be prior art. You're forgetting the the Nexus is shipping before any 7" iPad has even been announced. And certainly they can't claim that a 7" tablet violates the design patent on their 10" tablet. That would be ludicrous, even for today's broken system.
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But the lawyers, they can do anything

Seriously? How did this mutate into another Apple patent thread?
I agree with the OP, I wish the consumer model had the black rim the I/O version does. I've never liked the silver rim on any tablet device. I'd love to have an I/O tablet and replace the back with a consumer black rear cover.

Anyone using a stylus on their Nexus 7?

what is the difference between these so called Samsung Galaxy Note Pen
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NYAHD4/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=itemasin0f-20&adid=1QAB4P8XS0A3TRDHSKEY
versus these dollar stylus?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0075IQKYA...questasin-20&camp=0&adid=0MYMVG22DXMJ5QDJVJMK
i haven't used a stylus since my old wm pda and palm pilot days, but now i see people with galaxy note scribbling stuff on their phone i am tempted to try it out again
my guts telling me i should just get those cheap ones, but wants some opinion from you fellas

testaccount said:
what is the difference between these so called Samsung Galaxy Note Pen
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NYAHD4/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=itemasin0f-20&adid=1QAB4P8XS0A3TRDHSKEY
versus these dollar stylus?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0075IQKYA...questasin-20&camp=0&adid=0MYMVG22DXMJ5QDJVJMK
i haven't used a stylus since my old wm pda and palm pilot days, but now i see people with galaxy note scribbling stuff on their phone i am tempted to try it out again
my guts telling me i should just get those cheap ones, but wants some opinion from you fellas
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First, that's not a Samsung Galaxy NOTE stylus. That's a Samsung Galaxy Tab stylus which is an entirely different technology. The Note's stylus is an active stylus capable of things like pressure sensitive writing with a fine tip (as opposed to the other sausage-tipped styli that just pretend they're your finger).
As far as the difference between the ones you point out go.... performance varies from person to person and device to device, so you've really just got to try some and see if they work well with the Nexus and your particular writing style. Just make sure that the tip is firm enough that the body of the pen can't hit the screen while you write.
And if you're hoping that writing with any capacitive stylus will be just like writing with a real pen....then neither of them will be good for you since they can't handle that type of precision (you usually need to write large letters that programs shrink down). The type of styli used with the Galaxy Note are the only ones that can actually handle this, but there aren't any for use with the Nexus.

I'm using the Kensington Virtuoso Touch, there are a couple of threads on this forum giving links to reviews of various styluses that tell you why the better ones are 'better'.

I'm using these (In the picture) with my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 which both have xtreme guard screen protectors on them. They work perfectly. They aren't pressure sensitive or anything extravagant like that, but they write well and draw well. That's what I was looking for. I like that I can lose them and it doesn't matter since they are dirt cheap.
I purchased these in an 8 pack. 4 Large and 4 small for my phone. They are all identical in build quality which is good. Made out of aluminum.
I also own a few other stylus (Bamboo, Cosmonaut) which are good but compared to price/performance for me, these are the best I've used.
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randpost said:
I'm using these (In the picture) with my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 which both have xtreme guard screen protectors on them. They work perfectly. They aren't pressure sensitive or anything extravagant like that, but they write well and draw well. That's what I was looking for. I like that I can lose them and it doesn't matter since they are dirt cheap.
I purchased these in an 8 pack. 4 Large and 4 small for my phone. They are all identical in build quality which is good. Made out of aluminum.
I also own a few other stylus (Bamboo, Cosmonaut) which are good but compared to price/performance for me, these are the best I've used.
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Got the one on the right from the dollar tree. Work great with 7note for a "keyboard", evernote for note taking/syncing, and skitch for pictures with evernote.
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Im using one I got from the pound shop its brilliant..

Yea don't waste your money on a stylus outside of a few bucks. I almost purchased a $20 stylus at Microcenter then while checking out, they had the exact same one for $3. I tested both and both felt the same.
Outside of acting like I can draw anything good on a tablet (or on paper for that matter) they are a fad. I also don't take notes with a pen.
Just invest money in a good keyboard from the market and practice thumb typing. Or buy a little Bluetooth thumb keyboard off eBay for $5 which also doubles as a handy gamepad for emulators.
Capacitive screens just aren't good for fine tuned motor skills required for writing. The tablets that have pens like the Note use a combination of technologies that let it be much more precise.
I also think the pens come separate and cost a good chunck of change (~$50?). The HTC Flyer does it that way. I just can't see writing with a stylus on a 5" screen.
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http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...nref-20&qid=1343568905&sr=8-5&keywords=stylus
thanks for all the replies, i went with this one at the end, not too expensive also not the dollar cheapo ones
figured that amazon's own brand is worth a few bucks, hope it is as good as the reviews

testaccount said:
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...nref-20&qid=1343568905&sr=8-5&keywords=stylus
thanks for all the replies, i went with this one at the end, not too expensive also not the dollar cheapo ones
figured that amazon's own brand is worth a few bucks, hope it is as good as the reviews
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Wow, that's a whole lotta box for shipping an itty bitty stylus! :cyclops:

player911 said:
Outside of acting like I can draw anything good on a tablet (or on paper for that matter) they are a fad. I also don't take notes with a pen.
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I don't know... I have lots of things I could use a fine tipped accurate stylus for. The biggest issue I see for things like the Note and the Note Tab is app support.
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the only thing that i can think of using a stylus is drawsomething, at least for now

I just ordered this one just to test. For $1.69 and free shipping, I wouldn't really care if it doesn't work.

Nicraz said:
I just ordered this one just to test. For $1.69 and free shipping, I wouldn't really care if it doesn't work.
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Exactly the one I was looking at, will be intestinig to see how you like it, my buddy got a couple in China. 1$ a piece... This is a pretty good deal if they 1/2 way work...
Keep us posted...
Thanks!

I use a clooly and definitely recommend it. Works great on the gnexus too.
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rpwhite3 said:
Exactly the one I was looking at, will be intestinig to see how you like it, my buddy got a couple in China. 1$ a piece... This is a pretty good deal if they 1/2 way work...
Keep us posted...
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Sure will, np.
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i tried my amazon stylus versus my buddy's one dollar no brand stylus
to be honest, they are almost the same, i emailed amazon back and want to return the stylus, told them that it felt no different than the 1 dollar one my buddy got, they told me to keep it and will give me my money back, i told the csr that it won't be necessary and they issued the credit anyway
i don't recommend anyone doing this with the intention of asking amazon for a refund but they did do the right thing for me

rpwhite3 said:
Exactly the one I was looking at, will be intestinig to see how you like it, my buddy got a couple in China. 1$ a piece... This is a pretty good deal if they 1/2 way work...
Keep us posted...
Thanks!
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The stylus works just fine. I really don't see a reason to spend more than $2 for these! It's smooth and comfortable to use.
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I bought the Kensington Virtuoso Touch Stylus + Pen and replaced the pen with a Parker fine black refill. Works great and nice weight to it.

I'm not gonna lie, I bought one of those dollar store styluses yesterday and... Using my Nexus 7 is a LOT more fun with a stylus than without. I was pleasantly surprised

I've had the Kensington for a couple of weeks now and I'm using it more and more, it's really fast and accurate for typing, keeps the fingerprints down and the inbuilt Parker pen is great.

feels like a cheap tablet vs my GTab 7.7

Got my 32G+HPSA Nexus7 yesterday and boy was I disappointed: it feels
like a cheap piece of plastic compared to my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
Problems:
- thicker than my 1-year old gtab 7.7
- huge bezel, small screen: lots of wasted real-estate, an 8" screen
could easily have been fitted in that case
- no forward-facing camera
- no phone function (I knew that, but still, how much would it cost to
add it, and really convenient when travelling to put a 'local' SIM)
- bad screen, washed out colors, nowhere near the crispness and quality
of a Gtab 7.7
I will keep it though for my kids, but it's a let down.

If you don't like it then return it. Simple as that.

eXecuter.bin said:
If you don't like it then return it. Simple as that.
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Yup agreed, too many whingers and whiners.
Slag it off then say "oh well I'll keep it for the dog/cat/child"
Have issues send it back and don't darken our door, simples!
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I smell bullcrap! Pffttt!
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There have been too many "my gtab is better than the **** n7" lately, which is suspicious...
And by the way... There are 3g models of the n7 !
I'll think this are trolling post and gonna star reporting them... If you think the tab is better than the n7 and wanna start a thread about it, do it so in the tab section, not in n7's
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I personally think the nexus 7 is beast. I also have a Toshiba thrive and I love my nexus way more. Well maybe because I have always been a big fan of Google design devices. Ooh yea it does not feel cheap.
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Hey,
nexus 7 has front camera and as you've bought the hspa+ version it supports 3g.
BS.

A quad core, pure Android, Google flagship, cheap as hell tab is worse than some dual core, laggy as hell, plasticky Sammy tab ? Not to mention receiving timely updates from Google as well as running pure Android (probably 4.2 at this point) out of the box while the 7.7" is probably stuck on HC/ICS ??? People like you amaze me .
1. 3G version = Calls are possible, but requires some work done on your part, which judging by your attitude, seems as good of an idea as just doing nothing.
2. Huge bezel = Ideal for holding, especially when reading.
3. Washed out colours = I agree but honestly, are you going to use the tab or just put some flowery wallpaper and show everyone "Oooooo loook how crisp my display is !" for brag rights ? I have a One X so I know the feeling, but I want to use the tab, not stare and judge how beautiful and crisp the colors are.
4. No front facing camera = I think you meant rear. And seriously, do you people realise how stupid taking pics with a tab makes you look ?
Honestly, this is how stupid taking pics with a tab makes you look like
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Want to take pics, get a camera phone or get a camera...

RohinZaraki said:
A quad core, pure Android, Google flagship, cheap as hell tab is worse than some dual core, laggy as hell, plasticky Sammy tab ? Not to mention receiving timely updates from Google as well as running pure Android (probably 4.2 at this point) out of the box while the 7.7" is probably stuck on HC/ICS ??? People like you amaze me .
1. 3G version = Calls are possible, but requires some work done on your part, which judging by your attitude, seems as good of an idea as just doing nothing.
2. Huge bezel = Ideal for holding, especially when reading.
3. Washed out colours = I agree but honestly, are you going to use the tab or just put some flowery wallpaper and show everyone "Oooooo loook how crisp my display is !" for brag rights ? I have a One X so I know the feeling, but I want to use the tab, not stare and judge how beautiful and crisp the colors are.
4. No front facing camera = I think you meant rear. And seriously, do you people realise how stupid taking pics with a tab makes you look ?
Honestly, this is how stupid taking pics with a tab makes you look like
Want to take pics, get a camera phone or get a camera...
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So true.
Sent on my rocken Nexus 7

If they put an 8" display on it, it wouldn't be a 7 inch tablet... that's kinda the point isn't it? Also the N7 has a smaller screen with greater dpi, so there's no way it's not as crisp or crisper.
And I'll say it again, if you put anything else next to Super Amoled, you are going to complain about it. It's a fact of life.
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I'm willing to bet that Asus & Google are beyond the drawing board stages of planning for the next launch of Nexus 7 - Gen II or the "7X" or whatever - with enhanced features ...
As for looks & feels, just waiting for Louis Vuitton, Coach or Burberry to release their designer cover for the Nexus series including the N7 - slip yours into one and "pimp" it.
Meanwhile, my el cheapo N7 is snuggly inside an eForcity rotating cover b/c not feeling like paying local superstore $39.99 USD for a case, yet all of them made in China - just like the rest of those products sold by the "i" OS - ever heard of Foxconn in Shenzhen - it's not the skin that matter, rather what's beneath the fancy shell. PQ on this over Skype is amazingly clear enough - and, over "Google Talk" for the matter - it's all subjective, isn't it as far as "look & feel" go, just saying ...

Letitride said:
I'm willing to bet that Asus & Google are beyond the drawing board stages of planning for the next launch of Nexus 7 - Gen II or the "7X" or whatever - with enhanced features ...
As for looks & feels, just waiting for Louis Vuitton, Coach or Burberry to release their designer cover for the Nexus series including the N7 - slip yours into one and "pimp" it.
Meanwhile, my el cheapo N7 is snuggly inside an eForcity rotating cover b/c not feeling like paying local superstore $39.99 USD for a case, yet all of them made in China - just like the rest of those products sold by the "i" OS - ever heard of Foxconn in Shenzhen - it's not the skin that matter, rather what's beneath the fancy shell. PQ on this over Skype is amazingly clear enough - and, over "Google Talk" for the matter - it's all subjective, isn't it as far as "look & feel" go, just saying ...
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zafu said:
Got my 32G+HPSA Nexus7 yesterday and boy was I disappointed: it feels
like a cheap piece of plastic compared to my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
Problems:
- thicker than my 1-year old gtab 7.7
- huge bezel, small screen: lots of wasted real-estate, an 8" screen
could easily have been fitted in that case
- no forward-facing camera
- no phone function (I knew that, but still, how much would it cost to
add it, and really convenient when travelling to put a 'local' SIM)
- bad screen, washed out colors, nowhere near the crispness and quality
of a Gtab 7.7
I will keep it though for my kids, but it's a let down.
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Point?

I have samsung 7.7 for a year and for me its still best android tablet ever produces..ipad mini was just copy of tab 7.7 but nexus 7 is newer ..has better cpy then 7.7 and its just good enough for the masses..i love mu nexys 7 bit i also love that "old" samsung 7.7..i use them both.
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And how much did you pay for that GTab 7.7?
****in yodel.

zafu said:
Got my 32G+HPSA Nexus7 yesterday and boy was I disappointed: it feels
like a cheap piece of plastic compared to my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
Problems:
- thicker than my 1-year old gtab 7.7
- huge bezel, small screen: lots of wasted real-estate, an 8" screen
could easily have been fitted in that case
- no forward-facing camera
- no phone function (I knew that, but still, how much would it cost to
add it, and really convenient when travelling to put a 'local' SIM)
- bad screen, washed out colors, nowhere near the crispness and quality
of a Gtab 7.7
I will keep it though for my kids, but it's a let down.
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A lot of BS. Of course, some things are better on it but guess what. I checked its price and it still costs 350 for Wi-Fi only version. Sorry, but that's a little too much for me to pay for a tab with outdated SoC, stuck on ICS forever and no fully bug free custom ROM because of lack of Exynos support. If it would have been 150 I might have thougt about it.
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zafu said:
Got my 32G+HPSA Nexus7 yesterday and boy was I disappointed: it feels
like a cheap piece of plastic compared to my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
Problems:
- thicker than my 1-year old gtab 7.7
- huge bezel, small screen: lots of wasted real-estate, an 8" screen
could easily have been fitted in that case
- no forward-facing camera
- no phone function (I knew that, but still, how much would it cost to
add it, and really convenient when travelling to put a 'local' SIM)
- bad screen, washed out colors, nowhere near the crispness and quality
of a Gtab 7.7
I will keep it though for my kids, but it's a let down.
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As I thought, a hidden message in his text!

zafu said:
it feels like a cheap piece of plastic
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That's the whole point: it is a *much* cheaper piece of plastic than most others tablets.
The price is what makes it such an amazing bargain :good:

For God sake Samsung...

Why cant they do something better than the crappy chrome plastic around the bezel.
My Note 2 and Note 3 look dented and crap because of this poverty spec feature. Now the S5 has it too
All i want is some premium built quality and better speakers on this phone and it would be perfect.
For £550 we should get it, I cant live with IPS LCD so i have to go with Samsung.
Its like an abusive relationship this is. I cant live with it and i cant leave either.

I would gladly take the plastic over a poor screen.
I don't understand *****ing about the plastics I put a case on all my phones (and have never broken a phone and have had a cell phone for 15 years). I'd be *****ing about how the finger print scanner, heart rate monitor and the camera blur gimik doesn't work all that well.
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bucket81 said:
I would gladly take the plastic over a poor screen.
I don't understand *****ing about the plastics I put a case on all my phones (and have never broken a phone and have had a cell phone for 15 years). I'd be *****ing about how the finger print scanner, heart rate monitor and the camera blur gimik doesn't work all that well.
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i hate cases personally.
i have tempered glass and thats it.
Chrome plastic belongs on children's play jewellery not a £550 phone. They should have made the edge Stainless steel or something like that.

irzero said:
Why cant they do something better than the crappy chrome plastic around the bezel.
My Note 2 and Note 3 look dented and crap because of this poverty spec feature. Now the S5 has it too
All i want is some premium built quality and better speakers on this phone and it would be perfect.
For £550 we should get it, I cant live with IPS LCD so i have to go with Samsung.
Its like an abusive relationship this is. I cant live with it and i cant leave either.
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Just because a phone is made out of aluminium doesn't mean the quality is better. My HTC one still get dented when I drop it. It has scratch mark as well. It's also heavier and more slippery to hold.

I agree.
When I saw the S5 I hated the chrome bezels.
SO SO SO UGLY.
Seriously.
Also thought the same when I saw the Note 3 for the first time.
Looks like an old design instead of a modern and fresh one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0SAUaXfRWI

irzero said:
Why cant they do something better than the crappy chrome plastic around the bezel.
My Note 2 and Note 3 look dented and crap because of this poverty spec feature. Now the S5 has it too
All i want is some premium built quality and better speakers on this phone and it would be perfect.
For £550 we should get it, I cant live with IPS LCD so i have to go with Samsung.
Its like an abusive relationship this is. I cant live with it and i cant leave either.
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Buy a Moto X, we got enough whining in other threads y'know...

irzero said:
Why cant they do something better than the crappy chrome plastic around the bezel.
My Note 2 and Note 3 look dented and crap because of this poverty spec feature. Now the S5 has it too
All i want is some premium built quality and better speakers on this phone and it would be perfect.
For £550 we should get it, I cant live with IPS LCD so i have to go with Samsung.
Its like an abusive relationship this is. I cant live with it and i cant leave either.
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Just go back to a flip phone.
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barondebxl said:
Just go back to a flip phone.
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Or maybe this
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It has an AMOLED screen...

dandroid13 said:
Or maybe this
It has an AMOLED screen...
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dandroid13 said:
Or maybe this
It has an AMOLED screen...
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Even better
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barondebxl said:
Even better
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better than the s5 for sure

bucket81 said:
I would gladly take the plastic over a poor screen.
I don't understand *****ing about the plastics I put a case on all my phones (and have never broken a phone and have had a cell phone for 15 years). I'd be *****ing about how the finger print scanner, heart rate monitor and the camera blur gimik doesn't work all that well.
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I do agree about the chrome paint though, it's unnecessary, a rubbery matte black like on the Nexus 4 would give better grip. That chrome paint will be the first to go, the glass front and the rugged back will stay the same a lot longer.

The plastic bezel is my biggest pet peeve with the device. Sadly very few of the S5 cases cover it either.

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Even better
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Double quote

hello00 said:
better than the s5 for sure
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Whatever makes you feel good
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A, Samsung doesn't read this forum. The Samsung complaint forms can be found on their website.
B, I've dropped bounced and handled my Note 3 more times than I care to remember. Mine is still entirely unblemished. So you're doing soemthing wrong, or the PH value of your skin is far too high.

irzero said:
i hate cases personally.
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Then don't buy it. It's that easy.

barondebxl said:
Just go back to a flip phone.
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Or an iphone 5S.
I own them all and by far the iphone has the best build quality in and out, bar none.
Too bad it doesn't run android!
The HTC One feels better in hand (the M8 could be used as a deadly weapon in the hands of a skilled tosser, seriously!) but I see differences in quality from sample to sample unfortunately.
As far as making the S5 with a metal chassis, it may have better appeal but you just cannot wrap the current design in metal. Unless you don't mind serious signal issues!
If you want the phone looking new (and really this applies to ANY phone) you should wrap it in a case. Granted the iphone4 was probably the best for staying like new naked. Until you dropped it and shattered the glass. :laugh:
The S5 does feel cheap because it's light. Like most things technical, the average person believes they are better if they are heavy. I don't mind the "bandaid" back cover to be honest. It's grippy. The glossy cover of the S4 may have been sleeker but it's a fingerprint magnet and shows scratches easily.
When it comes to something you carry, remember the heavier it is, the harder it falls. This is why a lightweight phone can survive drops better than a brick of a device.

irzero said:
Why cant they do something better than the crappy chrome plastic around the bezel.
My Note 2 and Note 3 look dented and crap because of this poverty spec feature. Now the S5 has it too
All i want is some premium built quality and better speakers on this phone and it would be perfect.
For £550 we should get it, I cant live with IPS LCD so i have to go with Samsung.
Its like an abusive relationship this is. I cant live with it and i cant leave either.
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Honestly, I like everything about the S5. It's perfect! Don't see why people complain so much about it.

All you people b!tching and whining, the back is removable and therefore replaceable. Go on eBay/Amazon and search S5 backs, or buy another phone. End of thread/discussion...

Thoughts about Nexus 6 size

Hello guyz,
I'm thinking of purchasing Nexus 6 soon but the one thing that is bothering me is its size. I've never seen or tried Nexus 6 in real life. I saw various review videos about it by Android Authority and many more sites and it seemed like I can handle it. But I am very shocked after seeing a pic in which Nexus 6 is placed side by side with Nexus 5. It was very large :crying:
Actually the problem is that even Nexus 5 doesn't fits in my pocket properly as I'm very skinny so how will I manage Nexus 6
I badly wanna buy it What are your opinions?

I think it could be bigger but 5.96" is a large enough screen for now. I had a Note 3 then a G3 and now this (for large screen phones) and I think its easily manageable. You will get used to the size in a week or so and love it. It may look big, but once you have a big phone there's no going back. My G3 felt like a child's toy for a while and it did again when I got my Nexus. I usually carry my in my hand or cost pocket if it's cold enough. It fits in my jeans pocket but then again I don't wear skinny jeans and I'm 5'9" if that matters. I would give it s try (you usually get 2 weeks to return it) so the worst that can happen is you don't like the phone.
Once you get a phablet you'll never need a tablet

BeingRitesh said:
Hello guyz,
I'm thinking of purchasing Nexus 6 soon but the one thing that is bothering me is its size. I've never seen or tried Nexus 6 in real life. I saw various review videos about it by Android Authority and many more sites and it seemed like I can handle it. But I am very shocked after seeing a pic in which Nexus 6 is placed side by side with Nexus 5. It was very large :crying:
Actually the problem is that even Nexus 5 doesn't fits in my pocket properly as I'm very skinny so how will I manage Nexus 6
I badly wanna buy it What are your opinions?
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Seemed big at first but now everything else seems way too small. Made me appreciate PIE, though. Thought it could render my Nexus 7 obsolete but it's not big enough for that.

Pilz said:
I think it could be bigger but 5.96" is a large enough screen for now. I had a Note 3 then a G3 and now this (for large screen phones) and I think its easily manageable. You will get used to the size in a week or so and love it. It may look big, but once you have a big phone there's no going back. My G3 felt like a child's toy for a while and it did again when I got my Nexus. I usually carry my in my hand or cost pocket if it's cold enough. It fits in my jeans pocket but then again I don't wear skinny jeans and I'm 5'9" if that matters. I would give it s try (you usually get 2 weeks to return it) so the worst that can happen is you don't like the phone.
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Thanks @Pilz for sharing your experience. I really like the phone so much I swear. Even I can't stop dreaming about me holding Nexus 6 in right hand and all my friends behind me ready for a selfie lol
I would have brought it yet but just waiting for my payments.
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Seemed big at first but now everything else seems way too small. Made me appreciate PIE, though. Thought it could render my Nexus 7 obsolete but it's not big enough for that.
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@wtherrell Thanks for sharing your experience. I really appreciate it. Now I can happily buy and enjoy my new Nexus device

Have you handled a Nexus 7? If so, here's a comparison that might make more sense for you.
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In reality, yes it's big, but not unwieldy. My Nexus 7 always went with me in my pocket, so of course, I don't have a problem with toting around the N6.

If you're used to a Note or 1+1 then it's fine. Feels almost the same as a OPO in my hand and it's only a few mm wider kinds like the first Note.

BeingRitesh said:
Thanks @Pilz for sharing your experience. I really like the phone so much I swear. Even I can't stop dreaming about me holding Nexus 6 in right hand and all my friends behind me ready for a selfie lol
I would have brought it yet but just waiting for my payments.
Thanks again
@wtherrell Thanks for sharing your experience. I really appreciate it. Now I can happily buy and enjoy my new Nexus device
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Its quite easy to hold much like my old Nexus 7. I got rid of my Nexus 7 because I don't use it anyone and I didn't use my Nexus 9 as much either. I won a Nexus 9 but I'm still waiting for it to arrive and I may keep this one. What I'm getting it is the Nexus 6 is great and while it may not replace a tablet for everyone it made it easier for me to say good bye to my Nexus 7.
Here is a pic of the Nexus 6 next to my wife's Moto X 2014 (that was my first Nexus 6 with a matte black dbrand skin)

I love the size. Only time I don't like it is when it's in my front pocket and I am in a squat position, such as tying shoes. The phone feels constrained at that point. I could never go back to a smaller phone now.

I never felt that any of these phablets are too big to handle or to place in pockets. I used to carry my nexus7 with me all the time in my back pockets. I have medium-sized hands myself and yes I can't type without using both hands, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make to get a beautiful big screen like this one. I really wish it was bigger tbh, a 6.3-6.5inch display would've been ideal for me.

Feels smaller than what it is. You will love it the g3 was to small for me and the note 3 was boring to me and small . Finally found a phone that fits my hands. I can reach across the screen with my thumb with no problems

When I first saw the specs I thought, "wow, WAY to big to ever consider it." Then, I felt one in the store and thought, "man this thing is huge, but I kind of like it." Then, I bit the bullet and bought it. Within a week, I fell in love with it and think it's the perfect size. When I pickup smaller phones now they just seem way to tiny. I don't think I could go to a smaller phone after having this.

Better than A iPhone 6 Plus
Had the iPhone 6 Plus when it first came out and absolutely from a phone design standpoint love my Nexus 6 much better beside being Android of course. iPhone 6 and 6 Plus seemed off weighed to the top of the phone, plus of course there's the whole bendgate thing with the plus's.... the Nexus 6 even though it can bind up in say jeans front pockets, it is sturdy enough to not bend... it feels conformed to the hand better as well. To use comfortably though it is definitely a 2-handed phone... not saying you couldn't one hand it for simple stuff but definitely take 2 hands to get full functionality. As for as the screen size, it is killer... I have to use a iPhone 6 for work and its like looking at houses from an airplane compared to my Nexus... I say get it... try it, you don't like... you can easily still sell and recoup all your money back... :good:

Omg thanks!! :d
TheAmazingDave said:
Have you handled a Nexus 7? If so, here's a comparison that might make more sense for you.
In reality, yes it's big, but not unwieldy. My Nexus 7 always went with me in my pocket, so of course, I don't have a problem with toting around the N6.
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Thanks a lot @TheAmazingDave for posting this comparison image. Yep I handled Nexus 7 once and it was like I could handle it. I was not able to put it in my pocket though. Nexus 6 is really smaller than Nexus 7 then imma buy it asap yay!!!

Pilz said:
Its quite easy to hold much like my old Nexus 7. I got rid of my Nexus 7 because I don't use it anyone and I didn't use my Nexus 9 as much either. I won a Nexus 9 but I'm still waiting for it to arrive and I may keep this one. What I'm getting it is the Nexus 6 is great and while it may not replace a tablet for everyone it made it easier for me to say good bye to my Nexus 7.
Here is a pic of the Nexus 6 next to my wife's Moto X 2014 (that was my first Nexus 6 with a matte black dbrand skin)
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@Pilz looks like your whole family loves Nexus and Moto devices lol jk
Well after seeing this pic I'm really satisfied and can peacefully buy a Nexus 6. Thanks for posting the pics

WOW
mahst68 said:
Had the iPhone 6 Plus when it first came out and absolutely from a phone design standpoint love my Nexus 6 much better beside being Android of course. iPhone 6 and 6 Plus seemed off weighed to the top of the phone, plus of course there's the whole bendgate thing with the plus's.... the Nexus 6 even though it can bind up in say jeans front pockets, it is sturdy enough to not bend... it feels conformed to the hand better as well. To use comfortably though it is definitely a 2-handed phone... not saying you couldn't one hand it for simple stuff but definitely take 2 hands to get full functionality. As for as the screen size, it is killer... I have to use a iPhone 6 for work and its like looking at houses from an airplane compared to my Nexus... I say get it... try it, you don't like... you can easily still sell and recoup all your money back... :good:
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Thanks @mahst68. Well my hands are of medium size so I think chatting with one hand under the table in the college while the teacher is giving lecture won't be possible with Nexus 6 XD . I was also wondering what if N6 gets bend if I put it in my front jeans pocket because I'm very skinny so as my jeans lol. My current device Xperia L also feels constraint that is very smaller in comparison to N6. But I'm glad after knowing that N6 is not that weak like Apple's so called beast lol. Thanks for sharing your thoughts

I've had my N6 since Dec 23, and to be honest, I'm still not used to the size. It is indeed large. Personally, something in between the N5 and N6 size-wise would be ideal for me, but oh well.
Because it's so large, they placed the power and volume buttons closer to the middle, so I find myself accidentally clicking them.
As well, because it's so large, it doesn't feel as balanced weight-wise as previous devices I've owned.
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efrant said:
I've had my N6 since Dec 23, and to be honest, I'm still not used to the size. It is indeed large. Personally, something in between the N5 and N6 size-wise would be ideal for me, but oh well.
Because it's so large, they placed the power and volume buttons closer to the middle, so I find myself accidentally clicking them.
As well, because it's so large, it doesn't feel as balanced weight-wise as previous devices I've owned.
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N5 was too big for me. N6 is way too big for me. I'm not going to let that stop me though

I came from the Mega 6.3, so the N6 is actually smaller!???
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Nexus 6 is too small for my liking. 5.96" screen should be more like 6.5" screen.

You do get used to the size though I say this took me about 2 weeks, within these first few weeks I seriously did consider taking it back, now I really do like the size.
Contrary to what people say, I even said it in the first few weeks, you can totally use this phone one handed for 80% of things.
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