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[Q] Galaxy S RAM ? Not 512mb?

Hello, both quadrant and setcpu show me 334Mb total RAM and 85mb free... quadrant also shows me 143Mb inactive RAM
wth?

This will be updated in 2.2FROYO where all 512MB RAM will be available for use.

AdamDowning said:
This will be updated in 2.2FROYO where all 512MB RAM will be available for use.
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Hopefully you are right, any source where i can see the official statement about this issue?

From another thread:
Sigh. No. No ROM ever will. This is because the radio firmware reserves a lump of RAM all to itself so that you can... you know... make and receive calls.
Can you imagine how annoyed you would be if you missed calls or SMSes just because you'd used up all the available memory?
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Some people commented:
that sounds interesting! you got a source for that? (datasheet, firmware changelog, article w/ credible source, etc.)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738928&page=47
Check that topic.

Interesting
On Verizon, Samsung Galaxy S appers to have only 384 mb of RAM... Samsung is lying to us!!!
Check engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/02/full-samsung-continuum-specs-leak-out-in-verizon-comparison-char/

boliveira2 said:
On Verizon, Samsung Galaxy S appers to have only 384 mb of RAM... Samsung is lying to us!!!
Check engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/02/full-samsung-continuum-specs-leak-out-in-verizon-comparison-char/
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As said in more threads sgs has 512 mb but you loose ram for kernel, shared memory and phone memory. At the end you have about 300 MB of available memory on stock kernel. So samsung doesn't lies.
Ciao Angelo

Omg is this thread for real? Someone delete it ffs.
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1: thread is from august
2: samsung now markets the sgs as 384megs of ram, but used to market it as 512megs.. so yes, yes it's arguable but in the end by making this change they agree they lied

bilboa1 said:
1: thread is from august
2: samsung now markets the sgs as 384megs of ram, but used to market it as 512megs.. so yes, yes it's arguable but in the end by making this change they agree they lied
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Link to where it is said as a 384MB device, coz currently we only have 350+ max usable but its unstable but the device functions wll at 340MB usable.
I wonder how the guys with the N1 reacted since they only see 192MB of their 512MB ram

bilboa1 said:
1: thread is from august
2: samsung now markets the sgs as 384megs of ram, but used to market it as 512megs.. so yes, yes it's arguable but in the end by making this change they agree they lied
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Where do they market as less than 512? And I hope that you are not using the Verizon picture as a basis to your reasoning.
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Oh darn, can i get a refund?
I demand my 512MB, i bought it when they were advertizing with it =/

EarlZ said:
I wonder how the guys with the N1 reacted since they only see 192MB of their 512MB ram
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N1 only saw ~200MB of RAM because a bug in Linux kernel. With the bug corrected you see 512MB of TOTAL RAM.
And yes, N1 owners complained about this. The difference is that there was a lot less fanboys defending Google or HTC about this matter.

Even the Tab has 444MB
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p1000_galaxy_tab-review-527p3.php
or
youtube.com/watch?v=EMLJOa2KFK0&feature=player_embedded
at the 37th second you'll see 444MB total while they advertize with "Internal 16/32 GB storage, 512 MB RAM"
and such a tab is even more expensive then a sgs.. =/

Oletros said:
N1 only saw ~200MB of RAM because a bug in Linux kernel. With the bug corrected you see 512MB of TOTAL RAM.
And yes, N1 owners complained about this. The difference is that there was a lot less fanboys defending Google or HTC about this matter.
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I'm 99% sure that's wrong. It wasn't a bug, it just didn't support larger amounts which was because of the way ARM was designed apparently. Linux was designed that way, and needed to be updated.
This is a totally different situation, and not sure why billboa is claiming that samsung now markets the SGS as 384mb of ram either. I have seen NO evidence of that, and if that's true, please show proof the SGS is being marketed as 384mb.
I agree that we do need more spare RAM to be available (especially in the froyo leaks, which may be betas anyway) and the currently-reserved RAM to be allocated dynamically when needed, so there is more ram available at other times. RAM allocation is cheap afterall.

andrewluecke said:
I'm 99% sure that's wrong. It wasn't a bug, it just didn't support larger amounts which was because of the way ARM was designed apparently. Linux was designed that way, and needed to be updated.
This is a totally different situation, and not sure why billboa is claiming that samsung now markets the SGS as 384mb of ram either. I have seen NO evidence of that, and if that's true, please show proof the SGS is being marketed as 384mb.
I agree that we do need more spare RAM to be available (especially in the froyo leaks, which may be betas anyway) and the currently-reserved RAM to be allocated dynamically when needed, so there is more ram available at other times. RAM allocation is cheap afterall.
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Check the link from the specs hosted by engadget.

bilboa1 said:
Check the link from the specs hosted by engadget.
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You mean the link in this thread? Because those point to custom models. Just because one Xbox includes a HDD for instance, doesn't mean all models do. I'm still having serious trouble finding any evidence that Samsung are advertising the international unit as 384MB of RAM..

Oletros said:
With the bug corrected you see 512MB of TOTAL RAM.
Is this based on theory or actual experience, because on the N1 that Im holding right now shows only x/192MB and its 2.2.1
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EarlZ said:
Is this based on theory or actual experience, because on the N1 that Im holding right now shows only x/192MB and its 2.2.1
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Well, maybe it's not a N1 you are holding? What about a screenshot?
I can show you a picture of two devices side by side: N1 (FRG83) showing 390MB and i9000 (FROYO.JHJP8) with only 304MB.

I have a Galaxy S model GT-I9000B ( brazilian version from VIVO carrier )
I flashed froyo BVJJPD and my ram manager says I have only 304 MB RAM.
weird.

Sigh
The galaxy s actual does have 512mb of RAM inside it. Out of that 512mb, 128mb is used by the gpu or something involving the hardware(I don't really know where so not going to pretend I do). Then out of the remaining 384mb some is used by the system. I say some cos different kernels use a different amount.
Like on damiangtos 2.2 kernel there was 360mb of ram free at one point.

ICS on 512MB a problem?

Just wondering... is 512MB going to be a problem with ICS?
(It's a simple question I know)

Scougar said:
Just wondering... is 512MB going to be a problem with ICS?
(It's a simple question I know)
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I'm writing this from CM9 ICS alpha and runs perfect, don't worry for that
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No, it shouldn't be a problem.
But please post such things in the ICS discussion thread!

Flix123 said:
No, it shouldn't be a problem.
But please post such things in the ICS discussion thread!
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Thanks and apologies. I had wondered if getting a 1GB model phone would have been a significant advantage.
(Mod feel free to move the question to a post in the discussion thread).

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Thanks and apologies. I had wondered if getting a 1GB model phone would have been a significant advantage.
(Mod feel free to move the question to a post in the discussion thread).
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You can almost guarantee that a 1GB model will be better. The Optimus 2X does struggle with it's 512 mb, because 128mb is attributed to the GPU. Lukily, some kernels, like IronKrnl free some of that memory up and give it back to the CPU, but it's still losing 80mb.
Also, it's worth noting that, if you want to run ICS, if you look at the phones out that have 1gb of ram, you'll see they're all actually better phones- especially what Samsung make.
So, while the O2X is a cheap dual-core device. The best experience will come with something with 1gb of RAM, as it's much more likely to also get ICS. (Due in part because most 1gb phones have already had an announcement, and for it to be soon)

ICS is very hungry in memory. On my Asus Tablet running official, my 1GB RAM is fully used, as usual in Linux but at a higher level than in GB.
To run ICS correctly on O2X, you must use IronKrnl, the 48mb ramhack version is correct (means it steals 48MB to GPU, leaving only 80MB to it), and modifying memory killer values to a sort of aggressive profile.

Yea right, so this is why I had less free memory on GB. And now I have CM kernel on ICS. I doubt you actually tried CM9 alpha on O2X if you are talking crap like this about performance.
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The browser in ICS works better even though we have 512MB. It always returned to where I had left. 512 and less is enough for full desktop environments on PC even.

Ph4nt0m_ said:
Yea right, so this is why I had less free memory on GB. And now I have CM kernel on ICS. I doubt you actually tried CM9 alpha on O2X if you are talking crap like this about performance.
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See my sig and stop arguing. I run CM9 since first day Ricardo published SK0, and now running SK2 with latest Ironkrnl. Setiron himself admitted on Google+that ICS is a memory eater.

Dont know how much free memory we're talking about here but I'm on SK2 with original CM9 kernel. Using Adv.Task Killer from time to time and I always have around 200-240 Mb free memory. Just sharing my experience

Running CM9 aswell and its sooooo smooth, faster than any rom ive tried

OK, so what happens when you want to run Tegra games? (like Dungeon Defenders for example). A shame you cannot dynamically set the ram hack :-(

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OK, so what happens when you want to run Tegra games? (like Dungeon Defenders for example). A shame you cannot dynamically set the ram hack :-(
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That's the real question... Free memory when phone is idle means nothing. Plus you have to consider the lowmemkiller values you have set, I personnally use aggressive values: 16 24 32 90 100 110 to free the most possible memory.
Many users report freezes with games that run perfectly on GB. The problem or ramhack is choosing the right value for gaming, it seems 48mb version is the best compromise. A 'on the fly' feature was not planned for the moment by Setiron in one of his G+ posts.

Mjuksel said:
Running CM9 aswell and its sooooo smooth, faster than any rom ive tried
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That has no direct link with OP. But it's true it's smooth lol.

Striatum_bdr said:
That has no direct link with OP. But it's true it's smooth lol.
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It does. In low memory situations ICS seems to keep running better and smoother compared to GB. If you get under 40mb free on GB everythings gets very slow, with ICS it seems to handle it a bit more elegantly from a user experience.

Please don't think I'm pesimistic here, I'm just going off the comments: Given that OEM releases tend to be bloated and memory wasteful, it's not looking great for an LG ICS release that is 'fully' working. If they pull it off and allow tegra games to run, then I'll be impressed

the official release from LG should be more efficient, and once you remove bloatwares, it should be quite a charm

Hi,
The Google Nexus S also has only 512Mb, and a certain amount of those allocated to GPU (though I don't remember how many), and ICS works like a charm on it... So I think it shouldn't be a problem on our O2X! :-D

hearoy said:
Hi,
The Google Nexus S also has only 512Mb, and a certain amount of those allocated to GPU (though I don't remember how many), and ICS works like a charm on it... So I think it shouldn't be a problem on our O2X! :-D
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It has the same config (128 for the GPU, 384 of available RAM) and works really fine.
Obviously a full gigabyte would be awesome.
Cheers!

Im typing using my optimus one running icss.
NOTE: my phone can only be over clocked till 729mhz.
So for our 2x it will be no prob.
Just need propriety files.
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[Q] Ice Cream Sandwich Should be available for SGA

Please don't consider it as a "another ICS blah blah... thread"
Just check this product from HTC:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_c-4759.php
Processor: 600
Resolution: 320 x 480 pixels
So Our SGA is way better than this phone by HTC. The most interesting feature for this phone is "OS Android OS, v4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)"
On Xda, some days before I read a thread where expert developer confidently said that "Ice Cream Sandwich requires more processing frequency than that of SGA which is 800 and even it can not run on overclocking. So guys just forget about ICS on SGA."
So now what you guys wanna say?? If this HTC handset can RUN official ICS on 600 then why not our SGA??
Your clarification will help all of us!!
Regards,
Adwait

This has been said and discussed a lot of times here TBH.
regardless of whatever someone says our ACE is capable of running ICS but samsung SIMPLY REFUSE to support their older devices and so the fact of the matter is we will NOT GET OFFICIAL ICS. CM9 and AOKP is our best bet.

but can't we use the ICS of this HTC handset to port for our SGA?? CM9 is really a good option but it's modification! I mean to say stock 4.0 for SGA

That device uses cortex A8(armv7) processor,+512 mb ram.And ace has 278 user available ram+armv6 processor.Stock ICS needs 384 mb user available ram to correctly use/render API level 14 of 4.0.CM9 by galaxyics uses binary patches and kernel hacks if you see their sources.Therefore the performance boost ICS gives,is not visible because API level 14 neccessities are not met.Moreover i consider CM9 for ace just eyecandy(thats personal opinion).And I am pretty satisfied by gingerbread.Android 4 for ace would have made sense if it had 500+mb ram and 1ghz+ armv7 processor.What use is an OS if it reduces performance of your device

side_effect said:
That device uses cortex A8(armv7) processor,+512 mb ram.And ace has 278 user available ram+armv6 processor.Stock ICS needs 384 mb user available ram to correctly use/render API level 14 of 4.0.CM9 by galaxyics uses binary patches and kernel hacks if you see their sources.Therefore the performance boost ICS gives,is not visible because API level 14 neccessities are not met.Moreover i consider CM9 for ace just eyecandy(thats personal opinion).And I am pretty satisfied by gingerbread.Android 4 for ace would have made sense if it had 500+mb ram and 1ghz+ armv7 processor.What use is an OS if it reduces performance of your device
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oh gr8!! Now this reply satisfied my question!! Thanks a ton!!

side_effect said:
That device uses cortex A8(armv7) processor,+512 mb ram.And ace has 278 user available ram+armv6 processor.Stock ICS needs 384 mb user available ram to correctly use/render API level 14 of 4.0.CM9 by galaxyics uses binary patches and kernel hacks if you see their sources.Therefore the performance boost ICS gives,is not visible because API level 14 neccessities are not met.Moreover i consider CM9 for ace just eyecandy(thats personal opinion).And I am pretty satisfied by gingerbread.Android 4 for ace would have made sense if it had 500+mb ram and 1ghz+ armv7 processor.What use is an OS if it reduces performance of your device
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This....Its not just the processing power that decides the performances.armv6 is pretty extinct now,no more support.
Sent from my fingers to your face,take it or leave it.

according to samsung even galaxy s is not capable so
dont buy samsung mid range from next time thats only solution

Prawesome said:
This....Its not just the processing power that decides the performances.armv6 is pretty extinct now,no more support.
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Samsung devs and others are forget the armv6 devices they carrier into armv7. for me armv6 are same good as armv7 you right they not support the armv6 now its like a garbage.. zzz

+1 Never buy a mid and low range Samsung device. Go for Sony.
This was sent from my Galaxy Ace, but who cares?

nims11 said:
according to samsung even galaxy s is not capable so
dont buy samsung mid range from next time thats only solution
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yeah..they stated Device dont have enough ram to support tw4

side_effect said:
yeah..they stated Device dont have enough ram to support tw4
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but galaxy s already have port of s2 tw4 ics rom

Well its ol bull**** coz i have SGfit and running cm9 successfully its really smooth i use it fr daily use.....
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maxcool12345 said:
Well its ol bull**** coz i have SGfit and running cm9 successfully its really smooth i use it fr daily use.....
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camera works?
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Thnkz to mclaw
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nims11 said:
but galaxy s already have port of s2 tw4 ics rom
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XDA rulez..!!BTW you did paranoid android?

side_effect said:
XDA rulez..!!BTW you did paranoid android?
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yep but its not good for our small screen

Aww sad..

side_effect said:
Aww sad..
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not sad if you have not problem with small layout then no problem as due to small screen in tablet mode stuff looks small so if you have problem you can choose phone ui then all stuff will be same as cm9

nims11 said:
not sad if you have not problem with small layout then no problem as due to small screen in tablet mode stuff looks small so if you have problem you can choose phone ui then all stuff will be same as cm9
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any plans to release it?may with a suitable dpi we can adjust it little bit

side_effect said:
any plans to release it?may with a suitable dpi we can adjust it little bit
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if all want then will realese after beta9

IS IT REALLY 2 gb ram ??

im facing a huge problem now .. when im playing dead trigger 2 and if i go home and make a call and went back to game it restarts it self !! so why this for ??

Is not about how many GB of ram do you have but about how many application still open in background.
How do you go back to the game? I mean after finish the call you click on the Dead Trigger 2 icon on desktop?

no from recent menu !!

Ok, so when you made a call the phone needs more ram and practically Android kill all the unnecessary apps in background and one of them is the game which eat pretty much ram. It's happen to me too with heavy games. Almost all of them.

I have the same problem... thats something I can't just ignore. Android should be the multitasking king compared to systems like iOS and WindowsPhone because of things like the priority of processes...

AntiDroid said:
I have the same problem... thats something I can't just ignore. Android should be the multitasking king compared to systems like iOS and WindowsPhone because of things like the priority of processes...
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Of curse but actually games are not priority to android and that how it's working. With small games this not happen because they use less ram. For android the ram is the only matter.

eclyptos said:
Of curse but actually games are not priority to android and that how it's working. With small games this not happen because they use less ram. For android the ram is the only matter.
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I know. Every process has the same priority.
When I first read about the Android RAM management, I thought: "Wow, great idea", but know I see the result compared to other system using the "old one" and I am just jealous.. :/ 2 GB should be more than enough to keep it while switching the app for ~ 30 seconds, I hope 4.4 does it better

i can multitask with my brother"s iphone 4s better than my z1 !! i played dead trigger 2 and made a call then returned back to the game and every thing is ok !!

Mohaakotb said:
i can multitask with my brother"s iphone 4s better than my z1 !! i played dead trigger 2 and made a call then returned back to the game and every thing is ok !!
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iOS is NOT Android.

theoretical number of ram is 2 but the actual size is around 1.9gb more or less depending on the device, even in PC's its the same!
for example, a 320GB hdd is only 298gb in actual size as the other reserved for cache and HDD firmware!
u don't find the full exact numbers as i explained to you

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iOS is NOT Android.
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Did he say that it is android? He just twisted the knife

Nidhal AKA the king said:
theoretical number of ram is 2 but the actual size is around 1.9gb more or less depending on the device, even in PC's its the same!
for example, a 320GB hdd is only 298gb in actual size as the other reserved for cache and HDD firmware!
u don't find the full exact numbers as i explained to you
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This is only partially true.
HDD Manufacturers like to measure HDD sizes using the decimal system which means 1GB = 10^9 (= 1000000000) Bytes. In other technical appliances they are measured using the binary system meaning 1GB (more correctly 1Gibibyte) = 2^30 (= 1073741824) Bytes. File systems are measured using the binary systems, this is why one could think an HDD has less storage than what is written on.
Ram uses the binary system, so 2 GB of Ram mean 2048 MB. The reason why there is less then 2 GB available is because part of it is being reserved for the GPU, much like on Computers with integrated graphics.

OfficerTux said:
This is only partially true.
HDD Manufacturers like to measure HDD sizes using the decimal system which means 1GB = 10^9 (= 1000000000) Bytes. In other technical appliances they are measured using the binary system meaning 1GB (more correctly 1Gibibyte) = 2^30 (= 1073741824) Bytes. File systems are measured using the binary systems, this is why one could think an HDD has less storage than what is written on.
Ram uses the binary system, so 2 GB of Ram mean 2024 MB. The reason why there is less then 2 GB available is because part of it is being reserved for the GPU, much like on Computers with integrated graphics.
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yeah i know, i totally agree
he thought he'd find the full amount of ram as 2gb in the specs!

Anyway I would also like a refined app priority system. I do like Androids Ram Management in general, but it is quite annoying that large games need to reload just because you switch apps for some seconds.

OfficerTux said:
Ram uses the binary system, so 2 GB of Ram mean 2024 MB. The reason why there is less then 2 GB available is because part of it is being reserved for the GPU, much like on Computers with integrated graphics.
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I think you mean 2048 MB The rest is spot on - reserved RAM has *nothing* to do with the binary vs. decimal issues found in hard drives.

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I think you mean 2048 MB The rest is spot on - reserved RAM has *nothing* to do with the binary vs. decimal issues found in hard drives.
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Corrected

OfficerTux said:
Anyway I would also like a refined app priority system. I do like Androids Ram Management in general, but it is quite annoying that large games need to reload just because you switch apps for some seconds.
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The solution for don't lose the progress on games is to turn on the Airplane mode before gaming so no body can interrupt the progress...ahahah...
Anyway seems like a joke but did you imagine that, after 1 hour somebody call you and you loose everything in the game...:crying:

Where's the lag?

I've looked at every YouTube video and I can't find any lag on the S5. I remember last year at this time and the S4 was lagging and stuttering all over the place. Is S-Lag really gone?

You will see lags coming with a bang!

calvin35 said:
I've looked at every YouTube video and I can't find any lag on the S5. I remember last year at this time and the S4 was lagging and stuttering all over the place. Is S-Lag really gone?
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kitkat changed most of that. and especially with the snapdragon. my note 3 is on JB, but it's really smooth with the snapdragon lol

If the new note pro or tab pro is anything to go by, there will be lag lol
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Granted it's not the S4, but even when it was stock my S3 never had any lag...

I actually saw a video with some Sutter, I think it was on Android central but I'm not sure
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barondebxl said:
I actually saw a video with some Sutter, I think it was on Android central but I'm not sure
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Correct their "hands-on" video.

Joe0113 said:
Correct their "hands-on" video.
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Yep, it did Sutter.
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I did see lag still.
You can clearly see the animations aren't as fast as say the Nexus 5 or Z2.
What a disappointment...

I saw lag in one of the hands on videos showing the new lock screen. It's going to be there unless they fully re-optimize their software. Why they didn't with the 5th generation galaxy phone, I will never understand.

With an 8+GB ROM and only 2GB of user RAM, it will lag or stutter just as much as the GS4.

Baldilocks said:
With an 8+GB ROM and only 2GB of user RAM, it will lag or stutter just as much as the GS4.
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The rom is only 5.28gb.

vbetts said:
The rom is only 5.28gb.
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Excuse me, the ROM plus all the bloatware is 8+ GB.

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With an 8+GB ROM and only 2GB of user RAM, it will lag or stutter just as much as the GS4.
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What has size of ROM got to do with RAM??

CLARiiON said:
What has size of ROM got to do with RAM??
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It'll chew away at your ram since the ROM is causing the phone to bog down my GN3 on stock rom 2.2 GB out of my 3 GB of ram is eaten up with just the phone being on and all the processes stopped so get ready for it because the Stock roms chew up your ram and spit it out Bigger ROM more processes that the RAM needs to have account for which means less ram for the user

there u go :silly:
yahyoh said:
mother of lag
http://youtu.be/2D051uDJNt8?t=41s
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Baldilocks said:
With an 8+GB ROM and only 2GB of user RAM, it will lag or stutter just as much as the GS4.
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i bet it will stutter even worse with more bloat and the same ram
edit : does the contacts and Dialer apps still take 2 - 5 second to open ? :/

unholyfatman said:
It'll chew away at your ram since the bloatware is causing the phone to bog down my GN3 on stock rom 2.2 GB out of my 3 GB of ram is eaten up with just the phone being on and all the processes stopped so get ready for it because the Stock roms chew up your ram and spit it out
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So? you still have 2.2 GB free RAM? right?? And don't forget out of that used RAM, GPU will take a big chunk. It's not just the bloat, but other things as well. Google's services are that light either.
When was the last time you had full 3GB of RAM consumed (or 2GB in other phones)?

CLARiiON said:
So? you still have 2.2 GB free RAM? right?? And don't forget out of that used RAM, GPU will take a big chunk. It's not just the bloat, but other things as well. Google's services are that light either.
When was the last time you had full 3GB of RAM consumed (or 2GB in other phones)?
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No it uses about 2.2 GB I only have about .8 GB of ram and honestly I hit the wall quite often I'm a heavy user I have a bunch of background processes running with auto updates so it takes up quite a chunk I will be flashing a new ROM clean rom most likely to solve the issue

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there u go :silly:
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i bet it will stutter even worse with more bloat and the same ram
edit : does the contacts and Dialer apps still take 2 - 5 second to open ? :/
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It's a pre-production device, c'mon, don't be a moron.

dandroid13 said:
It's a pre-production device, c'mon, don't be a moron.
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+ 1,000,000,000 Agreed.
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