Who would buy my Incredible S!? - HTC Incredible S

hey guys,
IF IF IF IF IF IF i was to sell my phone, who would buy it and what would you offer? it was bought in may this year and has had a screen protector and case since day one

naathaanb96 said:
hey guys,
IF IF IF IF IF IF i was to sell my phone, who would buy it and what would you offer? it was bought in may this year and has had a screen protector and case since day one
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You might wanna try the WTS section of xda.
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Just post it on e-bay for $100
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Yep sounds aboout right. If its rooted and unlocked maybe even a bit more.
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firescotti255 said:
Yep sounds aboout right. If its rooted and unlocked maybe even a bit more.
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You might be right, if the device is unlocked. The best value, in my opinion, is an unlocked, unrooted phone.

glussier said:
You might be right, if the device is unlocked. The best value, in my opinion, is an unlocked, unrooted phone.
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im pretty sure its locked to optus. i can ring up and get it unlocked

itsbeertimenow said:
Just post it on e-bay for $100
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HTC Desire goes over 100$ with price, so I think it shoud be a bit more than that.

haven't l0st.prophet broke up his incs and needs now a new one?

I think most of the devs that say there phone is broken or lost probably just don't want to develop on an outdated phone.
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nathaanb96 There's something about your signature that just pisses me off
itsbeertimenow I don't blame them, this device is not much fun to develop on. Take a look in my thread at the "For how I'm can install dis kornals " mentality

Nonverbose said:
nathaanb96 There's something about your signature that just pisses me off
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Can't quite put my finger on it

Nonverbose said:
nathaanb96 There's something about your signature that just pisses me off
itsbeertimenow I don't blame them, this device is not much fun to develop on. Take a look in my thread at the "For how I'm can install dis kornals " mentality
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hahaha. i think i know what that may be

naathaanb96 said:
hahaha. i think i know what that may be
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I think you hit the nail on the head

Nonverbose said:
I think you hit the nail on the head
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i think you might like it now

Nonverbose said:
nathaanb96 There's something about your signature that just pisses me off
itsbeertimenow I don't blame them, this device is not much fun to develop on. Take a look in my thread at the "For how I'm can install dis kornals " mentality
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OP, I think $100 - $150 if in good condition, Nath, have to agree with Nonverbose, that is a seriously short ping, (if that is what he was on about ) you must live next door to server lol...
I can't compete as I'm using hotspot shield to ping off a fake server... but this is "close" to home lol

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OP, I think $100 - $150 if in good condition, Nath, have to agree with Nonverbose, that is a seriously short ping, (if that is what he was on about ) you must live next door to server lol...
I can't compete as I'm using hotspot shield to ping off a fake server... but this is "close" to home lol
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the closest exchange is in another suburb LOL.
and he was talking about the big ass sig i used to have.

I bought my Incs off ebay back in November for a "buy it now" price of $140(AUS). It was unlocked, only used previously for about 2 months, and it was in great condition. It didn't look used at all. All the other unlocked ones around that time period were selling for anywhere from $160 all the way up to $190 so I reckon I got a great deal. It probably helped that I saw noticed listing less than 3 hours after he listed it. I wasn't even planning on getting an HTC to begin with, but I saw how cheap this one was and thought I better snap it up before someone else got it.

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XTC Clip buy for Canada

Any of you canucks wanna chip in and buy a xtc clip?
I'm down, but gonna have to wait a week or 2 first because I have a lot of stuff going on with grad that's costing me money. I PM'd another guy who's from the Vancouver area on here too about this thread, hopefully he'll see it soon!
Winnipeg checking in
I might be in depending on cost, and how exactly we go about this.
Vancouver here.
But not so quick guys, read somewhere that XTC chlip don't work on Bell IS...
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Post #79
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1876539/+78
..and someone talked about that on this forum somewhere too
bebolf said:
Vancouver here.
But not so quick guys, read somewhere that XTC chlip don't work on Bell IS...
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1876539/+78
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Ugh, i'm pretty dissapointed with HTC locking us out.
I should never have sold my Desire for this... i'm not a fan at all of SenseUI after months of problem free CM7 on my Desire, I don't care if we get 2.3.3 OTA.
I think i'm going to return my phone and get the Nexus S.
I actually had the Nexus S before this phone. Loved it! No bloatware and easily rooted. Was running CM7 on it wonderfully! The only reason I returned it was coz I got headaches from looking at the screen for more than 5 min. Yeah, I'm weird.
So, what's the deal with the XTC clip? Doesn't work on our Bell phones?
And I'm not sure how to get one and how much it would be, either. lol Anybody have an idea?
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I actually have the Nexus S before this phone. Loved it! No bloatware and easily rooted. Was running CM7 on it wonderfully! The only reason I returned it was coz I got headaches from looking at the screen for more than 5 min. Yeah, I'm weird.
So, what's the deal with the XTC clip? Doesn't work on our Bell phones?
And I'm not sure how to get one and how much it would be, either. lol Anybody have an idea?
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No idea here either, and I wouldn't want to invest if I don't know for sure it'll work on Bell IS.
Yes nexus s is very nice, especially its excellent support from Google directly. But I tried holding nexus and IS in each hand and I gotta say it felt like IS has more in it
TBO I am pretty happy with 2.2.1 on my IS (I'm coming from SE x10 ...) Awesome HTC Sense, rarely experience any lag, good reception, nice screen, decent in-call volume, plus just read Gingerbread upgrade will give you unpleasantly bigger font (lol)...
Haha just trying to cope with this whole s-on and late GB upgrade depression, but I'm gonna try to stay hopeful anyways!
Cheers,
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No idea here either, and I wouldn't want to invest if I don't know for sure it'll work on Bell IS.
Yes nexus s is very nice, especially its excellent support from Google directly. But I tried holding nexus and IS in each hand and I gotta say it felt like IS has more in it
TBO I am pretty happy with 2.2.1 on my IS (I'm coming from SE x10 ...) Awesome HTC Sense, rarely experience any lag, good reception, nice screen, decent in-call volume, plus just read Gingerbread upgrade will give you unpleasantly bigger font (lol)...
Haha just trying to cope with this whole s-on and late GB upgrade depression, but I'm gonna try to stay hopeful anyways!
Cheers,
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Yeah, I know what you mean. The nexus s totally felt light and cheap. I'm pretty happy with my IS (I don't use HTC Sense).
But it would definitely be nice to be able to get GB...
Anybody else heard about the xtc clip not working on the bell IS?
kattara said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. The nexus s totally felt light and cheap. I'm pretty happy with my IS (I don't use HTC Sense).
But it would definitely be nice to be able to get GB...
Anybody else heard about the xtc clip not working on the bell IS?
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Hmm we'll probably be getting GB sooner than seeing IS rooted...
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Hmm we'll probably be getting GB sooner than seeing IS rooted...
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Sad... But that's why we should get a xtc clip!
kattara said:
Sad... But that's why we should get a xtc clip!
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For other similar HTC phones that work on Rogers/Fido 3G and are either Desire/Desire HD or IS.
Perhaps I should have gotten the Desire HD hehe
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Sad... But that's why we should get a xtc clip!
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Not 100% certain but I'm darn sure I read somewhere that someone has already tried xtc clip on Bell IS, and I have tried the gold card method myself with no luck!
http://forums.phone-tools.cn/showthread.php/37528-Bell-Incredible-S-and-XTC-Clip
Now that says it all
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bebolf said:
http://forums.phone-tools.cn/showthread.php/37528-Bell-Incredible-S-and-XTC-Clip
Now that says it all
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Oh wow... That really sucks!!
But if Raskal works out a update for Bell IS, I would love to chip in for the xtc clip for sure.
As for the pricing info, WWW.xtc.hk
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bebolf said:
But if Raskal works out a update for Bell IS, I would love to chip in for the xtc clip for sure.
As for the pricing info, WWW.xtc.hk
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Well, if we get like just over 10 of us willing to chip in, it'll only be $10 each.
Of course, once Raskal does his magic...
I would be willing to chip in as well for it once Raskal gets it working for us
Breadwinka said:
I would be willing to chip in as well for it once Raskal gets it working for us
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Sweet!! Let's hope that will be soon!
I agree my Virgin Mobile HTC Incredible S is waiting to get S-OFF. and if it doesnt happen soon Ill just sell it and get the Samsung Galaxy S2 with my 30% discount a Virgin Mobile when it comes out.
I'm another Vancouverite who would be interested in chipping in for a XTC Clip.

Radar Detectors? Which to Buy

Im trying to buy a detector and off the bat heres the things:
Money is an issue i dont feel like spending more than 120$
I want something thats good and doesn't false alarm all the damn time
Something thats user friendly
I have looked at a few myself but i want to hear your thoughts
What do you guys think about the Cobra XRS 9550g and 9645,9745,9845?
Any others is fine but i dont want them to be so annoying i heard a few whistlers and they dont whistle they "WINE" lol
Any responses are appreciated that will help me out
Any Insight is appreciated TIA
I know that $120 is kinda cheap for a decent one. Also, make sure u hide it well. That's all I got
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I know that $120 is kinda cheap for a decent one. Also, make sure u hide it well. That's all I got
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well on amazon there much cheaper but just wondering if someone can give me a down to the get go for which i would be best off with and if its worth it?
And i live in texas so there actually LEGAL haha. no need to hide them
Just don't speed? Makes more sense to me...
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Just don't speed? Makes more sense to me...
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its not about speeding it about being aware of much more, so many people think that oh i need a radar so i dont get caught. NO thats not my point and thats not why i want one.
XxLostSoulxX said:
its not about speeding it about being aware of much more, so many people think that oh i need a radar so i dont get caught. NO thats not my point and thats not why i want one.
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Not being argumentative in the slightest - I'd just stay out if I was - you've sparked my curiosity. What else are they for then? I thought they were literally just for telling you about speed traps.
Archer said:
Not being argumentative in the slightest - I'd just stay out if I was - you've sparked my curiosity. What else are they for then? I thought they were literally just for telling you about speed traps.
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your not argumentative at all, but they have many uses like for instance the GPS modules tell your speed, red light cameras, accuracy on speed.
The bands it has like for instance a 15 band has 7 types of radars, 6 lasers, and 2 safety signals. like when a firetruck or emergency vehicles, etc...
several other reasons too, just gives you a warning doesn't give you the GO to speed.
*bump* does anyone use them?? i would like some advice on them
Just make sure it doesn't show up on the police's radar, Cause mine did and they took it... It was long time ago, so maybe the new one's are better
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Just make sure it doesn't show up on the police's radar, Cause mine did and they took it... It was long time ago, so maybe the new one's are better
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Some of the newer ones do not show up but also in Texas they are legal
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Don't waste your money on a Cobra. When they came out 30 years ago they were the best, but they have fallen seriously behind.
Look at Escort/Beltronics. They're the same company but I think they still sell under both names. Best radar detectors out there hands down.
And make sure they are legal in the state you plan on using it. The fines and hassle of getting caught are much much worse than the speeding ticket.
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frostedunit said:
Don't waste your money on a Cobra. When they came out 30 years ago they were the best, but they have fallen seriously behind.
Look at Escort/Beltronics. They're the same company but I think they still sell under both names. Best radar detectors out there hands down.
And make sure they are legal in the state you plan on using it. The fines and hassle of getting caught are much much worse than the speeding ticket.
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Dude my post above just said they were legal haha and like I already stated I don't have that kind of money nothing more than 120$ sorry 500$ is just fricking ridicolous.
But for cobra what would you recommend?
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if you are going to get one, get a good one, with laser detection and such
those will cost you about $300, starts at around $250
they do work, except for when the come is hidding beneath your windshield level of view
LOL that's the only time they got me
they should invent X-Ray detectors so it can monitor through under the hood, then you'll get a nice 360 monitoring
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if you are going to get one, get a good one, with laser detection and such
those will cost you about $300, starts at around $250
they do work, except for when the come is hidding beneath your windshield level of view
LOL that's the only time they got me
they should invent X-Ray detectors so it can monitor through under the hood, then you'll get a nice 360 monitoring
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X-ray also give out radiation, dont want a radiative hood lol
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X-ray also give out radiation, dont want a radiative hood lol
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that.............
AllGamer said:
if you are going to get one, get a good one, with laser detection and such
those will cost you about $300, starts at around $250
they do work, except for when the come is hidding beneath your windshield level of view
LOL that's the only time they got me
they should invent X-Ray detectors so it can monitor through under the hood, then you'll get a nice 360 monitoring
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And please read OP because i don't have that kind of money as stated several times.
So please everyone please just tell me anything good in the 100$ Range THanks
XxLostSoulxX said:
that.............
And please read OP because i don't have that kind of money as stated several times.
So please everyone please just tell me anything good in the 100$ Range THanks
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Honestly,in that price range,I would just wait on getting one. They typically won't do enough to warrant spending 100-120. if you can't get at least an 8500 x50, I wouldn't waste my money. I wouldn't buy anything under 200.
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jburnette87 said:
Honestly,in that price range,I would just wait on getting one. They typically won't do enough to warrant spending 100-120. if you can't get at least an 8500 x50, I wouldn't waste my money. I wouldn't buy anything under 200.
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Can you honestly tell me how that escor would be better than a 9550g Cobra? Because cobra is made by Bel and Escort is the same company is Bel
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Can you honestly tell me how that escor would be better than a 9550g Cobra? Because cobra is made by Bel and Escort is the same company is Bel
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I've owned a cobra. Be it an older cheaper model from like 02. But like I said, "I" wouldn't buy anything less than an x50. I couldn't justify it. For the price,I'm sure it's a decent RD judging from a quick search, just not something I would buy.
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Anything under $300 won't do you much good. Look up the Valentine 1, passport escort, or belltronics sti. They are well known and respected. You can do some research at radarroy.com its pretty informative
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Buy a used phone to use for the Trade In Offer?

So is there a reason why we couldn't just buy a used phone (i.e. I saw some Evo 4g's on Craigslist for $50) and make a profit with the $100 HTC One Trade In Program? Just thought of this today and wanted to check with everyone in case it'd be a bad idea for any reason.
Joshnor713 said:
So is there a reason why we couldn't just buy a used phone (i.e. I saw some Evo 4g's on Craigslist for $50) and make a profit with the $100 HTC One Trade In Program? Just thought of this today and wanted to check with everyone in case it'd be a bad idea for any reason.
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nope, but make sure the phone is of value first, many phones are actually worth nothing.
bobruels44 said:
nope, but make sure the phone is of value first, many phones are actually worth nothing.
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As from my example, the OG Evo 4g is worth a small amount. So essentially, if I pay $50 for it, I could make $50 out of it. I'd rather do this and save my current phone as a backup.
the conditions did say that the trade in phone had to be active and used on your account but I am not sure how they would verify that..
My phones got a cracked screen is that gonna fly or no
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I recall reading you need to provide proof of purchase of your trade in also. That's part of what's holding me back from trading in the GSII I have.
Edit: I was all kinds of wrong. It's with the proof of HTC One purchase... :banghead:
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My phones got a cracked screen is that gonna fly or no
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I"m pretty sure it's gonna fly on the recycling center without you getting any. I read on the terms that the phone should have no damage at all(except wear at tear). And if you sent a phone that doesn't meet the criteria they're not gonna return it and you won't get anything.
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I recall reading you need to provide proof of purchase of your trade in also. That's part of what's holding me back from trading in the GSII I have.
Edit: I was all kinds of wrong. It's with the proof of HTC One purchase... :banghead:
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Are you sure? I read the terms and it sure does seem like you need to provide proof of purchase for the device you're trading in..
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you only need proof of purchase for the HTC one. it says that the phone youre trading in has to have been active but i dont know how theyd actually check on that. especially if youre trading in a phone with a hot swappable SIM card.

[Q] First idiot to shatter htc one screen?

So so gutted! Only had the htc one for a week and it feel out of my pocket onto my solid slate kitchen floor and well lets just say it couldnt have been a better face plant! Didnt even touch the sides...just face down slap bang on the floor!
Am I the first?
To top it off no insurance.......and no repair shops that either stock the parts as is so new out and if the tear down tests are anything to go by its a pig to even replace a screen! Just my luck.....only one thing I could do which is to get it repaired by htc.
Being shipped off tomorrow and im dredding the email that is going to rob me me of my hard earned ££££.
Anybody had experiance with htc repairs?
The OP was useful as a warning to us all. Sorry for you.
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drspikes said:
The OP was useful as a warning to us all. Sorry for you.
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A warning that glass smashes? Better be careful now
'didn't even touch the sides....' .... You know its been a good weekend if you havn't heard that once
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The OP was useful as a warning to us all. Sorry for you.
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Im seeing the funny side anyway, im just curious as to how much htc are going to charge me for the repairs
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'didn't even touch the sides....' .... You know its been a good weekend if you havn't heard that once
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Probably not the best way I could have worded that
Please let us know when you find out. I very much doubt you're the 1st and you certainly won't be the last.
Here's hoping you manage to get fixed and become a regular member here on xda.
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Tetsumi06 said:
Please let us know when you find out. I very much doubt you're the 1st and you certainly won't be the last.
Here's hoping you manage to get fixed and become a regular member here on xda.
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Thank you I will keep you updated, I can imagine it will be in the £200 mark, from what I saw from the tear down test you have to take everything out just to get the screen detached, we will see
Wow man, i bet you;ll have a case before your next One then? Ouch, sorry dude!
sorry to hear that mate. there goes the so called gorilla glass.
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Wow man, i bet you;ll have a case before your next One then? Ouch, sorry dude!
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Funny thing is I got the free flip case with the phone but I took it out while I was indoors becuase the phone is to nice to be hidden away in a case.....lesson learnt lol
Ouch!, hope they don't charge a rediculous amount mate, I added T-Mobile insurance this morning as soon as mine arrived in fear of the same happening to me :S...
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Gorilla glass isn't impervious.op..your going to be paying for this repair dude.warranty doesn't cover a Fall out the pocket. Feel your pain though. A £480 phone youll be looking at a good 150-200 cost to repair her
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Ouch!, hope they don't charge a rediculous amount mate, I added T-Mobile insurance this morning as soon as mine arrived in fear of the same happening to me :S...
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Iv never had a screen breakage before and im usually really careful with my phones but I guess my luck has run out, I hope they fix it just way it was, luckily their is no dents or scratches so it should look like new when they fix the screen
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To be honest im gonna get it fixed I know its gonna cost alot but the phone is awsome so im not going to down grade back to my htc sensation lol ill just make sure to keep it in its case next time...no matter how much im tempted to take it out and rub the smooth case ha!
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if u tend to drop your phone alot, get an otterbox
ugly but definitely protects
According to TrollFixit the One is not reparable and so u will be a nice test
Lets us know you might end up with a new unit
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if u tend to drop your phone alot, get an otterbox
ugly but definitely protects
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First time iv ever dropped my phone lol but ill defo look into getting a better case
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According to TrollFixit the One is not reparable and so u will be a nice test
Lets us know you might end up with a new unit
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Well im sure as htc make the phone they should be able to fix it, but if not I doubt they would give me a new handset, its not covered by warranty as it was my fault, but heres hoping!
andy2012uk said:
First time iv ever dropped my phone lol but ill defo look into getting a better case
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devastating
its slippery as hell though, thats why im so glad i got my nillkin case - looks nice and has good grip.
you should consider!
Oh, that sucks
I'm lucky, I get phone insurance with my bank account. I rang them to switch it over as soon as I'd unboxed it as I knew if I left it alone this would happen!
Good luck getting it fixed!

Is it an upgrade

I ask this as a user of nexus 4 and would like to hear from ex n4 users who have bought the HTC one as it's a lot of money to fork out if it's like for like... of this is not a troll
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Never used a Nexus 4 so can't compare, I did however make the jump up from the HTC One X, a very powerful handset although highly underrated by the general public...
It was a good jump up, I am astounded constantly by my One, sometimes even just picking it up to hold it in my hands, not doing anything with it, just nice to hold it
The-Last-Hylian said:
Never used a Nexus 4 so can't compare, I did however make the jump up from the HTC One X, a very powerful handset although highly underrated by the general public...
It was a good jump up, I am astounded constantly by my One, sometimes even just picking it up to hold it in my hands, not doing anything with it, just nice to hold it
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I feel the same with my n4 mate that's why I need the info on the one
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Nobody else ?
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tonybhoy said:
Nobody else ?
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Buy it. If you don't like it bung it on the 'bay and profit.
compact_bijou said:
Buy it. If you don't like it bung it on the 'bay and profit.
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send me the money and i will otherwise its save or sell my n4 and n7,just wanted to know if its worth it
I think it's a worth while upgrade, I don't believe that you'd regret it.
It might be a good idea to wait for a little bit until the first batches are gone and you can get a 2nd batch handset.
I've got no issues really with mine, it's a decent handset and I love it harder than any phone I've ever owned.
I think the fact that you're asking this in the 'One' threads is a bit hit & miss as we're probably more biased towards getting one than not but then again we can give you an accurate idea of what the handset is like... swings & roundabouts.
tonybhoy said:
send me the money and i will otherwise its save or sell my n4 and n7,just wanted to know if its worth it
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Pikey is as pikey does. If you can't afford the ride you're a spectator
It's well worth an upgrade. It's a step change in design and functionality.
compact_bijou said:
Pikey is as pikey does. If you can't afford the ride you're a spectator
It's well worth an upgrade. It's a step change in design and functionality.
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If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
The-Last-Hylian said:
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
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If you can't read the forums, make up your own mind, you're not here to be convinced.
It's well worth an upgrade. It's a step change in design and functionality.
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If you can't read the forums, make up your own mind, you're not here to be convinced.
It's well worth an upgrade. It's a step change in design and functionality.
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Perhaps, but it's not an excuse to bash someone who's genuinely asking a question.
I just found your attitude to be reprehensible.
Man up
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Man up
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