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Ever since I got my 8.9 Galaxy tab I've noticed issues with the Google Play store. Things like the HBO Go app not being available for it, but if you were to go behind the Google Play and manual install the Kindle fire's version it would work beautifully. I've ran into other apps that are not available for me, but are for similar devices. Now I'm noticing google is offering magazines, but they are only for 7 & 10 inch devices. Which makes no sense to me since you can buy a whole range of monitors for your computer and that doesn't seem to affect what your doing on it.
I guess I'm used to a world where to run an app you only need to have the correct OS and hardware to run it.
Why does android applications seem more concerned with brand name of your device and the screen size?
magazines
Looks like just after my post they updated my Google Play to allow for the purchases of magazines. It still seems that there are issues with the Android Market when it comes to compatibility that don't truly reflect if your device is compatible or not.
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Looks like just after my post they updated my Google Play to allow for the purchases of magazines. It still seems that there are issues with the Android Market when it comes to compatibility that don't truly reflect if your device is compatible or not.
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Google Play has been like this for a long time. Developers may wish on allow their app on confirmed working devices and will place restrictions on who can download it. While this helps keep their ratings higher from incompatible users hating their app. It leaves less popular devices out in the cold regardless of compatibility issues. But its why we have apk files and friendly xda members to get them for us
Hbo go updated their app it works now
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My SGH-I957R is still running Android Market 1.0.28. I purchased it new in December and it is totally stock, shouldnt it have updated to Google Play?
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My SGH-I957R is still running Android Market 1.0.28. I purchased it new in December and it is totally stock, shouldnt it have updated to Google Play?
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Yea.
Clear the app cache or data
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My tab 8.9 does not want to load anything! I have tried clearing cache , clearing data, factory resets, still nothing!!!!
I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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If it's being blocked I might return my Nexus 7. It would suck that they would only let you buy apps from them.
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I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
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Not true it's working for me. Go to Amazon& request a new link to be sent to your email.
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Thats strange, i was able to do it on my N7. Maybe a reboot of some sort?
Works fine here. Go into Setting>Security and check Allow unknown sources. Go to Amazon web site and follow instructions to download and install. Did that to download an older version of a zombie killing game that works on N7.
Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
Try rebooting it then re-installing.
If you're installing it from a previous backup from another device, it most likely won't work (not assuming you are, but just in case...) Like the others said, go to Amazon and get it directly and you should have no problem.
What worked for me was clicking the link for tablets. It says something like "no email or phone number, click here" and that downloaded the APK directly into my system download folder. From there it installed just fine. I had to do this to get it on my Google TV also. It seems to bypass some sort of test since the Google TV isn't officially compatible with it.
I just worked with an Amazon tech, got it to install using by going to this like in the browser on the N7.
http://www.amazon.com/app-email
Works fine now.
Mine installed fine. I used the APK from my phone. Got a bunch of the nicer FAOTD apps working perfectly too.
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Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
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Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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Bugger the Apps they get games too. Of course only if you're from a certain country.
Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.
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Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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When it first came out, it was great. Now, the free app is usually a very crappy game. In the past, I got:
Fancy Widgets Pro, Weatherbug Elite, Thumb Keyboard, App 2 SD Pro, Moon Phase Pro, Quickoffice Pro, SoundHound Infinity, Shazam, SwiftKey 3, and several other good ones.
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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.
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1. I've never once gotten malware and I always sideload apps. I always leave that setting unticked as do most folks I'm sure.
2. having Amazon app store or any other app store doesn't change your default android Google play store.
You want malware, go download Blackmarket apps or pirate stuff, you'll get it then. I do suggest tho, that everyone should install a malware scanner. Avast, lookout, etc.
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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What? Side loading doesn't put you at any greater risk of malware. You always choose to install an app, whether you side loaded it or not.
Nothing wrong or risky with downloading the Amazon app store, being able to choose a different app store is one of the best things about android. CHOICE.
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Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Google doesn't care.. Remember when 4.1.1 broke a bunch of paid apps by sticking them in the asec folder which wasn't mounted at startup? So since it wasn't mounted Android never saw the apps during boot and paid keyboards and widgets disappeared after a reboot. MONTHS went by before it was addressed. Meanwhile developers of those paid apps had angry customers and money lost because of Google
This will be the same song and dance.. Google is getting very sloppy with development and communication with developers pre-release seems to not exist.
I love it.
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Lets keep personal opinions about users from different nations to yourself. This is a development forum, not a place to vent personal feelings. Now keep it on topic.
Stop stereotyping. People are always so quick to hate on Americans. Yes there are bad Americans...but every country has them. Even your country. But I'm not going to go there since I happen to like most people from the UK that I've encountered...it would be unfair to label your entire nation as arrogant, ungrateful, and judgmental because of your behavior.
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I love it.
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Seriously how is the "I love it" on topic or not a personal feeling?
Anyway thanks for the clean up
But still I agree with the OP. Google is becoming arrogant, sloppy and in its quest to be more user friendly making fiends of the ppl that were with them from version 1.
So what is the problem? I am only one person using my nexus and I haven't run into any issues.
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4.2 works fine for me. A few bugs here and there but you can't expect everything to be perfect. Google getting arrogant? Please. Sloppy? I'd say they are spread a bit thin with all the projects they have going on.
Google is run by humans. Android developers are humans. Humans make errors. Not too complicated.
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well its not about the bugs, bugs can be forgiven.
System works fine...
Its about their behavior
For me personally that I can't mount my USB stick, or lost tablet mode means that I downgraded to 4.1.2 back.
Today is Thursday. The sun will still shine Friday
Humm ..
Its called growing pains. Sometimes you have to take a STEP Back to move two bigger steps foreword. I see so much talk about this is not there that is buggy. Yes we get it.. But what i am seeing mostly is app compatibility Being Broke.. This is something that will be fixed Quickly by most Developers.
Android is and always will be "A WORK IN PROGRESS". My opinion only but if you want bland and safe sell your nexus 7 to me for .50 cents and get a ipad mini.
People who are having issues Please go to the developers web site and let them know your app is not working properly .Give them exact details. You can do the same to google at groups.google.com. Just be Patient
Now my GRIPE The multi user cluster (word here im not typing) as others said was not well though through by google. My guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
Take a deep breath relax and say to yourself.. Its only a tablet its only a tablet its only a toy tablet... ..
Thanks for Reading... :fingers-crossed:
I suppose YMMV, but I love 4.2. Smoother than 4.1, and nice features. The only thing that really seems half-assed is the multiuser support.
What is your problem with multi-user? For me and my daughter it is working great - could not be better.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
Performance is good - all our preferences and accounts are separated - and I really can't think of any other features I would want.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
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I haven't played with multi-user yet, can you add the account just for the play store and not have someone access the gmail account associated with it?
That's my gripe, I want to be able to for ex, have my nephew play with my tablet and all the games etc, but don't want him to access to my gmail etc. I thought this was perfect for that but then read about the app issue. Also, I assume there is no type of limited user, in that a secondary account can still uninstall apps, but at least they can't delete files from the other users home dir.
Yes - my account is just added to my daughter's play store. Open play store and look at add account option.
Works perfectly to give her access to the apps we share.
NO shared Gmail.
Forgot something important:
When you add a second account to play store, you are given a bunch of items you can synch, like contacts.
Uncheck them all!
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i had a valid post in this thread, it seems to have been removed ........yet you left the dude saying "love it".
cheers for that :confused
and im sorry but why has this guy just been thanked by 10 people? the post has nothing to do with anything...... shenanigans shenanigans i tells ya!!:silly:
Stick mount wasn't a feature of 4.1. It was hacked in which is why you had to be rooted and use an app. You'll get USB support again. Multiuser support screwed with the storage. That's all.
New tweaks are a little rough around the edges but will be smoothed out soon enough. Give it time, damn guys. I personally think its no better or worse then 4.1.2. We just have a few new toys now.
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4.2 = 1st time I've truly experienced "butter"...
Sure, I kinda miss the bells & whistles I had on Codename Android, and I'll definitely check out any forthcoming 4.2 updates, but scrosler's stock, rooted, deodexed ROM is far & away the smoothest, quickest ROM I've used on any Android device. Stock kernel, no tweaks, plain vanilla is for me for now. Way better Google experience. OK, I sideloaded the AOSP browser for Flash, but that's it. Chrome is much more responsive on 4.2 than 4.1.2 - Everything is noticeably quicker - I even detect better wireless response. Your results may vary, but I'm not going back!
[/COLOR]If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Am I the only one that has multiple apps that crash and all kinds of problems? Hell even the Youtube app crashes, i am so pissed i want a refund on this tablet they ruined or i want 4.1.2 back grrrrrrrrrr
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If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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HMy guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
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Well, I do belive that you are right. I also feared (and expected, to tell the truth) that something EXACTLY like this would happen. I tried NOT to update the system, but why the hell did they keep forcing it when we obvoiusly do not want it? And probably, they must have known that it will broke a lot of things...
Just to explain: for me, there was a message with three buttons: upgrade, more info (which leads to seme text and bigger "upgrade" button and "later", but that "later" means only "ask at next screen unlock" which made the tablet realy hard to use. So, what choice have I had?
Hey there, my more experienced friends. I have been lurking for a while now, and am preeeeetty sure this question or some variation hasn't been asked yet. We'll see.
I am an American living in China and bought the Chinese unlocked dual SIM/SD card HTC One. Though I think it's a great phone, some aspects REALLY bother me.
#1 - It has this ****ty HTC Marketplace rather than the Google Play Store
#2 - I can't get the Blinkfeed to display anything but Chinese jibrish
After a few weeks of finding NO apps that I want, I took my phone to a large electronics market in Shanghai and had my phone rooted. Some things became better, some worse.
1) I asked the guy to get me the Play Store and he did...but not everything is available on it. I'm unsure why this is.
2) It's obvious that the Beats sound is no more.
3) I still can't get Blinkfeed to change whatsoever.
4) I can find more apps than before with both the Play Store and HTC Marketplace, but something is missing. I don't really know what it is.
5) The camera seems to be much less clear than it was before.
I guess my question is, since it's unlocked is there something I can do to wipe the Chinese stuff off of it and install all American software? Did the guy get me a less than optimal root? What am I doing wrong? What's the easiest solution?
All I want is for my phone to function like an unlocked US or International version. Thanks in advance for your help!
I suspect at least part of the problem is the government firewall blocking things.
You might start by installing Xposed framework and the Modaco toolkit module for it. Modaco has a setting that blocks the Play Store from checking your location.
But the best solution is probably flashing one of the custom roms with a non-carrier-specific setting. Not sure what that would do for you, but it should help.
I can confirm that the Government is blocking some of the apps. Both my phone have the play store but on is still on v3 and the other on v4. I couldn't find an airport security game and all the featured apps and top are also china-fied.
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This is why VPN exists.
squabbi said:
I can confirm that the Government is blocking some of the apps. Both my phone have the play store but on is still on v3 and the other on v4. I couldn't find an airport security game and all the featured apps and top are also china-fied.
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I suggest that you have a detailed read through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273570
It will tell you everything that is currently known about modifying these devices, including how to install patches for blinkfeed that will allow you to read foreign news, and facebook etc..if the firewall lets it in to china
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VPN won't work.
You could have one of two issues.
If you just can't view certain apps, do a search in a browser and open the link to the play store. If certain apps can't be installed, then you need to fix it another way.
If you have a foreign SIM card, put it in the phone, empty the play store cache, restart phone. Once you restart, you will be able to view/install the apps available in the country that SIM is from.
Maybe there is a rooted method that works now, but last I checked there wasn't a reliable working alternative. I used this with my One X I bought/used in China.
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I suggest that you have a detailed read through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273570
It will tell you everything that is currently known about modifying these devices, including how to install patches for blinkfeed that will allow you to read foreign news, and facebook etc..if the firewall lets it in to china
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Don't worry. I live in Australia I was only visiting relatives in China. Thanks anyways.
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I keep seeing system apps being updated via the play store. So Motorola can update all apps without a system update?
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I keep seeing system apps being updated via the play store. So Motorola can update all apps without a system update?
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It would be more accurate to say that Google can, but yes this is the way they've been gradually moving to. Now instead of having to wait for a new version of the OS (and the eternity it takes carriers and manufacturers to distribute it), Google just pushes core app updates through the play store.
As someone who just made the mistake of signing up with Verizon I am VERY happy about this.
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It's more complicated than that, fellas. Allow me:
If you see a Google App on the market, that means it's no longer open source. So others can't use it unless they agree to Google's terms and have a Google qualified device. So basically, amazon and the likes that build from android's open source can't use them. So anything in the market can't be used like the open-source base code.
Long story short: if it's in the market, it's closed-sourced. Make sense?
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It's more complicated than that, fellas. Allow me:
If you see a Google App on the market, that means it's no longer open source. So others can't use it unless they agree to Google's terms and have a Google qualified device. So basically, amazon and the likes that build from android's open source can't use them. So anything in the market can't be used like the open-source base code.
Long story short: if it's in the market, it's closed-sourced. Make sense?
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If they can receive updates from the play store it means they were signed by Google when they were added to the system partition which means they were already closed source when they were packaged with the stock ROM, your answer doesn't make any sense.
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Want to link an article for you, sport?
Here you go. Long read: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ntrolling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
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Google apps have always been updated via the Play Store, so I'm not really sure what talk of the Google apps has to do with this thread. I assumed the OP was talking about the Motorola system apps, a lot of which have been put on the Play Store recently. Those were always closed-source anyway.
OP, yeah, it's so Motorola can update the apps without having to send out a system update. Google started putting more and more of the core Android apps (with some Googley modifications) on the Play Store over the past year or so to accomplish this, and now Motorola is following suit. They know the carriers really slow down system updates, so the more they can circumvent the carriers, the more updated they can keep their phones.
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Google apps have always been updated via the Play Store, so I'm not really sure what talk of the Google apps has to do with this thread. I assumed the OP was talking about the Motorola system apps, a lot of which have been put on the Play Store recently. Those were always closed-source anyway.
OP, yeah, it's so Motorola can update the apps without having to send out a system update. Google started putting more and more of the core Android apps (with some Googley modifications) on the Play Store over the past year or so to accomplish this, and now Motorola is following suit. They know the carriers really slow down system updates, so the more they can circumvent the carriers, the more updated they can keep their phones.
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Read the link I put right above you. It's deeper than that...
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Want to link an article for you, sport?
Here you go. Long read: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ntrolling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
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Google doesn't need to Market-link their apps to remove them from non-conforming vendors devices. As all Google apps are the property of Google, and always have been, Google can simply send you a C&D letter. Ask Cyanogen about that!
True, but they don't update the AOSP anymore. You're left with that "old" code. Only propitiatory apps get the new features and updates.
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It ultimately puts Google firmly in control. Right where they need/want to be.
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Read the link I put right above you. It's deeper than that...
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I read that article back when it came out. A lot of the points are true, but it still has nothing to do with this thread. Motorola is already in control of their phones (minus the part where the carriers delay the updates). This allows them to circumvent the carriers for minor updates.
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I read that article back when it came out. A lot of the points are true, but it still has nothing to do with this thread. Motorola is already in control of their phones (minus the part where the carriers delay the updates). This allows them to circumvent the carriers for minor updates.
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I was talking about Google in particular, not just Motorola. And it does have a lot to do with this thread.
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I was talking about Google in particular, not just Motorola. And it does have a lot to do with this thread.
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Don't see how, but whatever. I'm done here.
While they are all proprietary and all, the end reason is so that the apps and new features can be put on all devices (given they meet specs and all) and they can use/take advantage of all the new features of said apps w/out having to update the actual OS to the newest version of android. It's some what of an end run around the carriers/manufactures to get the updates to the people sooner rather then waiting for them to put out an update to the devices. That's pretty much the main reason for putting them on the market and updating them that way. If they didn't want to do the end run around carriers to get the updates to the phone then they wouldn't have put them on the market like that. The apps (like moto's camera and touchless controls and googles calendar & play apps) are already closed source/proprietary so the logic of putting them on the market automatically makes them closed source doesn't make sense as there are a lot of apps that are on the market that are open source.
Did you even read the link? I won't answer anyone until they read it.
And I'm done too. Bored.
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Here's another thread with some talking points to read through, as I'm stubborn.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512206
I answered the question poised in the title. I am surprised that some of you don't understand the philosophy behind Google/android as of late. They're taking control back.
It's a whole helluva lot deeper than "bypassing carrier slowness to push updates".
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Here's another thread with some talking points to read through, as I'm stubborn.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512206
I answered the question poised in the title. I am surprised that some of you don't understand the philosophy behind Google/android as of late. They're taking control back.
It's a whole helluva lot deeper than "bypassing carrier slowness to push updates".
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I think we can all agree that it probably has to do with both.
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Here's another thread with some talking points to read through, as I'm stubborn.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512206
I answered the question poised in the title. I am surprised that some of you don't understand the philosophy behind Google/android as of late. They're taking control back.
It's a whole helluva lot deeper than "bypassing carrier slowness to push updates".
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i think where all of this differing of opinions is coming in is what is actually being talked about. your post have to do with the prior open source of googles apps that are now closed source. But the other folks are saying that they could have made those apps closed source and pushed them through updates via FW rather through the play store. The reason they push them through the play store isn't so that they can now be closed source, as they could do that by pushing them through FW updates. So while google is trying to take control (which imo rightfully so on their part, i don't like it but they did free work for a long time to get to the market share they are at so its inevitable that they are trying to cash in on their work now, given plenty of other devs helped as well not working for google), their reason for updating system.aks through the play store is not so they can keep it closed source, because they can do that in other ways as well.
They could also be putting aosp apps in the system/app and update them through he play store if they wanted to. I don't see how them being closed source and making the, get updated through the play store instead of through FW udpates has any bearing on the closed source taking control back aspect.
I'm not even arguing here, im just trying to figure out why you think or "know" that to be the case.
Did you read both links in their entirety?
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1ManWolfePack said:
Did you read both links in their entirety?
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scanned the second one. read the first. All they said was when they move it to the play store that is the same as making it closed source. Which is true. But that doesn't mean they couldn't have not allowed them to udpate through the play store and just had them update when they released new OS/FW for the phone. They could have still made those closed source in doing so. Just because they chose to make them close sourced and moved to the play store doesn't mean that they couldn't have made them closed sourced and had them update through new android updates or FWs right?
I don't see why because they chose to put them in the play store, it was to take over is what Im getting at. If they chose not to put them in the play store and update them with new android updates, they still could have made them closed source so "take over" or whatever. Since they could make them closed source either way, doesn't that mean they chose to put them in the play store for other reasons?