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[TOOL] AT&T VS. Pre-Paid Calculator

This tool is for those of us that are currently under an AT&T contract and thinking of purchasing the Nexus 4. Since this phone comes shipped unlocked and without a contract, we might as well consider switching carriers to maximize our savings. I put together this Excel spreadsheet to do the math automatically and figured I would share:
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In my case I would break even in about 6 months after paying the ETF and then save around $70 / month. My savings per year is equal to about the cost of 3 nexus 4's..

t0mmy said:
This tool is for those of us that are currently under an AT&T contract and thinking of purchasing the Nexus 4. Since this phone comes shipped unlocked and without a contract, we might as well consider switching carriers to maximize our savings. I put together this Excel spreadsheet to do the math automatically and figured I would share:
In my case I would break even in about 6 months after paying the ETF and then save around $70 / month. My savings per year is equal to about the cost of 3 nexus 4's..
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I did this the day the Nexus 4 was announced. Since I have almost exactly a year left, I'll break even in 6-12 months, depending which prepaid plan I choose :victory:

t0mmy said:
This tool is for those of us that are currently under an AT&T contract and thinking of purchasing the Nexus 4. Since this phone comes shipped unlocked and without a contract, we might as well consider switching carriers to maximize our savings. I put together this Excel spreadsheet to do the math automatically and figured I would share:
In my case I would break even in about 6 months after paying the ETF and then save around $70 / month. My savings per year is equal to about the cost of 3 nexus 4's..
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Great work. You should put a subjective $ amount for the convenience of using an awesome phone somewhere in there

why not just put your at&t sim card inside the Nexus4, and that be the end of it.

slickromeo said:
why not just put your at&t sim card inside the Nexus4, and that be the end of it.
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Because he can save money in the long run by switching. If you're asking, "Why not put the ATT SIM in until the contract runs out," that's a good question.

I pay around 90 bucks a month for my GNEX with VZW....and looks like AT&T costs about 90 bucks a month as well....on a two year contract. Can we buy this phone out right from Google Play and put it on a contract with AT&T....or do we need to do the prepay plans? I'm not a fan of prepay....where I am in FLA....signal is almost NIL with Sprint....even crappier with prepaid plans. So I have VZW which has decent signal, never had AT&T but I'm quite sure they are big enough in the game to have good signal here in Central Florida.
Thing is... I don't want a prepaid plan. I want the two year contract, it not a burdon to me. I just am not sure how to do it by purchasing it through Google Play and then secondly signing up for AT&T (TMO is not an option either....crazy poor signal)

K Rich said:
I did this the day the Nexus 4 was announced. Since I have almost exactly a year left, I'll break even in 6-12 months, depending which prepaid plan I choose :victory:
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who did you end up going with? I am with tmobile and really like them. I know i could probably get by cheaper but this is my first carrier that has sim card so i am enjoying the benefits lol

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I pay around 90 bucks a month for my GNEX with VZW....and looks like AT&T costs about 90 bucks a month as well....on a two year contract. Can we buy this phone out right from Google Play and put it on a contract with AT&T....or do we need to do the prepay plans? I'm not a fan of prepay....where I am in FLA....signal is almost NIL with Sprint....even crappier with prepaid plans. So I have VZW which has decent signal, never had AT&T but I'm quite sure they are big enough in the game to have good signal here in Central Florida.
Thing is... I don't want a prepaid plan. I want the two year contract, it not a burdon to me. I just am not sure how to do it by purchasing it through Google Play and then secondly signing up for AT&T (TMO is not an option either....crazy poor signal)
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Prepaid plans for the major networks use the same cell towers and infrastructure as contract plans do. There's no signal/service difference.
You CAN buy the N4 and bring it to AT&T or T-Mobile and get a contract plan, but then you'll be paying far more than what you need. Contract pricing factors in the fact that you got a heavily subsidized handset when you sign up (kind of like slowly paying back the carrier for the share that they paid for it). Since you're bringing your own, they never spent a dime to subsidize your phone, and thus you'd be paying for something you didn't get.

NexusNero said:
I pay around 90 bucks a month for my GNEX with VZW....and looks like AT&T costs about 90 bucks a month as well....on a two year contract. Can we buy this phone out right from Google Play and put it on a contract with AT&T....or do we need to do the prepay plans? I'm not a fan of prepay....where I am in FLA....signal is almost NIL with Sprint....even crappier with prepaid plans. So I have VZW which has decent signal, never had AT&T but I'm quite sure they are big enough in the game to have good signal here in Central Florida.
Thing is... I don't want a prepaid plan. I want the two year contract, it not a burdon to me. I just am not sure how to do it by purchasing it through Google Play and then secondly signing up for AT&T (TMO is not an option either....crazy poor signal)
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If you already have a cell phone with ATT. Just remove the sim card from the phone and then place it in your new phone.
-Done. Just keep paying your bill. ATT, much like Honey badger. Don't care. I currently have 5 devices I switch the sim around them depending on the color of my shirt for the day.

branzno said:
who did you end up going with? I am with tmobile and really like them. I know i could probably get by cheaper but this is my first carrier that has sim card so i am enjoying the benefits lol
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I've got a T-Mobile sim in the mail right now. I think I'm going to stick it in my GS3 (even though I'll only get 2g) and try out the signal for the time being before my N4 gets here.

Sprint new plans

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Leak...e-unlimited-plans-to-take-on-T-Mobile_id45145
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Thoughts? Family plans on this are much more expensive. If these plans take over the current selection, we're looking at a 20-40% price hike for plans of 4-5 lines.

I am not seeing a deal here looks like they are starting to get into Verizon prices without the coverage and quality
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What does it means by this: "Other plans may receive prioritized bandwidth availability. Streaming video speeds may be limited to 1 Mbps"
Is that referring to existing Everything plans that soon will be throttled and not be truly Unlimited? I hope not.

rockypr70 said:
What does it means by this: "Other plans may receive prioritized bandwidth availability. Streaming video speeds may be limited to 1 Mbps"
Is that referring to existing Everything plans that soon will be throttled and not be truly Unlimited? I hope not.
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It looks like the future will include Unlimited Data, but to prevent abusers, Sprint will throttle Data Streaming to 1mbps (which is still fast enough for 720p streaming), and it will be expensive. Softbank appears to charge A LOT more for unlimited data as opposed to removing it completely.

This will push me over the edge to T-Mobile for sure. They already have LTE here. Well everyone but Sprint has LTE here. Although the Network Vision is currently being deployed here and should be up in a month or two. Its funny how much I have payed Sprint for their garbage network over the years and now we will finally have LTE here and they release these plans. Yep I think this is the final straw my contract is up in October and I can leave now for $50. Actually with the new terms of service as of July 1st I can get out without paying anything.
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GiantJay said:
This will push me over the edge to T-Mobile for sure. They already have LTE here. Well everyone but Sprint has LTE here. Although the Network Vision is currently being deployed here and should be up in a month or two. Its funny how much I have payed Sprint for their garbage network over the years and now we will finally have LTE here and they release these plans. Yep I think this is the final straw my contract is up in October and I can leave now for $50. Actually with the new terms of service as of July 1st I can get out without paying anything.
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These are just newer plans. The older plans are still in effect. I think Sprint in the long term will be much better than T-Mobile because Sprint will have the 800mhz spectrum to cover indoors. T-Mobile has nothing below the 1Ghz spectrum and their indoor coverage is pretty bad.

Ascertion said:
These are just newer plans. The older plans are still in effect. I think Sprint in the long term will be much better than T-Mobile because Sprint will have the 800mhz spectrum to cover indoors. T-Mobile has nothing below the 1Ghz spectrum and their indoor coverage is pretty bad.
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Key word long term. Been with Sprint for 14 years but really thinking about trying T-Mobile as well.
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Ascertion said:
These are just newer plans. The older plans are still in effect. I think Sprint in the long term will be much better than T-Mobile because Sprint will have the 800mhz spectrum to cover indoors. T-Mobile has nothing below the 1Ghz spectrum and their indoor coverage is pretty bad.
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Maybe I will get both for a while and see what I like. One thing I like about T-Mobile is the phone options and unlocked GSM variants. Idk.
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I'll stay grandfathered in to my current family plan. If that happens to change for any reason, I would most likely go to t-mobile as well. But I don't see that happening soon.

I have 5 lines with Sprint and use all the upgrades so having the latest and greatest is cheap. T-Mobile Jump program is kind of nice too.
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You will be able to keep your current plan as ling as you like you dont have to go to the new planes if you dont want plus they are bettet because you gey 5 gigs if hotspot to tether for the same price as the 110 individual plan so that's more for your money
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Hey folks.. I made a comment on this in another post of mine. As a Sprint employee, allow me to clear things up for people:
If you have a SINGLE line with Sprint then you're more than likely on the 'Everything Data 450' plan, which costs $79.99 a month before tax. To stay at the same monthly price you should just switch to the 'Unlimited, My Way' plan which costs you $50 for unlimited talk and text, and $30 for the unlimited data. $50 + $30 = $80.. which is what the Everything Data 450 plan costs right now.
It's actually a BETTER option, because now you get unlimited calling. With the Everything Data 450 plan, you only get 450 anytime minutes. With the new plan at the SAME price you get unlimited EVERYTHING. Or, you can choose the 'My All-in' plan for $110 month and get unlimited data, text, and calling PLUS a 5GB hotspot add-on for your phone.
The price scheme is the same for 2 phones as well. The only people who are gonna end up paying MORE are the ones who have 3 or more lines on their accounts. But remember, not ALL phones will require unlimited data, and some phone may be basic phones. So the plan will be cheaper.
If you have multiple SMARTphones with Sprint and want unlimited data, here is a breakdown of what you'll be paying with the new plans:
2 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $149.99
2 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $150 per month but now you get unlimited calling
3 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $179.98
3 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $210 per month but now you get unlimited calling
4 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $209.97
4 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $260 per month but now you get unlimited calling
But like I said, everyone with only 1 or 2 lines of service will NOT notice price differences unless they switch to the "My All-in" plan, but that's totally up to them.
Hope this helps.
P.S. We have NOT received official word as to whether or not existing family plans will be grandfathered in. With that said, there is a possibility you'll be forced to switch. The only reason why I personally believe you'll be grandfathered in, is because Sprint would lose THOUSANDS of customers if they forced existing customers to switch and ultimately pay more. I believe these new plans will only apply to NEW Sprint customers.

Just wondering how the employer discount would work. Right now with Everything Data 1500 they take the % off from $110. With this new plan(s) would it be off the entire bill or off the cost of the line ($40 1, each or combined) or the data plan ($30 1, each or combined). People might still notice their plan go up slightly.
Correct me if I'm wrong pls. for the past 4 years I've been on employee plans so don't really ever see normal phone bills.
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For my family plan it would be about $10-15 dollars cheaper since two lines (my parents) pay for data when they don't need it at all.
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daniel4653 said:
For my family plan it would be about $10-15 dollars cheaper since two lines (my parents) pay for data when they don't need it at all.
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Only problem with that is that if they have a smart phone, data is required. $20 for 1 gb or $30 for unlimited

troyboytn said:
Only problem with that is that if they have a smart phone, data is required. $20 for 1 gb or $30 for unlimited
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They don't. They have flip phone.
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HeyItsRyan said:
Hey folks.. I made a comment on this in another post of mine. As a Sprint employee, allow me to clear things up for people:
If you have a SINGLE line with Sprint then you're more than likely on the 'Everything Data 450' plan, which costs $79.99 a month before tax. To stay at the same monthly price you should just switch to the 'Unlimited, My Way' plan which costs you $50 for unlimited talk and text, and $30 for the unlimited data. $50 + $30 = $80.. which is what the Everything Data 450 plan costs right now.
It's actually a BETTER option, because now you get unlimited calling. With the Everything Data 450 plan, you only get 450 anytime minutes. With the new plan at the SAME price you get unlimited EVERYTHING. Or, you can choose the 'My All-in' plan for $110 month and get unlimited data, text, and calling PLUS a 5GB hotspot add-on for your phone.
The price scheme is the same for 2 phones as well. The only people who are gonna end up paying MORE are the ones who have 3 or more lines on their accounts. But remember, not ALL phones will require unlimited data, and some phone may be basic phones. So the plan will be cheaper.
If you have multiple SMARTphones with Sprint and want unlimited data, here is a breakdown of what you'll be paying with the new plans:
2 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $149.99
2 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $150 per month but now you get unlimited calling
3 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $179.98
3 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $210 per month but now you get unlimited calling
4 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $209.97
4 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $260 per month but now you get unlimited calling
But like I said, everyone with only 1 or 2 lines of service will NOT notice price differences unless they switch to the "My All-in" plan, but that's totally up to them.
Hope this helps.
P.S. We have NOT received official word as to whether or not existing family plans will be grandfathered in. With that said, there is a possibility you'll be forced to switch. The only reason why I personally believe you'll be grandfathered in, is because Sprint would lose THOUSANDS of customers if they forced existing customers to switch and ultimately pay more. I believe these new plans will only apply to NEW Sprint customers.
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What about when it's time to upgrade. Will we be forced to change plans if/when we upgrade?

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Ummmm I can check that, but as a Sprint employee I don't think it is. Our planogram changes go into effect on 7/19. We wouldn't roll out new rate plans until we got the new brochures for the customers, which we won't get until next Thursday.
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HeyItsRyan said:
Ummmm I can check that, but as a Sprint employee I don't think it is. Our planogram changes go into effect on 7/19. We wouldn't roll out new rate plans until we got the new brochures for the customers, which we won't get until next Thursday.
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So if it does change will we be made aware? I currently have five lines. I already pay $306 a month.
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Net10 $75 Unlimited 5GB Plan, anyone?

Loving my Nexus 5, it was so great to get to leave Verizon for a better phone, and a better price.
I've been on Straight Talk for the past month, and my time is almost up, 2.5gb is close, but I need a bit more. I want to get the new Net10 $75 plan, and evidently need a new AT&T sim card for their network.
Can I just buy the SIM I need and then select that plan when activating? Or do I HAVE to buy this $50 activation kit and then upgrade to the $75 after a month?
Been getting the run around on socials and help chat.
http://www.net10wireless.com/#/plans
UNLIMITED*
TALK, TEXT, DATA
$75 30 Days
No International Calls
Auto-Refill
Unlimited* Talk / Text
Picture Messaging
Web / Email and call 411
*Up to 5.0GB
Thanks ahead of time.

I thought ST was unlimited data?
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chipstien said:
I thought ST was unlimited data?
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They used to be, now they offer $45/month for unlimited talk, text & 2.5GB of data.. After the 2.5, I believe they throttle.
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Yup. I'm using between 2.75 and 4.5 data a month. I don't want the throttling.
Was looking at AIO, but it is throttled all the time, and who knows what will happen now that AT&T is buying Cricket (word is AIO is being shut down).
Anyways, Anyone have some helpful info?

It's 2.5gb of high speed speed data, then the slow you down to 2g.
My understanding is that you can just buy 0.99c sim off eBay and then activate it on any plan they have. It's a dollar risk, I'd try it before paying for an activation kit.. The apn settings are posted all over.
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coorsleftfield said:
It's 2.5gb of high speed speed data, then the slow you down to 2g.
My understanding is that you can just buy 0.99c sim off eBay and then activate it on any plan they have. It's a dollar risk, I'd try it before paying for an activation kit.. The apn settings are posted all over.
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That's what I was hoping. The guy I talked to on the phone support was nice, but I could barely hear him (landline), and that sounds like maybe what he was saying.
Net10 has free overnight shipping on their $6.99 sim cards, or you can get them on Amazon too for .99 as a Prime AddOn.

Make sure you get one already cut for micro size.
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coorsleftfield said:
Make sure you get one already cut for micro size.
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Check.
Was going to get this one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0081FRQQW/
Picking up Need for Speed Rivals for Xbox One anyways. LOL

Okay @coorsleftfield , just ordered the one I linked. I'm assuming when it gets in I activate the sim and then select a plan on the site? It was a month ago for Straight Talk but I believe they had a similar setup (drank a lot since then).

tmobile is $70 for unlimited calls, unlimited texts, and completely unlimited high speed data(no throttling, an unlimited means 9999gb+).

simms22 said:
tmobile is $70 for unlimited calls, unlimited texts, and completely unlimited high speed data(no throttling, an unlimited means 9999gb+).
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Plus free text and 2G data internationally.

STi_Fanatic said:
Plus free text and 2G data internationally.
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right

simms22 said:
tmobile is $70 for unlimited calls, unlimited texts, and completely unlimited high speed data(no throttling, an unlimited means 9999gb+).
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To bad they suck in so many places which is probably why they are still so cheap.

[email protected] said:
To bad they suck in so many places which is probably why they are still so cheap.
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not here in nyc, they are the best. i average 30-40mbps download and 15-25mbps upload. great lte coverage here, no dropped calls. and they are cheap not because of bad service, but because they are the 4th largest provider in the us, and are trying to take away the customers from the 3 largest providers. att is terrible in nyc(but improving), so is sprint.

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tmobile is $70 for unlimited calls, unlimited texts, and completely unlimited high speed data(no throttling, an unlimited means 9999gb+).
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Yeah, that's not what I asked about though, thanks.
My wife WORKS for T-Mobile, there's a reason I'm on AT&T now and she's giving up her Employee Plan for the same. Unlimited X No Signal = Unlimited Nothing. LOL In her call center they are lucky if they can get edge 95% of the time. In a large metro area too. In the two counties I work in, Socorro and Catron Counties, there is no T-Mobile service at all unless you stay within a few miles of the freeway (I-25), and that is spotty too. I can't be out of service for a 6 hour round trip drive to some of the lands we are responsible for near Arizona.
Hell, we live less than 200 feet from I-25, and she gets 1 to 2 bars in the house, and can't make a call unless she switches to WiFi.
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Plus free text and 2G data internationally.
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I have no need for this, hence why I started the thread about this specific plan with Net10.
I've seen the other threads with what's available and what folks think about them.

Sorry, that sounded rude, I just re read it. I apologize for that, wasn't my objective.
I was with T-Mobile for years under my wife's plan, I wish them nothing but luck and love how they are changing the industry, but until their network expands and gets reliable, I can't us them here in New Mexico.

RED ZMAN said:
Yeah, that's not what I asked about though, thanks.
My wife WORKS for T-Mobile, there's a reason I'm on AT&T now and she's giving up her Employee Plan for the same. Unlimited X No Signal = Unlimited Nothing. LOL In her call center they are lucky if they can get edge 95% of the time. In a large metro area too. In the two counties I work in, Socorro and Catron Counties, there is no T-Mobile service at all unless you stay within a few miles of the freeway (I-25), and that is spotty too. I can't be out of service for a 6 hour round trip drive to some of the lands we are responsible for near Arizona.
Hell, we live less than 200 feet from I-25, and she gets 1 to 2 bars in the house, and can't make a call unless she switches to WiFi.
I have no need for this, hence why I started the thread about this specific plan with Net10.
I've seen the other threads with what's available and what folks think about them.
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lol, i just checked out the part of new mexico that youre in, now it makes sense. i wouldnt consider anywhere near there a large population center where you work, probably not where you live either. yea, tmobile doesnt have good coverage out there, near the middle of no where.. my bad. but near actual large population areas, tmobile is starting to earn its name

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Is tethering extra?

Go with h20 wireless, they have a $60 plan unlimited 4g no caps.
Its a new plan they just got.

TiltedAz said:
Is tethering extra?
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tethering is included in all the plans, its unlimited tethering on all the plans except its limited to 2.5gb on the completely unlimited high speed data plan($70 all inclusive). but even then, another 2gb tethering can be bought as well.
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My Tethering and Wi-Fi hotspot simply works? Details inside

hmm strange my wifi tether works see below:
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followed directions and connected to my desktop
speed test equates to 2.75 MB/s
I am located in Washington DC. The plan i use is:
Mobile Share Value Plan 2GB $40.00
Mobile Share Value Smartphone 4G LTE w/ VVM $40.00
Discount for Mobile Share Value Savings−$15.00
International Roaming - Expanded $0.00
Total Monthly Plan Charges $65.00
Just myself on the plan, i used to pay almost $90 for the old 3GB, 450 min talk, unlimited text, plan from long ago but i was just looking around and found this new plan (new to me at least) which suits me well. I don't know why i got the -$15 discount but it brings it down to $65, and i got the S5 monthly phone payment plan for $25/month. essentially paying the same i've always been with AT&T.
i am not sure if this new plan i am using allows wifi tethering but it works for me. I have disabled every AT&T service/app from my phone as well. Just sharing my experience.
Can anyone else confirm that it's most likely that Mobile Share Value Plans allow tethering/wi-fi hotspot from the S5?

If you get the family plan tethering is free
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Might want to cross your. Mac address out just to be safe.
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Might want to cross your. Mac address out just to be safe.
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lol, I was like , he blocked out the pc name , and left mac and ip .:silly:

Sharing is caring!!
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Might want to cross your. Mac address out just to be safe.
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thanks, not sure about stuff like that. taken out

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thanks, not sure about stuff like that. taken out
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Is there a tethering option or app that works on the S5 without the provision enabled (I have an old grandfathered data plan)?

Any Mobile Share plan of any size allows for WiFi hotspot with no additional charge.
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blocked out the pc name , and left mac and ip.lolz

All current mobile share plans include hotspot at no additional charge. However that is a useless thing since LTE would. Eat up the limited data very quickly.

radfordra said:
All current mobile share plans include hotspot at no additional charge. However that is a useless thing since LTE would. Eat up the limited data very quickly.
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Not sure how you figure tethering is useless, I it for emergency connections to work when im on the road and it doesn't eat up that much data unless you start downloading or streaming music/videos etc.
and P.S. NOT all mobile share plans include tethering, I currently have the Family share plan (Which does include tethering) I also have a second plan which is a 10gb shared plan and it does NOT include tethering

chillsen said:
Just myself on the plan, i used to pay almost $90 for the old 3GB, 450 min talk, unlimited text, plan from long ago but i was just looking around and found this new plan (new to me at least) which suits me well. I don't know why i got the -$15 discount but it brings it down to $65, and i got the S5 monthly phone payment plan for $25/month. essentially paying the same i've always been with AT&T.
Can anyone else confirm that it's most likely that Mobile Share Value Plans allow tethering/wi-fi hotspot from the S5?
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Chillsen, the reason you get the $15 discount is because you haven't gotten a new phone since February. If you get a new 2yr contract you'll lose that $15 discount, or you can do next with a phone installment & keep the discount.
cstayton said:
and P.S. NOT all mobile share plans include tethering, I currently have the Family share plan (Which does include tethering) I also have a second plan which is a 10gb shared plan and it does NOT include tethering
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And the mobile share value plans all include tethering. If you share data, it includes tethering, with any of the plan tiers. The older nation/familytalk plans don't include it unless your individual data feature is the $50 5GB one. You could theatrically be on some grandfathered feature/plan that's different, but it would have to be from 6+ years ago before I started working for at&t.

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Chillsen, the reason you get the $15 discount is because you haven't gotten a new phone since February. If you get a new 2yr contract you'll lose that $15 discount, or you can do next with a phone installment & keep the discount.
And the mobile share value plans all include tethering. If you share data, it includes tethering, with any of the plan tiers. The older nation/familytalk plans don't include it unless your individual data feature is the $50 5GB one. You could theatrically be on some grandfathered feature/plan that's different, but it would have to be from 6+ years ago before I started working for at&t.
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actually the other plan that i have (currently has 3 devices on it) is the initial unlimited data package probably from around the 6 to 7 yr ago mark and even though it is unlimited it does not include tethering and i can't change it do to an employer subsidy if i change it i loose it (or so i was told)
I also have a friend who has a tiered data plan from AT&T which is not the family shared plan she just signed up for this around 18 to 24mnths ago and it does not include tethering so I guess im confused if all tiered plans are supposed to have free tethering what gives?

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actually the other plan that i have (currently has 3 devices on it) is the initial unlimited data package probably from around the 6 to 7 yr ago mark and even though it is unlimited it does not include tethering and i can't change it do to an employer subsidy if i change it i loose it (or so i was told)
I also have a friend who has a tiered data plan from AT&T which is not the family shared plan she just signed up for this around 18 to 24mnths ago and it does not include tethering so I guess im confused if all tiered plans are supposed to have free tethering what gives?
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The unlimited plans never allowed tethering (for obvious reasons) and you're correct, once you give it up, it's gone. The employer discount applies to some portion of your bill no matter what plan you're on, it's just better on certain ones depending on the employer's agreement. I have 3 unlim data lines, and with my discount they're $23 each (pretty awesome, but no "official" tethering).
The 18/20 month next program has to do with financing the phone, so she may or may not get tethering with her plan regardless of the phone terms. But basically if you have the 1,2,4,6,10,20,30 etc gigabyte shared data plan, tethering has been included in all of them, all along. If it's an individual 250mb, 300mb, 2gb, or 3gb feature, tethering is not included.

zoso28 said:
The unlimited plans never allowed tethering (for obvious reasons) and you're correct, once you give it up, it's gone. The employer discount applies to some portion of your bill no matter what plan you're on, it's just better on certain ones depending on the employer's agreement. I have 3 unlim data lines, and with my discount they're $23 each (pretty awesome, but no "official" tethering).
The 18/20 month next program has to do with financing the phone, so she may or may not get tethering with her plan regardless of the phone terms. But basically if you have the 1,2,4,6,10,20,30 etc gigabyte shared data plan, tethering has been included in all of them, all along. If it's an individual 250mb, 300mb, 2gb, or 3gb feature, tethering is not included.
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I see your from the East Coast? I'm starting to think AT&T has different plans depending on geographic location when i switched my family line tothe family shared plan (less than a year ago) there was no 20 or 30gb shared plans only a 10gb and a 15gb, are the 20 and 30gb plans new? if so Im going to go switch getting tired of the kids burning thru 10gb of data in a week :laugh::laugh:

cstayton said:
I see your from the East Coast? I'm starting to think AT&T has different plans depending on geographic location when i switched my family line tothe family shared plan (less than a year ago) there was no 20 or 30gb shared plans only a 10gb and a 15gb, are the 20 and 30gb plans new? if so Im going to go switch getting tired of the kids burning thru 10gb of data in a week :laugh::laugh:
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They do have different options in different markets but mostly when they're testing something new or the regulations force it. The 20/30/40/50GB plans only came out in the last couple months though

zoso28 said:
They do have different options in different markets but mostly when they're testing something new or the regulations force it. The 20/30/40/50GB plans only came out in the last couple months though
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thanks, I'll be checking with my local carrier on the way home tonight

The reason why I find tethering useless is because of well some of us can't afford the 10GB plan is far more money than I ever want to pay AT&T for anything. I am on the 1GB plan because it's all I can afford to buy from them with all of my lines. Actually what is your bill like anyway? It's gotta be over like $300. Your employee discount depending on what agreements your job has with AT&T might only apply to the rate plan only and not device connection charges. I get an 8% discount with my job but it only applies to the $25 rate plan so I get $2 off and not the $11.20 I was hoping for...

Discounts go as high as 28% so someone can get a 10G plan with their own phone for $87/mo which ain't bad. Unfortunately you're right, discounts only apply to the primary group feature ($100 for 10gb, $60 for 700min familytalk, etc). I'm lucky enough to have a few unlimited data lines with a generous discount on everything so I keep my plan as is, but it's still expensive. $220/mo for 4 lines

Verizon N6 or spend more on GooglePlay N6

I have an upgrade available on my line(unlimited data VZW) and currently have the S4 and would like to go back to a nexus (previously had a Galaxy nexus and loved its openness) Im thinking about transferring the upgrade to my moms line(shared family data plan) and getting the N6 at $249 and then giving her my S4 so she has a better phone then what she has(cheap cheap smart phone). Are there any downside to the Verizon version of the N6? Its quite a bit cheaper then the Google play version so im really leaning towards that. After we buy the N6 on her line i would just switch the sim cards in our phone right? So she'd have the S4 and id have the N6.

lscheres said:
I have an upgrade available on my line(unlimited data VZW) and currently have the S4 and would like to go back to a nexus (previously had a Galaxy nexus and loved its openness) Im thinking about transferring the upgrade to my moms line(shared family data plan) and getting the N6 at $249 and then giving her my S4 so she has a better phone then what she has(cheap cheap smart phone). Are there any downside to the Verizon version of the N6? Its quite a bit cheaper then the Google play version so im really leaning towards that. After we buy the N6 on her line i would just switch the sim cards in our phone right? So she'd have the S4 and id have the N6.
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Verizon doesn't offer the 64gb version. Nor white so far.

I have the unlimited plan to and just FYI you're not going to get a free upgrade to a nexus or any other phone and be able to retain your unlimited plan. The only way to retain your unlimited is to pay for the phone outright whether it's from Verizon or Google it really doesn't matter.
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lol, by buying from verizon with a "discount", and extending your contract, you are actually paying more than buying it in full, and going with a non contract plan(not verizon for sure).

Well when some other provider can come out here and get me high speed access with 50-60 gigs a month without charging me more than $70 I'm on board.
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I thought you could still transfer upgrades??
DebianDog said:
I have the unlimited plan to and just FYI you're not going to get a free upgrade to a nexus or any other phone and be able to retain your unlimited plan. The only way to retain your unlimited is to pay for the phone outright whether it's from Verizon or Google it really doesn't matter.
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Does verizon not allow you to transfer upgrades anymore? Im not doing any switching or anything but just giving another line on our plan the discount/upgrade my line is never going to use. then after the whole deal is done and the non unlimited plan has signed a new contract and has a new n6 on it i cant just switch our sim cards and give my mom(the non unlimited line) my s4 and take her new n6??
And ya ill never leave Verizon unless t mobile picks up their speed in my area. Verizon is the only carrier that actually works all over town and has 40mbs+ down almost anywhere if you have at least 3 bars

DebianDog said:
Well when some other provider can come out here and get me high speed access with 50-60 gigs a month without charging me more than $70 I'm on board.
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thats exactly what i pay for unlimited data on tmobile, and no contract. that price and a discounted n6, thats a good deal. but i know that isnt the normal verizon price.

simms22 said:
thats exactly what i pay for unlimited data on tmobile, and no contract. that price and a discounted n6, thats a good deal. but i know that isnt the normal verizon price.
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Ya and after you pass 4gb your speed goes down to almost unusable. At least in my area its basically impossible to even look at Facebook over 2g

simms22 said:
thats exactly what i pay for unlimited data on tmobile, and no contract. that price and a discounted n6, thats a good deal. but i know that isnt the normal verizon price.
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Where I live you can't make a phone call with t-mobile FORGET about data.
lscheres said:
Does verizon not allow you to transfer upgrades anymore? Im not doing any switching or anything but just giving another line on our plan the discount/upgrade my line is never going to use. then after the whole deal is done and the non unlimited plan has signed a new contract and has a new n6 on it i cant just switch our sim cards and give my mom(the non unlimited line) my s4 and take her new n6??
And ya ill never leave Verizon unless t mobile picks up their speed in my area. Verizon is the only carrier that actually works all over town and has 40mbs+ down almost anywhere if you have at least 3 bars
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I'm not sure. A few of my friends had been swindled out of their unlimited plan by not paying attention to what they're signing I would be very interested to hear how it goes for you.
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lscheres said:
Ya and after you pass 4gb your speed goes down to almost unusable. At least in my area its basically impossible to even look at Facebook over 2g
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no such thing, lol. imagine much? im in nyc right now, and id say that in nyc tmobile has by far the fastest consistent data speeds in and around nyc. btw, nyc is tmobiles largest market, wtf would they cover it in 2G? i havent seen anything below hspa+ in nyc for the last 4 years. hspa+ is 3(.5)G, with data speeds over 42mbps.

Well tmobile still sucks here as it always has. On a good day I can get 2g
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simms22 said:
no such thing, lol. imagine much? im in nyc right now, and id say that in nyc tmobile has by far the fastest consistent data speeds in and around nyc. btw, nyc is tmobiles largest market, wtf would they cover it in 2G? i havent seen anything below hspa+ in nyc for the last 4 years. hspa+ is 3(.5)G, with data speeds over 42mbps.
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Your very lucky, i wish i could switch to tmobile, better phones, better prices, better customer service, better a lot of things lol. But here in the pacific north west specifically eastern Washington, tmobile sucks fat balls as soon as you step out of a city and sucks pretty bad if you're near any big buildings. Its like they used the very least possible towers to cover my city lol

DebianDog said:
I have the unlimited plan to and just FYI you're not going to get a free upgrade to a nexus or any other phone and be able to retain your unlimited plan. The only way to retain your unlimited is to pay for the phone outright whether it's from Verizon or Google it really doesn't matter.
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That's absolutely false. I help people every day use their UDP line upgrades and keep UDP.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon
Be sure and read the wiki.
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lscheres said:
I have an upgrade available on my line(unlimited data VZW) and currently have the S4 and would like to go back to a nexus (previously had a Galaxy nexus and loved its openness) Im thinking about transferring the upgrade to my moms line(shared family data plan) and getting the N6 at $249 and then giving her my S4 so she has a better phone then what she has(cheap cheap smart phone).
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Is your UDP line in the same account as your mom's? Or is it in a subaccount?
This is the thread on using a UDP line's upgrade and keeping UDP. Be sure and read the wiki.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon

JulesJam said:
That's absolutely false. I help people every day use their UDP line upgrades and keep UDP.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon
Be sure and read the wiki.
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Is your UDP line in the same account as your mom's? Or is it in a subaccount?
This is the thread on using a UDP line's upgrade and keeping UDP. Be sure and read the wiki.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon
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No offense I have seen that site before and SCAM WARNINGS went off. It may be legitimate but seems sketchy.
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DebianDog said:
No offense I have seen that site before and SCAM WARNINGS went off. It may be legitimate but seems sketchy.
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Well since I am the one who is helping everyone on that site I can tell you it is not a scam at all. I have used the methods myself at least 7 times now, kept UDP every time and have helped hundreds of people do it successfully.
Be sure and read the wiki.