I know a lot of you are anxiously awaiting the voodoo port to our phone but I just wanted to let you know, in case you hadn't heard, that even our stock ROM supports external, driverless DACs and amps. I am using an ODAC and O2 headphone amp but I confirmed FiiO E7s also work so I presume any high-quality DAC will hook right up.
I just got an OTB host adaptor (micro to full size USB), plugged my DAC/amp into the USB and told the ROM (settings>Accessory> Audio Output mode (checked to use external speakers when plugged into a dock) and told the HDMI output to use stereo since I have only two ears and use headphones at work.
The sound, once you've bipassed the DAC internal to the phone is, as you might expect, exemplary- eerily crystal clear and quiet with outstanding dynamics. Since the ODAC is very efficient and the E7 is internally powered neither solution should have any major effect on battery life. Once you've heard an external DAC on this phone you'll feel as sad if you have to use the headphone jack again as you no doubt felt when you tried to use an old "tiny" phone as getting your GN2.
I was quite disappointed with the (for me) relatively poor pen support (I was expecting Newton - like integration), the missing multi-tasking, etc but this feature makes up for it all- if you like music, try it and I guarantee it'll bring a smile to your face whatever else is going on with your day. Poweramp and Music, by the way, support 320k VBR, FLAC and lossless AAC no problem- it just sounds wonderful.
Interesting! I've been really surprised at how great the sound is just using bluetooth audio in the car. Can you provide links/ specific models for these items? Found the FiiO E7 on Amazon, not bad pricewise. I have an OTG thingy I have used with my Nexus 7 but haven't tried it yet with the Note2. I'm using KKR headphones at home and could see going portable with the right setup. Also not above putting stuff together in a box, been playing with Arduino's lately.
Also, assuming the Note2 is the center of my future portable sound world (just got the 64G Sandisk at Best Buy) what format would you recommend for ripping my CDs? I brought some to work today to rip while working but haven't really looked at the various lossless solutions. I would like to get some kind of replaygain-like functionality. Currently using DeadBeef for my player but open to the best solution there too.
I use the fiio e17 . you need a great pair of cans to basically get the best sound.
(I am working on a project to create and 3d print a case that will contain the phone and the fiio. will keep you posted.
I finally tried connecting my Hot audio Dac destroyer (want to get a new dac) to this phone and it seems to work! Used it with my Akg q701's so I think I also need an external amp.
If the sound is coming out of the dac's headphone out is the internal dac of the phone bypassed or if not how do we do so?
guisar said:
I know a lot of you are anxiously awaiting the voodoo port to our phone but I just wanted to let you know, in case you hadn't heard, that even our stock ROM supports external, driverless DACs and amps. I am using an ODAC and O2 headphone amp but I confirmed FiiO E7s also work so I presume any high-quality DAC will hook right up.
I just got an OTB host adaptor (micro to full size USB), plugged my DAC/amp into the USB and told the ROM (settings>Accessory> Audio Output mode (checked to use external speakers when plugged into a dock) and told the HDMI output to use stereo since I have only two ears and use headphones at work.
The sound, once you've bipassed the DAC internal to the phone is, as you might expect, exemplary- eerily crystal clear and quiet with outstanding dynamics. Since the ODAC is very efficient and the E7 is internally powered neither solution should have any major effect on battery life. Once you've heard an external DAC on this phone you'll feel as sad if you have to use the headphone jack again as you no doubt felt when you tried to use an old "tiny" phone as getting your GN2.
I was quite disappointed with the (for me) relatively poor pen support (I was expecting Newton - like integration), the missing multi-tasking, etc but this feature makes up for it all- if you like music, try it and I guarantee it'll bring a smile to your face whatever else is going on with your day. Poweramp and Music, by the way, support 320k VBR, FLAC and lossless AAC no problem- it just sounds wonderful.
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This is relatively widely known, there is a USB audio thread here and it is mentioned in the Sound Quality thread here in the Note 2 subforums
I demonstrate it in the video below, and also did the same in my S3 video of the same kind. I'm using an RSA Intruder with mine, and get the Leckteron UHA-6S.MKII in the post in a few days to try out as well.
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Original article: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/08/long-live-35mm-htc-makes-the-switch/
Dongles. In-line adapters. Proprietary headset ports. If it’s an audio port on a mobile handset and it’s not 3.5mm, it’s junk. As we declared back in May, we’re done with all of it. Now HTC, sire of the T-Mobile G1, myTouch, and countless other smartphones plagued by non-3.5mm jacks, is done with it too.
If you’ve been keeping up with your Android handset news, you might already know that the HTC Hero will be the first HTC-made Android handset with a 3.5mm jack. As it turns out, it’s just the first of many; beginning with the Hero, HTC is moving away from requiring users to pump audio through their modified miniUSB port.
We’d heard this mentioned as a possibility at past press events. This was HTC’s response when we reached out for comment:
The vast majority of devices we launch after Hero will have a 3.5mm jack. Devices that we have already announced but that still come out after Hero will not necessarily be a part of this change.
So it sounds like we may still see a few handsets hit the shelves with worthless audio ports - but aural salvation is on the way. This is a hugely important move for HTC and, seeing as they’re the most fruitful supporter of the platform so far, for Android. People like using their own headphones, but hate carrying around 2 extra inches of an oh-so-easy-to-lose adapter cable. If you make using headphones a pain, the media playback functionality of the handset/platform tends to be abandoned. Long live the 3.5mm port!
I prefer extUSB.
It's smaller, allows for remote control for music and also can be used for tv out with sound.
3.5mm ruins the looks of the phone and is unnecessary... Just use a small adapter or HTC E100 which has remote music controls.
I also prefer the usb over the 3.5mm jack...been using it for over two years.
why do you prefer extUSB over the normal 3.5mm Jack ?
I think they will not only implement the standard 3.5mm Jack, but the one with 4 Contact Layers that also enables you to use a Remote.
did they say anywhere HTC was eliminating the USB port?
agreed about the 4 contact jack.
I don't think they will "eliminate" the USB Port in general since it's the easiest way to charge & sync our devices both at the same time.
Either they will go with the 4 Contact Jack or maybe a composite of USB & three Contact 3.5mm Jack... although the latter would take more time to develop/implement into the existing Software (TouchFLO3D & HTC Sense).
well i think the devices comes with less conectivity
IRDA, BT,wireless carrier services, WIFI, USB, EXT-USB, miniUSB, 3.5, 2.5, and all the variant for the audio jack.
and now the devices comes with BT Wifi and EXTUSB... what da?
hehehe if the device only has ext-usb without 3.5 how can you listen to music or videos with earphones HQ (neodimium magnets) by AIWA or SONY, Yamaha Bose or so much more!.... and cradled to the wall...????
I think:
With a Extended Adapter all in one! larger and ugly...
Its better to get separated 3.5 only for listen music and EXTUSB for hands-free wired, charge and sync.
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This is interesting because I noticed that phone manufacturers have agreed to make a common standard charging port so that chargers can be used for many makes and models of phone. They have chosen Mini USB for this purpose.
This means that if the above stories about a 3.5 Jack for sound are also true, that phones will not be able to share the same port for sound and charging. i.e. all phones would require two separate ports. This may sound ok, but ports are relatively big and gobble up sizable hunks of space internally - not ideal when you need to maximise the use of space. Ports, whether USB or Jack Plug styles are crude "ironmongery" compared with other parts of the ciruitry and it s wasteful to have two, when one port (USB) can fulfil both functions. USB is capable of many more functions and connections that Jacks; although I do understand however the desire to have Jacks for audio for compatibility with a wide range of headsets.
Mike
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The problem with having extUSB type of slots are because they increase the chances for accidental detachment of the plugs. Every device I ever used that required an adapter really sucked because the headphone always got disconnected easily.
Furthermore, the configuration is not practical for people who charge their phones while listening to music.
People don't use blue tooth for music and videos because of the battery issues and the occasional connection drop.
Next, having a splitter adapter is annoying because you have to carry it with you.
Furthermore they need to create lockable extUSB adapters in which the adapter will snap on the phone and never ever detach which makes the adapter a more practical and plausible idea.
Hell..... it's about time....
P.S. +1 to whoever gets the reference.
Just wondering if anyone had and remembers the n95's feature of video playback through the audio jack i still got my n95 cables and just wonder if theres a way for xperia to do the same thing? audio is fine of course
cheers
TV-out? X1 can't do it.
This has been discussed before mainly because the HTC TP has tv-out. Unfortunately, the X1 does not have the same tv-out feature as the TP.
Though wouldn't the more feasible thing be, if you have the cables handy, to try it?
Im pretty sure the xperia x1 lacks the hardware for tv out.
It doesn't, you can (if that's possible) connect to you TV or anything else via USB if you place it in storage mode.
I believe a phone having TV out is extremely useless.
And btw, a 3,5" jack only sends audio through your cables which is quite obvious imo..
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And btw, a 3,5" jack only sends audio through your cables which is quite obvious imo..
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3.5mm jacks can be modified to pass on more than just stereo audio (or receive); apart from optical digital audio I've had something that supported microphone in or something.
Well, the 3.5 mm jack from Xperia supports microphone in as well, doesn't it?
We all have got the headsets that came with the Xperia...
There's already a thread discussing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443271
Complete with pictures of the pins of the audio jack
a 3.5 connector can be used to transfer many things
had an old asus tnt2 video card with 3d shutter glasses which used
a 3.5 which I kinda doubt would do much good connecting to my x1
Obviously there are millions of iphone docks/stands with their own little amp & speakers built in. Some that I've heard are really quite impressive in terms of undistorted sound output.
Anything similar exist for us?
nothing on micro/mini usb basis - just few bluetoth examples from logitech
but maybe this changes something
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/apple-agrees-to-micro-usb-for-iphone-charging-in-eu/
Hello all. So I presume then as with the Touch HD the mini usb port does not support music etc. If this is true yet again HTC has not been thinking. All I want (like most others) is to drop the phone in a cradle so it can charged, plus I can listen to music with the added bonus of listening to music as my alarm.
jez
hello, I did this stuff here Alfa Romeo & Galaxy Tab integrating seamless the tab and my dashboard.
The overall result is very good, except for the audio volume, and being not an audio expert I fear that this is an impedence problem.
To make it very short, I just connected the headphone plug with the inputs of a 50W ("rms", real 50 watts they say, not fake 50w as standard OEM car audio), a kenwood KTP-500 thing. The problem is that the max volume is VERY VERY low in comparison to whatever oem standard ****ty car audio device, and that is quite impossible to me, and also for audio tuning shop owners I enquired for some advice.
So I think I need to convert, somehow, the signal to be good for the amplifier.
The amplifier has got switch between "low gain and high gain" but it does not change that much.
So I've got 2 plans to get an at least "normal" audio volume, amplifying the signal with some kind of "line amplifier", or find a guy (perhaps here? ) who can explain me the setup error, so that I can fix it. Shouln't be that difficult, but I'm ignorant in this stuff, and surprisingly, neither do know the people that works at kenwood/alpine/whateverBlingBling-audio shops in my city.
I also tried to debug my installation connecting a PSP, some other phones, a small television, an old cd player... all with the same low-volume result. So it's not a GalaxyTab (p1000, the good 'ol one, since it's exactly 2din fit) issue, but more general, having knowledge in audio signals may help...
So what is the point with connecting directly an earphone jack to the inputs of an amplifier? It's so amazing after 1 year having the tab as audio unit, it's a shame to have this volume issue è__é thanks for any clue
p.s. the audio quality is excellent, anyway, no buzz, humming or distortion. It's only... too low
I have the same problem, the volume is very very low, especially in a telephone conversation using speakers. However the sound quality is excellent. The problem is that you can not have a conversation without a headset ,when youare in a opne place.
I was wondering if something like this could help in improve output sound on over beloved htc hd2:
http://www.fiio.com.cn/product/index.aspx?ID=6
http://www.fiio.com.cn/product/index.aspx?ID=28&MenuID=020301
The other model can be used as digital to analog converter but only on pc . Has anyone tried something like this on leo?
I have used the E11, did improve the sound a little, but it would not be as good as using a USB DAC. Do note that the HD2 doesn't support connecting a USB DAC, so can't help you with that. A E5 would be a cheap and tiny upgrade in the sound quality.
Better to use EQ through something like PowerAmp. Occam's razor is best when it comes to the audio chain.
I tried poweramp ,neutron ,dsp manager and in the end when it comes to sq and funcionality in the end I think best way to go is default player and dsp manager. When hd2 was new and out I think I saw people managing to use it as usb hub. Or is just my memory playing tricks on me? Wouldn't something like that work with usb dac on hd2?
i have a firestone fireye mini which works quite well with the HD2 and is super small aswell.
just to throw that in.