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well im a full time welder and I've always liked my job But lately things have been going slow in my life and I feel like i'm just going nowhere in life.
I went to college coming out of high school and blew it off like an idiot. I've always been wanting to go back but I always feel like i'm setting myself up for failure and will just waste my time and money.
I'm 24 years old and now i'm at a point in my life where I have to start getting my **** together, but this welding job is just moving to slow for me.
for the past 3-4 years, I've been learning and working with computers. Im not a pro at it but I know more then the average person.
Well I've been doing a lot of thinking and its time I go back to school to improve my life. i want to get more into the computer world and chase a computer science degree. My question to you guys is, where should I start? I know I need to look into schools, classes etc. what I mean is what can I start studying in the mean time (before I actually start my schooling) so that I can have a head start.
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What kind of thing do you want to do with computers? Hardware, software, app development, web development, game development, db admin, network admin? There's loads of routes to go down, all dependant on what you want to do.
And if anyone recommends a programming language to you before you answer that question then they don't know what they're talking about. Either that, or they're just saying "this is what I know - look at me - aren't I clever?".
Im leaning toward network admin. Im planning to aign up fall or winter classes but I wanna study a bit before starting. My company will pay for the schooling depending on the grades.
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Good for you man !!! Its never too late to do something.
Im also going back to college in september, Im 22 with a fiance and child, But that aint stopping me !!
Hopefully looking to do a course on Programming and Software Development
I'm trying to learn Python. I think I can get the hang of it before school starts again in September.
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I can't advise you on the network admin side of things, other than you'll need a good degree to get a decent job, or start really at the bottom and work your way up slowly. It's quite a well-educated field, for real pros. There's plenty of hack and slash network admins out there, but they're the type that bring networks down by saying "I wonder what that does!" (I've worked with some of them before )
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Good for you man !!! Its never too late to do something.
Im also going back to college in september, Im 22 with a fiance and child, But that aint stopping me !!
Hopefully looking to do a course on Programming and Software Development
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Respect man. I think it gets harder once you have a family. I got a nice girl now and been thinking about settling down but the thought of not being able to provide is the only thing stopping me.
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I can't advise you on the network admin side of things, other than you'll need a good degree to get a decent job, or start really at the bottom and work your way up slowly. It's quite a well-educated field, for real pros. There's plenty of hack and slash network admins out there, but they're the type that bring networks down by saying "I wonder what that does!" (I've worked with some of them before )
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Well my plan is to use my company To pay for my school and at the.same time switch over to the I.T department (which will be no problem). That way I can be hands on while im learning. After im finished, I should have enough.experience to move up, weather its in this company or somewhere else.
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Absolutely, good luck with it. I was 22 before I got a qualification in programming, despite developing software since the age of 8. No-one would give me a job without it, so I did a course, got the paper and got a job. Been doing it ever since.
It's good to do something new and start over, as long as it's something you have a passion for.
I'm in medical school now, three years to graduation(but, I'll study another six years after that...). I have this friend, he's, I think over 30 years, and he's at the same "grade" as I am. He also was like you, had a "low-education"(help me here ) job, and then he decided to go into Med. I'm kinda proud of him, he's a good inspiration for people like you. It's a long way to become a doc, but it's never too late. I strongly recommend you to go to school, it'll be worth it!
All respect and luck shall be with you!
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Yea man 24 is not late at all! Im a emt and a emergency medical flight dispatcher and when my girl gets done with school in like 3 semesers i think ima go back and be a game warden for the state of louisiana. She is 28 and im 34 and we have a two year old good luck man its worth it.
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..if I were to go back to school I would like to take up Android Software Development & know all there is to know about Andy coz Andy is the Future
@Archer
my son will be graduating from HS, what's his best move to get into "Android Software Development"? you developed software at 8? how is that possible
tnx
Definitely check out the Community Colleges in your area, especially ones that have really good relationships with the better Engineering/Technical universities in your area. You will save yourself a ton doing your first two years there, and a lot of schools that will even let you get complete your four year degree through associated Community Colleges. You also get the benefit of smaller classes and professors that actually know your name.
I just finished my associates after going on and off forever so don't feel like you're outback because you've waited. Get it done man, you're still well ahead of the curve. If you want to start this fall though you need to go ahead and sign up.
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Is it bad that I don't want to go to college? I'm a high honors student and everything but I don't know. My parents would hate me for this. After highschool I want to book a flight to some other part of the country. Maybe somewhere in California? Find an okay job and a little apartment. Buy myself a comfy couch and live alone and sit and soak in life. It's all I want I guess... But I get it you guys are motivated by things like your own family and stuff. I'd love to find someone but I know that probably won't happen because of the person I am. So I have no need to have a lot of money or be rich at all like most people. Just enough to get by and maybe occasionally buy a game or phone or something haha.
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Don't be a hermit.
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Not really a hermit haha. Just going on with life but alone mostly. I'd still have a job and stuff which would lead to talking to some extent. I'd be kinda talking to you guys through here because I would never leave you guys :3 even if I did go to college my life would be the same. I'd just be earning more money....
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With the high cost of living in California, you'll need more motivation than that.
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Fine then :I Texas?
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I never lived there, but if boborone finds this thread, he can clue you in on TX.
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And as could I, im located about 45 minutes from houston xD
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Most apartments and stuff in my particular area are about 300 to 400 a month which isn't too bad for a decent place. But im in a small town, now if I was to drive about 15 minutes to the next town they can be around 700 to 1200 a month
Im a special case however the place I got me and the roommate own the property and the house, so we only have to pay utilities and bills.
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I am really worried about my future. I like android, mobile phone, computer such technology things. But now I'm studying BBA (Bachelor of Business Administration). I don't like this subject. Now I'm in 1st year. Actually I completed my secondary education getting highest grade (5 on 5) in our country but I have completed my higher secondary getting 3.8 on 5. Its shame for me, for my family. Actually I have fallen in love in preexamination time. And she had a boyfriend so I had nothing to do. It ruined my study I still love her. Then I didn't get chance any good university in our country for this low score. So my family told me to study BBA in private university ( in our country govt. universities are the best). My background was Science in secondary and higher secondary.
I want to be like all of you. I want to study about these technology things so I always stick with my mobile, computer but my family dislike it. What will I do now? I am not enjoying the business subject. I hate it. I like science. I got poor marks for the f**king love which ruined my life.
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lol,
my hobby is IT and programming and i'm a bachelor in business major in human resource dev't planning & management,
the thing is,
i enjoy my studies in business and love my hobby in technology,
every product design and feasibility researches i have,
it always involves technology because it is my turf,
apply technology in your business studies,
it will make your life worth every moment,
also,
if your a real man,
you need to make your own decisions because you are old enough to make tough decisions whether your family likes it or not,
its your life man,
you deserve to live it like the way you want it to be,
you are in control of the ship and no one else
before i finished i wanted to work in straighttalk wireless as a tech rep however my mom would'nt want me to study and work at the same time,
but you know what,
i did get the job,
i worked in the night and study in the morning,
i finished the degree and aced it!
my mom was proud of me even though she did'nt like the idea but at the end it was worth it...
love life brotha
deathnotice01 said:
lol,
my hobby is IT and programming and i'm a bachelor in business major in human resource dev't planning & management,
the thing is,
i enjoy my studies in business and love my hobby in technology,
every product design and feasibility researches i have,
it always involves technology because it is my turf,
apply technology in your business studies,
it will make your life worth every moment,
also,
if your a real man,
you need to make your own decisions because you are old enough to make tough decisions whether your family likes it or not,
its your life man,
you deserve to live it like the way you want it to be,
you are in control of the ship and no one else
before i finished i wanted to work in straighttalk wireless as a tech rep however my mom would'nt want me to study and work at the same time,
but you know what,
i did get the job,
i worked in the night and study in the morning,
i finished the degree and aced it!
my mom was proud of me even though she did'nt like the idea but at the end it was worth it...
love life brotha
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My story is same as op in case of love...
I can't resist her I kept staring in tutions
Its been more than a year..
Now I am in 12th grade and age 17
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alkesh95 said:
My story is same as op in case of love...
I can't resist her I kept staring in tutions
Its been more than a year..
Now I am in 12th grade and age 17
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Dude.. 12th = Boards in India..
I'm German but my high school was done in India.. I was in Delhi Public School, B'lore.. I was a loner in school. No one used to talk to me except one girl.. I considered her to be my best friend.. I even had a huge crush on her.. Just about 15 days before exams started, On valentine's day she proposed me and obviously i said yes.. After that i used to talk all day to her, keep thinking about her and what not.. After some of the exams were over(i guess 2 were left out of 5) one day she called me and said whatever happened between us was just a joke and she liked someone else. I was broken and ****ed up.. I cried all the time.. i couldn't study.. I couldn't do anything but cry.. I ruined my exams due to her.. and just got 69% aggregate..
I regret it till today.. That's the reason I'm still alone.. I've lost intrest in having a relationship..
So my advice.. Stay away from girls if you want good grades in your exams..
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Dude.. 12th = Boards in India..
I'm German but my high school was done in India.. I was in Delhi Public School, B'lore.. I was a loner in school. No one used to talk to me except one girl.. I considered her to be my best friend.. I even had a huge crush on her.. Just about 15 days before exams started, On valentine's day she proposed me and obviously i said yes.. After that i used to talk all day to her, keep thinking about her and what not.. After some of the exams were over(i guess 2 were left out of 5) one day she called me and said whatever happened between us was just a joke and she liked someone else. I was broken and ****ed up.. I cried all the time.. i couldn't study.. I couldn't do anything but cry.. I ruined my exams due to her.. and just got 69% aggregate..
I regret it till today.. That's the reason I'm still alone.. I've lost intrest in having a relationship..
So my advice.. Stay away from girls if you want good grades in your exams..
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Yes I know about your feelings. Its just ruined my life. I am not enjoying anything. Now there is no interest in my life. I love football and technology so much. Only from this I am searching my interest.
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i think you should do what you like most,because if you dont like what you are studing now,sooner or later you will leave it,you better do it now and do what you like!
deathnotice01 said:
lol,
my hobby is IT and programming and i'm a bachelor in business major in human resource dev't planning & management,
the thing is,
i enjoy my studies in business and love my hobby in technology,
every product design and feasibility researches i have,
it always involves technology because it is my turf,
apply technology in your business studies,
it will make your life worth every moment,
also,
if your a real man,
you need to make your own decisions because you are old enough to make tough decisions whether your family likes it or not,
its your life man,
you deserve to live it like the way you want it to be,
you are in control of the ship and no one else
before i finished i wanted to work in straighttalk wireless as a tech rep however my mom would'nt want me to study and work at the same time,
but you know what,
i did get the job,
i worked in the night and study in the morning,
i finished the degree and aced it!
my mom was proud of me even though she did'nt like the idea but at the end it was worth it...
love life brotha
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I think the system of study between your country and my country is so different. I love programming, technology very much. In our country there is no job for us. We can only do job after graduation. If we do job in studying time, people see it in narrow mind and they will think our family is mean/low class. The only thing student can do our country is teaching others(such as House tutor). Yes its my life and I will try my best. But I think the culture differs a lot. I think I will admit in an institution which teaches Programming or such things. Is it a good thinking? Then I can fulfil my dream.
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I think the system of study between your country and my country is so different. I love programming, technology very much. In our country there is no job for us. We can only do job after graduation. If we do job in studying time, people see it in narrow mind and they will think our family is mean/low class. The only thing student can do our country is teaching others(such as House tutor). Yes its my life and I will try my best. But I think the culture differs a lot. I think I will admit in an institution which teaches Programming or such things. Is it a good thinking? Then I can fulfil my dream.
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have you think of going to another country then?
btw,where are you from?
ashiksiles said:
I think the system of study between your country and my country is so different. I love programming, technology very much. In our country there is no job for us. We can only do job after graduation. If we do job in studying time, people see it in narrow mind and they will think our family is mean/low class. The only thing student can do our country is teaching others(such as House tutor). Yes its my life and I will try my best. But I think the culture differs a lot. I think I will admit in an institution which teaches Programming or such things. Is it a good thinking? Then I can fulfil my dream.
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i heard about how your country does'nt allow people to get a job while studying,
the best way to learn about anything is through real life application,
well,
anyways,
society in our perspective are two different things we rather not touch,
but for the girl thing...,
i've been there done that,
used to fall so madly in love with a girl way back in senior high,
i proposed to her on my birthday,
she said NO, fking NO!,
that was the worst birthday ever,
i tried to jump from our house that day,
got myself to the hospital,
the girl went and cried,
she said she was sorry,
i never said a word,
and since then we never talked to each other,
when i was on college who would have thought that we went to the same school together still we never talked,
now i have a sweet loving, beautiful girlfriend that is 100x better than her,
we are going to have our 3rd anniversary this 31st of august,
lesson learned:
wait for things, things will come in the right time,
if its not for you,
don't force it,
there's something way better in store for the future
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have you think of going to another country then?
btw,where are you from?
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Dude.. Indians.. They are resistant to send their children to other cities and you talking about a whole another country..
stamatis16 said:
have you think of going to another country then?
btw,where are you from?
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From Bangladesh. Bangladeshi. I don't know whether you hear about our country. But I love my country so much. Yes I want to do my IELTS /GRE to go abroad. But not now because my father won't allow it. And there need so money to do IELTS/GRE. He just admitted me into a private university spending a bunch of money.
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deathnotice01 said:
i heard about how your country does'nt allow people to get a job while studying,
the best way to learn about anything is through real life application,
well,
anyways,
society in our perspective are two different things we rather not touch,
but for the girl thing...,
i've been there done that,
used to fall so madly in love with a girl way back in senior high,
i proposed to her on my birthday,
she said NO, fking NO!,
that was the worst birthday ever,
i tried to jump from our house that day,
got myself to the hospital,
the girl went and cried,
she said she was sorry,
i never said a word,
and since then we never talked to each other,
when i was on college who would have thought that we went to the same school together still we never talked,
now i have a sweet loving, beautiful girlfriend that is 100x better than her,
we are going to have our 3rd anniversary this 31st of august,
lesson learned:
wait for things, things will come in the right time,
if its not for you,
don't force it,
there's something way better in store for the future
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Yes. After many things all of them about luck/destiny. We don't know what is waiting for us. May be it will good or may be it will bad for our life and I am trying to forget my crush which is like of impossible to me. But I'm trying.
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ashiksiles said:
Yes. After many things all of them about luck/destiny. We don't know what is waiting for us. May be it will good or may be it will bad for our life and I am trying to forget my crush which is like of impossible to me. But I'm trying.
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that's life bro,
it's hard and unfair as it always is,
just gotta have the balls to stand up and walk away
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that's life bro,
it's hard and unfair as it always is,
just gotta have the balls to stand up and walk away
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Thanks bro for sharing your incidents from which I can inspire myself.
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heinrichkaiser said:
Dude.. 12th = Boards in India..
I'm German but my high school was done in India.. I was in Delhi Public School, B'lore.. I was a loner in school. No one used to talk to me except one girl.. I considered her to be my best friend.. I even had a huge crush on her.. Just about 15 days before exams started, On valentine's day she proposed me and obviously i said yes.. After that i used to talk all day to her, keep thinking about her and what not.. After some of the exams were over(i guess 2 were left out of 5) one day she called me and said whatever happened between us was just a joke and she liked someone else. I was broken and ****ed up.. I cried all the time.. i couldn't study.. I couldn't do anything but cry.. I ruined my exams due to her.. and just got 69% aggregate..
I regret it till today.. That's the reason I'm still alone.. I've lost intrest in having a relationship..
So my advice.. Stay away from girls if you want good grades in your exams..
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Yep, most girls are bi*****...
If u want to live a happy life tie it to a goal not object or person.. Einstein...
Don't think about girls... U will find a honest and a pretty girl in the future.... But u can be a software engineer?
Good luck bro
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bandarigoda123 said:
Yep, most girls are bi*****...
If u want to live a happy life tie it to a goal not object or person.. Einstein...
Don't think about girls... U will find a honest and a pretty girl in the future.... But u can be a software engineer?
Good luck bro
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400+ posts, and still single. May I presume?
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
400+ posts, and still single. May I presume?
Sent from your mom.
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Haha... I asked from a girl previous year. I but she had a boyfriend.. She is pretty.. Eventually I stopped think about girls.. Until I finish my studies
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Haha... I asked from a girl previous year. I but she had a boyfriend.. She is pretty.. Eventually I stopped think about girls.. Until I finish my studies
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No wonder.
Keep calling girls *****es certainly won't help you build your case. Study respect.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
No wonder.
Keep calling girls *****es certainly won't help you build your case. Study respect.
Sent from your mom.
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I didn't mean all..... Okay I apologize for that, I u know some girls
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Now I have no interest in girls
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Haha... I asked from a girl previous year. I but she had a boyfriend.. She is pretty.. Eventually I stopped think about girls.. Until I finish my studies
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Bro its our human mind. I can't just stop thinking her like a computer can delete anything from its memory but I'm trying. Yes I want to be like programmer or software engineer whatever you say. I just love tech things. I want to pass my life doing this things. Buy without proper study it is impossible. I am studying business, how can I stick with tech things without studying business. If I hang with tech things than I will get a lower grade certificate after my graduation and a bunch of haters from my family!!!
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I am 16, in grade 10 and my grades are on a downhill tract. I got As and Bs in 8 and 9 but G10 is extremely hard and pressuring. I study hard every day and do NOT game a lot(Maybe 15 mins a day playing BF3). I know G11 and G12 are going to be much harder, and I will never get to go to University/College.
What could I do? I really feel bad.
If you are taking honor or AP classes drop them and get regular classes. I say its better to get As and Bus in regular than Cs and Ds in honors. You'll get a higher GPA. If your worried about college admission look into joining a sport. You'd be surprised at the people that are in college. Not all are book worms. Community college isn't a bad thing to join either. Talk to your school counselor.
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You don't game enough.
jaszek said:
You don't game enough.
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Please be serious
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If you are taking honor or AP classes drop them and get regular classes. I say its better to get As and Bus in regular than Cs and Ds in honors. You'll get a higher GPA. If your worried about college admission look into joining a sport. You'd be surprised at the people that are in college. Not all are book worms. Community college isn't a bad thing to join either. Talk to your school counselor.
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Thanks much, you made me feel better with some info.
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You need to examine where your grades are lacking. Are you completing and turning in all homework? How are your test grades?
Tutoring is a good idea, too. I don't know you, so this one is unlikely, but if you have even minor learning disabilities, there is a LOT that can be done.
All challenges can be overcome if you understand the areas of weakness and devise a plan to overcome them, specifically.
-Accidental Asshole
If you can, a tutor can work wonders. They can be expensive I realize. My son homeschools, and we got him a tutor for algebra. It has really made a difference for him.
When I was in school, wow 22 years ago, I got behind and never caught back up. I did get a 3.0 GPA, but only because. I was real good in certain classes, so be wise with you course selections. Pick subjects that you can do well in to go along with the rest.You would probably find your teachers to be very helpful if you asked them for help. They love it when someone wants to learn, and shows initiative.
Also, college is not the only way to make it in life. There are many fields and business opportunities for someone without a college degree. I am not rich, but have zero debt, own my house, cars, toys, etc... I own my own company and never finished college. Just wasn't for me. I know several millionaires who never went to college. They were just smart with their choices!
Don't give up. That never accomplished anything .
Good luck.
Go rob a bank, then get caught and go to jail. You will get free food/clothes/shelter.
My gosh, you people are angels, thanks much for your help and please keep em coming
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StormMcCloud said:
Go rob a bank, then get caught and go to jail. You will get free food/clothes/shelter.
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lol
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chrism.brunner said:
If you can, a tutor can work wonders. They can be expensive I realize. My son homeschools, and we got him a tutor for algebra. It has really made a difference for him.
When I was in school, wow 22 years ago, I got behind and never caught back up. I did get a 3.0 GPA, but only because. I was real good in certain classes, so be wise with you course selections. Pick subjects that you can do well in to go along with the rest.You would probably find your teachers to be very helpful if you asked them for help. They love it when someone wants to learn, and shows initiative.
Also, college is not the only way to make it in life. There are many fields and business opportunities for someone without a college degree. I am not rich, but have zero debt, own my house, cars, toys, etc... I own my own company and never finished college. Just wasn't for me. I know several millionaires who never went to college. They were just smart with their choices!
Don't give up. That never accomplished anything .
Good luck.
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Wow, I admire you. Wish you great luck for your business.
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lol
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If you have a chance to do some internships at museums or a zoo, go for it, I did and had a blast! It adds an element of fun to high school. Also I transferred out of high school to the high school completion program at my community college in Portland, absolutely loved it! Anyway just be smart and enthusiastic about your choices, and try to enjoy a few courses along the way.
Jake
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If you have a chance to do some internships at museums or a zoo, go for it, I did and had a blast! It adds an element of fun to high school. Also I transferred out of high school to the high school completion program at my community college in Portland, absolutely loved it! Anyway just be smart and enthusiastic about your choices, and try to enjoy a few courses along the way.
Jake
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Exactly, that is my perspective on life too. Do what I love and as long as I get a good enough pay to make my family happy, I am good.
However, in South Asian culture(I live in Saskatchewan Canada) people think that if you don't go to university, you are a failure.
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You don't game enough.
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Please be serious
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i do remember a post regarding video gamers and higher IQ's
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Exactly, that is my perspective on life too. Do what I love and as long as I get a good enough pay to make my family happy, I am good.
However, in South Asian culture(I live in Saskatchewan Canada) people think that if you don't go to university, you are a failure.
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Amen to that, brother.
I'm studying in India and anything less than a post graduate or a professional degree is considered sin.
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i do remember a post regarding video gamers and higher IQ's
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Gamers tend to be better at making fast, on the spot, intelligent decisions, while non gamers aren't.
jaszek said:
Gamers tend to be better at making fast, on the spot, intelligent decisions, while non gamers aren't.
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Don't discount a lifelong diciplined musician's ability to react the same way, or better.
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You don't game enough.
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Dude, be serious.
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Honestly, and I say this from experience, 10th grade is the hardest. To me after that highschool flew by with ease. I took AP classes until I decided to ditch them my senior year. Not stressing about stuff helps too bro. Best of luck.
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Its not hard. You just need to decided if you want to wake up 6 days a week for a really crappy job pays nothing for the next 40 years or sacrifice a few years now to be doing what you want and having a great stress free life. Its up to you. Pick up the book now!
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I enrolled in the University of Phoenix, into thier BS Computer Software engineering program. My question, is it worth it? How do employers look at for profit schools like U of P or ITT? Anybody working in the IT field who have recieved a degree at a for profit school? Any hiring managers out there? What is your opinion on schools like this?
Thank you for your time.
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Bump! No opinions?
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I don't think most places care if it's a for profit school.
Take a look at the 'Career into Android' series on XDA TV. Pretty much, if you know your code, you are good to go. Yes, good universities do make a good impression but that's not the only thing that people look at.
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veeman said:
I don't think most places care if it's a for profit school.
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ak700 said:
Take a look at the 'Career into Android' series on XDA TV. Pretty much, if you know your code, you are good to go. Yes, good universities do make a good impression but that's not the only thing that people look at.
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Thanks guys. Will check out that link to ak700!
LoopDoGG79 said:
I enrolled in the University of Phoenix, into thier BS Computer Software engineering program. My question, is it worth it? How do employers look at for profit schools like U of P or ITT? Anybody working in the IT field who have recieved a degree at a for profit school? Any hiring managers out there? What is your opinion on schools like this?
Thank you for your time.
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I live here in Phoenix, but I think there are way better schools as long you have enough funds because I’ve seen some schools where its way expensive but offer better opportunities.
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I have harsh words. Go to a real school. Its mainly because of people looking to get a degree quick, that real University loans are so high. An overwhelming majority of college loan debt is from these for profit schools. For profit schools aren't recognized by major corporations, hospitals, etc. Mostly private or local (to the school) businesses that are familiar with the accreditation process of for profit schools will hire those with a degree from a for profit college. Even then with the accelerated degree, one would never make as much money as a person with a degree from a regionally accredited University.
Short story. While I was in school, a friend of mine was bragging about his girlfriend getting her degree in nursing from a for profit college. He kept bragging that she was going to make a lot of money. Then when she applied at the local Mayo Clinic (ranked the top hospital in the world) they denied her outright because they didn't recognize her degree. She then had to go back to working at a nursing home which recognized her degree.
All in all, take the extra time to go to a traditional school. It will pay off much more in the long run and you'll actually gain knowledge and skill and retain it versus some online degree.
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I have harsh words. Go to a real school. Its mainly because of people looking to get a degree quick, that real University loans are so high. An overwhelming majority of college loan debt is from these for profit schools. For profit schools aren't recognized by major corporations, hospitals, etc. Mostly private or local (to the school) businesses that are familiar with the accreditation process of for profit schools will hire those with a degree from a for profit college. Even then with the accelerated degree, one would never make as much money as a person with a degree from a regionally accredited University.
Short story. While I was in school, a friend of mine was bragging about his girlfriend getting her degree in nursing from a for profit college. He kept bragging that she was going to make a lot of money. Then when she applied at the local Mayo Clinic (ranked the top hospital in the world) they denied her outright because they didn't recognize her degree. She then had to go back to working at a nursing home which recognized her degree.
All in all, take the extra time to go to a traditional school. It will pay off much more in the long run and you'll actually gain knowledge and skill and retain it versus some online degree.
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Thanks for the response. I do go to class once a week. It's not accelerated, a 4 year degree, will take 4 years. I created a thread in the university of Phoenix forum. The responses of people's experiences was encouraging. Not all were positive, but there was plenty of examples of those successfully using their degree. I wish I did go to a traditional school when I was young, but I didn't. I have kids and a wife and work full time. A traditional school will just not work for me.
I know of multiple people that rather than pursuing a degree in programming they taught themselves through online resources (articles/tutorials). Granted this path is only suited for a person that is a self starter, but you will probably learn more. With this path you would probably not be able to apply for a job a large company immediately. You would first have build up your experience by doing side projects and working for smaller companies.
The best example I know is a friend of mine that doesn't have a degree, but learned on his own. He started out building a couple blog sites using Wordpress. He then sold his blog site for a couple thousand dollars. From there he got a job with a local website design firm and moved up to their head project manager and partner. He was in talks with buying out one partner, when he got a job with FireEngineRed as there lead mobile app designer.
I personally wouldn't spend money on a degree from a for profit school, but everyone has a unique situation. Good luck man.
Ok guys I have a dillema right here,that's why I went straight to the off topic page,and start writing this.So my birthday is soon,to be exact my 18th,my brother said he wants to buy me something,therefore I have two choices,and to be honest,I don't know what to choose.So my choices are either a an electric guitar,or a laptop or chuall I be more precise a Chromebook.Now since it's my 18th and I getting this from my brother,I have to choose wisely...Chromebook,yeah I would use it,what else I would need it,installing ubuntu eclipse and start a little programing,plus I need it for school and documents,and basically nothing else,alright maybe a movie or two,and a little bit of music.Guitar,hmmm let's see.I would like to get it,I would like to learn to play because let's say this is my first time of gettin a guitar,and I absoluetly have no experience in the same.I would like to learn to play all the famouse solos and,I am not expecting anything big,but like just playing for myself,so what to do,if ou have any idea about any of this,guys please,help!Thanks!
Get the chrome book, learning guitar takes a lot of time and every time you stop for a while you have to work hard to learn it again. However, if you have a lot of time and you really want it, get the guitar
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Ahh,well,in a year I'm going of to university,so I guess I don't have that much time :/
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Ahh,well,in a year I'm going of to university,so I guess I don't have that much time :/
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Then a chrome book would be perfect, it has a nice battery life and its light, but I recommend you putting a large HDD in it and install a Linux distro (don't use Ubuntu, its slow as hell)
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Go for the chromebook
Tried to learn guitar via self study myself...i accomplished to learn the open string chrods, and switching between those, but thats it, after that i began my life as a student and ever since i barely came around to touch my guitar :/
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Chromebook is the best choice. I bought a guitar and gave up because I remembered that I am not musically inclined.
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Guitar
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Get a guitar. It's more real life orientated. The Chromebook will just make you spend more time in a world that doesn't exist (although I do have a Chromebook and totally adore it!)
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Get a guitar. It's more real life orientated. The Chromebook will just make you spend more time in a world that doesn't exist (although I do have a Chromebook and totally adore it!)
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You don't think the computer could benefit him with him going to school?
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Get a guitar. It's more real life orientated. The Chromebook will just make you spend more time in a world that doesn't exist (although I do have a Chromebook and totally adore it!)
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The problem with a guitar is that it takes a lot of time and passion but if you have both Time and passion you should definately take the guitar
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You don't think the computer could benefit him with him going to school?
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Of course it would, but he's going to spend the vast majority of his life out of school. I believe in spiritual learning, not knowledge cramming.
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Of course it would, but he's going to spend the vast majority of his life out of school. I believe in spiritual learning, not knowledge cramming.
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What? Getting on XDA during class is the best spiritual learning there is.
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Of course it would, but he's going to spend the vast majority of his life out of school. I believe in spiritual learning, not knowledge cramming.
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Yet there are many other things to do, like a sport (for example: climbing, swimming, diving or any fight sport like judo) in my oppinion these things bring you more than learning guitar...especially when you try to do it via self study...you need reeeeally much time and you have to be very disciplined, if you havnt got both then guitar would not be as good as a chromebook, which you will need for university more than a guitar
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Yet there are many other things to do, like a sport (for example: climbing, swimming, diving or any fight sport like judo) in my oppinion these things bring you more than learning guitar...especially when you try to do it via self study...you need reeeeally much time and you have to be very disciplined, if you havnt got both then guitar would not be as good as a chromebook, which you will need for university more than a guitar
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Yep, that's all fine. It's just my opinion. And it's right :highfive:
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Yep, that's all fine. It's just my opinion. And it's right :highfive:
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Well there are 2 oppinions, mine and the wrong one
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How about gettin some moneh and savin it fo college :cyclops:
Ah man,I guess this is not so serious but it is a tough decision,like when women choose between shoes and dress....but anyway hey,I talked to couple of people that have a guitar and are programmers in fact.They told me if I really want to buy a guitar,I have to start with acoustic (I have 0 experience in playing a guitar).So first get acoustic,play well on it and than go to electric,which to be honest,I don't like that idea,because I don't have neither time or money for doing that.Yet I would also like soo much to learn to play Santana,Slash,Van Halen and many other famous guitarists.But looks all my efforts for buying a guitar are going to waste,mainly because of the reasons above.But hey heads up!! right..?I would like to have a chromebook,I would definitely use it,and when I get money from being a world leading developer,I will buy a guitar!Still right..?
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Ah man,I guess this is not so serious but it is a tough decision,like when women choose between shoes and dress....but anyway hey,I talked to couple of people that have a guitar and are programmers in fact.They told me if I really want to buy a guitar,I have to start with acoustic (I have 0 experience in playing a guitar).So first get acoustic,play well on it and than go to electric,which to be honest,I don't like that idea,because I don't have neither time or money for doing that.Yet I would also like soo much to learn to play Santana,Slash,Van Halen and many other famous guitarists.But looks all my efforts for buying a guitar are going to waste,mainly because of the reasons above.But hey heads up!! right..?I would like to have a chromebook,I would definitely use it,and when I get money from being a world leading developer,I will buy a guitar!Still right..?
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sounds like a great plan :thumbup:
I just want some money.. so i can buy anything what i want
I used to play guitar, but I gave it up.
Ok, I admit I only played for one day
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