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Possible issue with LPY - CLOSED - read updated sticky post instead

UPDATE: this thread is closed as Entropy512 has already updated his post and confimed the problem
**moderators, pls remove this post if you want to, since it has been added in the sticky post
thx for those who chose to read this and decided on thier own what to do next
thx for those who kept silent, either like or dislike this post
thx for those claimed they have reformatted the device so many times but still running, but pls report if it failed one day. i am not hoping that ur phone will be bricked, instead, just to inform us what caused it
thx for those against this post with spams, even with possible personal attacks. i learnt a lot of english words
lastly, after the experience this time, it further urges me that this is not the place for me
good luck to u all
FROM THE MODERATOR : This news is not new, and YES you should all take great care when flashing. DO YOUR RESEARCH......... do not flash custom roms without the proper knowledge to do it safely (duh)......
Very few people have had any issue with bricking (I only know of 2)......
BUT do Your Homework........ Oka1 Moderator
FWD: by chainfire:
WARNING: I have just been informed that LPY *does* suffer from the I/O bug. Do *not* use any CWM functions ! They are dangerous and may hardbrick your flash memory !
Deleting large files while fully booted may also cause problems with your flash memory.
Also see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633943
Say tuned for further information.
original post by chainfire: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19030788&postcount=6 --- This is 6 months old hardly current information....... food for thought- oka1
incorrect link used above. the correct one should be
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25966147#post25966147
EDIT: some ppl in the general thread talked about even OTA upgrade is affected. can someone pls confirm this to other ppls here?
EDIT2: for the sake of safety, i suggest NOT upgrading to LPY until the problem is solved and confirmed
EDIT3: so???
what does it mean?
- you risk bricking your phone if u use the LPY rom
- at this time, the exact problem areas are to be determined
- no evidence so far if this is due to cwm or cfroot's, or it could be the stock rom
- if you r still using gb (android 2.3.6), it is suggested to stick with it at the moment
- it is "assumed" that it was due to formatting the partitions in the recovery
- wipe is NOT safe as well. i checked the source and found that a wipe will call the format_volume function, ie to do a format
is it safe to go back to gb?
- all i can say is, gb should be safe. but the problem is, how to get back to gb safely
can i flash a gb via pc odin?
- yes, you can. but again, no guarantee
is it safe to upgrade via pc odin or OTA?
- no one can assure u it is safe
- some ppl reported the phone bricked via OTA upgrade. maybe he was using a leaked one before but yet to confirm
it's only 5-10% failures so why should we concern about this?
- it's simple. u will only realize u r a victum after your phone bricked
- what we know is the number of ppl suffered. what we will know is the number of ppl who suffered avoidable issues after reading this post. but what we dono is how many lives we saved
my phone is working fine with LPY now. i cant see any problem
- as i said, u wont know what's next. perhaps u r lucky and i am lucky too, for now
what to do then?
- sorry, i want to know too. just wait and see what happen
so r u bxllshxting?
- i dont and wont mind if you think so. this is JUST A WARNING. you certainly have the final say whether to be alerted or simply ignore this post
* to moderators
even i will be banned, i will still post this to let ppl be aware about this

but its ok to use on its own....LPY

Will we ever get rid of this hardbricking issues, well how unlucky we are with this, this is getting ridiculous...

vinokirk said:
but its ok to use on its own....LPY
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ppl in the gerenal section mentioned even OTA has this problem, although i cant proof it

ICS for Note seems to be star-crossed....

I just went back from Stock ICS by flashing Abyss first, though I wiped from with-in CF-LPY kernel no issues, restored a nandroid of Stunner. Everything seems to be working fine.
Also this shouldn't be in Development. IMHO.

OK then I "say tuned for further information"

This is a officiele kernel so no bugs, problem is ower cwm and the things that we do with the phone that a normale person not do with a phone. Xda devs are not fully understanding ics and they tread it like a gb. See all ics threads that post this rom have problems.

Ok so now im.on alba ics with lpy kernel. How do i get back to gb. Use pc odin and flash the gb firmware that doesnt cause triangle and increase cojnter??
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

robertberma said:
This is a officiele kernel so no bugs, problem is ower cwm and the things that we do with the phone that a normale person not do with a phone. Xda devs are not fully understanding ics and they tread it like a gb. See all ics threads that post this rom have problems.
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ppl claimed OTA is affected
also, official rom doesnt mean bugs free
huzz said:
Also this shouldn't be in Development. IMHO.
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9 out of 10 ppl came here just for download roms. i don care if it's not for development
if we don inform ppl about this, we are not a responsible developer

****in ****, was waiting so long for official ics and now it seems to cause bricks, damn. But thnx for the info, wont be using cwm recovery

so if i flash stock rom via pc odin and dont root it will all be good?
i dont need root just want ics

DNK13 said:
so if i flash stock rom via pc odin and dont root it will all be good?
i dont need root just want ics
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I think so, yes.

I am using the official ICS and I have flashed CWM. No issues. I used CWM for full backup nandroid. Nothing is strange.
Sent via Galaxy Note

EdgaBimbam said:
****in ****, was waiting so long for official ics and now it seems to cause bricks, damn. But thnx for the info, wont be using cwm recovery
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Feel the same too...waited so long!! Yeah it seems its not a problem with the ICS kernel per se, but an incompatability with CWM. So we could technically still use the roms as long as we don't use CWM functions/recovery at all. Anyone confirm?

Yesterday, I was afraid to brick my GNote after installing ALBA LPY directly from Kingdroid V7.
First boot and Blocked in Home without any choice to remove battery.
Second boot, same... I installed it without fullwipe.
So Fullwipe from CWM and format /system partition... hanged... and hard reboot
Formatting /system was impossible...
Restore my nandroid backup... Hanged on /system... ouch...
Boot with CWM (franco.Kernel now)... Restore OK...

iT iS Me said:
I am using the official ICS and I have flashed CWM. No issues. I used CWM for full backup nandroid. Nothing is strange.
Sent via Galaxy Note
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i have no problems too, but i was a victum before and hard bricked my note

Maybe the main reason of bricks LPY is flashing from leaked ics roms? I cant believe about what is happening :O

ykk_five said:
ppl claimed OTA is affected
also, official rom doesnt mean bugs free
9 out of 10 ppl came here just for download roms. i don care if it's not for development
if we don inform ppl about this, we are not a responsible developer
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you don't need to justify yourself - you did the right thing to open this thread imho!

ykk_five said:
FWD: by chainfire:
WARNING: I have just been informed that LPY *does* suffer from the I/O bug. Do *not* use any CWM functions ! They are dangerous and may hardbrick your flash memory !
Deleting large files while fully booted may also cause problems with your flash memory.
Also see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633943
Say tuned for further information.
original post by chainfire: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19030788&postcount=6
EDIT: some ppl in the general thread talked about even OTA upgrade is affected. can someone pls confirm this to other ppls here?
EDIT2: for the sake of safety, i suggest NOT upgrading to LPY until the problem is solved and confirmed
* to moderators
even i will be banned, i will still post this to let ppl be aware about this
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so do you mean that flashing the whole CUSTOM rom with no root and cwm from xda or sammobile is not dangerous? is this what u mean pls reply so that all can know

What did I do wrong? N7000 bricked.

Good evening!
I've around with Androids for quite some time, and today, I finally got my N7000 to replace my I9100.
I've played around quite a lot with my I9100 and was happy with the CM9 nightlies for it.
I got my N7000 today and did the following:
1. Rooted it with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719t=1501719
2. Decided to install the latest CM9 nightly. I booted the same CWM from the tutorial above, chose install zip from SD card and... It hang. I left it for about 5 minutes and nada, nothing. I decided to shut if off and...
3. Nada. Black screen, no recovery, no battery charging, no download mode, no nada, nothing. Dead!
I'll take it this week to the nearest Samsung repair center and check how much it's gonna cost to get it fixed (if they can get it fixed at all). I don't intend to use any warranty whatsoever since I know even tough I have not voided the warranty flashing a different kernel, I did messing with it.
I just wish to know what was my mistake, so I do not do it again in the future. AFAIK I did not mess with the bootloader, so I was supposed to be safe, right?
Do I have ANY hope of getting it resurrected?
Any opinion helps!
Thanks!

marcelo.ellmann said:
Good evening!
I've around with Androids for quite some time, and today, I finally got my N7000 to replace my I9100.
I've played around quite a lot with my I9100 and was happy with the CM9 nightlies for it.
I got my N7000 today and did the following:
1. Rooted it with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719t=1501719
2. Decided to install the latest CM9 nightly. I booted the same CWM from the tutorial above, chose install zip from SD card and... It hang. I left it for about 5 minutes and nada, nothing. I decided to shut if off and...
3. Nada. Black screen, no recovery, no battery charging, no download mode, no nada, nothing. Dead!
I'll take it this week to the nearest Samsung repair center and check how much it's gonna cost to get it fixed (if they can get it fixed at all). I don't intend to use any warranty whatsoever since I know even tough I have not voided the warranty flashing a different kernel, I did messing with it.
I just wish to know what was my mistake, so I do not do it again in the future. AFAIK I did not mess with the bootloader, so I was supposed to be safe, right?
Do I have ANY hope of getting it resurrected?
Any opinion helps!
Thanks!
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ALWAYS flash a GB Kernel or ROM BEFORE flashing a CUSTOM ICS ROM.

Okay. Lesson learned, trust me.
Now here's the part where I feel very stupid: what's a GB kernel? Why is that a requirement for ICS ROMs? Was it not for Gingergread ROMs?
And now here's the second part where I feel even stupidier: doesn't the kernel reside on the ROM/OS part of Android? Why would the kernel, which comes AFTER the bootloader, affect the boot of the Android? Wouldn't it just screw my phone, but wouldn't it still give me the chance of flashing another ROM?
Thanks for the help.

marcelo.ellmann said:
Okay. Lesson learned, trust me.
Now here's the part where I feel very stupid: what's a GB kernel? Why is that a requirement for ICS ROMs? Was it not for Gingergread ROMs?
And now here's the second part where I feel even stupidier: doesn't the kernel reside on the ROM/OS part of Android? Why would the kernel, which comes AFTER the bootloader, affect the boot of the Android? Wouldn't it just screw my phone, but wouldn't it still give me the chance of flashing another ROM?
Thanks for the help.
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Because of an eMMC brick bug!
Anyways to round up, my way of flashing ROMS is flashing a GB Kernel called Abyss 4.2 and then reboot recovery, from then I wipe everything then flash any custom ICS Roms. I've had my Note for almost a week now and found no problems in flashing! But it did take me 2hrs to root doing heavy research but it paid off!
The guide I followed is from here take a few moments to read and understand then you will have no troubles in rooting/flashing again!

hing98 said:
Because ICS has not been officially released on the Galaxy Notes therefore we use a GB Kernel or ROM before we flash any custom ICS ROM.
Yes it was confusing at the start but to avoid bricking you must alwaysfollow the guides given by the Developer!
Anyways to round up, my way of flashing ROMS is flashing a GB Kernel called Abyss 4.2 and then reboot recovery, from then I wipe everything then flash any custom ICS Roms. I've had my Note for almost a week now and found no problems in flashing! But it did take me 2hrs to root doing heavy research but it paid off!
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You may want to recheck your facts....ICS has actually been officially released in many countries......
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

stoney73 said:
You may want to recheck your facts....ICS has actually been officially released in many countries......
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Sorry was reading from another guide. Your right
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hing98 said:
Sorry was reading from another guide. Your right
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Anyways its a bug that bricks your device,
you can find more information here
Cheers

I had a galaxy S where flashing process was different Wen u flash CM9 roms and if you want to get back to GB roms only way out was PC Odin and moreover you can wipe on ICS roms and install other roms. But wen i got the note the procedure was slightly different Brickin problems and moreover wen you are in ICS you can get back to GB with GB kernel only no need for PC odin. Just keep a copy of Abyss kernel 4.2 in your sd card and be sure to flash it when changing roms.....

Doesn't Franco rev3+ solve the brick bug?
Hi all,
since you're saying we have *always* to flash a GB kernel before having a factory reset, are you talking about those having the CF/Stock kernel?
I'll make it clear: as far as I know, Franco made a kernel that should avoid the brickage since its 3rd version (thread here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491428). Who installed this kernel could just wipe from ICS and install any ICS ROM. Am I wrong? If so, please explain the whys.

UNBRICKED!
I too bricked my phone but after reading this guide (ABD wouldn't recognise my device so I couldn't follow it) I understood the partitions had become messed up.
I read somewhere about the PIT files.
I ODINed the ABYSS Kernal and PIT (Q1_20110914_16GB-patched) for my 16gb n7000 ticked the repartition box. It booted into CWM recovery and I used the restore and bingo.

Urgent - Only professionals answer please!

Before you start reading, please make sure, you are 100% sure of ur answers, and that you have TIME to answer them ALL with clarification
Really thanks for ur time and help!
So i got a samsung galaxy ace, it's rooted and with b84 CF-Root kernel.
1) The thing is sometimes, I press Wi-Fi button or Bluetooth, and in the Wifi it says Error and on bluetooth just won't conect. I don't know what the problem is, and the only solution is to reboot the phone. Is this a problem? Can it be fixed? If It can, how? If not, please read point number 2.
2) If its not fixable, what ROM you advice me to reinstall? I have s5830XWKS2, some people say the DDxxx8(or something like that) is better don't know why I'm no programmer...
2.1) If I really have to have to reinstall it in order to fix it, how can I do it? Can you point out the thread for it?
3) I run a small business, and I use Tasker for all my stuff. together with other 60+ apps I need to keep, i'm using SD card with ext partition with Link2SD. And the thing i'm most afraid of, is loosing all the data. I came from a Nokia 5800XM, and I flashed it some times, backups are easy to do. Now here on Android becomes a bit complicated. Maybe never someone cleared me enough about it. So what can I do to sucessfully restore all data on the new ROM? I got Titanium backups, and CWM..Will that backup even my dictionary saved words?
4) Thanks, and please, again, make notice that I can't loose anything due to my business, but I can't work with phone needing to reboot at random times cause of wifi or bluetooh beeing bricked.

First of all. There is no such things as urgent situation here. You should remember that.
Second thing. You should post questions in Q&A sub-section. General is for sharing and discussions.
Third thing. There is a adb logcat thingie, which allows to understand a root of your problem more than 'Help me. Something doesn't work'
I remain this thread open but move to correct section.

NunoPitbull said:
Before you start reading, please make sure, you are 100% sure of ur answers, and that you have TIME to answer them ALL with clarification
Really thanks for ur time and help!
So i got a samsung galaxy ace, it's rooted and with b84 CF-Root kernel.
1) The thing is sometimes, I press Wi-Fi button or Bluetooth, and in the Wifi it says Error and on bluetooth just won't conect. I don't know what the problem is, and the only solution is to reboot the phone. Is this a problem? Can it be fixed? If It can, how? If not, please read point number 2.
2) If its not fixable, what ROM you advice me to reinstall? I have s5830XWKS2, some people say the DDxxx8(or something like that) is better don't know why I'm no programmer...
2.1) If I really have to have to reinstall it in order to fix it, how can I do it? Can you point out the thread for it?
3) I run a small business, and I use Tasker for all my stuff. together with other 60+ apps I need to keep, i'm using SD card with ext partition with Link2SD. And the thing i'm most afraid of, is loosing all the data. I came from a Nokia 5800XM, and I flashed it some times, backups are easy to do. Now here on Android becomes a bit complicated. Maybe never someone cleared me enough about it. So what can I do to sucessfully restore all data on the new ROM? I got Titanium backups, and CWM..Will that backup even my dictionary saved words?
4) Thanks, and please, again, make notice that I can't loose anything due to my business, but I can't work with phone needing to reboot at random times cause of wifi or bluetooh beeing bricked.
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Yes I experienced the same problem,could be software bugs problem so I think you can reinstall your software for the better.
I prefer cm mod7/8 for ace as it is much faster so you can try Google cyanogenmod for ace. They have all the tutorial you need.
As for your Apps, titanium backup will do fine. Its the best backup so far. Your dictionary words is the default system one? I recommend you smart keyboard pro as it has the function to backup all your words
So in short, backup your EVERYTHING with titanium backup, rmb your contacts too, and install cyannogen mod 7 or 8 whichever you prefer! Hope this helps!
Sent from my LG-P705 using xda premium

spaz1201 said:
Yes I experienced the same problem,could be software bugs problem so I think you can reinstall your software for the better.
I prefer cm mod7/8 for ace as it is much faster so you can try Google cyanogenmod for ace. They have all the tutorial you need.
As for your Apps, titanium backup will do fine. Its the best backup so far. Your dictionary words is the default system one? I recommend you smart keyboard pro as it has the function to backup all your words
So in short, backup your EVERYTHING with titanium backup, rmb your contacts too, and install cyannogen mod 7 or 8 whichever you prefer! Hope this helps!
Sent from my LG-P705 using xda premium
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There's no such thing as cyanogen mod 8...only unofficial cm 7.1 kang and official cm 7.2...
Nunopitbull, wifi & bluetooth problems that you experience are caused by the kernel, not the firmware or rom...so my suggestion is to use a kernel that is not based on cf root or use a stock kernel (the one that came with your phone)...just root your phone with the update zip method will do, and for cwm flash the zip for it...the newest version for sga is 5.0.2.6...there's no need to flash a custom kernel...
About cwm backups, it backups your whole system and data partition and also your boot.img (kernel related)...so yes, it is quite safe to say that your whole phone is backup-ed...but keep in mind that stock roms use .rfs format for the partitions...new custom roms use .ext4 format...so to flash a backup of a stock rom, first flash a fresh stock firmware with ODIN and the cooper.pit file...then re-root and re-flash cwm to restore your phone...
And fyi, link2sd uses a second partition right? The apps inside the second partition can be relinked if you reset the phone...as long as you don't format the second partition...but personally I suggest you to use DTa2sd or amarulzz script as it saves more internal space...check it out...
Hope that all the above helps...

So you're saying my problem of wi-fi/bluetooth is because of kernel? Can you help me by PM how to get it working again? I wanted a custom kernel don't remember already why, but I think was for the custom speeds of CPU, so I could have low ones..
Just want this bug to disapear of bluetooth and wifi!
Ryuinferno said:
There's no such thing as cyanogen mod 8...only unofficial cm 7.1 kang and official cm 7.2...
Nunopitbull, wifi & bluetooth problems that you experience are caused by the kernel, not the firmware or rom...so my suggestion is to use a kernel that is not based on cf root or use a stock kernel (the one that came with your phone)...just root your phone with the update zip method will do, and for cwm flash the zip for it...the newest version for sga is 5.0.2.6...there's no need to flash a custom kernel...
About cwm backups, it backups your whole system and data partition and also your boot.img (kernel related)...so yes, it is quite safe to say that your whole phone is backup-ed...but keep in mind that stock roms use .rfs format for the partitions...new custom roms use .ext4 format...so to flash a backup of a stock rom, first flash a fresh stock firmware with ODIN and the cooper.pit file...then re-root and re-flash cwm to restore your phone...
And fyi, link2sd uses a second partition right? The apps inside the second partition can be relinked if you reset the phone...as long as you don't format the second partition...but personally I suggest you to use DTa2sd or amarulzz script as it saves more internal space...check it out...
Hope that all the above helps...
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So far I haven't seen a custom kernel for sga that works flawlessly...especially the ones with oc function...only stock kernels work with the least problems...since you want to underclock, just use the stock kernel and set it to the lowest value with an app like set cpu...it shall do you fine...

Ryuinferno said:
So far I haven't seen a custom kernel for sga that works flawlessly...especially the ones with oc function...only stock kernels work with the least problems...since you want to underclock, just use the stock kernel and set it to the lowest value with an app like set cpu...it shall do you fine...
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What are the other advntages with the CF Root kernel? I can't remmeber why I puted it, but I think they were another reason behind it...
Where I can get teh stock kernel? Or which one you advise?

Chill please...don't shoot questions in here...if you want quick answers, please search about it (e.g. go to the cf-root thread and read about the features, I don't memorise them, but I believe you want the overclock and a2sd features)...If you want direct answers, you will have to wait...
I understand that you need your phone for your business, it's very important to you...I'm trying my best to help out here ok? To get a stock kernel, just flash a stock firmware via ODIN...but you will have to re-root and re-flash cwm...any stock kernel will do, as long as it is with the firmware you flashed...

Ryuinferno said:
Chill please...don't shoot questions in here...if you want quick answers, please search about it (e.g. go to the cf-root thread and read about the features, I don't memorise them, but I believe you want the overclock and a2sd features)...If you want direct answers, you will have to wait...
I understand that you need your phone for your business, it's very important to you...I'm trying my best to help out here ok? To get a stock kernel, just flash a stock firmware via ODIN...but you will have to re-root and re-flash cwm...any stock kernel will do, as long as it is with the firmware you flashed...
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Chill what? I'm not in a hurry for answers You answer when you can. I jsut reply when I can, if it was fast, I didn't noticed
I remember to put this kernel i did something from CWM reboot, your saying i need to reinstall a full ROM to get the stock kernel?:S And what's ODIN
Reply when u can, im in no hurry ;D

NunoPitbull said:
Chill what? I'm not in a hurry for answers You answer when you can. I jsut reply when I can, if it was fast, I didn't noticed
I remember to put this kernel i did something from CWM reboot, your saying i need to reinstall a full ROM to get the stock kernel?:S And what's ODIN
Reply when u can, im in no hurry ;D
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Yea...a full stock samsung rom..you might wanna look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12874680

Is your Samsung Galaxy Ace a GT-S5830 or a GT-S5830i ??
Sent from my GT-S5830i using xda app-developers app

If you want only professionals to answer your questions, take your phone to the Samsung Engineers....
Sent from my GT-S5830 using Tapatalk 2

NunoPitbull said:
Before you start reading, please make sure, you are 100% sure of ur answers, and that you have TIME to answer them ALL with clarification
Really thanks for ur time and help!
So i got a samsung galaxy ace, it's rooted and with b84 CF-Root kernel.
1) The thing is sometimes, I press Wi-Fi button or Bluetooth, and in the Wifi it says Error and on bluetooth just won't conect. I don't know what the problem is, and the only solution is to reboot the phone. Is this a problem? Can it be fixed? If It can, how? If not, please read point number 2.
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Try flashing a new kernel, this is NOT a rom issue, just a kernel issue.

I just cannot do a nandroid backup - help pls

Am on criskelo 11.2 with speedmod kernel 3.13.
All is fine, it appears I have root (titanium etc works) and a check with 'got root' returns an ok response.
The phone is behaving itself nicely and is nice and smooth.
The problem comes when I try and do a nandroid backup using cwm.
It gets a liitle way in and then freezes (forever!)
Things I've tried to cure this...
1) Rolling back to stock GB and then re-rooting, then full 3 wipes, then reinstall criskelo rom.
2) Rolling back to a pre-rooted GB rom, then all 3 wipes, then re-install croskelo
2) Flashing other kernels, notecore etc
3) Installing superuser 3.1.1.zip with cwm and its binary update.zip
4) Installing SuperSU app from play store - it says needs to update binaries, and when I try it just says 'installation failed!'
5) Installing superuser app from play, this time when I try and update binaries it does helpfully say ' remounting /system as rw... fail!'
which leads me to believe this is a root problem, even though no other app is complaining.
6) doing a search on this forum (before you all tell me to do this!)
I have been trying to solve this for over a week now, and it feels like I have read everything on this forum but I may have missed something.
Can anybody steer me in the right direction please?

Maybe you dont need a nandroid backup, it doesnt backup efs anyway.
Could be a kernel issue, or space issue. Not sure.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

baz77 said:
Maybe you dont need a nandroid backup, it doesnt backup efs anyway.
Could be a kernel issue, or space issue. Not sure.
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Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?

jonnybruce said:
Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?
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Have you tried updating cwm? I believe older versions had this problem.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

SpyderTracks said:
Have you tried updating cwm? I believe older versions had this problem.
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No I haven't Spyder, although I have tried a few different roms whic all have differing versions of cwm right?
which one is the latest then, and how do I install it, would it be an update zip?

jonnybruce said:
Cheers, you might be right, but I have always used nandroid before flashing a new rom,
may I ask what you use to backup then, when you change rom?
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I am a heavy flasher and prevent issues caused by restores to get a clean taste of roms. Nandroids I tried, but I havent found a rom I wanted to go back on always, flash so much that it just takes to long.
Efs with a tool in one if my threads, suggestion by Chasmodo. DrKetan has a good toolbox thread in general section.
I manually backup photos and such with a file explorer. Calander/Contacts/email in gmail,
whatsapp and special app stuff also manually transfer folder from sdcard and back.
Messages I dont care for. Neither made calls list.
Occasionally I do restore app if dissapeared from market with Titanium, but only app, not data. I save backups on external. Cause I clean sdcard also.
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jonnybruce said:
No I haven't Spyder, although I have tried a few different roms whic all have differing versions of cwm right?
which one is the latest then, and how do I install it, would it be an update zip?
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The latest version for Note N7K is 6.0.1.2.. chek the below link... download option is there
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/

jonny, i feel your problem is due to partial root.
could you copy files into system in root explorer ?
did adaway work in applying hosts file ?
for criskelo rom too you should choose CF root kernel during the flashing process, then later you may change to your preference

Thanks baz & nokia, much appreciated.
I am running PA 1.99 now and it has the new cwm (you can tell because it has a grey background now!)
And rraaka, you are correct, I cannot copy anything to system
Not sure how I can get full root back though, I have used Dr Ketans rooting tool many times to try and cure this issue as well as flashing pre-rooted GB roms with Odin.
Not sure what else I can do.
But am starting to agree with baz now, I can do without nandroid (it takes ages anyway) and just use titanium to restore.
Everything is working fine with my partial root (except nandroid) anyway so not sure I care anymore!
Am enjoying Paranoid Android by the way, JB is fun.
I do miss the samsung apps though, I don't suppose those have been jellybeaned yet??

nope not yet, nothing Touchwizz like spen etc.
There is a cwm flashable of samsung apps that works pretty good on cm9, not sure if it works on cm10 or jb.
gaining full root shouldnt be to difficult, update binaries and then you know for sure.
The one that has worked wel for me is the ssu only zip from this post but then again thats on stock stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841288
For custom roms/kernels the ones supplied with it are build in to work out of the box.
Once fully clean install, a nandroid can work but thats fully clean
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Thanks baz, am going to go back to the start (stock ICS) and try that link to try and get my full root back, looks interesting.

Ok, I have full root again now!
here's what I think I remember what I did...
Downloaded the first two Su & busybox zips using method1 on the link that Baz kindly shared with me and popped them on my sd card ready.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
Downloaded and flashed the latest UK Carphone Warehouse stock ICS rom with odin.
Rebooted to stock recovery - applied update zip - flashed first the SU and then Busybox zips downloaded earlier.
Rebooted phone to check all was ok.
Located superSU app and ran it to check - and first it said it didn't recognise my phone model, hmmm...
So I downloaded mobile odin from play and flashed abyss 4.2 kernel
Rebooted to recovery, full 3 wipes and rebooted system.
Ran superSU again and magically it updated binaries and for the first time in 2 weeks it said 'sucessful', I was very pleased!
Rebooted to recovery and flashed Criskelo 11.2 again (have gone back to this from PA until things are a bit more stable)
Restored all my apps from TB all good.
Checked Adaway and it was more than happy to replace host file, and root explorer is also happy.
Cool

Updating a Galaxy note (bought secondhand)

Bought a second hand Note. It's rooted as CWM on it. It won't update OTA (no updates showing at all for the past couple of days), and it's on 2.3.6.
Can I manually install an update via Odin? If so which one?
Direct links would help, I'm a bit of a noob
U.K Note btw

JccageX2 said:
Bought a second hand Note. It's rooted as CWM on it. It won't update OTA (no updates showing at all for the past couple of days), and it's on 2.3.6.
Can I manually install an update via Odin? If so which one?
Direct links would help, I'm a bit of a noob
U.K Note btw
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Being a 'noob' isn't an excuse for not looking. Go to the stock ROM sticky thread and try actually looking next time.
It's always so much harder when you have to try (David Gray).

JccageX2 said:
Bought a second hand Note. It's rooted as CWM on it. It won't update OTA (no updates showing at all for the past couple of days), and it's on 2.3.6.
Can I manually install an update via Odin? If so which one?
Direct links would help, I'm a bit of a noob
U.K Note btw
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instruction sent
check your PM

AndroidSlave said:
Being a 'noob' isn't an excuse for not looking. Go to the stock ROM sticky thread and try actually looking next time.
It's always so much harder when you have to try (David Gray).
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Typical "Omfg do it yourself guy". Here's an idea, stop being such an ass, I evidently looked as I know what Odin is, I wanted to be sure from a member who knows what he's doing just in case I did something wrong. Imbecile.
Thank you Comscier, downloading all the stuff now

JccageX2 said:
Typical "Omfg do it yourself guy". Here's an idea, stop being such an ass, I evidently looked as I know what Odin is, I wanted to be sure from a member who knows what he's doing just in case I did something wrong. Imbecile.
Thank you Comscier, downloading all the stuff now
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No here's a better idea - stop being a lazy
If you want someone to do it all for you, there are websites you can pay to root your phone. XDA is NOT that place.
There are threads already for this but you are just to lazy to lift two fingers to look
So you call me an ass? Okay buddy I'm an ass because your too lazy to read the guide that someone spent hours making that is at the very top of the forum as a sticky note in capital letters.
And yet with 152 posts you still refuse to just look at the guides that are step by step instructions because you expect to be spoon fed
Let's look at your other threads "which rom is best" "how to root my desire" and so on
Its not like you even try to look. You just over and over break xda policy and are lazy. Get with the picture and follow the rules
No reason to call me an ass, I am actually a very useful and helpful person to many people on this website. But everyone is expected to at least TRY to look before posting, which you consistently refuse to do (as your previous threads for other devices proves)

AndroidSlave said:
No here's a better idea - stop being a lazy
If you want someone to do it all for you, there are websites you can pay to root your phone. XDA is NOT that place.
There are threads already for this but you are just to lazy to lift two fingers to look
So you call me an ass? Okay buddy I'm an ass because your too lazy to read the guide that someone spent hours making that is at the very top of the forum as a sticky note in capital letters.
And yet with 152 posts you still refuse to just look at the guides that are step by step instructions because you expect to be spoon fed
Let's look at your other threads "which rom is best" "how to root my desire" and so on
Its not like you even try to look. You just over and over break xda policy and are lazy. Get with the picture and follow the rules
No reason to call me an ass, I am actually a very useful and helpful person to many people on this website. But everyone is expected to at least TRY to look before posting, which you consistently refuse to do (as your previous threads for other devices proves)
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Never said you weren't a useful guy. However you for some reason insist I didn;t look beforehand. I made a thread to make sure I didn't mess up my phone, I didn't know if I could flash stock firmware over a root + recovery or not.
So before you attack members in their first post with a new phone, I'd suggest you'd think twice.
I appreciate your work. Bye.

JccageX2 said:
Never said you weren't a useful guy. However you for some reason insist I didn;t look beforehand. I made a thread to make sure I didn't mess up my phone, I didn't know if I could flash stock firmware over a root + recovery or not.
So before you attack members in their first post with a new phone, I'd suggest you'd think twice.
I appreciate your work. Bye.
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My only thing I want to say is next time say what you read. Otherwise it looks like you have done nothing and are just posting out of laziness. There was no way I could have known you did any due diligence with your post aside from a mention of Odin.
I am going to link you to a very detailed post I wrote about upgrading from gingerbread. This post I wrote will guide you.
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Here is my post from the philz thread. Let Mr know if u have questions. Please also be SURE to read the brickbug sticky thread
TO ANYONE READING THIS POST - NOTE THAT THIS IS ALL SPECIFIC TO UOGRADING FROM GINGERBREAD ONLY
@onetonnoodle Honestly, if you like the features of Sweet Rom, it is an Amazing rom (maybe the best?), but I personally (when I use touchwizz interface) prefer a stock interface, which is why I like @ThaiDai's stock-deodexed LT9. If you were thinking of sweet rom, just go with it. It really is spectacular and constantly updated. Just be aware you may issue a couple bugs here and there because it is in constant development, but they always get fixed right away.
Regarding hardbricking, as long as your only doing wipes while PhilZ kernel is installed, you are safe. Remember anytime a new rom is flashed it overwrites the kernel with whatever is packaged with that rom. Also any gingerbread kernel philz or not are safe. Be very careful if on an ICS ROM though.
There are 3 ways that I would do it. Obviously, there are about 100 ways to do this. These are the methods I may use
IF ITS GINGERBREAD COMPATIBLE (I dont remember), the Mobile Odin Pro method is by far the easiest way
Here is one Method (easier, but only if u have pc odin setup):
1. Flash Sweetrom via PC odin
2. it wont boot because of all your old gingerbread data. After turning it on, immediately boot to recovery. Do a factory reset, or if you want a completely clean install do a full wipe and then reflash sweetrom again via recovery.
3. reboot to system
4. YOU WILL HAVE A YELLOW TRIANGLE. Use Triangle Away from XDA (its free) to remove that, but this does have a risk.
Mobile Odin Method this would be my first choice so long as your GB rom is rooted
I think mobile odin is compatible with gingerbread. You will have to download sweet rom to your phone.
If it is, you can use mobile odin to flash the sweetrom zip, you are already on gingerbread so you are brickbug safe...
If mobile odin is gingerbread compatible, which i believe it is, this is really a simple method.
Obviously your gingerbread ROM has to be rooted if you want to do this.
NOTE: you will get issues because mobile odin doesnt really do a full wipe. if hte issues do arise you can reboot to recovery included with sweet rom and just do a factory reset and you will be fine.
Here is yet another method to update:
1. Open the browser ON YOUR PHONE. *(a) Download SweetRom to the sdcard (internal or external); (b) Download the newest LT9 Philz kernel to your sdcard also.
* **Note: if you have issues getting the download to complete, try opera mini browser because it supports resume downloads.
2. [OPTIONAL STEP, not required] Flash Abyss 4.2 kernel, and do a full nandroid backup in recovery... * I personally would skip this step. *I dont even know if you could find abyss anymore, but I am making an option for you to get a nandroid backup of your gingerbread rom that will boot... *really though, dont waste your time on this unless you want to assure you have a full backup of gingerbread with a gingerbread kernel
3. *Unfortunately, you can't flash philz directly from your 3e recovery (because you are on gingerbread)... it will give a signature verification error. *so you can either flash it via PC odin, or do an OTA upgrade and then flash it (be careful, once you do this you are not brickbug safe).
4. Flash PhilZ LT9 Kernel from either Abyss if you did step 2 (optional), from your stock android recovery if you can put it on your external sd card *only if you did an OTA update , or via PC Odin if you dont have an external SD Card. *Be sure to follow the philz flashing instructions step by step.
5. NOW YOUR PHONE WILL NOT BOOT. dont be alarmed, you only want to go to recovery. *You will have no issue getting into recovery as long as philz flashed properly. *Your phone now has a JB kernel with a GB system, this is why it won't boot.
6. boot recovery (power - volume up - home held until you get to philz touch interface)
7. Go to factory reset, and choose the wipe all option (this wipes /system /data /cache /preload and .android_secure). *Your phone now has no system, but will retain the philz kernel and touch recovery.
8. no need to reboot recovery. *Just go to flash the Sweet ROM Zip. *let it run.*
9. reboot to system
10. Done. *it will already include the kernel.
If you are confused about any step, dont even start the process. ask first.
And be aware, there is always a risk doing this. It won't brick your phone, but you may softbrick it and lose recovery if something goes wrong. The solution for this is to use PC Odin and flash a ROM via PC Odin.

Thanks.