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How do u know you are connected to interet?

Could be stupid to ask this but have been wondering since i got it
So far 2 charges down and battery life is not too great. I have emails set to manually receive.
How do we know that we are connected to internet. Like in Win 6.5 it would dial and then the icon would change. what happens here?
I go to people ad when i go to FB the dots on top of screen come showing its retreivving something. But what after that?
when i come on home screen how do i know internet is d/c?

- On Wi-Fi, you'll see a Wi-Fi indicator on at the top of the screen.
- On network data, you'll see 3G or E (or whichever data protocol is active) at the top of the screen.
In both cases, if you don't see any of the status indicators at the top of the screen, just tap the very top and all your status indicators will appear. If you still don't see any indicator, then you aren't connect to any Internet sources.
The little loading dots that appear to fly across the screen can either mean data is being loaded, or some type of loading is occurring. Its not entirely clear which at times.

Just to clarify.
The "E" is always there on my indicator. Does it mean that its avialable or it means that i am connected to the service and something in the baground is eating/using the data?

Yes, if the E is there, it means there's a connection -- it doesn't necessarily mean that anything's using the data. You can completely turn data off via settings->mobile network. If you're having battery issues, you could try that while you're not using it for data.

Thanx ...I missed that setting..
yes that E has gone and now i will see the battery longitivity as a test.
Thank You

Test result : )
The battery lie with out the E (i.e connected to the data service) was super.
I am in 24hrs and the battery shows a little more than half on the indicator.
Usage: couple of pictures, maybe 30 min talk time, exchange of emails on wifi, and some music maybe 20 min

santoshrane said:
Test result : )
The battery lie with out the E (i.e connected to the data service) was super.
I am in 24hrs and the battery shows a little more than half on the indicator.
Usage: couple of pictures, maybe 30 min talk time, exchange of emails on wifi, and some music maybe 20 min
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Wow, that's fantastic news. So you're just accessing the internet when in WiFi range?
I was a bit worried about the poor battery life but now it doesn't seem to be so bad.
I guess with WP7's cloud integration, it just taxes the battery too much.

I had terrible battery life - an app to diagnose what might be the issue would be neat. Turned out I had push updates activated for my oultook account, which I only use for contacts.
Had visions of the phone yelling "HELLO - DOES ANYONE WANT TO BE MY FRIEND?" constantly.
Overnight, I lost about 5% of the battery. Actually, that's another thing I'd like - a % display on the battery meter!

What i am doing is using wifi when needed. and disable the E (data).
The battery life really stays for long...
but bottom line - its a small battery with a big screen, so cant expect much

It has to be something else, maybe network conditions, or a rogue application, or the brightness on your phone.
I have both my Hotmail and Gmail accounts set on "as items arrive" (push) and my phone lasts a very long time. Brightness is set to automatic. Lots of web browsing, lots of texting, limited phone calls. Really, my battery is awesome and it amazes me.

I have my HD7 and its been charged just 4 times. they say it takes a lil time for battery to catch up..
how many charges have u done?

santoshrane said:
I have my HD7 and its been charged just 4 times. they say it takes a lil time for battery to catch up..
how many charges have u done?
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I've had my phone since Saturday, so about 4 full charges as well. It does take time for the battery to catch up, and each battery is different. A good measure would be to give it about a whole week of use/charging. That should break the battery in.

if the phone is connected via wifi this means that the data connection is off? or
that they both connected?

ran_k said:
if the phone is connected via wifi this means that the data connection is off? or
that they both connected?
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Indicators are at the top of the screen. If it says 3G, G or E, then you are connected to your mobile provider's network. If the Wi-Fi indicator is on, then you are connected to that. If they are both on, you are connected to both, but by default, Windows Phone 7 will attempt to use your Wi-Fi connection first, and then fall back to your mobile connection if Wi-Fi fails.

Wifi cuts out after standby

Every time I put the Nook Color in standby, it loses my wireless. Upon taking it out of standby, it doesn't reconnect automatically- i am forced to actually go into settings- wireless before it finds my wireless network.
I have installed Spare Parts and set the Wifi sleep policy to never, but it still doesn't automatically connect to my wifi network. Even if I turn off my wireless and turn it back on via the widget I have on my desktop, it won't connect. I am forced to enter into Settings- wireless every time.
Thanks in advance.

bumping once- seriously nobody else has this problem?

Yes I have this problem too but don't know how to fix it. I just turn wireless off then back on.

No issues here at all, reconnected within seconds. Rarely do I even notice it was disconnected at all.

Are still on the 1.0.0 firmware? I had this issue, but since updating to 1.0.1 (which stated it improved wifi) I haven't had this issue.

Yeah, I see this too. I saw there was a hack somewhere to make it persistent. But that would certainly drain your battery more. It didnt bother me all that much, but if you need it for Gmail/texting/Google Talk, I could see why you would want it to be persistent for notifications. Didnt bother me, since I have a phone too.

By any chance did you install the wpa_supplicant to enable use of adhoc networks? I've only had the issue since I did that. More info below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868354

Gabryael said:
By any chance did you install the wpa_supplicant to enable use of adhoc networks? I've only had the issue since I did that. More info below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868354
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Same here mine only does it since the install, but I knew that going into it as well.

I always had that issue, before the adhoc fix and after. Learned to livevwith it. Haven't upgraded yet... still on 1.0
Sent from my NookColor

Same exact thing is happening on mine. I have AutoNooter v1.01 currently and every time my device goes to sleep the wifi turns off, which hasn't been an issue until just recently.
In the past as soon as I would turn back on my device, the wifi would reconnect. Now I have to manually go to Settings> Wifi to get it to reconnect to the network.
I have tried the SpareParts fix, but it doesn't help. I have also tried on different wifi networks, but the connection issues still occur. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I also have the same problem, running auto-nooter. The only thing is that my signal never reconnects, I have to manually reset my internet router in order to get it back. Rebooting, or turning off Wi-Fi settings within the device doesn't help.
The only thing that works is never allowing my NC to fall asleep on it's own. If I manually put it into standby mode, it works fine.
I have the 1.0.1 update, and I called BN, but they only offered to replace it. I have it tricked out just the way I want it, so I'm just going to hold on to it for now.

CocoaGoddess said:
I also have the same problem, running auto-nooter. The only thing is that my signal never reconnects, I have to manually reset my internet router in order to get it back. Rebooting, or turning off Wi-Fi settings within the device doesn't help.
The only thing that works is never allowing my NC to fall asleep on it's own. If I manually put it into standby mode, it works fine.
I have the 1.0.1 update, and I called BN, but they only offered to replace it. I have it tricked out just the way I want it, so I'm just going to hold on to it for now.
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I had the same issue as well on 1.0.1.

I've found that the wifi doesn't turn off for me if it is plugged in and charging. I did enable wifi to never sleep w/ spare parts, but it still turns wifi off when it goes into standby when not charging.

My wifi stays connected with the screen off, but some times when I turn the screen back on the wifi disconnects. I know this happens because I am listening to Tune in radio and it does not disconnect until I turn my screen back on.
Sent from my Nook color using the XDA app.

hxxp://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Keep_wifi_alive_by_preventing_sleep_mode
This also explains why the wifi doesn't kick out when a music player is playing. I don't have enough posts yet to post a real link :/

aho43 said:
hxxp://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Keep_wifi_alive_by_preventing_sleep_mode
This also explains why the wifi doesn't kick out when a music player is playing. I don't have enough posts yet to post a real link :/
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Dang, I wish I would have found that app before I made and released my own.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/softlocker-free/otis8.softlocker

Mine does it.
I have to turn off then on.
This is only after the adhoc patch. I think I'm going back to infrastructure only.

I'm using wake timer:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/waketimer/schaze.waketimer
Same idea as SoftLocker but lets you also setup a timer where after a certain amount of time the system will actually sleep. Useful for night time or other extended periods of non use where you don't want to drain the battery.
Problem is that it does not activate on boot like SoftLocker and also after the timer expires and it goes into sleep, WakeTimer does not reactivate on wake.
Edit- after testing both programs I think SoftLocker is better. Running battery tests, there was not significant battery drain having SoftLocker on all the time. A few % overnight, probably related to the accumulation of e-mail, tweets, RSS downloads etc, but really minimal. Like that Soflocker can be checked to start on startup.
+1 for SmartLocker

This has happened for me as well. My remedy was to create a Tasker task where it's set up to connect to my SSID whenever it's detected.

colorado_al said:
I'm using wake timer:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/waketimer/schaze.waketimer
Same idea as SoftLocker but lets you also setup a timer where after a certain amount of time the system will actually sleep. Useful for night time or other extended periods of non use where you don't want to drain the battery.
Problem is that it does not activate on boot like SoftLocker and also after the timer expires and it goes into sleep, WakeTimer does not reactivate on wake.
Edit- after testing both programs I think SoftLocker is better. Running battery tests, there was not significant battery drain having SoftLocker on all the time. A few % overnight, probably related to the accumulation of e-mail, tweets, RSS downloads etc, but really minimal. Like that Soflocker can be checked to start on startup.
+1 for SmartLocker
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Well, I'm the SoftLocker dev...so...I'm listening.
I saw the waketimer option for a timer and liked the idea...perhaps a future update?

wow turning off data and WiFi really helps battery life

I've always had my data on in all my phones.. .I got fed up of the gnote's battery life so I decided to turn it off when I was not using it and God I was surprised, I watched a whole movie and played that train game and I lost only about 15 -20% of my juice.....
so today I turned off my data and WiFi before i went to sleep and when I woke up 6 hours later I had only lost 1%
that has never happened before...
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wifi has been known to be a great battery hogger on the note, interestingly enough it should be the other way around
as for the data, the phone works extra hard in lower signal areas to boost reception, hence drinking juice

I always disable wifi and data when I'm not using them.
I use the Go Power Master widget to switch between different profiles I have set up for wifi, mobile data, wifi with autosynch and no data.
There are other widgets that do the same thing. Just saves you having to toggle each setting separately.
If I stay connected with wifi, it's not too bad, but if I move out of a wifi area, and leave it on, it seems to drain battery faster (I'm guessing because it keeps rescanning for connections?).

I have somwhere describe this
Any way you will find this solutione better.
Use phoneweaver, you can describe the time, it will stop data at defned time, as well switch on too at your describe time. So if you set data off time just after your time to sleep, N switch on time just b4 your wake up time, you even need not to bother do do it manually
same way this can be triggered by location too, you can switch on/off data/wifi at perticular place.
And there are lot action you can set.
agree to rechlum if you are connected to wi-fi is consume less battery thn you are connected to net with 3G, N keep wifi open with connected to data is draining battery too fast.

could it all mean that I wasted a lot of time trying to reduce my battery consumption with WiFi on?
so far by disabling the unnecessary apps strartups (Autorun Manager) and turning off non-essential syncs I was able to get down to ca. 7mA (Battery Monitor Widget estimates) in standby mode, BUT only when WiFi is off.
When it's on, the power consumption stays at ca. 60mA in standby mode, which is something I cannot comprehed - using CyanogenMod on my previous device I was able to stay below 15mA regardless of WiFi state.

Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
checking email every 5mins
gmail syncing
facebook notifications
twiter syncing
Linkedin updates
ebay notification
3G data monitoring
weather updates every 30mins
Latitude monitoring
stocks updates
sports scores updates every 1min with your choice of espn, score mobile, fox sports...
bottom line is gotta use a smartphone as a smartphone. With data turned off notifications are not happening.

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Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
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If I know I'm not going to be looking at my phone for a while, it's not much use wasting battery having wifi or 3G turned on.
I'm a teacher, so I often have 3-4 hour blocks of time that I won't touch my phone.
I just turn wifi or data back on when I'm ready and my updates still come through when I'm ready to view them. Any updates that might have come through if I had left data enabled, I wouldn't have seen any earlier...
If I'm watching a movie I'll often switch off data because I know I won't be looking at my phone for 2 hours.
I don't see how conserving the battery is "stupid".
One could argue that leaving data enabled when you aren't in a position to use it is "stupid"...

Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?

WereCatf said:
Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?
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there's an option in Settings / WiFi Settings / Menu key to turn WiFi off when screen is off,
besides that there was one to do exactly what you need, but cannot remeber it's name, if you don't find anything satisfactory then try Lama - it has quite a large range of location-based triggers

Leaving wifi on when you're not using is awful. It completely prevents the phone from going to deep sleep.
I get awesome battery life simply by leaving wifi on only when the screen is on. My battery ranges from 18 hours to 1 day and 23 hours, depending on my use (temple run )

WereCatf said:
Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?
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Greenpower will do exactly that. You can set it up so it turns off wifi and 3G/data after a set amount of time after turning off the screen and turn it back on when the screen is turned on. You can have it sync once every n minutes/hours so you still get Whatsapp, emails and other stuff without having to turn on the screen.
It's working like a charm for me, before I used to lose 15 to 20% every night, now with the same usage I've only lost 30% in 67 hours.

just_visiting said:
Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
checking email every 5mins
gmail syncing
facebook notifications
twiter syncing
Linkedin updates
ebay notification
3G data monitoring
weather updates every 30mins
Latitude monitoring
stocks updates
sports scores updates every 1min with your choice of espn, score mobile, fox sports...
bottom line is gotta use a smartphone as a smartphone. With data turned off notifications are not happening.
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Everybody has different needs. If you need all this and to be aware of what i going on in your no-doubt busy social life, then you can do this.
On the other hand, it is utterly useless if you are not going to pick up the phone and see what the weather is (instead of looking out the window) and who is doing what on Facebook (or writing things in Facebook instead of actually doing things) as soon as it beeps at you. In those situations, turning of data will save battery with no loss of information.
Personally I love a 'pull' digital life, rather than a 'push' one. I have far too much to be getting on with to be constantly hassled.
Of course, in actually writing this, I am proving myself completely wrong, but what the hey?

I only care about my Google+ account and my e-mails, everything else matters only when I personally decide to check it. As such I've set my phone to turn data back on every 30 minutes, sync e-mails and Google+, and then turn data back off again.

I use Timeriffic (free from Market/Play) to disable Wifi/Data etc based on time of day.
I don't really care about emails when I'm sleeping!
A must have application IMO.

[Q] Whatsapp notification

Hi all
How are you guys manage to get whatsapp notification almost instantly when the screen is off ? I have no 3G (data plan) and the "always" option on WIFI shoould be a solution but it will drain battery. i f you chose "never" or "pluged in", then you wont receive notification until you unlock the screen.
if i put syncronization ON, on the device settings, will i get the whatsapp notification, since it will conect to wifi?

Install NoLed and you will have notification for email, SMS, Whatsapp,........even when the screen is off.

notification isnt exactly the problem. i want an app that makes wifi goes on and off in intervals, so it wouldnt drain battery with wifi ALWAYS on...

Try easy battery saver, i think it has a feature to turn on the wifi at intervals to sync data.
Sent from my (V10f Euro Open, Rooted, CWM-Installed, Deodex-ed, Camera-Moded V5) LG Optimus 4X HD P880.

profyler said:
so it wouldnt drain battery with wifi ALWAYS on...
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I use this solution (wifi never off in standby) and it doesn't affect battery much. Wifi goes to some kind of low-power standby mode but still connected, so it does not use really more enegry than often switching between 3G and wifi.
Or get a 3G data plan...

Evilandi666 said:
I use this solution (wifi never off in standby) and it doesn't affect battery much. Wifi goes to some kind of low-power standby mode but still connected, so it does not use really more enegry than often switching between 3G and wifi.
Or get a 3G data plan...
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Than i might have one problem with my phone because my batt drops 5% every hour when locked/sleep with just wifi on always on, but without syncing and stuff.
Does it drop less % then this to you?

Any APP to prevent deep sleep?

Hi!
Having troubles with a 520 because once it enters the deep sleep state, it'll start getting Whatsapp notifications only when waking it up.
No battery saving setting is turned on.
An APP that wakes the device from time to time would help.
Thanks.

Perhaps you either have cellular data turned off, have no data signal, or are set to only receive notifications over WiFi? By default, WP turns off WiFi when the screen is off and the phone isn't plugged in. I think there might be an option to change that, but I don't recall where it would be.
There are definitely apps that will cause WiFi to stay on in the background (I think pretty much any streaming music app does this?), but those will wreck the battery life if you just leave them on all day. Apps are also able to periodically (~every 30 minutes) do some stuff in the background even in the phone is sleeping, but I'm not sure if this is allowed to wake up the WiFi and cause it to connect.
If the problem isn't WiFi instead of cellular data, I really don't know what's going on.

Thanks! Read here if you're still interested:
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Lumia/Lumia-520-vs-Whatsapp-delays-delays-delays/td-p/2931533