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Is there anyway to FORCE the apps to use the MicroSD memory instead of the Internal storage?
It seems every app I've installed ( Dropbox, Google Docs, Evernote, etc) uses the internal memory. I have a 32GB MicroSD that seems to be useless right now. I tried moving all the apps to SD, but they still use the Internal Memory to store cache/files
I have yet to see a fix for this as well. The way I work around this is if the app saves files to the internal storage there is usually a setting in the settings menu that will allow you to change where it saves files. For instance with the TapeRecorder app. It automatically saves files to the sdcard (which Motorola stupidly named the internal storage for). I go to the settings and change the "sdcard" to "sdcard-ext", then it works!
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
Sorry this next generation android phone just like Droid X it has dedicated app memory. That memory is used strictly for those apps. U can put 500 apps and not run out of room. SD card is used for media music movies etc
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Groid said:
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
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Is this why When I selected "Move to Media Area" the application shortcut disappears from the "All Apps" menu?
I moved 2 games to the "Media Area" and now they are gone... they are still installed, but I have no way of accessing them. (I know they are still installed because when I went to reinstall, it said something about it replacing an app thats already install)
After researching more, and fumbling through the phone I discovered that Motorola has deemed the 8GB of Internal memory as an SDCard.
Another FAIL for Motorola, and I doubt there will ever be a fix for this. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Stated on the Motorola Forums:
Folks, it's the storage naming system in Android. If you go to any forum for any phone with internal and external memory you'll see the same complaints. There are multiple threads about it here.
Even though in Motorola's file manager you see "internal phone memory" and "SD Card", the internal memory is actually "sdcard" and the external is "sdcard-ext". Like I said, it's like this on every brand of phone with this set up.
So, what's happening is the apps are saving to the internal memory because it is, in fact, the SD card. Motorola has tried to remedy this confusion by discontinuing to say "move to SD" and instead now calls it "Move to Media area".
And no, your external SD is not useless. You can still set your photos from the camera to save directly to your external, you can still put music and movies and all kinds of media on your external and your phone will see them just fine. This is why there is a 16GB card included with your phone, so you can use it for media and if you want to move your apps off of the system memory to save space you move it to the 8GB internal area. Of course 8GB is still plenty of space for apps and other media as well
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EDIT: BFirebird101 stated this to, I don't know why, but when I was scrolling it passed over his post. Didn't mean to restate what he said.
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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Tornlogic said:
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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The Stock Music App seems to find the music files just fine on the MicroSD (just add some to try) and the Gallery Finds the Pictures. But I don't give a damn about Music or Pictures.
I have 123MB of the "Internal Memory" (SDCard) left - after I loaded all my work documents (spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc) & E-books. Right now I have to Move the file from the SDcard (InternalMemory) to the SDCard-Ext(MicroSD) after I've edit it and reuploaded it to Google Docs, then if I want to Edit it agian, I have to move it back to the SDCard(Internal Memory) Just so Google Docs will see it again.
Stock? That's okay, I'll pass. I froze those apps with TiBackup.
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i use videovault and when i pulled my video vault folder from my old backup and loaded it to the external SD, the VideoVault did not find them. There is no way i will load 4GB of videos into my Internal 8GB card just so i can haz my pronz!
What I noticed is this seems to be very similar to how the Xoom and Honeycomb handles sdcards and internal storage (minus the fact that we still cant write to sdcards on stock honeycomb....) so it could be Motorola setup the phone this way for a smoother migration to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out?
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
You would think with all the Smart/Nerdy People on this site, someone would come up with a way to Rename the partitions Motorola has setup.
If it was just possible to rename the "SDCard-Ext" To "SDCard" ...
The reason you have no issue is Asus did a hack mod to get the SD card to work. Moto did the same on European xooms but on USA version its a google product there fore moto has no control on software manipulation. As for apps to SD card there is no need the device has dedicated app storage stritctly for apps.
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If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
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i'm a little bit stress about G-cam, i never had samsung mobile and device with internal storage, my habits to makes mobile faster and smoother are rooting, format microsd 32gb class 10, partition into 3 partition (fat32, ext2, linux swap), link2sd, and all done.
But this G-cam has built internal storage, and my normal procedure for new mobile didn't work well, it's still lagging, sometimes hanging for 20seconds, and others thing like transfer Bluetooth, wifi-direct, installed apks and data still go to internal storage, not going to my external microsd.
what to do with this? i expect fast and smooth activity when multitasking, i mean G-cam is quadcore, exynos, and 1gb ram, but my previous sonyerricsson xpreia mini and neo are better than this in running.
ps: i read all the threads in G-cam section but it's look like already abandoned
please any solution would help, i don't have any mobile right now
update : i checked if link2sd scan and connect to internal memory, and it's seem not reading at all.
So i format (again) my memory card, part in into 3 partition, link it to link2sd. The result are no apps can be link to ext memory (all goes to internal memory), all apps folders not shown in internal memory or ext memory (i'm guessing it goes to 2nd partition;ext2) so i can't explore at all.
Then i open my backup at CWM, restore all like normal, BUT my gallery not showing any images, it seems CWM link every previous images/pics/videos in previous gallery to my ext memory and because i format my ext memory, all only folders with nothing i can open! everytime camera finish taking picture the review not working, and if i access gallery from camera, it goes "forced close". Situation getting worse by lens always rolling out everytime i open apks for editing pictures.
NICE combination: lag, hang, force closed.
i used my saving to buy this gadget, hoping xda-dev in the future can make this G-cam become a phone (how ever xda-devs are the one enabling call HTC flyer into phone, and after that so many other tablet), and got only its camera usefull.
NICE life: work, eat, playing (very slow) G-cam, then sleep.
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update 2nd:
now everytime i access playstore, the lens keep on rolling in and out, and the same thing happen if i browse online.
any help? please
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DON'T WORRY.
IT'S NOT A BIG PROBLEM.
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TEENAGERS said:
DON'T WORRY.
IT'S NOT A BIG PROBLEM.
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oooh it IT IS A BIG PROBLEM ...even opening xda-dev app now my lens keep on rolling in and out...
note: i found this thread which could be a solution for Gal-cam >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43146643
is it a scam? at the end someone really serious giving warning, TS not giving response.
But if it scam why MOD not deleting that post.
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Hi,
I'm trying to be patient and wait for the 32gb S5 to be available but:
Here's my question:
After you get your 16 gb S5, and then you install all your must have apps,
how much space is actually left on the internal storage????
This is assuming you put all your music,videos on a sd card.
Thanks, Ken
approximately, 9 GB left, yes all music,photos,video and some apps are on sdcard
You don't need 32. I have a crazy amount of apps, i use google music and i have tons of songs saved on my SD card. i have about 8.5 gigs still left on internal storage. see screenshot.
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available space is 9.11GB
With 50 apps installed, available space is 9.11GB.
Space taken by .thumbnails (302 MB) and whatsapp (271MB mostly pictures and videos)
My photos, video, music are on SD card.
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yoonus said:
With 50 apps installed, available space is 9.11GB.
Space taken by .thumbnails (302 MB) and whatsapp (271MB mostly pictures and videos)
My photos, video, music are on SD card.
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Hi,
And thanks for all your replies. On my S4 I have 2.62gb in apps and backup program I use.
So, doing the math, I can install everything on the 16 gb S5 and possibly have 7 plus gigs left.
I think that may work out well then!!!!
Ken
kenfb1 said:
Hi,
I'm trying to be patient and wait for the 32gb S5 to be available but:
Here's my question:
After you get your 16 gb S5, and then you install all your must have apps,
how much space is actually left on the internal storage????
This is assuming you put all your music,videos on a sd card.
Thanks, Ken
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I got about 8.4 go left and I have everything on my SD card and some of my apps. Before I moved my apps I had about 7.5 go left
TBH I was holding out for the GS5 32GB as well but finally caved as I didn't want to be stuck with the GN3 any longer. So far I installed my usual list of apps and I did move what apps I could and only the portion of the app that will transfer to the microSD card. My d/l of apps is usually about 1.5-1.8GB so after I moved the apps I have over 10GB left and I feel I can live with it.
That said IF Samsung doesn't start offering the GS in a 32GB version on the S6 and up I likely won't stay regardless of how much I like their hardware. For me you need MORE storage not less and the included bloatware was a joke. Oddly you could disable much more this time around compared to the GN3 including Flipboard but still I want more.
I use my S5 as my mobile media device and I have a 64gb external storage card cause my tab 3 doesn't support over 32gb. the fact that, one post said I don't need that much external memory is not a heavy user as others are.
My issue is that with os 4.4.x and later, they stopped allowing a user to write from device memory to external memory via apps. This sounds like an iphone setup to me. I have had all galaxy s series from the s2 to current s5 and to take that option to transfer from device memory to external storage memory via my apps is making me wonder about Android becoming more of an iPhone than an Android.
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i dunno, i've apps on my s5 that are happily maintaining data on the sd card i put in.
The default Camera among them.
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My issue is that with os 4.4.x and later, they stopped allowing a user to write from device memory to external memory via apps. This sounds like an iphone setup to me. I have had all galaxy s series from the s2 to current s5 and to take that option to transfer from device memory to external storage memory via my apps is making me wonder about Android becoming more of an iPhone than an Android.
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I second this complaint. Just another reason I want root.
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i dunno, i've apps on my s5 that are happily maintaining data on the sd card i put in.
The default Camera among them.
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@C0derbear.. my concern is the transferring of photos and videos from device folders to sd card folders using the prespective app for moving or copying on the S5
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'Prespective' app? I'll need to look that one up. Not familiar.
Do you mean 'perspective' by a54studio?
I thought by perspective apps, he meant apps like file explorers.
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I think Qwayke just made a typo. He meant to say *respective* apps.
Transferring using e included file manaher works fine to be sure. I do it all the time with pics downloaded from Web or FB.
Hi All, at the risk of being flamed with a crazy n00b question, I'm trying to figure out the best way to use the microSD card. Got 3 of these Kindle Fire's for Christmas for my 10, 8, and 5 yr old boys. The parental controls look fabulous for my needs for them, the obvious problem is the internal storage. I'm reading up as much as I can, realizing root is my saving grace (Thank you Tomsgt!!!!) for getting apps to move to the microSD card, I'm trying to figure out the best/easiest program to make this actually happen.
What are you all using? Any pre-requisites to make this happen (besides root)? Do I have to setup symbolic links, or is there a way to make this all automagic? Is there a way to make content automatically download to the SD card or do I just need to plan on managing this a little an app at a time to move after install?
I tried Link2SD, followed some guides I found, but the immediate problem I found was I wasn't able to copy anything onto the FAT32 partition when it's in the Fire and the Fire is in my computer. Maybe I need to just take the card out and copy content (movies and stuff) directly onto the card that way, but it just doesn't seem quite right.
Ultimately my goal is to get all apps (not system apps obviously) and content to the microSD card.
Thanks so much for your help to this n00b (typically an iPhone user, having a fun time trying to drink from a firehouse trying to live in both worlds)!!
I've been using Link2sd for a number of years. And I find it very helpful for the fire. 1st off you need to repartition the SD card. Set both partitions as primary. 2nd partition I set as a ext2. I have it setup to automatically move new apps to 2nd partition via settings.
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Thanks for responding back! I'm working to try to get link2sd working, but am running into an issue.
I've rooted, installed link2sd, rebooted, and when I launch the app I can choose whichever of the 2 I've created (44GB FAT32 and 20GB EXT2), in either case, after I choose that I'll see a screen that says: "Root Access Warning", "Link2SD could not obtain root access."
In an effort to try to 'start over', I've downloaded the latest firmware, re-installed, went through the basics, did root ONLY (no OTA blocks, nor ad bocks), and just tried re-installing Link2SD, but I'm getting the exact same behavior and unable to move apps.
Got any ideas or thoughts?
Thanks a ton!
Short Version:
I formatted ext2, but had to choose ext4 upon startup of link2sd.
Long Version:
I got it worked out. Stupid. When I formatted the SD card on my computer, I KNOW I told it to go ext2 because every guide I read said use 2 since it'd be better for stock ROMs. When launching link2sd every time I said use ext2 it would tell me it couldn't obtain root. I went and got the link2sd app from google play (I had previously only been using the one from the Amazon App store) and it's pretty obvious the one in the Amazon App store is out dated, or stripped down or something. When I launched the latest link2sd, I would get mount script errors. I then proceeded to just start trying other partitions, and when I chose ext4, BAM, looks like that's the ticket.
Hopefully this might help other poor unsuspecting souls.
Is LINK2SD the only way to do this ?
I'm running the resurrection-remix rom and wondered if there's something built in that I'm missing.
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Is LINK2SD the only way to do this ?
I'm running the resurrection-remix rom and wondered if there's something built in that I'm missing.
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I certainly can't say for sure, but, it definitely appears that this is truly the only app I can find that will actually allow you to move ALL aspects of an app to the SD Card. I've tried several others and all they end up allowing you to do is move the program itself, not the content. Which, for something like Knights Of The Old Republic, sucks 'cause the app's like 40 MB, and the content is 2GB. The kicker is that Link2SD is "free", but it's basically not functional until you purchase the license. I suppose they do this so you can first see if you can get it all to the point JUST BEFORE you can move content, because as I've found, there are several steps. Once you're ready to move, you're good to go, just need the license and you can proceed forward. I'm still in the middle of playing with it, but it appears that there are settings which will auto place EVERYTHING onto the SD card if installing from an online app store. Truly worth the 2 bucks and change to actually open up your SD card.
(on a side note, I totally understand one reason why this *could* be a bad thing to do, and that's only if your microSD card is slow. The internal memory on devices is likely as fast as you can get, but the budget microSD cards are definitely going to be slower. I seriously doubt it'll prevent an app from opening, all it means is that you just need to go into it with your eyes wide open that it might launch apps a little slower... which... for me I could care less 'cause these fires are for my 10, 8, and 5 year olds )
Just found foldermount on the playstore, sounds ideal, I'll report back here.
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Just found foldermount on the playstore, sounds ideal, I'll report back here.
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This app works a treat
I highly recommend paying the small price for the pro version to remove the limitations.
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link2sd isn't the only app that's severely out of date on the Amazon appstore. I find that to be very common.
Foldermount works well, but nothing beats the simplicity of link2sd. Most notably, sometimes on bootup Foldermount can take some time to do its thing, whereas link2sd links are usually immediately functional. I don't know what difficulty you had with the free version; I used it successfully for years (and supplemented it with Foldermount for two offline navigation apps whose data storage was particularly bad) before finally paying the $2.35 for the Plus version which basically just adds the ability to move an app's data as well as the app itself.
When you have a ton of apps on a slow SD card (regardless of link2sd vs. Foldermount etc) the whole system can get very slow and even unresponsive, far beyond a tolerable mere need to wait for an app to open. However, if that happens then you know what you need to do...uninstall some apps. I try to keep apps that run all the time on internal. That helps. And yeah, if you're using link2sd/Foldermount/etc then definitely don't cheap out on a slow card.
Using a Samsung Memory 64 GB Evo MicroSDXC UHS-I Grade 1 Class 10 Memory Card at the minute, hopefully good enough. Poor decision not to be able to store apps on an external card as standard tbh.
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I have an MS-N950U1, stock, running the latest update S2BQL2. Most apps cannot use/have access to SD Card. I tried enabling the "FORCE ALLOW APPS ON EXTERN....." under Developers Options - Please see photo attached, but still, apps have no access to SD Card.
Anyone knows if there is a write fix similar t the one that was available on the Note4/Kitkat?
don't think so, even if you did the app most likely would not work properly unless you knew how to optimise it yourself and it doesn't sound like you do
leave apps on internal memory and keep music/video/pictures on sd card (get a good one)
way less head ache
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don't think so, even if you did the app most likely would not work properly unless you knew how to optimise it yourself and it doesn't sound like you do
leave apps on internal memory and keep music/video/pictures on sd card (get a good one)
way less head ache
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This has nothing with app optimization. Apps give you the choice of storage location, the problem, external SD doesn't show up. Back in the days, there was a "write fix" to be flashed to give apps access to external storage under kit Kat, I think.
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This has nothing with app optimization. Apps give you the choice of storage location, the problem, external SD doesn't show up. Back in the days, there was a "write fix" to be flashed to give apps access to external storage under kit Kat, I think.
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I know it isn't exactly app optimisation but was trying to explain in an easy to understand way that it is not possible like the same way it was back in note 2 and 3 days
There is a way to do it but I haven't tried. Something along the lines of making your SD card "Adaptive Storage". Did some research on it a few months ago and it's honestly more trouble than it's worth. 64gbs isn't enough for some of the apps I would like to keep on my phone but I've managed to just keep it to the bare essentials.
Since Android 6.0, Google has tighten the 3rd party apps freedom or movement