Reading up on some daily news, I came across an article reviewing the new N7 hardware and the 4.2 update.
The reviewer soon found out that the 32gb unit was much snappier in booting and loading apps. So he put it to the test against an 8gb unit and the results are clear.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/googles-nexus-7-gets-a-fresh-coat-of-paint-for-the-holidays/
Much faster read and access times on the new 32gb units.
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Boot time.........................................................39.7 seconds.............28.5 seconds
Launching GLBenchmark Egypt HD test..............11.2 seconds...............8.8 seconds
Downloading and installing 27.4MB application.....22.5 seconds.............16.1 seconds
player911 said:
Reading up on some daily news, I came across an article reviewing the new N7 hardware and the 4.2 update.
The reviewer soon found out that the 32gb unit was much snappier in booting and loading apps. So he put it to the test against an 8gb unit and the results are clear.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/googles-nexus-7-gets-a-fresh-coat-of-paint-for-the-holidays/
Much faster read and access times on the new 32gb units.
TEST.............................................................8GB NEXUS 7..........32GB NEXUS 7
Boot time.........................................................39.7 seconds.............28.5 seconds
Launching GLBenchmark Egypt HD test..............11.2 seconds...............8.8 seconds
Downloading and installing 27.4MB application.....22.5 seconds.............16.1 seconds
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We, the first 8GB/16GB buyers, got stolen on this one.
I am not paying for a Nexus 10 after this.
So Asus aren't allowed to improve parts in later batches? That's ridiculous, it's likely that the better memory got cheaper and so was used, keeping the BOM the same with better performance. Just because they aren't Apple and don't make even a minor change a huge deal with a new version doesn't mean it's bad.
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We, the first 8GB/16GB buyers, got stolen on this one.
I am not paying for a Nexus 10 after this.
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Calm down. The 16gb was faster than the 8gb from the beginning. See: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6130/the-16gb-nexus-7-storage-performance for a rundown of the difference between 8gb vs 16gb.
Looking at the numbers, its tough to say whether there is even a difference between the 16gb vs the 32gb. Someone would need to test them the same way side by side to be sure.
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We, the first 8GB/16GB buyers, got stolen on this one.
I am not paying for a Nexus 10 after this.
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You didn't get "stolen", you got exactly what you paid for.
Higher capacity SSDs have always been faster. It's no surprise this is also true in tablets. The 16 GB version is also faster than the 8 GB.
Interesting, thanks.
The 16 GB version of the Nexus 7 has faster storage than the 8 GB, the Ars Technica figures are quite a bit lower than my 8GB, anyway I've never noticed a performance issue on my device.
Between the 32 GB & 16 GB I doubt there is much difference, in a previous thread I asked an early buyer of the 32 GB model to Androbench it against their 16 GB, the result was similar.
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You didn't get "stolen", you got exactly what you paid for.
Higher capacity SSDs have always been faster. It's no surprise this is also true in tablets. The 16 GB version is also faster than the 8 GB.
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Storage in current phones / tablets is not SSD but eMMC, both use NAND memory but there are major differences.
This is common practise with solid state storage, a 128gb SSD will be slower than a 256gb even though they're made my the same manufacturer. A 64gb version will be faster than the 32gb version. Nothing to get pissed about, just they way things worked.
Probably but seems the gains are pretty large. Regardless of the reason, I still found it fascinating that there are such big differences between the units sizes. Very good knowledge if you are on the fence about saving a few bucks on memory. No longer is the battle just whether you can survive with a set space but also picking a slower one.
Sell your 16 and buy a 32 and profit?
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Probably but seems the gains are pretty large. Regardless of the reason, I still found it fascinating that there are such big differences between the units sizes. Very good knowledge if you are on the fence about saving a few bucks on memory. No longer is the battle just whether you can survive with a set space but also picking a slower one.
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Reading the arstechnica article, is not clear if the WIFI 32GB version is faster as well. They only tested the 3G 32GB version. Do you think the WIFI version would have the same boost on nand?
There's also something humorous about people complaining about being "had" on a device with little to no profit margin.
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There's also something humorous about people complaining about being "had" on a device with little to no profit margin.
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Even funnier is I bet if you randomly picked 10 8GB owners and gave them a 32GB version 0 of them would notice any difference in speed.
The difference in speed is as close to being placebo as you can get without actually being placebo.
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Even funnier is I bet if you randomly picked 10 8GB owners and gave them a 32GB version 0 of them would notice any difference in speed.
The difference in speed is as close to being placebo as you can get without actually being placebo.
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Well. As an 8GB owner, I stumbled upon this thread while trying to figure out why my Nexus 7 felt so sluggish, so my gut feeling says that this may not be so placebo after all.
I bought the 8GB version on impulse due to a ridiculously good offer, so neither the slow and little RAM, or the fact that the left side of the screen almost seem to come unglued trouble me. But coming from the original Samsung Tab + the SGII phone, I must admit I'm a bit disappointed in the (lack of) speed and snappiness of the Nexus... Had expected more after two years. Ok, the resolutions is higher and the screen is nice, but that's it.
So my Ford Escort doesnt go as fast as the Ford Mustang and I AM PISSED!
I just assumed all cars made by Ford, even with different specs, would achieve the same road results.
Dupe me and stuff.
I can say honestly that it is no placebo. I have a 16gb and also bought a 32gb a week ago. Within 5 minutes, the difference was very apparent. To get a better feel, I took the 16 back to stock via fastboot and faced them off on equal ground. I did not benchmark, mainly because two 16's can differ in a benchmark. Would not have proved a thing. So, I went by feel. Both on the same wifi network, the 32 crushed the 16 in dl time, install time, and just overall feel. Scrolling, reaction and graphics were a big difference. I installed NFS mw on both, and the 32 was much much smoother. Those are just my personal findings, for what its worth.
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I don't know, my 16g running at 1.6/484/666 is faster then my dads stock 32g.
Root it and install a better kernel.
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I can say honestly that it is no placebo. I have a 16gb and also bought a 32gb a week ago. Within 5 minutes, the difference was very apparent. To get a better feel, I took the 16 back to stock via fastboot and faced them off on equal ground. I did not benchmark, mainly because two 16's can differ in a benchmark. Would not have proved a thing. So, I went by feel. Both on the same wifi network, the 32 crushed the 16 in dl time, install time, and just overall feel. Scrolling, reaction and graphics were a big difference. I installed NFS mw on both, and the 32 was much much smoother. Those are just my personal findings, for what its worth.
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Did you run tests to eliminate the placebo effect? Probably not.
I've used both the 16gb and 32gb versions and there's virtually no difference.
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Did you run tests to eliminate the placebo effect? Probably not.
I've used both the 16gb and 32gb versions and there's virtually no difference.
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No, but I know how to tell which is downloading faster and installing quicker, which is lagging more and whatnot. Sometimes, you dont need a benchmark to do something as simple as monitor time elapsed. Sometimes in the age of technology, a stopwatch and simultaneous side by side comparison is still very useful. Overthinking can occasionally be a problem.
And if your gonna ask a question like" Did you run a test" and then answer you own question with incorrect and sarcastic assumption, just save your time and dont ask. As a result, I wont answer it, and let you look like the fool all alone.
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I don't know, my 16g running at 1.6/484/666 is faster then my dads stock 32g.
Root it and install a better kernel.
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Thats very true, but I compared both stock. If the 16 has a custom kernel, then the 32 needs to have the same in order for a comparison to be anywhere near accurate. You could compare a stock gm engine to a blown 383 too, but it would be pointless. Dont need a dragstrip to figure that one out.
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Not to be a Debbie Downer here, but we've seen variations larger than this in N7's running the same specs, ROMs, etc. Hence the many differences in the "lag thread" and many other threads. A test between 2 units isn't even remotely conclusive.
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Ok, so how many of us are holding on to our captivates until the SGSIII is released to the US? I'm due for an upgrade, but I'm waiting. I just hope the devs here hold out long enough until we get it!:beer:
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I am, cuz then the sgsII will be even cheaper.
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Sgs3 was severely underwhelming..
with no external sdcard slot, and AT&T is only going with the 16gb version, and it's going to have just a dual core cpu.
I got a note a couple months back using my upgrade, with the intention of selling it and getting an sgs3, bit with those negatives, my note has the pretty much the same cpu, with more space options, and of course a nice huge screen.
TL;DR
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I am going to wait a bit to see what the dev community does to it and how the phone performs.
The cappy in my area has pretty bad signal, which I chalk up to a not strong enough internal radio. Trying various modems helped a bit but still pretty poor.
More of a hardware issue I think. My Blackberry Torch 2 gets full bars where my cappy might get 2 or 3 at best.
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Sgs3 was severely underwhelming..
with no external sdcard slot, and AT&T is only going with the 16gb version, and it's going to have just a dual core cpu.
I got a note a couple months back using my upgrade, with the intention of selling it and getting an sgs3, bit with those negatives, my note has the pretty much the same cpu, with more space options, and of course a nice huge screen.
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They say the tmobile one might have quadcore with 2 gig of ram... And i didn't see that it didn't have micro sd slot
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Sgs3 was severely underwhelming..
with no external sdcard slot, and AT&T is only going with the 16gb version, and it's going to have just a dual core cpu.
I got a note a couple months back using my upgrade, with the intention of selling it and getting an sgs3, bit with those negatives, my note has the pretty much the same cpu, with more space options, and of course a nice huge screen.
TL;DR
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All SGSIII variants have an external sd card slot. AT&T is selling a 16GB one for $39 to make up for their "only selling a 16GB version" mistake.
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I've been waiting for this phone for a long freaking time. Now AT&T is the only carrier not selling 32GB...it really pisses me off. I mean, who cares about a RED phone??? Give me that other 16GB of space.
I live in a rural area with no LTE and a lot of spotty 3G coverage. Mix that with my 2GB/month cap and "living in the cloud" just isn't an option.
So my choices are (1) suck it up and deal with limited storage on AT&T where I can have the phone June 19; or (2) Wait an extra 2.5 weeks for it to hit Verizon and change carriers. The fact that Verizon will be enabling global data on their version might be the clincher for me.
Nope, sticking with my cappy till I see something worth getting. SGS3 is not it, and that's all I'll say.
Really I'm waiting for phones built for ICS, which is nothing out now nor coming in the next few months. They were all designed for GB, and it shows
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I am, cuz then the sgsII will be even cheaper.
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This guy knows it. I got my Captivate off of craigslist, and I plan to do the same with SII once SIII releases.
Looking for a fully featured 7 tablet, that I will be using for web browsing, gaming (intense ones ) and studying.
Planning on using this device for a couple of years before replacing I am assuming 3 to 4 years?
Our family currently has the Tab 2 7.0 and I reckon it's a bit sluggish, is the Nexus 7 exceptionally smooth?
Should I get it?
It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
In terms of processing-power it's right up there with the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy SIII, so you're not looking at problems playing games in the near future.
Also, you got an active development community for the device, so even if Google decides to not support the tablet with new versions of Android, you can still keep up to date with what the devs are pumping out.
I've been using mine almost all the time when i'm not sitting in front of my rig, and it has never let me down.
I might say it is likely to be future proof for at least 2 years. It has the hardware, and Google is known to support their nexus line for quite a while. My guess is that it will be in the front line of the upcoming key lime pie update tier.
It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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I know that the new chips introduced at CES 2013 are a few times more powerfull than the Tegra 3. What I ment was that future apps and games will work OK for 2 years. The average life span of a phone and table is 2 years, if it's a flagship device at the time you make the purchase. And the thing is if you fear buying a new device just because it's not future proof, you'll end up never buying anything. 200 dollars isn't a lot of money for what you're getting with this tablet.
Re: How future proof is the Nexus 70
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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The N7 is faster than a Tab, its processors clock at 1.3 GHz and in terms of build quality i'd say they are on equal levels.
I know there are a few stories out there about screen lift on early batches of the N7, but since I can only speak from personal experience, I can say that the build quality of mine is exceptional.
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I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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You probably shouldn't try to provide an answer when you don't know what you're talking about. The nexus 7 is a 1.2ghz quad core processor, tab 2 is 1ghz dual core, not the same. As for apps Samsung forces on users, there's always plenty of alternatives on the play store.
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CrazyPeter said:
It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
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I hope so. I just bought one off of Ebay and I'm waiting on delivery. I'm a little skeptical of the performance of the N7. I have a SG3 that has higher Quadrant scores, so I hope it has enough processing power to go beyond KLP.
If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
2 years for a 250$ device seems like more than enough to say that it paid for itself. Most probably the games development will skyrocket, better specs will be required, better screens, more storage space. So, as I said, for me 2 years is a good estimate.
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If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
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Greed, that's is what i bought one.
I bought my wife a TF300 several months ago, it is on par with the N7's performance but the N7 cost almost half the price.
IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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Um. What? It's a quad core 1.3ghz. The companion core is is 500Mhz.
let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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maybe not..
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3016117/asus-maakt-tweede-nexus-7-tablet.html
or in english: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130128PD222.html
it depends on when google wil release the next nexus 7.
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I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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Wrong on so many levels. Is this why you wanted to hang out in here even though you don't have a N7?
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let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
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i never mention the Galaxy Tab 2 in my post.
It's a Nexus device, so it will be supported going forward for quite a while, and since it is easy to unlock, the developer community will support it for quite a while.
It probably won't be the best gaming device in 2 years, since that pushes hardware well beyond most other tasks, but if it starts to get a bit slower, you can always push the clocks. It seems most of the N7s will push the cores to 1.4 or 1.5 without any issues, and 1.6 is doable for burst before hitting thermal limits, with some chips able to run even faster. The GPU pushes quite well too.
I'd fully suggest one as a reasonably future-proof device. Plus, they'll likely still resell for $50-$100 in 2 years, which means you're paying $50-$75/yr for a Nexus device. That's pretty good.
I recently purchased an N7 but at the MWC I saw ASUS announce the Fonepad.
I would love if I could use my N7 as my every day phone.
The snag is I'm in Canada so it might be hard to obtain one, and I'm not sure how the atom benchmarks against the processor in the current N7.
I've also been considering returning it because I've heard a new version of the n7 is coming out with 1080p and 2GB of ram.
If you always think about what products that will be released in the future, you'll never buy and enjoy anything. The N7 is great. You bought it, now enjoy it.
Well, obviously newer tabs....except cheapo ones, are gonna be better.
If you wanna spend 300....you made a great decision. If you can spend much more, then no you didn't.
I think this is obvious, and why no one is replying.
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I recently purchased an N7 but at the MWC I saw ASUS announce the Fonepad.
I would love if I could use my N7 as my every day phone.
The snag is I'm in Canada so it might be hard to obtain one, and I'm not sure how the atom benchmarks against the processor in the current N7.
I've also been considering returning it because I've heard a new version of the n7 is coming out with 1080p and 2GB of ram.
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I bought the N7 last week and ended up returning it. I'm trying to transition from an iPad to an Android tablet and found the screen quality on the N7 to be lacking. It's an excellent low-end tablet, but the screen quality is nowhere near the iPad.
Right now I'm going to either
a) Get a Nexus 10, OR
b) Wait until Mid-May to see how the refreshed Nexus 7 will turn out.
I love the size of the N7, and I already have a tablet for the moment, so I'm thinking I may choose option b. I also fear that if I end up purchasing a N10, it'll have some amazing hardware refresh in the next 4-5 months and I'll end up getting ticked off.
Since I already have a tablet of some sort, it's easier for me to wait a bit. If someone needs a tablet NOW, I'd suggest the N10 to them.
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I bought the N7 last week and ended up returning it. I'm trying to transition from an iPad to an Android tablet and found the screen quality on the N7 to be lacking. It's an excellent low-end tablet, but the screen quality is nowhere near the iPad.
Right now I'm going to either
a) Get a Nexus 10, OR
b) Wait until Mid-May to see how the refreshed Nexus 7 will turn out.
I love the size of the N7, and I already have a tablet for the moment, so I'm thinking I may choose option b. I also fear that if I end up purchasing a N10, it'll have some amazing hardware refresh in the next 4-5 months and I'll end up getting ticked off.
Since I already have a tablet of some sort, it's easier for me to wait a bit. If someone needs a tablet NOW, I'd suggest the N10 to them.
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Low end? Its specs still stand up or beat most newer 7" tablets.
For 7"....not much that's better...the low price is a bonus.
If you're gonna talk 10"....its apples and oranges. They can pack more tech into their bigger size...obviously. Also...some people don't consider 10" cause its too big.
If someone is afraid that something better will come out....that WILL always happen. So better not buy anything....or maybe just rent...so you can upgrade at will!
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Low end? Its specs still stand up or beat most newer 7" tablets.
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Probably a poor choice of phrasing on my part (I'm battling a head cold and can't think straight).
The internals are excellent, but the screen isn't great. The screen is on-par or better-than tablets in that size range, but it's not as good as a larger sized tablet. Since the size isn't a major issue with me, I have the luxury of being able to compare the larger screens to the smaller ones. I don't expect them to cram the resolution of an N10 into an N7 though.
My particular N7 also had very washed-out colors and very bad backlight bleeding at two corners. Hopefully any refresh that is done will fix quality issues like this.
I think the screen is fantastic - no issues here.
I love my N7
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You could always use Google Voice and GrooveIP together. I use mine as a house phone with that combination while I'm at home. A Google Voice account is free and GrooveIP Lite is free on the play store. There is also a paid version but the free Lite version has everything you need. Use the Google Voice app for texting. All free on a Wi-Fi connection.
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The N7 forum is probably the last place you'd ask if you made a good decision. I'd venture a guess that most people would confirm that you made a wonderful decision in purchasing one, regardless of what for.
@op,
A bit of good old fashioned research would have answered all questions you have asked here. .
You have bought a quad core, tegra 3 running device which is still quite powerful. It will do whatever you ask it too generally, and it will do it well. I bought mine for £169.99 if i remember correctly, for the 32gig version. If you take all this into account, then go ahead and use it, you`ll find yourself amazed at how good it is, versus value for money, there is nothing better.
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The N7 forum is probably the last place you'd ask if you made a good decision. I'd venture a guess that most people would confirm that you made a wonderful decision in purchasing one, regardless of what for.
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Sales figures also confirm why it is such a good device...if your expecting snapdragon 4/ 2 gig ram type hardware then obviously stay of the crack. Respectively, nobody can deny that it is fantastic value for money.
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I can't decide on the Nexus 7 or the Galaxy Tab 7.7. Tomorrow I will test drive both.
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As long as you don't need a rear camera I would say get the nexus 7. Absolutely amazing.
love mine
it is the perfect addition to my android family of devices
signed owner of -
droid eris x 2 - for the little ones (3 of them)
droid incredible x2 - for the little ones running PAC rom
droid inc 2 - snazzy red mp3 player running viper inc
rezound - current phone running the amazing ecliptic sense
acer iconia a500 - current civato re-flexx rom - amazing
finished the day on my n7 with 68% battery left after 20 hours off the charger.
Macmee said:
I recently purchased an N7 but at the MWC I saw ASUS announce the Fonepad.
I would love if I could use my N7 as my every day phone.
The snag is I'm in Canada so it might be hard to obtain one, and I'm not sure how the atom benchmarks against the processor in the current N7.
I've also been considering returning it because I've heard a new version of the n7 is coming out with 1080p and 2GB of ram.
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You made a good decision with the information that was available at the time. Don't beat yourself up about it.
I like the direction things are going and I think we will see more 7" tabs with small bezels and voice integration. People get pi$$ed at teh idea of using it as a phone, but like I keep saying you don't have to use it as a phone, its just nice to have additional options.
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If you always think about what products that will be released in the future, you'll never buy and enjoy anything. The N7 is great. You bought it, now enjoy it.
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I find the Nexus 7 to be a blast. It's so much fun getting to experiment with other developer's ROMs on the latest form of Android. Of course there are always updates to be released, nothing's perfect. The Nexus 7 is definitely a good choice considering what other Android tablets are floating around in the market.
Nexus 7 vs Samsung
try to check this.
try to contact any webpage from Nexus 7 and the competitor, and you will see the difference.
Nexus 7 always.
This was the test that I did.
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You made a good decision with the information that was available at the time. Don't beat yourself up about it.
I like the direction things are going and I think we will see more 7" tabs with small bezels and voice integration. People get pi$$ed at teh idea of using it as a phone, but like I keep saying you don't have to use it as a phone, its just nice to have additional options.
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I don't see why people would be angry about using a 7" tablet as a phone. We already have a 6"1 phone out now. Heck, we'll see 7“ phones pretty soon.
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What I'm worried about is that there will be a refresh with 2gb of ram and a better screen.
Then you've answered thread already! Just wait. Or you will be disappointed ....right?
And a 7 inch phone? LOL. No thanks! I have an s2, and since I got my tab ....I kinda wish I had a smaller phone.
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Lonnnng time note user here. Had note 2, 3, and 4. Think I'm going the nexus route. Samsung has been good to me but.......what are your thoughts note 4 users?
No removable battery and no SD card=no sale. I'm hoping LG V10 pro is 6"but I'll probably go LG next time.
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It's one of the phones on my "maybe" list. The 128gb model isn't too horrendously expensive, so I could probably live with it. I'm definitely going to wait and see what else LG comes out with though.
I'm just not feeling the LG stuff anymore. It kills me that these companies drop expandable memory like a bad habit.
Yup. I ordered the 6P in graphite with 128 GBs, shortly after the site went live. I can deal with the no SD card and irremovable battery since it's 3450 mAh.
Plus, the screen is from Samsung's latest gen so it's better than the Note 4's screen. The Nexus imprint and front facing speakers are amazing, and I won't have to rely on T-mobile to push out updates. Can't believe most of us have to flash a custom rom to be up to date with 5.1.1. The days of waiting are finally over.
I am however going to miss my S-Pen. Doodling in snapchat will be sorely missed
Waiting for Google to decide that sales aren't good enough via Internet and sell through the carriers so I can Jump.
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No one thinks it is weird that the LG V10, a premium device, is going to use the same processor and GPU combination as the Nexus 5X but with twice the resolution and twice the RAM? When someone tells me that they can't run a game on their PC I don't ask them how much RAM they have. Someone, somewhere thinks throwing more RAM in it is a cost-saving upgrade for sluggishness.
If people buy this phone it sends the message that we don't care what silicon is in the phone as long as it "feels premium" and that is a ridiculous notion. Seriously, check out these tests: http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-benchmarked---how-does-the-Snapdragon-808-fare_id68814 It wins in a few categories and but loses in GPU testing. At least get the 14nm Samsung Exynos if you're going to upgrade.
I ordered the silver one with 128gb. I miss having pure Android. I never rooted and flashed any ROMs on my Note 4 b/c I didn't want to lose wifi calling, but now that it's baked into Marshmallow, getting the 6P was a no brainer for me. Would have loved it in the 5X form, but oh well. I thought I would use the functionality the Note 4 more than I did; I barely use the S Pen. The only thing I might miss would be the ability to have two or more apps open at the same time, but I'm sure there is or will be an app for that.
You guys get it report back on your experience. I'm going for the 6p as well.
Nah, just going to stick with the Note 4 probably till the end of next year. I like the Nexus', but I don't /love/ them. Too many compromises. Nothing has really come out that makes me go "damn i need that!"..
^other than the timely updates.
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Maybe. That processor is a let down IMO, I would have preferred the exynos. Front facing speakers, 128gb well priced...strong maybe. Not sure if it will be "faster" than my note 4 with a custom ROM. I want to get off Samsung for awhile to show my disdain for them screwing up the note series ( I have owned all four iterations).
Im probably going to get the LG V10. Has the IR blaster, removable battery, micro sd, fingerprint, great camera and features. Only downside i see is that its using Snapdragon 808 which is getting outdated.
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I told myself that I am getting a Nexus this time around because I'm tired of dealing/waiting on a 3rd party for fixes/updates and I miss the huge amount of development. The last Nexus I had was the 5, which was also my first, and I loved that phone. I ended up replacing it for a HTC ONE (M8) and then I tried like hell to get the Nexus 6 when it came out, but then I went with the Note 4 because it was a little better and I was tired of waiting.
The whole thing with the removable battery and SD card slot has become more of a nuisance lately rather than something I look for. I would much rather carry around a battery pack than an extra battery because I feel that it's more convenient and has more features... My phone isn't the only I carry around that needs charged. And with the phone being available with 128GB I see no need for an SD card slot anymore... I have a 64GB card in my Note 4 right now and it's only 3/4 of the way full.
Ultimately it came down to the quality of the device along with the service it comes with and the dual front-facing speakers that I sorely miss from my HTC ONEs... and who knows, I might just try out ProjectFi.
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Persianhawkes said:
Im probably going to get the LG V10. Has the IR blaster, removable battery, micro sd, fingerprint, great camera and features. Only downside i see is that its using Snapdragon 808 which is getting outdated.
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How is the 808 outdated lol? It's comparable to the 810 and both are more than capable of handing anything and everything... you're not missing out on anything. Even if the 820/620 were to come out tomorrow the only thing you'd be really missing out on, that's even remotely noticeable, is better power efficiency.
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I told myself that I am getting a Nexus this time around because I'm tired of dealing/waiting on a 3rd party for fixes/updates and I miss the huge amount of development. The last Nexus I had was the 5, which was also my first, and I loved that phone. I ended up replacing it for a HTC ONE (M8) and then I tried like hell to get the Nexus 6 when it came out, but then I went with the Note 4 because it was a little better and I was tired of waiting.
The whole thing with the removable battery and SD card slot has become more of a nuisance lately rather than something I look for. I would much rather carry around a battery pack than an extra battery because I feel that it's more convenient and has more features... My phone isn't the only I carry around that needs charged. And with the phone being available with 128GB I see no need for an SD card slot anymore... I have a 64GB card in my Note 4 right now and it's only 3/4 of the way full.
Ultimately it came down to the quality of the device along with the service it comes with and the dual front-facing speakers that I sorely miss from my HTC ONEs... and who knows, I might just try out ProjectFi.
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How is the 808 outdated lol? It's comparable to the 810 and both are more than capable of handing anything and everything... you're not missing out on anything. Even if the 820/620 were to come out tomorrow the only thing you'd be really missing out on, that's even remotely noticeable, is better power efficiency.
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Not outdated yet but a year from now it will lol. Otherwise unless Samsung brings back micro sd and qualcomm processor for development im jumping ship.
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Not outdated yet but a year from now it will lol. Otherwise unless Samsung brings back micro sd and qualcomm processor for development im jumping ship.
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I highly doubt any software within the next 2 years will need any more power than we currently have. The 810 was announced in April of 2014, but I don't think it was until July '14 that it was actually in a device. A year from now the 810 will only be 2 years old, but still far from outdated/worthless.
I like keeping my phone update to the newest and most secured firmware. I don't believe I should have to wait six months to a year to get that. So, yes I will be switching. And will be going to project fi.
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Nah I'm going to give my wife the note 4 I'm tired of Samsung bullcrap too much bloat.. I know people said rood but I shouldn't have to deal with that
I'll get one as a backup device... It can't replace my Note 4 for functionality.
Of course I'll wait until user reviews are out. I no longer feel the need to buy a device the day it's up for presale.
UPDATE: Now I'm looking at the new WIndows Phone... That may be a better backup device.
I most Def would get it but since you can only purchase online and you can't jump to it imma wait for the next phone that isn't Samsung
Hey guys quick question. Can you post some benchmarks of the 512gb version and the 128gb version? I curious if there is any performance gain with the 2 extra go of memory. There isn’t anything like that on YouTube. I appreciate it.
Both phones will be fast as hell. The extra 2 gig ram means that you can essentially have more apps open at the same time and I have noticed a slightly zippier performance compared to my 6gb s9 plus
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Both phones will be fast as hell. The extra 2 gig ram means that you can essentially have more apps open at the same time and I have noticed a slightly zippier performance compared to my 6gb s9 plus
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Thanks for replying Mikey. Both of those phones the S9+ and Note 9 have the same cpu, correct?
Correct. You would hard tell the difference. The s9 can be found as an A Grade refurb online for less than £500 here in the UK if you hunt about. That's over half the price of the N9 for essentially the same real world performance...
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Correct. You would hard tell the difference. The s9 can be found as an A Grade refurb online for less than £500 here in the UK if you hunt about. That's over half the price of the N9 for essentially the same real world performance...
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That was one of Zeedomax's arguments from his YouTube channel High on Android. He was basically saying the SD845 has been out since the S9 introduction and technically Samsung shouldn't be selling the note9 as much as it is, since the chips are now 6 plus months old and cheaper to buy.
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Correct. You would hard tell the difference. The s9 can be found as an A Grade refurb online for less than £500 here in the UK if you hunt about. That's over half the price of the N9 for essentially the same real world performance...
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Well there's no s-pen, which is why you buy a Note, so... Not the same performance to me. I get what you're trying to say, but I cannot comprehend why anyone would go for the Note9 without wanting a stylus.
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That was one of Zeedomax's arguments from his YouTube channel High on Android. He was basically saying the SD845 has been out since the S9 introduction and technically Samsung shouldn't be selling the note9 as much as it is, since the chips are now 6 plus months old and cheaper to buy.
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It's $159 over S9+ for: double storage, larger battery, stylus with Bluetooth, a screen capable of understanding 4096 pressure sensitivity levels, and a slightly better, brighter screen at that. How is that $159 jump not justified? I don't get it. That's a ton of extra stuff. Just because people don't use the stylus and special screen, doesn't mean they aren't costs. And larger battery and double storage alone is "worth that" for many.
yes even the 6GB Note 9 version is faster than the 6GB S9 plus version.
Picking up my 128 today from Best Buy. Seems like almost everyone is buying the 512 even if it’s not needed. I don’t really think there’s a huge difference between 6 or 8gb of ram for daily usage.
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Picking up my 128 today from Best Buy. Seems like almost everyone is buying the 512 even if it’s not needed. I don’t really think there’s a huge difference between 6 or 8gb of ram for daily usage.
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Essentially no there is not a major real world difference. However there are probably power users on here where the extra ram and the 512 would be useful
dooku77 said:
Picking up my 128 today from Best Buy. Seems like almost everyone is buying the 512 even if it’s not needed. I don’t really think there’s a huge difference between 6 or 8gb of ram for daily usage.
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One word Merica. The place where bigger numbers equals more sales. Example Mercedes Benz, 500sel , yet here it was one labeled a 550 sel or something . Perception of the market.
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