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Hi,
Until now I had thought REinstalling a closed market app will force a credit card check anyway (to validate that the app had been payed by the user before) ...!
I have just realized that it is possible with rooted phones to backup a closed (paid) market application to SD (PC), then copy it to another (rooted) phone, reinstall WITHOUT market intervention/validation/credit card check, which means to me that theoretically Google's Market Place can be circumnavigated by filesharing ...!
Is this possibly another thorn in Google's flesh to kill Cyanogen before anybody in the world will use a rooted phone to participate? So Cyanogen is only stated an exampel for all the rooted Android ROMs.
The One Click Method (in opposite to the Goldcard Rooting) makes it easy even for kindergarden kids now ... !
Then at least we have become victims of our perfectionism ...!
Regards
It IS possible to do that yes, however if you were installing a paid app on the phone that you do not own and attempt to update it to the latest version, it WILL fail to update to the newest release without charging you for the app first, so be careful. I've always know there were ways to "steal" paid apps using a rooted phone but to be honest I've never been interested in doing so, if I wanted an app bad enough I paid for it like I should have. I am just interested in making a copy of the app I paid for to have for myself in case of all hell breaking loose.
You can do the same on a non rooted phone (iirc)
The market / package installer is really unprotected imo, it needs more protection for devs.
Yeah, this is hardly new, the community have known about this for months.
If you use an app to backup your apps (ASTRO, AppManager, whatver) it simply copies the apk from /data/app to your sdcard so it can be reinstalled at any point. Protected apps are stored in /data/app-private. Apps like those can't copy protected apps (90% or so of paid apps are protected), but if you have root you can copy the apk out of /data/app-private and reinstall.
I realize I've basically given instructions on how to pirate something, that wasn't my intention I was simply trying to clarify. Oh well, I still reckon this post will be deleted..
It's pretty much common knowledge if you know how to use the ls command.
nothing new
Nothing new here. People have been doing this with all apps (not just paid) for a while now. Its worth making backups of your apps for personal use, this is all well and good, incase you need to wipe your device between roms etc. However what would be be the point in sharing a paid app for free? As already mentioned you can't update it for free so your going to be stuck with an outdated app without access to any new features the developer adds in the future nor will you get any bug fixes if these are needed.
I do try and stay away from paid apps personally as my belief is that android is open-source and everything that goes with it should be free. But there apps out there that are worth the money.
Also, how long before this thread is locked / closed by mods? I'm sure xda rules state that your not allowed to explain how to get around paying for things. Community is to be supported not ripped off.
Ultimately if the app is good PAY THE DEVELOPER they did put a lot of work into creating the app in the first place so it can't hurt us to send them a few coins.
now y or we talking bout selling here,or we that damn cheap you cant pay
$.99 - $2.99 for a app yall sad..lol..cuz we not dumb here,we know there is a way but keep it to urself ppl..thz
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Not sure why you brought up Cyanogen as this has nothing to do with Cyanogen. It is an issue with the reliance on protected apps using the Linux permissions for copy access.
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So, Launcher Pro + has just been released, and he's charging 3 bucks for it.
This is my question, How do I get it onto my rooted Captivate? I know it's only 3 dollars, but I'd rather know how to get it on before I actually buy it. Know what I mean?
It isn't available in the market yet, so we have to send him a paypal directly.
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side load it with droid explorer? That guy did a great job with launcher pro.
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So, Launcher Pro + has just been released, and he's charging 3 bucks for it.
This is my question, How do I get it onto my rooted Captivate? I know it's only 3 dollars, but I'd rather know how to get it on before I actually buy it. Know what I mean?
It isn't available in the market yet, so we have to send him a paypal directly.
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Quit being cheap and support a developer that worked hard to make a beautiful piece of software.
As you said, it's only 3 dollars.
This is my first android phone. I promise developers will get my money but you have no reason to call anyone cheap. It was a question. If you have a problem with my questions don't read them.
So, what is droid explorer?
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oh i didnt see that you wanted to know how to do it illegally. Droid explorer is program that helps sideload apps. Just do a search for captivate and droid explorer or look through our sideloading apps threads.
On the piracy note, its not ok to discuss such things here because not only is it morally incorrect but xda has to own up for the activities of its users.
btw, because the new launcher pro + costs money, i highly recommend getting the launcher pro regular. Launcher pro truly shines in its speed and flexibility not its widgets. You can always dl more widgets for free from the marketplace. Ofc i will buy his launcher pro + when it comes to market just on principle because of the great launcher alternative he has provided free of charge for everyone to use.
No I wans buy it but I don't know how to put non market apps on my phone. It is rooted though. Does that help?
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No I wans buy it but I don't know how to put non market apps on my phone. It is rooted though. Does that help?
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sho does, you should pay for it and then he will provide you with an apk to install it with. Droid explorer can take care of the rest. There are other alternatives as well. You should read the sideloading apps threads here in the captivate forums because there is alot of information you should go over b4 attempting and getting frustrated and giving up. Post for help there if you still dont understand after reading through .
Thanks! And just to clear the air, I do not believe in piracy. Developers work too hard on their products. I've paid for most of my programs with Nokia and Apple, just as I will here. I just didn't know how to do it!
I'll look up droid explorer and read that thread. Thanks for the help
Launcher Pro is a mad awesome app. I would pay 10.00 or more for it. I swear my Captivate is TWICE as fast as The iPhone 4 i just returned to At&t.
The dev states it will be in the App market soon, at least thats how I took it from reading his website.
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Quit being cheap and support a developer that worked hard to make a beautiful piece of software.
As you said, it's only 3 dollars.
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You are being very mean to the poster. He said he doesn't want to buy it if he doesn't know he can use it. You want him to buy it if he can't use it?
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You are being very mean to the poster. He said he doesn't want to buy it if he doesn't know he can use it. You want him to buy it if he can't use it?
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I'm stating that he should buy it. If it doesn't work I can almost guarantee that the developer would give him a refund.
Next time you're at a car dealership, steal a car for me so I can drive it for a week.... I want to make sure it "works" with my style of driving before I purchase it..
Launcher Pro in the market is almost exactly the same as the plus version, but without the custom widgets included. Other than that it's the same. No need to steal.
He didnt say anything about pirating it. He said he wants to buy it but is not sure how to install a non market app. He is just doing a little pre purchase research.
Would you buy a car before or after you learned to drive?
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Ugh, you think you can get away from Trolls who can't read, or at least piece together what someone says.
Not once did I say I wanted to pirate software. I said that I don't know how to put a non-market app on a device since AT&T will not allow it. So why would I spend my money on something that I can't put on there?
Do you buy 18 inch tires for your 16 inch rims, just because bridgestone makes a good tire? No. Sheesh, just leave me alone SkYz.
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Launcher Pro in the market is almost exactly the same as the plus version, but without the custom widgets included. Other than that it's the same. No need to steal.
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Show me where I said I was going to steal it? Go read my first post and explain to me which part meant I was going to try and pirate software. Once you've decided on which part, read the whole post again and figure it out a second time.
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I'm stating that he should buy it. If it doesn't work I can almost guarantee that the developer would give him a refund.
Next time you're at a car dealership, steal a car for me so I can drive it for a week.... I want to make sure it "works" with my style of driving before I purchase it..
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Why would you need to do that? You have "paper work" to back you up. You think Paypal is going to refund you for downloading a program that you should have researched if it was compatible with your phone or not? That is what he is trying to do. Next time just give him his answer.
You could have been like "Yes, I have it installed right now."
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No I wans buy it but I don't know how to put non market apps on my phone. It is rooted though. Does that help?
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Why not just install the free version and see if you like it and if so upgrade to the paid version.
Also under settings - applications - unknown sources is where you can install apps from the market that would usually not install. --- Did ATT cripple that in the Captivate??
I have the free version but not the paid one
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Also under settings - applications - unknown sources is where you can install apps from the market that would usually not install. --- Did ATT cripple that in the Captivate??
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yup they did, but there's a way to permanently allow non-market apps via editing the .db file and turning the option on
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I have the free version but not the paid one
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if the free one works, then so will the paid one.
droid explorer gives you access to side load the app once you have downloaded & copied the .apk file to your sdcard.
sorry for all of the posts lol.. also, ADW Launcher works perfect as well, thats the one that i use & is in the market for free
So when I first got the captivate I was disappointed that my buddy with the incredible could side-load apps and I could not... So what did I do? I rooted it and enabled side-loading... now that was over a month or more ago and I have yet to install one non-market app... What are you guys using for apps that are not on the market?
MiKandi, for the gay porn.
Seriously though, I don't think most people sideload non-market apps, or at least I haven't really found anything worthwhile outside of the market, especially since the captivate comes with Swype pre-installed. I've sideloaded some beta software that isn't found in the market, like firefox mobile, and some other stuff that disappeared from the market after my 2.2 upgrade (new york times mobile), but none of them are must-have apps. Most of the sideloading I do is just to test my own programs, since the sdk's simulator runs slow on my computer. It's nice to have the option though, even if you don't currently need it.
Also, if I remember right, some game companies don't sell their stuff on the market, like assassin's creed and whatnot. I'd imagine you'd have to be able to install non-market apps to install those.
nfl moble from verizon
1. Fancy Widget
2. DropBox (working non-market version1003)
3. QIK 0.3.74 (working video chat 3g/wifi)
4. Glyder2 (is it market yet?)
5. StarWars Live Wallpapers
Don't tell people how to get warez on XDA.
All the gameloft games: NOVA, Sandstorm, hero of sparta, dungeon hunter, etc
Fancy widget
Genie widget
Asphalt
Live wallpapers
Pre8
NFL app
Lots of stuff off xda
From a phone on an app
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That supports android development how?
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boborone said:
That supports android development how?
From a phone on an app
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I'm more likely to buy an app if I can try it first, but let's just ignore the grey area in favor of your simplistic, black and white worldview. Piracy bad!
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I'm more likely to buy an app if I can try it first, but let's just ignore the grey area in favor of your simplistic, black and white worldview. Piracy bad!
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err, your logic is entirely flawed just fyi. if you knew anything about the android market, you'd know you have up to 24 hours after purchasing an app to refund and uninstall it. so you saying "I search for apps so I can try them before I purchase them" is, at best, ridiculously misinformed.
do the right thing and buy the app, if it isn't to your liking, refund it. on any other platform, where this process doesn't exist, I'd give you a break. but android specifically has this setup to avoid exactly what you're saying you do.
edit: should add that the main benefit of enabling sideloading for me is restoring apps through titanium backup after reflashing my phone.
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err, your logic is entirely flawed just fyi. if you knew anything about the android market, you'd know you have up to 24 hours after purchasing an app to refund and uninstall it. so you saying "I search for apps so I can try them before I purchase them" is, at best, ridiculously misinformed.
do the right thing and buy the app, if it isn't to your liking, refund it. on any other platform, where this process doesn't exist, I'd give you a break. but android specifically has this setup to avoid exactly what you're saying you do.
edit: should add that the main benefit of enabling sideloading for me is restoring apps through titanium backup after reflashing my phone.
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Please highlight the sentence where I said anything close to "I pirate apps." I'll wait...
Seriously, you're putting words in my mouth. But for the sake of argument, I'll add that sometimes 24 hours just isn't enough time to determine whether an expensive app like Doggcatcher (a $7 podcast app) is the best available option. I need time to see how it works in different situations, ie how well it streams while I'm at work vs my house, bluetooth vs line-out, how it reacts to different roms, etc. I was forced to take a gamble and buy the app without testing it in every situation I encounter.
If you read my actual statement rather than simply making up your own, you'd see that all I was saying is that there's a gray area. It's more complicated than piracy bad, riaa good.
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Tunee music. But I think I saw in the market now. I used it for a couple songs then thought to myself "self this can't be legal" downloading almost any song you can think of to your phone for free... "self, maybe the record companies made tunee music so they can get richer off poor people that download music for free"
So I do NOT want to be like the lady that downloaded 24 songs and now has to pay something like 1.5 million dollars now. So bye bye it went. I dont have a spare 1.5 mill
But it is a cool app. I originally had to.sideload it. Got it from tuneemusic.net Again I think I saw it.in the market.now.
EDIT:Yep.it is the market now. Just searched for it but DIDNT download
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I like that I can now go to the Science Fiction book publisher's web site direct and download the older stuff for free or get the new stuff at a discount. They even offer ARCs (advance reader copy) of books 6 months before release date. HTTP://WWW.baen.com
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I like that I can now go to the Science Fiction book publisher's web site direct and download the older stuff for free or get the new stuff at a discount. They even offer ARCs (advance reader copy) of books 6 months before release date. <url omitted>
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I wasn't aware of this site. What reader software and download format do you use?
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I wasn't aware of this site. What reader software and download format do you use?
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When I was on WM6.1 I was using .lit files and Microsoft Reader. At least it remembered what page I am on.
Now I use WordPlayer app to read ePub format. www.Baen.com remembers what books you ever got and I can always re-download those in ePub format. WordPlayer will also "talk" to Calibre Library (Free & runs on your "big" computer). Calibre will convert any format eBook to any format. Calibre will also act as a Reader on your desktop. You will eventually move all eBooks into it.
I end up using WordPlayer setup with a black screen (less power) and white letters. Dim or brightning as needed.
Understand that by giving away the first books in a series (or older books) by their top Authors, Baen is like a Drug Dealer giving you a Free Taste!
Go to WWW.droidappz.com
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In case anyone is a member of AppPla***.net (not sure if I can post the name here) Their apk works fine on the NC and you can download just like you can off the Android Market. Not sure why Android Market wont work on the NC, but this works fine. I have gotten 100's of apks there on my NC.
yes, it works fine.
for those opposed to stealing, just remember all the apps with a line through the price are pirated.
Has anyone verified is there were/are any malicious apps on that site/program.. I've been told some of the permissions on some of the apps were "questionable."
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Has anyone verified is there were/are any malicious apps on that site/program.. I've been told some of the permissions on some of the apps were "questionable."
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Anything illegal has a very large chance of causing damage. Use at your own risk. Best to play it safe and stay away. I just wanted to let people know that the apk did in fact work. Maybe it will help someone create the real Market apk.
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yes, it works fine.
for those opposed to stealing, just remember all the apps with a line through the price are pirated.
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Also confirmed working. I'm one of those try it,and if I like it, buy it guys so I think this app works out well for honest guys like myself. I'm not into wasting money (not even a little bit), but I will support quality products so this is right up my alley.
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Also confirmed working. I'm one of those try it,and if I like it, buy it guys so I think this app works out well for honest guys like myself. I'm not into wasting money (not even a little bit), but I will support quality products so this is right up my alley.
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I agree. Just wish the real market would get working so I could actually buy the apps I like!
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I agree. Just wish the real market would get working so I could actually buy the apps I like!
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Yeah I hear you. But this will have to do for now, something is better than nothing. At least we are getting the "Android Market Experience" lol.
Edit: NVM, I'm an idiot who can't follow directions.....
Funny... I installed this App via adb and it doesn't show in my extras... How did you guys get it to appear?
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Funny... I installed this App via adb and it doesn't show in my extras... How did you guys get it to appear?
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Did you restart after installing?
I think it's best we close this just now, before this moves into a full-blown warez discussion. Installing paid apps without paying them is not something this forum condones, nor tolerates the discussion of.
There is progress in using the proper Android market on the device.
I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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If it's being blocked I might return my Nexus 7. It would suck that they would only let you buy apps from them.
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I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
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Not true it's working for me. Go to Amazon& request a new link to be sent to your email.
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Thats strange, i was able to do it on my N7. Maybe a reboot of some sort?
Works fine here. Go into Setting>Security and check Allow unknown sources. Go to Amazon web site and follow instructions to download and install. Did that to download an older version of a zombie killing game that works on N7.
Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
Try rebooting it then re-installing.
If you're installing it from a previous backup from another device, it most likely won't work (not assuming you are, but just in case...) Like the others said, go to Amazon and get it directly and you should have no problem.
What worked for me was clicking the link for tablets. It says something like "no email or phone number, click here" and that downloaded the APK directly into my system download folder. From there it installed just fine. I had to do this to get it on my Google TV also. It seems to bypass some sort of test since the Google TV isn't officially compatible with it.
I just worked with an Amazon tech, got it to install using by going to this like in the browser on the N7.
http://www.amazon.com/app-email
Works fine now.
Mine installed fine. I used the APK from my phone. Got a bunch of the nicer FAOTD apps working perfectly too.
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Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
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Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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Bugger the Apps they get games too. Of course only if you're from a certain country.
Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.
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Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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When it first came out, it was great. Now, the free app is usually a very crappy game. In the past, I got:
Fancy Widgets Pro, Weatherbug Elite, Thumb Keyboard, App 2 SD Pro, Moon Phase Pro, Quickoffice Pro, SoundHound Infinity, Shazam, SwiftKey 3, and several other good ones.
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1. I've never once gotten malware and I always sideload apps. I always leave that setting unticked as do most folks I'm sure.
2. having Amazon app store or any other app store doesn't change your default android Google play store.
You want malware, go download Blackmarket apps or pirate stuff, you'll get it then. I do suggest tho, that everyone should install a malware scanner. Avast, lookout, etc.
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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What? Side loading doesn't put you at any greater risk of malware. You always choose to install an app, whether you side loaded it or not.
Nothing wrong or risky with downloading the Amazon app store, being able to choose a different app store is one of the best things about android. CHOICE.
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