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To root or not to root

Does anyone understand or have any more information about the DRM restrictions if you root your device.
Are the DRM restrictions built into some apps or into Android itself? It would be terrible to pay for content and then to loose access to it, because someone uses some intelligence' by rooting their device.
If I root my Nexus 7, will I be prevented from accessing the material which i've purchased.
Is there a workaround for this ?
I saw a comment from a 'rootKepper' type app which summons this up well :
"Vote with your dollars: Don't accept being a customer of companies restricting your freedom with defective and and inefficient technical measures."
Cheers

I've rooted (but still on stock) and not have come across any apps that have restricted my access of using them because I was rooted. If worse comes to worse you can just unroot your device to use the app.
What would be sweet though is if you can sorta "hide" root and then make it only visible for a specific app that you want to use that uses root access.

jonnyg1097 said:
I've rooted (but still on stock) and not have come across any apps that have restricted my access of using them because I was rooted. If worse comes to worse you can just unroot your device to use the app.
What would be sweet though is if you can sorta "hide" root and then make it only visible for a specific app that you want to use that uses root access.
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Cool thanks for sharing your experience. I feel motivated to give it a go.

I've never had the need to "hide" root, but I'm pretty sure that Voodoo OTA Rootkeper offers this exact functionality.

nyijedi said:
I've never had the need to "hide" root, but I'm pretty sure that Voodoo OTA Rootkeper offers this exact functionality.
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Oh neither have I but now that I am thinking about it, I remember CynogenMod having a feature once upon a time (I havent flashed a rom of theirs in a while so I dont know if they still have it) but they were able to turn root off and on in the settings I guess maybe for situations like this.

Never faced any DRM issue on any unrooted device. Both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7 are rooted and never faced any problem. Reason? Because this problem does not exist. I remember Google Play movies used to complain about rooted device and it does not play movie on rooted device but it has changed since version 2.09c and we are on version 2.21 now. Google has officially stopped caring about root and now they rather support the root and hacking.
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root to get the washed out screen gone
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I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
I think the only thing that you won't be able to do is rent movies with a rooted phone. Doesn't it block you if your rooted?
Also sharp2G, what did you use to change the screen? Trinity app?

player911 said:
I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
I think the only thing that you won't be able to do is rent movies with a rooted phone. Doesn't it block you if your rooted?
Also sharp2G, what did you use to change the screen? Trinity app?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818278

saadi703 said:
Never faced any DRM issue on any unrooted device. Both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7 are rooted and never faced any problem. Reason? Because this problem does not exist. I remember Google Play movies used to complain about rooted device and it does not play movie on rooted device but it has changed since version 2.09c and we are on version 2.21 now. Google has officially stopped caring about root and now they rather support the root and hacking.
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This. I've had 5 rooted devices over the course of three years and six Android versions (2.2 to 4.2) and I've only encountered one app that I can remember (Google play movies) that didn't work with root.

sharp2G said:
root to get the washed out screen gone
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Me too. It is awesome work done by the Dev. I can't thank him enough. It was one of major turn offs whenever I use the device. Now it works and looks awesome without much hit to the battery.
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brando56894 said:
This. I've had 5 rooted devices over the course of three years and six Android versions (2.2 to 4.2) and I've only encountered one app that I can remember (Google play movies) that didn't work with root.
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Now it works
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player911 said:
I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
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Actually. You don't need to be rooted to backup app data anymore.
The latest SDK from Google allows you to use a backup command to backup your app data and settings as well as restore them. No root required. It will even encrypt your backup as well if you want.
I for one am glad to see Google implementing this feature. It's about time.

dellenrules said:
Actually. You don't need to be rooted to backup app data anymore.
The latest SDK from Google allows you to use a backup command to backup your app data and settings as well as restore them. No root required. It will even encrypt your backup as well if you want.
I for one am glad to see Google implementing this feature. It's about time.
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Could you point me to instructions for this? Thanks!
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I rooted but refuse to change ROMs. Stock ROM is excellent.
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tribestros said:
I rooted but refuse to change ROMs. Stock ROM is excellent.
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Just curious as to why root then? I too love stock JB but it feels so weird to me to not be rooted. I feel like stock has everything I need though. Just wondering what things you needed to be root for if your running the stock ROM. I'd be interested!
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TheIowaKid said:
Just curious as to why root then? I too love stock JB but it feels so weird to me to not be rooted. I feel like stock has everything I need though. Just wondering what things you needed to be root for if your running the stock ROM. I'd be interested!
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Titanium Backup, USB OTG, changing to tablet UI, etc.

Root!
Root! It has great expansion options for your tablet. When you root, try using ModaCo's ROM and see how little things change. When you are done using and learn a little more about rooting and the abilities that it enforces you to use, switch over to moles Parandroid ROM. Its great and requires a little bit more expertise in the rooting world, but before you know it you will be an expert!
Cheers,
Vanka

Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but Skype did give me some sort of a message about not running on modified versions of android, but it worked anyway. Running stock ROM, trinity kernel in tablet ui.
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What does tablet ui mean ? Is it about changing the screen density to a certain setting or is there more to it ?

saadi703 said:
Me too. It is awesome work done by the Dev. I can't thank him enough. It was one of major turn offs whenever I use the device. Now it works and looks awesome without much hit to the battery.
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Now it works
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Could you please point me to the thread for this rom or rooted app?
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Removing system apps: cannot root

I have recently Restored my N1 from an ICS ROM and am back on Gingerbread 2.3.6.
I am wanting to remove some system apps but I cannot for the life of me find out how to root the N1.
Much googling has lead me to dead ends and dead links and I feel I am missing something really obvious that everyone else but me knows.
The guides I have found on rooting all appear to involve custom ROMs which I don't want at the moment.
The bootloader is still unlocked and I know at some point in the past I did have the device rooted on gingerbread but I can't remember how?

try www.unlockroot.com
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Is that a trusted source?

Yes It is.
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Yep, that worked
Thanks.
If I may be so bold... what would be the best app to use to actually remove the system apps?
I have used one in the past but found that when I removed anything it would shut off the nexus completely and not actually remove anything.

use titanium backup. it would be safe to hv a backup via a custom recovery, before removing system apps...
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@shaneydroid.
if you have got solutions to your questions, pls change the thread title to [solved]
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Safest way to root and back up nexus 7

Any tips on the safest easiest way to root my nexus 7 and also backup everything on it to windows XP
Thanks.
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Look up an app called carbon. It will allow you to backup apps from you pre rooted device. Plus, simply plug in your device and backup anything of interest like photos and downloads or music. Then root in your preferred method (wugs root tool in the nexus 7 android development stickies is quite easy). This process will unlock your bootloader (which will wipe your device back to factory state) install a rooted boot.img and custom recovery, and even take care of installing superuser into the stock rom. Once done there, you can then perform any backups within the device itself via titanium backup for user apps (system apps can cause issues). Also you can use your new custom recovery to create a full system backup called a nandroid backup (that can later be stored off device for safety of you like.

Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467

CFRTim said:
Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467
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Best tool to get it done, it walks you thru it

Just used it last night. Was a breeze abd easy.
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Another vote f or Wug's NRT. Too easy.
Fire it up, backup, unlock, root, and restore.

Wug's toolkit was awesome for me as well
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hey guys im about to get my N7 in a few days (still shipping) planning on using wugs tool as well.
im planning on installing smoothmod right after is it possible doing these together as a brand new never before used device? and how? im so noob xD

MxZeal said:
hey guys im about to get my N7 in a few days (still shipping) planning on using wugs tool as well.
im planning on installing smoothmod right after is it possible doing these together as a brand new never before used device? and how? im so noob xD
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Yes it is possible. First unlock your bootloader, then root it using wugs toolkit.

MxZeal said:
hey guys im about to get my N7 in a few days (still shipping) planning on using wugs tool as well.
im planning on installing smoothmod right after is it possible doing these together as a brand new never before used device? and how? im so noob xD
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It would be better to do it right when you get it before you install apps and save data in it.

Nexus Toolkit works great, too. I haven't tried Wugs, but I'm gonna give it a try another time when I root someone else's N7.

I am backup my System image via TWRP and OTG too an external hd.
My internal Files I am also backup via OTG: I am use rsync. Using the adb backup method is also possible, but for me it is very slow and a bit insecure I think... I trust TWRP.

Thanks everyone. Still deciding if I'm gonna do it or not.
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darkstarskater said:
Thanks everyone. Still deciding if I'm gonna do it or not.
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Just unlock your bootloader if anything. That's all I did. The Nexus 7 is not preloaded with useless bloatware, so I didn't feel the need to root, and proceed any further. I even got the OTG cable to work on stock ROM, and I don't really care about any custom ROMs.
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Is This root for AT&T Safe to do?

This is a root I recently came across online by a dev. I'm new to android so wanted to make sure this is safe to perform on my AT&T Note 3? Any suggestions. Go to this link to see the root provided: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422

check this thread your question has been answered there, i linked to the particular post

Designgears is a great dev. If he says it's safe then it's safe.
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As long as you understand what you are doing at each step of instructions, it's safe. DG never goes wrong.
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mehdi_s82 said:
As long as you understand what you are doing at each step of instructions, it's safe. DG never goes wrong.
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Agreed. I don't understand what to do hence why I have not rooted yet. Once I read and re-read all these subjects then I may give it a shot.

Does anyone know if this root method will prevent future OTA updates? I had my Note 2 rooted and had to go through hell and high water to search and install rooted/deodexed updates each time they were pushed out, as a result of rooting the device.

uhwarrior6608 said:
Does anyone know if this root method will prevent future OTA updates? I had my Note 2 rooted and had to go through hell and high water to search and install rooted/deodexed updates each time they were pushed out, as a result of rooting the device.
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Rooting won't stop the updates but it will allow you to install titanium backup and freeze the services that the updates rely on.

You just have to remove the ota app. It's only an app on pretty much all android phones that actually controls ota updates.
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Thanks for the responses. To clarify... I *want* OTA updates. I don't mind the stock ROMs (as long as I have root to freeze bloatware) pushed from AT&T. Note 2 rooted changed the device to "modified" and when OTA updates were available, they could not be downloaded or installed. Hence, I had to search for stock ROMs that had been rooted and deodexed.

kitsinni said:
Rooting won't stop the updates but it will allow you to install titanium backup and freeze the services that the updates rely on.
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actually.... Root de la Vega should stop ota updates already because it has a build number that samsung should never release a ota for.

To root or not to root!

Ok so i just go the galaxy gear i have already been doing alot of research on the watch. I have been debating if i should root it or not cause NULL rom looks really good for what i want to do with it..
Can some one help me find a way to back up the gear if i decided down the road to go completely back to stock?
has any one had any problems running NULL?
would you recommend doing it?
And where is the best guide to follow?

Very easy, it does require you to root the device. Once rooted, download TWRP for Galaxy Gear and flash it using ODIN. There, you can create a backup of your rooted stock firmware.
Another thing you can do is download the official firmware from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463743), and then flash that using ODIN, that will return you to 100% stock without root.
Good luck, I'm having tons of fun modifying my Gear, been able to increase the volume on it during calls.

Oscar_Romero said:
Very easy, it does require you to root the device. Once rooted, download TWRP for Galaxy Gear and flash it using ODIN. There, you can create a backup of your rooted stock firmware.
Another thing you can do is download the official firmware from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463743), and then flash that using ODIN, that will return you to 100% stock without root.
Good luck, I'm having tons of fun modifying my Gear, been able to increase the volume on it during calls.
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Great post mate any chance you can talk us through the in call volume mod you used? Tia
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I'm still trying to decide myself. I don't wanna lose any of the watch functions though if I flash null
Update : I think I will try null when I get home. Seems there's some work around for missing function like double tap for setting. Can't wait.
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3vo3d said:
Great post mate any chance you can talk us through the in call volume mod you used? Tia
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I might create a thread later on today if my account allows me to. It's the same concept as the Galaxy S3 and Note 2 of modifying the Default_gain.config file in the root files. Found in "/system/etc/" folder.

I got root access but stopped there....all my devices bar my note 2(for G Gear reasons) are rooted with custom ROMs but I'm not sure if I should install Null or leave as is...I guess it is a question of opinions but is it worth doing? What are the top things you can now do that were not possible before, which are also worth doing/practical on a wearable? Thanks for any responses....I need reasons to go the next step!!!
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I didn't like the rom personally. I couldn't use the Internet because my phone don't have bluetooth Internet or whatever that option is. The dial pad for Nova is all bunched together making the call button untouchable. So for me it's pretty much useless
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I think the rom is like something you'd use on a phone. Gives you a notification bar. Internet (if have a way to use it) playstore. Both Nova and touchwiz launchers.
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I was on the fence about rooting at first, but I jumped and flashed null. Let me tell you I am so glad I did. Battery life and more options is great! And knowing it is super easy to go back to stock is awesome. Although I don't see a reason to. Null with free fall theme is the way to go.
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