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Internet Censorship Bill - CALL/WRITE your representatives!

I didn't see a post for this elsewhere (though some may recall that I have an exceptional ability to miss the obvious ), and you will not hear about this on the news, and it's barely even being covered in print or online. I'm usually too much of a cynic to bother with this sort of activism but this is a big deal, so please grant me 5 minutes of your time; you won't regret it.
The big deal? The "Stop Online Piracy Act" (SOPA). Well wait now, that doesn't sound so bad. We all download music for free here and there, maybe use an "extended trial" of Photoshop, but we know that piracy is technically stealing...so this can't be that bad, right? Wrong. Horribly wrong.
The fact that no news agency is covering this is absolutely insane. We criticize countries like China and Iran for censorship, but at least they don't attempt to conceal it within a vague anti-piracy bill. It is no exaggeration to say that this is one of the most significant bills to come through congress in the past decade, and most people don't even know it exists; much less that discussion began on it today. Of those that do know about it, half of them don't understand why it's a bad thing because H.R.3261 has such an innocuous name (it is also called the Protect IP Act of 2011 in the Senate). Don't be fooled.
"American Censorship Day" - Information on the Internet Blacklist Bills​I urge you to take the time to educate yourself on H.R.3261 "SOPA" and write and/or call your Senators and Congress(wo)men! I guarantee if you spend 10 minutes reading about this, you will understand why I'm using an annoyingly large, bright red font.
The Wikipedia Article has a brief section ("Supporters") that shows--in a nutshell--how some politicians are deceptively framing this as a "pro-jobs" bill, among other pleasant sounding things; this couldn't be further from the truth. This is, in a manner of speaking, trying to apply archaic copyright laws to a 21st century Internet, rather than taking the effort to rewrite the copyright laws to make sense in the modern world.
You can find a lot of information explained very well at "American Censorship Day" website (scroll down past the petition), and I would encourage you to do your own research as well. Sign the petition if you want, but really, it is considerably more effective to call or write (or both!) your representatives.
A few more good links:
"Contacting The Congress" - Easily lookup the names/contact information of your Reps/Senators.
SOPA Wikipedia Article - References - These references link to a variety of websites/articles that are both for and against this bill. I would like to personally point out how most of those in support are entities of a political nature, while those against are largely non-political technology-oriented entities.
Full Text of H.R.3261 [PDF] - A relatively "short" 78 pages.
Hearing Information - House Judiciary Committee - This bill is on "the fastrack," meaning its authors are trying to push it through as quickly as possible...This hearing is where the bill began it's journey today (11/16/11).
I thank you for taking the time to read this; if you choose to reply to this thread, bash me as much as you like, but please keep your responses to each other civil.
Alright, back to rooting my Revo (before doing so is a felony ).
Sincerely,
James

Good stuff the masses don't even realize how important this is
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Basically when this bill passes we have no freedom of speech on the internets. The US government can block websites hosted on servers outside it's borders. And you can get sued for having a song playing on the radio heard in your video posted online.

jaszek said:
Basically when this bill passes we have no freedom of speech on the internets. The US government can block websites hosted on servers outside it's borders. And you can get sued for having a song playing on the radio heard in your video posted online.
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This is ridiculous we must stop them!
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Must stop big brother government before it's too late!

Its getting near time for the guns to come out boys...
Brb, there are strange men in suits at my door....
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Great Job was about to post something about this on here but you beat me to it anyway here are some more links to articles,info and petitions:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-segal/stop-the-internet-blackli_b_739836.html
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http://americancensorship.org/
http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/*
http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/?referring_akid=a2655379.916925._mXAo4&source=auto-taf
P.S keep spreading the word guys!

I think XDA should censor their logo/ and or have the javascript popup to support it http://americancensorship.org/
I have done it to my website for support purposes. come on guys we need this to be halted! So if you have a website/ blog please join the movement and censor your website for a day!

I guess this is the day when we finally found out for sure that govenments can be bought and paid for by greedy corporations.
You are now no longer being ruled by an elected body, but by a fat-cat in a pin-stripe suit.
This is the new world order i guess.

Very well written. I know quite a bit about this topic, since we will get something called "vorratsdatenspeicherung" where I live (austria). Basically The government logs your internet connection and it logs when and who you call/write a sms/ send an email and where you were by doing that.
Should be published on the portal!
I do what i want, because I can.

THIS IS CRAZY

This has to be one of those interpretation of the law issues though surely? I mean... you can't be prosecuted for lying on a dating profile about your height, weight, age etc. There'd be nobody left on match.com

Mykocorum said:
This has to be one of those interpretation of the law issues though surely? I mean... you can't be prosecuted for lying on a dating profile about your height, weight, age etc. There'd be nobody left on match.com
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The way the law is written does allow for scenarios like the one you propose. The retort of the politicians is, "We won't ever (ab)use this power for doing stuff like that, never ever." I don't know about you, but that's not too reassuring for me. If it's not abused now by these politicians, it'll be abused later by future politicians. Not to mention the precedent it sets...Once you give the government a little bit of control, it becomes very easy for them to get a lot of control.
Even if this were solely an interpretation of the law issue I'd still be against it, because Congress shouldn't be writing laws that can be so easily misinterpreted.
A link to the full text is up there, I plan on reading it tomorrow.

I totally agree the law should be written so that there is no room for interpretation.. you know if what you are doing is illegal from day one, ignorance is not a defence, but as devils advocate the counter is that you end up with thousands of very specific laws for hundreds of situations whilst occurrences the lawmakers didn't think of at the time are getting through loopholes and running away.
Circumstantially you should really be able to use the end purpose of why you are doing what you are doing as to the criminality of what's going down. I don't think anyone on this board would argue that a 40 year old man pretending to be a 13 year old girl on a forum or website to talk to other teenagers should be made illegal and is a very wrong thing - but who hasn't said they are two inches taller on a dating profile or put their build down as "athletic" rather than "a few extra pounds"

Bear in mind that the UK equivalent to this, the 'Digital Economy Act' was passed into law some time ago with barely a whimper of protest. Just like ProtectIP, it was kept quiet and barely reported on until it was too late. We just woke up one morning to draconian new laws. Again, it was bought and paid for by big media.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010
I doubt anything can be done to stop the same happening in the US, but perhaps enough pressure can be brought to bear to force some changes to the act. At least you guys have advanced warning to do something about it.
Edit: Big Content stacks Senate Committee
"US Senators have done their level best to give Big Content the law it wants to basically lock up citizens who might think of piracy or file sharing without having to worry about that pesky thing called constitution. The House Judiciary Committee today held an important hearing on the Stop Online Piracy Act but only those witnesses who would not object to the law being invited. This was designed to give the impression that all the witnesses were in favour of the law."

Bump this baby. Also voted for frontpage!
I do what i want, because I can.

DirkGently said:
Bear in mind that the UK equivalent to this, the 'Digital Economy Act' was passed into law some time ago with barely a whimper of protest. Just like ProtectIP, it was kept quiet and barely reported on until it was too late. We just woke up one morning to draconian new laws. Again, it was bought and paid for by big media.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010
I doubt anything can be done to stop the same happening in the US, but perhaps enough pressure can be brought to bear to force some changes to the act. At least you guys have advanced warning to do something about it.
Edit: Big Content stacks Senate Committee
"US Senators have done their level best to give Big Content the law it wants to basically lock up citizens who might think of piracy or file sharing without having to worry about that pesky thing called constitution. The House Judiciary Committee today held an important hearing on the Stop Online Piracy Act but only those witnesses who would not object to the law being invited. This was designed to give the impression that all the witnesses were in favour of the law."
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Thanks for posting this...It's absolutely crazy...I'm sure they'll find a way to completely circumvent a public hearing that gives opponents a chance to speak throughout the entire process.

jamRwoo said:
Thanks for posting this...It's absolutely crazy...I'm sure they'll find a way to completely circumvent a public hearing that gives opponents a chance to speak throughout the entire process.
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As always, the people can have a say.. at the ballot box!
I'm pleased to report that the government that introduced the DEA in the UK, lost in the next election shortly afterwards. (After being in power for thirteen years).
Karma b*tches!

Bumping this due to some developments...
Well, this is finally seeing the light of day and getting coverage by some news agencies; caught these articles on Drudge Report.
I just want to say that I hope Chris Dodd dies in a fire. Slowly. FYI: He's a former Senator spearheading this bill AND the new head of the MPAA. Primarily by attempting to bribe members of Congress. Gotta love that the Hollywood/Record Label lobbyists are getting all the airtime, while the people who actually understand this stuff are being silenced as much as possible.
Not too late to call/write your representatives. You can also share these links with your friends...tweet them, facebook them, reddit them, do whatever. If these links don't scare the living s**t out of you, well...idk...too many benzos perhaps. Feel free to copy this post and use it wherever, if you wish.
All of these articles are great and cover a different aspect (with some overlap) of the consequences of this legislation. Props to The Hill for giving this so much coverage; glad someone's doing it.
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MPAA Head Chris Dodd on Online Censorship Bill: China's the Model -- http://bit.ly/u7kgXy
"When the Chinese told Google that they had to block sites or they couldn't do [business] in their country, they managed to figure out how to block sites."
Google chairman says online piracy bill would 'criminalize' the Internet -- http://bit.ly/tRWEnj
"It's not a good thing. I understand the goal of what SOPA and PIPA are trying to do," Schmidt said of the Senate counterpart bill, the Protect IP Act. "Their goal is reasonable, their mechanism is terrible. They should not criminalize the intermediaries. They should go after the people that are violating the law."
Internet piracy bill: A free speech 'kill switch' -- http://bit.ly/tY6o6f
Consider this: Under the proposed legislation all that’s required for government to shutdown a specific website is the mere accusation that the site unlawfully featured copyrighted content. Such an accusation need not be proven – or even accompanied by probable cause. All that an accuser (or competitor) needs to do in order to obtain injunctive relief is point the finger at a website.
Legal expert says online piracy bill is unconstitutional -- http://bit.ly/tNBUDH
"Conceivably, an entire website containing tens of thousands of pages could be targeted if only a single page were accused of infringement," Tribe writes. "Such an approach would create severe practical problems for sites with substantial user-generated content, such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, and for blogs that allow users to post videos, photos, and other materials."
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God, do I hate politicians.
P.S. For those interested in a more detailed analysis of how this is a flagrant violation of free speech: Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor and Supreme Court advocate, wrote a memo detailing how SOPA does exactly that -- http://scr.bi/sFSRBg

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Google appeal denied, Google to implement patch to Google Now to cut functionality

So if you cruise over to phandroid you will find this article that states that Google lost their appeal to lift the ban on the sale of the Galaxy Nexus due to Google Now infringement on Apple patents. Notably, the patent on voice search for phone applications a la Siri. The article states Google will be rolling out an update that will limit Google Now voice searches to web related content only. What a farce! Since this is a core Jellybean feature, I'm speculating that this will affect the Nexus 7 as well.
Will these patent infringement tactics from Apple ever end?
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Link please?

http://phandroid.com/2012/07/03/gal...samsung-and-google-working-on-software-patch/
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136102/google-samsung-software-update-galaxy-nexus-infringement

funkyboy1281 said:
http://phandroid.com/2012/07/03/gal...samsung-and-google-working-on-software-patch/
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136102/google-samsung-software-update-galaxy-nexus-infringement
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Confused, didn't Apple file this suit before Jelly Bean was even announced? How can it block google Now? Are you sure?
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Censura_Umbra said:
Confused, didn't Apple file this suit before Jelly Bean was even announced? How can it block google Now? Are you sure?
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Oh, but it only prevents Google now from pulling from contacts and apps. So apparently, you won't be able to say Call Suzy. Or text Mary. Or play music.
Hopefully will still be able to say Open Phone
And the cards are still there (for weather sports traffic etc)
And you know Devs will bring the functionality back so no worries ( I already have the full Google now sans voice search and it is pretty neat.

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Much of the infringement spat has related to Android's use of a unified search interface, but according to Google the standout feature of Android 4.1 — Google Now — will be safe when 4.1 arrives for the general public. "This just relates to the Galaxy Nexus," the spokesperson told us, "and not a product on the Galaxy Nexus."

Well it was actually Apple and Samsung in the lawsuit and its not banned yet Apple still has to pay close 100 million dollars for damages that Samsung might face for lost sales if Apple actually loses the case. There is no ruling that the Galaxy Nexus does violate Apples Patents just that it might and Apple wants the sales stopped until a ruling has been made. The Patch is Googles oh $#!7 button just in case it does get banned, to prevent loss of sales during the no doubt long and drawn out court process to come if Apple does Dish out the money.
I feel like Apple will back down and not dish out the 100 million though, because if the push that button its only a matter of time before one of these companies pulls a patent of there own that can get the iProduct line banned too. The US software patent system is pretty messed up right now.

Cel1084 said:
I feel like Apple will back down and not dish out the 100 million though, because if the push that button its only a matter of time before one of these companies pulls a patent of there own that can get the iProduct line banned too. The US software patent system is pretty messed up right now.
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Apple has already paid the 95 million dollars for the bond. The injuction is officially in effect. http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3136023/samsung-request-stay-galaxy-nexus-injunction-denied-Apple
If you go to the google play store, you can no longer order the Galaxy Nexus, atleast until further notice.

F me. I just ordered two nexus 7s and was planning on ordering a gnex tomorrow. Hope this doesn't affect the local search as android had that before with the vlingo powered search aka svoice for siii even....
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This Patented VS Opensource Software is a real mess. The problem is the Nature of Opensource make it hard to log exact dates and who owns the rights, and the patent office is sure as hell not going to check all the opensource software before issuing a patent.
Hell Even the GNU guy thinks the Linux guy stole his stuff and didn't give him credit, or rather that programmers unknowingly integrated the two. Though He just seem more upset he didn't create working kernel first and isn't getting the credit he's due.
Anyway this brings up a question, how is Opensource software log and dated in case a company like Apple does file a penitent for something that is previously opensource, and how does one prove it pre-existed the patent?
And check out this video from 1994

F*** apple. Why can't they just use their money to create better products instead of suing everybody else? Just my two cents...
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kattara said:
F*** apple. Why can't they just use their money to create better products instead of suing everybody else? Just my two cents...
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$95+ million for some hurt feelings. Society is disgusting. Apple is a money making and wasting cult. This country is broke and these guys are feuding over patents. Unbelievable.
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"Us, at apple, are donating 90 million to charity, in order to save billions of lives in poverty countries.
Oh, wait. Samsung are selling more devices than us? Lets get them sued instead!"

I have faith in the people on this forum that something will be worked out to re-enable this.
And I really hope that thing involves putting '#boycottApple=True" in a configuration file somewhere.

From the context of the article it seems like it will only affect the Galaxy Nexus. I hope it doesn't get pushed to our tablets as well. I'm sure our devs could find a way around it but the thing is they shouldn't have to because Apple is throwing a hissy fit.
If Apple spent as much time actually working on competing with Android instead of attempting to kill it (which will never happen) then they might actually innovate or invent something new for once. I'm so annoyed at how broken the patent system is when it comes to software.
Anyone have any further evidence or at least what they think will happen when it comes to the Nexus 7 and this ordeal? Will we also get stripped of functionality?

Doesn't affect the Nexus 7 or Google Now. But you can no longer use the search button to search apps on your phone. Because for some reason you can patent that.
Edit- stupid spelling errors!

How STUPID. Well The late Steve Jobs said he was ready to use every dime apple had to destroy Google. I guess his legacy lives on.
Seems like dumb thing to be able to patent.
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Doesn't effect the Nexus 7 or Google Now. But you can no longer use the search button to search apps on your phone. Because for some reason you can patent that.
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Yeah er..
I don't think this has anything to do with googre nao, but the default search.
Although you can bet that they'll try to go after that next.

Personally I expect the ban to lifted on appeal anyway. If it doesn't then this will se t a worrying precedent in the US courts and could open the floodgates to dozens of these petty cases.
From what I understand this change shouldn't effect the functionality of Google Now as the dispute is focused on the Galaxy Nexus product NOT the android system itself.

Some guy on Phandroid suggested everyone should call Apple customer support at the same time and ask why they can't order a Galaxy Nexus. I'm normally against actions like that, but the lack of an Apple twitter to vent frustration on is killing me.

I wanna see how this turns out.

I think Nexus 4 availability is important to Google's Growth and Popularity

I personally think it is damaging to Google/Android that so many people didn't get the Nexus 4. Perhaps not damaging right away, but this phone is a hot seller, demand has shown so, not to mention it's a Nexus. Finally even the not-techy users and people switching from iPhone will finally have access that is a Nexus device with a good spec and frequent updates. (Now I know that there have been previous Nexus devices but overall they were not nearly as attractive of an option as this device, I think we can all agree.)
This phone will allow people to see Android in its current most updated state, without even having to throw on a leaked or custom ROM, like you frequently have to do with a Non-Nexus device, in order to just stay current with Android.
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The funny thing is.. this device is great for DEV's, great for modding/custom ROM's etc... but it's ACTUALLY ALSO good for people who don't want to have to search for leaked updates/newer custom ROM's etc because it has OTA updates frequently/right away, so it's simple for them to stay current with Android, without having to think or research anything. So this phone has two overall target markets IMO.
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I can't tell you how many people I know personally, that bought into Android and ditched it for an iPhone because they bought a Non-Nexus device that never received updates and was stuck on an old version of Android for FAR TOO LONG.. (in other words, garbage..)
We all know stock Android has come a long way in the last year. Simply too many people have been discouraged from Android with the Non-Nexus experience/fragmentation/lack of updates on other devices.
http://cultofandroid.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com
If Google flooded this phone to the market (like they should have), because of the attractive price point, spec etc. I personally think that it would capture so many more potential users, who perhaps would not have taken the leap toward Android ordinarily, or maybe to Android but not Nexus - And that's what is important. Little do many know how good the Nexus experience is, until they experience it for themselves. It will change their perspective of Android IMO. The Nexus experience and frequent updates, is what will give Android a really good name. Especially with the features of an OS like Android 4.2 and everything since 4.0. (which have been nothing short of amazing)
Now of course people will still be able to buy this phone is due time, and it's not the end of the world, but time and technology move quick. People don't tend to wait, especially when there are so many other options. And how do we know when they next batches are going to be released? could be 2 weeks? 3 days? 1 month? more? Will it sell out again? Maybe.
Nexus phones come out every year. Therefore every week, or month that passes that these users don't have this phone in their hands, the perceived value of the device for the end user will drop, because it will simply be that much less time until the next Nexus is released.
What I'm really getting at here is that I think it would be in Google's best interest to release more Nexus 4 phones as soon as possible. Simply as a good marketing strategy/"seed for growth" for Android. Making it a reality that Nexus phones will go into the hands of many more users, will be the eye-opener for people to realize Android is the best mobile operating system currently. Especially when I can see on this board alone that many people are switching from Non-Nexus devices to this Nexus. Sadly, other Non-Nexus devices won't stand true to this name, because it's not up to Google to update them, it's mostly up to the manufacturers and service providers to release updates, which as we know doesn't always go ahead as planned.
If I was standing behind Google Android, I know what I would do.

Every point in your post would be irrelevant if the release datr was pushed back. So just image the release date is in 2 weeks and you shall be happy, no?
Also, logistic is not advanced enough to be able to warehouse 30million unit and ship them all in 2 days.
Seriously, put yourself in the shoes of someone in an alternate world where the release was like the 25th. It really won't make you cry as much.

MatAuc12 said:
Every point in your post would be irrelevant if the release datr was pushed back. So just image the release date is in 2 weeks and you shall be happy, no?
Also, logistic is not advanced enough to be able to warehouse 30million unit and ship them all in 2 days.
Seriously, put yourself in the shoes of someone in an alternate world where the release was like the 25th. It really won't make you cry as much.
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30 mil units lol.. buddy u clearly haven't understood possibly how little devices they had stocked.
talking about a later release date and a launch date that completely failed are two completely different things, you're clearly missing the point here

UKROB86 said:
If I was standing behind Google Android, I know what I would do.
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We don't. What would you do? You'd make more devices appear out of thin air?
Your entire argument is based around the conspiracy theory that Google is not trying to do whatever they can as fast as they can. You don't know that, you can't know that. They (and LG) can only produce devices so fast.
Although hype and demand are great, every time you have a stock-out situation, you potentially lose a sale. People get annoyed, they change their minds, or they spend their money on something else.
As far as I'm concerned, money in hand today is better than potential future sales.

man, a lot of butt hurt people who didn't get the Nexus 4 are spewing rage threads left and right.
Demand > Supply.

TheFiveDots said:
We don't. What would you do? You'd make more devices appear out of thin air?
Your entire argument is based around the conspiracy theory that Google is not trying to do whatever they can as fast as they can. You don't know that, you can't know that. They (and LG) can only produce devices so fast.
Although hype and demand are great, every time you have a stock-out situation, you potentially lose a sale. People get annoyed, they change their minds, or they spend their money on something else.
As far as I'm concerned, money in hand today is better than potential future sales.
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oh because mass production facilities in this day and age, cannot provide more devices than what Google offered on launch?! come on.. look at how many iPhones can sell on a launch. They had the power to make more devices, and they could have taken preorders, and then still claimed "sold out" on the launch day if they really wanted to pull the "marketing scheme"

UKROB86 said:
oh because mass production facilities in this day and age, cannot provide more devices than what Google offered on launch?! come on.. look at how many iPhones can sell on a launch. They had the power to make more devices, and they could have taken preorders, and then still claim "sold out" on the launch day if they really wanted to pull the "marketing scheme"
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None of that is valid without evidence of exactly how many devices Google had prepared for launch. And if it was a unreasonably low amount, what factors impacted the availability of additional units.

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TheFiveDots said:
None of that is valid without evidence of exactly how many devices Google had prepared for launch. And if it was a unreasonably low amount, what factors impacted the availability of additional units.
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my point was not what factors impacted the availability of additional units, but the fact that when people are delayed a product with only a 1-year useful life span with it's successor only 1 year away, many will start looking elsewhere.
Plus if you read all what I wrote, I was explaining the importance of putting Nexus phones in the hands of as many users as possible, so they don't have to be disappointed with a non-Nexus device and lack of updates again...
We all know Google had the power to release more units on launch date. Regardless of how many units they did or didn't release.

UKROB86 said:
my point was not what factors impacted the availability of additional units, but the fact that when people are delayed a product with only a 1-year useful life span with it's successor only 1 year away, many will start looking elsewhere.
Plus if you read all what I wrote, I was explaining the importance of putting Nexus phones in the hands of as many users as possible, so they don't have to be disappointed with a non-Nexus device and lack of updates again...
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I agree that getting a Nexus device in the hands of as many people as possible is necessary for Android's success. Definitely. And frankly I'm quite convinced that Google does not care about the other players in the Android market at this point or about the openness, etc. of Android nearly as much as people think (or would like to think). They've got one thing in their sights: Apple. And they'd be crazy not to. They are well aware that 35 different Android phones all poorly-skinned and slowly updated is never going to compete. The problem with these forums is developers think they sell phones. They don't. They are the 1%. Consumers don't care about many, many of the things you look for in a phone but they buy the most of them while being the least vocal. They are the money.
What I disagree with is that the implication that Google intentionally did not have enough units on hand. Forecasting supply and demand is very difficult, and the fastest way to sink the ship is to have expensive hardware laying around - especially, like you said, when that hardware only has a 1-year lifespan and you're already selling it at a discount.

TheFiveDots said:
I agree that getting a Nexus device in the hands of as many people as possible is necessary for Android's success. Definitely. And frankly I'm quite convinced that Google does not care about the other players in the Android market at this point or about the openness, etc. of Android nearly as much as people think (or would like to think). They've got one thing in their sights: Apple. And they'd be crazy not to. They are well aware that 35 different Android phones all poorly-skinned and slowly updated is never going to compete. The problem with these forums is developers think they sell phones. They don't. They are the 1%. Consumers don't care about many, many of the things you look for in a phone but they buy the most of them while being the least vocal. They are the money.
What I disagree with is that the implication that Google intentionally did not have enough units on hand. Forecasting supply and demand is very difficult, and the fastest way to sink the ship is to have expensive hardware laying around - especially, like you said, when that hardware only has a 1-year lifespan and you're already selling it at a discount.
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Firstly, glad to see you agree that Nexus devices are the key to Androids success.
I see your points on having over-stock can be detrimental to a companies success, however pre-orders can forecast sales extremely accurately. After-all it's a pre-order.
And in regards to your comments on developers buying phones, being nothing but a small percent.. I agree. BUT I was emphasizing how I think that with this Nexus device, finally we do have a device that has many of the features that the average consumers do look for in a phone, therefore potentially generating massive amounts of money for Google, if they had understood that this phone is no longer targeting only a niche market of dev's. And quite frankly I think it was obvious to see that this device had reached out to more target markets than prior Nexus devices, it doesn't take Einstein to figure that one out. And again, pre-orders would tell us just that.

I doubt Google will care what a couple of impatient little babies are complaining about. "I couldnt order the new phone the first day it came out and everyone tried to order at the same time."

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I doubt Google will care what a couple of impatient little babies are complaining about. "I couldnt order the new phone the first day it came out and everyone tried to order at the same time."
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lol somebody didn't read the first post, AT ALL.

UKROB86 said:
I see your points on having over-stock can be detrimental to a companies success, however pre-orders can forecast sales extremely accurately. After-all it's a pre-order.
And in regards to the comments on developers buying phones, I was emphasizing how I think that with this Nexus device, finally we do have a device that has many of the features that the average consumers do look for in a phone, therefore potentially generating massive amounts of money for Google, if they understood that this phone is no longer targeting only a niche market of dev's. And quite frankly I think it was obvious to see that this device had reached out to more target markets than prior Nexus devices, it doesn't take Einstein to figure that one out.
And again, pre-orders would tell us just that.
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Sorry, the comments about developers were mostly a personal rant. I get frustrated when people are too close to the issue to fully see it. Ironically, while vanilla Android and a Nexus device are the most developer-friendly, the are most the most consumer-friendly too. When I moved to CM10 on my S3, I found a) the interface more pleasing and much more cohesive, b) easier to navigate. Samsung really went out of their to bury options and settings in TouchWiz and their idea of pleasing interface design is questionable. Must be painful for their developers to actively make something less appealing and more complicated. I digress.
I do feel that splitting stock between pre-orders and "walk-up" sales would've been a good strategy. Especially because you could've had devices in peoples hands for launch day, which would've meant an actual launch day rather than just being available to purchase -- which isn't excited at all from a marketing standpoint.

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I do feel that splitting stock between pre-orders and "walk-up" sales would've been a good strategy. Especially because you could've had devices in peoples hands for launch day, which would've meant an actual launch day rather than just being available to purchase -- which isn't excited at all from a marketing standpoint.
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This is one of the things that failed before with the N7 release. Some stores jumped the gun and started selling earlier than Google sent out preorders.
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gbroon said:
This is one of the things that failed before with the N7 release. Some stores jumped the gun and started selling earlier than Google sent out preorders.
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Not talking about stores. Was more of along the lines that if they take pre-orders in October with the release day being November 13th, they ship pre-orders with 2-day shipping on the 11th. Walk-up online sales begin on the 13th, as well as in-store sales where applicable. Sure, some people may get a phone a day early or a day late, but it's more exciting than nobody getting a phone.
Stores are entrusted to release inventory at certain times frequently, that's a whole different issue.

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Sorry, the comments about developers were mostly a personal rant. I get frustrated when people are too close to the issue to fully see it. Ironically, while vanilla Android and a Nexus device are the most developer-friendly, the are most the most consumer-friendly too. When I moved to CM10 on my S3, I found a) the interface more pleasing and much more cohesive, b) easier to navigate. Samsung really went out of their to bury options and settings in TouchWiz and their idea of pleasing interface design is questionable. Must be painful for their developers to actively make something less appealing and more complicated. I digress.
I do feel that splitting stock between pre-orders and "walk-up" sales would've been a good strategy. Especially because you could've had devices in peoples hands for launch day, which would've meant an actual launch day rather than just being available to purchase -- which isn't excited at all from a marketing standpoint.
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Exactly what I was trying to say. Vanilla devices being more Dev-friendly AND more Consumer-friendly. Well said. This is why it is so important to make these devices available to consumers.
Pre-orders are definitely the way to go to gauge consumer demand, especially when you can start pre-orders a month in advance.

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oh because mass production facilities in this day and age, cannot provide more devices than what Google offered on launch?! come on.. look at how many iPhones can sell on a launch. They had the power to make more devices, and they could have taken preorders, and then still claimed "sold out" on the launch day if they really wanted to pull the "marketing scheme"
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Do you know that aside from the Sprint version, all the IP5 are on back order with a minimum waiting time of 2-3 weeks.
If Apple cant keep the in stock, what makes you think that Google could??
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UKROB86 said:
Exactly what I was trying to say. Vanilla devices being more Dev-friendly AND more Consumer-friendly. Well said. This is why it is so important to make these devices available to consumers.
Pre-orders are definitely the way to go to gauge consumer demand, especially when you can start pre-orders a month in advance.
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Even if you pre-ordered that doesn't guaranteed that will be enough for every one, look @ the IP5 for proof of that.
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SIGUEL said:
Do you know that aside from the Sprint version, all the IP5 are on back order with a minimum waiting time of 2-3 weeks.
If Apple cant keep the in stock, what makes you think that Google could??
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Even if you pre-ordered that doesn't guaranteed that will be enough for every one, look @ the IP5 for proof of that.
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Well, to be fair, the iPhone 5 and Nexus 4 are in different leagues in terms of demand. And Google has a hardware partner with years of experience in manufacturing and delivering high-volume electronic goods.
And simple -- limit pre-orders to your actual supply or a fraction thereof.

It's honestly been one day since the release. If you don't get a product on launch day it doesn't mean that the company is failing >.>

Google: Next Batch in 3 Weeks

It's official. Wait times for the next batch is 3 weeks.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/nexus-4-backordered/
Thank you for your recent purchase on Google Play. Due to overwhelming demand, your Nexus 4 is on backorder and is expected to ship within three weeks. We'll send you a notification when your order has shipped and will credit the shipping charges.
To check the status of your order at any time, visit the link below: https://wallet.google.com/manage/#transactions
If you would prefer to cancel your order, please reply to this email and our team will assist you. Or you can cancel your order using our online tool. Please follow the instructions found here:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2423477
We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you again for your order.
Thanks,
The Google Play Team
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So pretty much anyone who hasn't been able to put in a order (like myself) are not going to be able to order the device for a long time.
Thanks for nothing LG.

I guess I'm stuck phoneless for 3 weeks, or whenever the next batch will be availabe...
But I am also sort of glad that I wasn't able to get my order in so we could see if Google will add the Nexus 4 to AOSP as well as fix up some of the thermal issues.

Question for you... do you even read forums before making a new thread? The email you just quoted has been posted numerous times...
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c_86 said:
Question for you... do you even read forums before making a new thread? The email you just quoted has been posted numerous times...
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It deserves it's own thread.

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It deserves it's own thread.
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It really doesn't. Also the E-mail doesn't say what you seem to think it does. Within 3 weeks means any time from today up untill 3 weeks. I'm not overly optomistic about the time frame myself but the thread title is still misleading at best.

your thread created privileges should be taken away...

Good thing I didnt sell my GNex yet.

Why are ppl in the states so crazy to get it even at the price of over $600 at ebay nearly double...can't they wait for the next wave just few weeks ahead..most other country don't even have play store to purchase that may sound reasonable
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I am totally at a loss with Google on this? Total and epic failure from a company that prides itself on it's meticulous attention to detail and Engineers every little thing. How the hell am I supposed t believe that the company that can crunch massive data sets, route the quickest path to ones home, serve massive amounts of AD's and multimedia can blow it in running a simple Cart driven eCommerce business and fail to anticipate all these fairly obvious headaches coming to light. It really boggles the mind?
I got the Backorder letter too, but even that was very vague and provides no level of detail that can be useful. Already there is conflicting stories of folks getting the bo letter and a shipment letter, some who made two separate orders are left wondering which order is bo'd?
If I had to think out loud, I would surmise that in the effort of cutting costs down for this product they used there F-Team of managers for this product launch ... seriously!
*A notification system that failed to notify!
*No coherent product launch time (Midnight? 9EST? 9PST?) even when we fished around for details and the rumour mill had it at 9PST the damn store opened 30minutes earlier.
*No clear communication on stock levels
*No pre-order ... my god how stupid are the folks who ran this botched job!
*Not enough inventory on hand
*No cart limits like 1 per person or 2 per person ... I could add 100 to my cart and the thing would go through
*No cart queuing/ reserving/ holding mechanism ... ticketmaster holds a ticket for 5-10 minutes the instant it lands on your cart
*Cart/ Site kept crashing
*They didn't update the site to sold-out until late at night leading to the F5 phenomena, with people wasting time without knowing whether they can make an order or not ... fully knowing anyone after the initial 10 minutes after opening the Play store would be on backorder ... might as well keep selling now it makes no more difference at this point at least alleviate those who can't purchase now to join a queue and keep selling. What will happen now is they will launch in spurts resulting in the same level of chaos ... let people join the queue now if they will be backordered in anycase.
*For those of us who got the chance to order the assumption was that they would be able to make a shipment ... no reason why the system would fluctuate from in stock to of stock during the nightmare purchase with all the obstacles it had ... WHY THE HELL DID WE GET BO'd! If there system wasn't as one to one as it seemed with all it's rigidity in how much you can add to cart and it failing during purchase because it became out of stock ... then how the hell did you guys oversell?
No sincere apology, no corrective actions are being laid out ... and that token free shipping in no way salvages this horribly broken Play Store. Heads have to roll ... seriously! I've read stories of better managers/ CEO's, project leads being fired for so little ... the folks who have done an outstanding job of tarnishing the Google brand and have been doing so seeing that this type of nonsense is not new with those familiar with the Play Store ... I am totally new to the Android verse coming from WP7.5, BB7, and Maemo ... this first impression of how Google runs this store is not what I always imagined of Google which I love and use from Email to Google+ ... I even enjoyed GWave, I put up with the Buzz mess up ... but Play is such a horrible brand tarnishing experience and Google needs to improve there retail program or get out of it and let the pro's at Amazon handle it.
This is a joke, I can't believe it Google has been running a psy-ops campaign over at the Play Store to ruin there hard fought branding of Engineered Excellence. I hate the Apple verse and the perception that they created whatever is the next best thing when rather they made a incremental improvement on the natural progression of a product life cycle ... but give credit where it is due they are a behemoth when it comes to the retail experience and the level of customer service ... night and day difference in these experiences Google, please rectify it. It makes it silly to have a building full of the brightest people who can't attempt to sell something online when you dominate on the Internet... it is a running joke this Play Store. Heads must roll!

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It deserves it's own thread.
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Agreed with the others - this letter has been discussed ad nauseam in at least 2 other very large threads, so much so that one person that started another thread has already (as of earlier this afternoon) started a Google Docs spreadsheet where they are analyzing data entered by volunteers from this forum so that graphs and statistical analyses can be made correlating purchase time to shipping confirmation as well as how this data pertains to the email notification you wrote about.
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ryan92084 said:
It really doesn't. Also the E-mail doesn't say what you seem to think it does. Within 3 weeks means any time from today up untill 3 weeks. I'm not overly optomistic about the time frame myself but the thread title is still misleading at best.
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Yes I had been reading about people's experiences with this backorder email for several hours already, since it was distributed around 3:00-4:00pm EST this afternoon, and then I see this thread title, and obviously I had to assume that someone had some NEW information, linking to a story at Engadget where perhaps they had confirmed that no additional units would be shipped for at least 3 weeks. But then I find, it was just a useless rehash of news and information the rest of us have been looking at and discussing for nearly 7 hours in other threads.
WTF.

joeski27 said:
Agreed with the others - this letter has been discussed ad nauseam in at least 2 other very large threads, so much so that one person that started another thread has already (as of earlier this afternoon) started a Google Docs spreadsheet where they are analyzing data entered by volunteers from this forum so that graphs and statistical analyses can be made correlating purchase time to shipping confirmation as well as how this data pertains to the email notification you wrote about.
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Yes I had been reading about people's experiences with this backorder email for several hours already, since it was distributed around 3:00-4:00pm EST this afternoon, and then I see this thread title, and obviously I had to assume that someone had some NEW information, linking to a story at Engadget where perhaps they had confirmed that no additional units would be shipped for at least 3 weeks. But then I find, it was just a useless rehash of news and information the rest of us have been looking at and discussing for nearly 7 hours in other threads.
WTF.
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Yes but even backorders take "up to 3 weeks" (don't be optimistic). So people who haven't been able to order will obviously have to wait longer than that.

#firstworldproblems
x1000.
Get over it

De-Google-ing my Note 9

Hi guys. I'm starting this thread in hopes of sparking a conversation and a concerted effort to rid ourselves as users from the clutches of Google and other big tech companies. I am sick and tired of Google tracking me and attempting to force feed me ads on a daily send constant basis. Then selling my info to other companies such as Facebook. So, I have started down the path of decluttering (De-Google-ing) my device(s). I am primarily interested in securing my device as much as possible and protecting my privacy.
So far, I have reformatted my entire device to factory default settings installed and using F-Droid (FOSS) for all my apps. I use Yandex as my search engine (I am often to suggestions and recommendations) in the "private browser" app. I use Aurora instead of Google Play store, New Pipe for YouTube-ing, Frost for Facebookingand SlimSocial for Twitter. I have stopped using Google keyboard and any other Google apps. I have abandoned gmail and replaced it with proton mail instead. So far, no ads and as far as I can tell, no tracking. I have also installed a VPN and am using it religiously—Cyber Ghost, a $99 for 3 years subscription with support up to 8 devices.
However, I am still very much connected to Samsung for I am not privy as to whether or not Samsung is as sinister as Google and Facebook.
Again, I am open to all suggestions, corrections and recommendations. Thank you and I hope to engage with you all.

leave it up to them yandex russians to protect your privacy.
but seriously. the most dangerous thing you can do is acctualy think that the steps you take are really making your life private.
vpns just channel the traffic to an other end point and does the queries for you then sends the data encrypted to you.
the queries are still made on the www. account info and all things you store or access online is still accessible by the www. vpn companies just fool you into thinking that the data being relayed to you is the only weak link. plus the free ones mine your data.
best thing you can do is not use social media. its made to invade your privacy. its designed to fool you into giving as much of your personal life info as possible and sell your habits to add companies so they can in turn send you quatered adds.
the minute you use the internet you void your privacy regardless of how you think the measures you take are working or effective. and what are you going to do about the 100 and 1000's of companies being hacked and their data mined and sold every month? you cant do anything about that. plus its much better for hackers to get their info from a big company because you get much more than just 1 dude that does his banking online and chat every now and then.there is no money to be made from 1 individual.
if you think people are specifically after you, you are gravely being fooled by the vpn ad campaigns that have been poping up everywhere about "privacy".( they must hide the fact that they also get hacked very well.its just that the media hasint picked up on it yet)
anyways who want to waste time on an end user/device?
when again you just need to hack equifax like a few years back and you get the motherload instead.
all in all I've abandoned the thought of real privacy. its futile.( even abstinents dosen't work because companies and governments don't secure customer data correctly. and unfortunately if you are born, you must be branded and labeled and filed away.)
live your life. just know that what ever you do you can't escape big brother and your data from being leaked by the big companies that say that it is secured with them.
the whole infrastructure relies on them companies and the habits we have been embraining ourselves and our children with is the problem.. we live our lives intertwined with the services and devices that we take for granted and have clicked next next next through polices and consent forms for over 25 years now whithout even giving it a second though. we're in over our heads now and it is a little late to back out. this was al dine by design and all voluntarily. its crazy how marketing is evil.
a cabin in the woods is the easiest and most secure thing one can do. anything shy of that is a waste of time and a false feeling of privacy.
anyways I'm going around in circles now.
one thing for sure is that the criminals we think that we need cover from are not who we think they are.
they are the FCC dealing with big telcos, they are the big media giants spewing false information and fabricates facts. they are in our governments in the highest ranks pushing hidden agendas and most of all they are the big social media platforms remodeling our society each day under our noses at our expense.
but hey this is not new. the internet police is just tring to make you think it is and spend 9.99$ a month for a vpn lol
good luck.

I just stopped using as many Google apps as I can and switched over to MS Office apps and use Samsung services where I can too...

bober10113 said:
leave it up to them yandex russians to protect your privacy.
but seriously. the most dangerous thing you can do is acctualy think that the steps you take are really making your life private.
vpns just channel the traffic to an other end point and does the queries for you then sends the data encrypted to you.
the queries are still made on the www. account info and all things you store or access online is still accessible by the www. vpn companies just fool you into thinking that the data being relayed to you is the only weak link. plus the free ones mine your data.
best thing you can do is not use social media. its made to invade your privacy. its designed to fool you into giving as much of your personal life info as possible and sell your habits to add companies so they can in turn send you quatered adds.
the minute you use the internet you void your privacy regardless of how you think the measures you take are working or effective. and what are you going to do about the 100 and 1000's of companies being hacked and their data mined and sold every month? you cant do anything about that. plus its much better for hackers to get their info from a big company because you get much more than just 1 dude that does his banking online and chat every now and then.there is no money to be made from 1 individual.
if you think people are specifically after you, you are gravely being fooled by the vpn ad campaigns that have been poping up everywhere about "privacy".( they must hide the fact that they also get hacked very well.its just that the media hasint picked up on it yet)
anyways who want to waste time on an end user/device?
when again you just need to hack equifax like a few years back and you get the motherload instead.
all in all I've abandoned the thought of real privacy. its futile.( even abstinents dosen't work because companies and governments don't secure customer data correctly. and unfortunately if you are born, you must be branded and labeled and filed away.)
live your life. just know that what ever you do you can't escape big brother and your data from being leaked by the big companies that say that it is secured with them.
the whole infrascturuce relies on them companies and the habits we have been embraining ourselves and our children with is the problem.. we live our lives intertwined with the services and devices that we take for granted and have clicked next next next through polices and consent forms for over 25 years now whithout even giving it a second though. we're in over our heads now and it is a little late to back out. this was al dine by design and all voluntarily. its crazy how marketing is evil.
a cabin in the woods is the easiest and most secure thing one can do. anything shy of that is a waste of time and a false feeling of privacy.
anyways I'm going around in circles now.
one thing for sure is that the criminals we think that we need cover from are not who we think they are.
they are the FCC dealing with big telcos, they are the big media giants spewing false information and fabricates facts. they are in our governments in the highest ranks pushing hidden agendas and most of all they are the big social media platforms remodeling our society each day under our noses at our expense.
but hey this is not new. the internet police is just tring to make you think it is and spend 9.99$ a month for a vpn lol
good luck.
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Oy vey! Thank you very much for yor contribution. It is very much appreciated and I see what you are saying.

AndroidUser00110001 said:
I just stopped using as many Google apps as I can and switched over to MS Office apps and use Samsung services where I can too...
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How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?

Nonetheless, what are some good and viable alternatives to Google and optimally "securing" one's device (taking everything bober10113 has said).

michel5891 said:
How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?
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Like the other poster said, I gave up on worrying about privacy. I made the switch for other reasons and privacy was down on the list...
I just do not like what Goolge has been doing lately, especially blocking ad blockers soon in Chrome so I switched to MS Edge on Android and the Chromium version of Edge for desktop and the rest of the apps just followed through. I am seeing how the switch works for myself and if all goes well I will switch back to MS for the small company I work for.
I gave up on Gmail, Google Drive and all their office apps so far and I stopped using Nexus/Pixel phones for the first time in 10 years. I started with the S9+ which I enjoyed for a couple of months and then got a Note9 during a holiday special and now I cannot wait for the Note10.
Privacy is what it is nowadays... We should all own our data and if we choose to let be used as companies are doing now then we should get a slice of all the money being made but I doubt it will ever get to be something like that.

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How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?
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I wouldn't think that they are any better than Google's. Majority of the companies out there that are international had to adhere to the EU rules of privacy, so a lot of them have adopted those standards. NOT ALL OF THEM. That's why all of a sudden you are getting new agreements from all the major companies that touch each section of land on the world.
I still don't trust any of them even to that point.
This is morbid. I have been thinking a lot more about death, debt, privacy and such, and I have come to the conclusion that I honestly don't care about my own anymore because it has been stolen, including my wife's. Future children though, I worry about them because you don't even have to mention their name on the internet and somehow every major company knows about them.
Ever had a conversation with someone without actually looking something up on the web, and then a day or two later Google and other ads start showing things concerning what you were talking about to someone in person? Yeah, it has happened to me numerous times now I can't even count anymore.

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Ever had a conversation with someone without actually looking something up on the web, and then a day or two later Google and other ads start showing things concerning what you were talking about to someone in person? Yeah, it has happened to me numerous times now I can't even count anymore.
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YES!!! I noticed this a few months ago. My wife and I were talking about some random subject and BAM there it was in my Google discovery feed.
I mentioned that to her and she thought I was crazy until it happened again.
My friend was over last week, he mentioned something about a car he is fixing up and once again in my Google feed...
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I am not going to go as far as saying they are listening because my wife did say she looked up what we were talking about later on that day on her phone so I am guessing it is more GPS based then Google listening to give them the benefit of doubt for now. I need to ask my friend if he searched anything while here...

You want to De-Google your phone? Sell it and don't get an Android phone. Don't get an iPhone, either. In fact, get one of those huge car phones from the 80s. I can't add really anything that hasn't been said, other than some slight humor, but again, if you want privacy, stay off the internet.

AndroidUser00110001 said:
YES!!! I noticed this a few months ago. My wife and I were talking about some random subject and BAM there it was in my Google discovery feed.
I mentioned that to her and she thought I was crazy until it happened again.
My friend was over last week, he mentioned something about a car he is fixing up and once again in my Google feed...
*EDIT*
I am not going to go as far as saying they are listening because my wife did say she looked up what we were talking about later on that day on her phone so I am guessing it is more GPS based then Google listening to give them the benefit of doubt for now. I need to ask my friend if he searched anything while here...
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This is what I'm trying to prevent. Exactly the same thing had happened to me. We were simply discussing an AC unit; never looked it up or mentioned the name of it and the exact make and model in the room we were in showed up.

michel5891 said:
This is what I'm trying to prevent. Exactly the same thing had happened to me. We were simply discussing an AC unit; never looked it up or mentioned the name of it and the exact make and model in the room we were in showed up.
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Yeah it's super duper creepy. Funny thing is since I refreshed my Note 9 up to PIE, I haven't given assistant or google search any permission to use my microphone and I don't even have them setup!

this might help:
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6030020?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
turn voice activity off. also check your history to see if it has any recording...