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I just got done reading an article from USA Today that was talking about how users who have grandfathered data will be forced to select one of Verizon's shared family plans or tiered plans if or when they go to upgrade their device.
I really despise Verizon for this and will be heading to sprint if I have to give up unlimited data. If they think they will make more money from this move, I suggest everyone leave Verizon and show them the error in their ways.
And just wait, they are trying to eliminate unlimited data for home internet also and the head of the FCC supports limited data. Online gaming and video will suffer and our country will wonder why businesses will struggle. Who's going to let their kids play online games when they have to watch their data usage. Bad news for companies like Sony who have the PS3 and online gaming and bad news for online video streaming companies like Netflix.
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In the end though, I really can't see Verizon being too negatively affected by all of this. The heavy duty users will either pony up the extra cash (because of Sprint's shoddy coverage) or leave and bog down another carriers network.
I have unlimited data right now, and I rarely go over 2GB and I've never been over 4. I stream music pretty often, use fox-fi for thether, and spend a good bit of time on my phone.
Does it suck? Yea. Will it get me to switch? Probably not. I guess it depends on what the pricing structure looks like. I'm intrigued by the idea of the shared data plans too.
Cut off will be June 27th 1159pm to keep it for one last contract.
New plans are expensive! http://solutions.vzwshop.com/shareeverything/pdf/verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf
I love Verizon...I have 2 lines on my account (both Bionics) one has the 10GB plan and my wife has the 6GB + mobile hotspot and our monthly bill is around $215/month. Plenty of data for that price.
Peace.
Your on xda, and still paying for the hotspot service? We're the reason Verizon started offering the tethering service in the first place once they realized we were already doing it for free.
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Believe me I love FoxFi. My wife is a by the book type person.
She uses the hotspot feature for work as a necessity. No matter how many times I tell her that I'm 99% sure she wouldn't get caught using FoxFi she comes back and says that what if they do? I need this for work! I then just sigh.
I think if they are going to force limited data plans on us, at least give an exemption for apps such as Netflix. You will eat your plan up real fast just by streaming a couple movies.
Also include services such as slacker radio and Pandora into the exemption.
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So if we have grandfathered unlimited data (we been on verizon for years) do we keep it as long as we dont upgrade or buy phones off contract (like ebay)?
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So if we have grandfathered unlimited data (we been on verizon for years) do we keep it as long as we dont upgrade or buy phones off contract (like ebay)?
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This is precisely how to keep unlimited data.
If Verizon sells you a subsidized phone, that's where they get to force you into a new contract.
If you buy a phone at full retail price from Verizon, or buy a used phone from a place like eBay or Swappa your unlimited data is safe.
Even if you're sitting on something like a Samsung Fascinate, you can go on Craigslist and buy a Razr Maxx, head to a Verizon store, and get a free SIM card to continue service on the Razr Maxx. Nothing on your plan changes except a line item or two for $0.00 indicating that you have 4G Unlimited instead of 3G Unlimited.
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This is precisely how to keep unlimited data.
If Verizon sells you a subsidized phone, that's where they get to force you into a new contract.
If you buy a phone at full retail price from Verizon, or buy a used phone from a place like eBay or Swappa your unlimited data is safe.
Even if you're sitting on something like a Samsung Fascinate, you can go on Craigslist and buy a Razr Maxx, head to a Verizon store, and get a free SIM card to continue service on the Razr Maxx. Nothing on your plan changes except a line item or two for $0.00 indicating that you have 4G Unlimited instead of 3G Unlimited.
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This is wrong. That is how it used to work before, now if you attempt to activate a new phone you will be forced to choose new plan options before they will activate it, regardless of where you got your phone. Welcome to the new Verizon.
I will probably be forced off of Verizon at some point. I am already paying $245 a month for 2 androids with unlimited talk, text, and data with insurance and a $3/month slacker radio subscription.
While the data limitations would be no concern to my girlfriend, I am at 5.341gb for the month, with another week left in the month. They are already getting enough money from us every month.
With the changes, I will be forced to cancel my slacker subscription because I use it mainly while driving and won't be able to do that anymore. I don't mind paying $3 a month for being able to listen to music I like while driving. This is an example of why limited data plans have an economic impact on other companies.
I don't know, but I think $245 a month is enough. Is business really that bad for them that they have to try to push for $300 a month? This is why corporate America is seen as greedy.
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Does this include prepaid also?
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The shared data plans are a complete rip anyway. From what I read, they charge you for the pool, than the first device, than the second device. That means that I would pay the same I pay now for my plan's two devices and only get 4GB of data for the two of them to share. I know exactly what I am going to do when I get my next upgrade; I won't upgrade.
nobreak1970 said:
Believe me I love FoxFi. My wife is a by the book type person.
She uses the hotspot feature for work as a necessity. No matter how many times I tell her that I'm 99% sure she wouldn't get caught using FoxFi she comes back and says that what if they do? I need this for work! I then just sigh.
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I understand your point. Your wife sounds like someone who should be paying for it since its for work.
Its the average user whom I think its overpriced for. I don't use it myself too often, but I did pay $10 for easy tether so I can hook up through USB and share my data with my computer when I need to. Since I don't typically need other people using my data, I rarely use wifi tether since it kills your battery faster.
I don't just oppose limited data based on my data usage though. I look at the bigger picture. It will slow down technology growth and may put some businesses out of business. Any business that uses bandwidth will be impacted. Customers will be less willing to pay for services that they could be charged twice for using (the service and the data overage charges, Netflix, slacker radio, etc). Even app developers will be impacted because people will be less willing to download as many apps to try out.
Some flashers may impacted as well. Some of us download the roms directly on to our phones. Our data plans would be eaten up a lot just by keeping up to date with the roms.
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Sadly when I first found out about shared family plans I thought it would save me money but it seems to get an amount of data equivalent to what the three basic data packages on my account have i will have to pay a good bit more.
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nullness said:
This is wrong. That is how it used to work before, now if you attempt to activate a new phone you will be forced to choose new plan options before they will activate it, regardless of where you got your phone. Welcome to the new Verizon.
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Okay then. Debunk this article which contains an official statement from Verizon
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...d-data-says-exactly-what-we-already-told-you/
What to do.... I don't think Sprint is an option. Go to AT&T? Is it worth paying list price just to keep unlimited data? Since I am not upgrading soon, I will have the benefit of lots of examples.
ronaldheld said:
What to do.... I don't think Sprint is an option. Go to AT&T? Is it worth paying list price just to keep unlimited data? Since I am not upgrading soon, I will have the benefit of lots of examples.
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AT&T was the first to eliminate unlimited data. They are worse than Verizon. At one point in time, they had their phones locked to where you could only install apps from the android market. They stopped that when Amazon released their own app store and their users couldn't install the Amazon app store, or any of the apps from it.
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projektorboy said:
Okay then. Debunk this article which contains an official statement from Verizon
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...d-data-says-exactly-what-we-already-told-you/
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That article is a month old...read more recent statements from them.
If you are in a Sprint 4G area, go for it.
I had to have an Airave device just to make a phone call.
Sprint changed their billing, I opted out with no etf's(a moto photon and a nexus s4g, about one month old), went to Verizon, signed on, came home, had full bars of 3G, and a week later they flipped the switch and I now have 4G.
I sent an open signal text to my old Sprint rep showing her the 4G and strength. WHat else could she do?
ATT go phone just started their new prepaid plans which are compatible with our nexus 4.
New plan is unlimited talk, text, and 2gb of data for $60 a month. Plus additional 1gb of data is $10 per gb.
I know this is a little more expensive, but for people like me that live in and "E" data area for t-mobile, I now finally have hspa wherever I go with no spotty coverage.
There was rumor that you can get a postpaid att account with unlimited everything with 5gb of data. The clerks at the store said that since it is byod, there wouldn't be a contract break out fee, which I find hard to believe.
Anyone ever do that?
Would you mind posting your APN settings? I've had the gophone plan for a month and started getting horribly low speeds, changed the APN to get better speeds and lost mms abilities.
Also, I had the older gophone plan and on the 22nd it switched automatically to the new, cheaper, and better, plan.
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Cyanogen has them pre-programmed in their ROM.
You don't want the Cingular one. That's the old one with slow speeds.
You want the one with "phone".
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These settings work great on my nexus 4 and got them from a gs4 on display at an att store. In addition, it matches the htc one on display at the store.
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Tried those above. Still can't send or receive mms.
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ballaz said:
These settings work great on my nexus 4 and got them from a gs4 on display at an att store. In addition, it matches the htc one on display at the store.
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I had no idea there were new apns that work on gophone, they work great for me, thanks!
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ATT go phone just started their new prepaid plans which are compatible with our nexus 4.
New plan is unlimited talk, text, and 2gb of data for $60 a month. Plus additional 1gb of data is $10 per gb.
I know this is a little more expensive, but for people like me that live in and "E" data area for t-mobile, I now finally have hspa wherever I go with no spotty coverage.
There was rumor that you can get a postpaid att account with unlimited everything with 5gb of data. The clerks at the store said that since it is byod, there wouldn't be a contract break out fee, which I find hard to believe.
Anyone ever do that?
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Go phone plans now support LTE since june 21st as long as you have an LTE capable device.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/14/att-gophone-lte/
Thanks
AOKP/FRANCO N4
Originally had my Nexus 4 on T-Mobile. After a week or so of 2g data I made the switch to AT&T's go phone plan. I'm on the 60$ talk, text, 2gig deal. I couldn't be happier. I just need to get used to only downloading file at home on WiFi.
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As a Verizon User, I was so ready for the Nexus 5 to come out on Verizon and when it didn't, yet the hardware supported it, I knew there had to be a way to get this device to run on Verizon's Network. So, naturally I looked around on Forums and such and here is what we know right now:
- The WTR1625L Built by Qualcomm (The Same chip in the G2) Does in fact have hardware support for Verizon
- The Nexus 5 DOES recognize Verizon as a network and has even allowed some users to browse on Band 4 LTE Shown here
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847&page=32)
- CDMA Voice and Band 13 Currently do not work (As Expected)
- A User named Ken GS4 over on the Google Forums here, was in fact able to have his Nexus 5's IMEI registered and active inside of Verizon's Database, and then theoretically, should "Activate". Now, Ken has stated that the phone would not work on CDMA or Band 13 however he does not live in a band 4 area and was unable to check on that
(http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/Jv9FAwucMWM/7pIfTKxY5yUJ)
- Additionally, Ken had stated that the Verizon Wireless employees told him that on their end everything checked out and so, it had to be something in the Firmware that would be blocking it
- Some users on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847 have attempted flashing the LG G2 Radios at no avail, so unless those files are heavily modded in order to allow the Nexus 5 to turn on without a boot loop, that solution is out.
So, It looks as though all of us Verizon Users need a developer to look deep into the code, find what is blocking the Verizon network, and create a flashable zip which could remedy the solution and allow the WTR1625L to work as it does in the G2 but without any blockage. Now, developers, as we know, are busy and need to put food on the table. So, I propose we start a kickstarter/IndieGogo Campaign, along with a WILLING DEVELOPER, and have all of us Verizon users put our money where our mouths are. We would need to raise enough money to get a Developer a Nexus 5, and enough for a Verizon plan for at least a month, along with some extra cash to allow him/her to have payment for completing this incredibly large task. So, We are calling out to you, THE DEVELOPERS, to contact me so I can create a kickstarter/indiegogo campaign in your name, so that you can raise enough money to help all of us Get This Phone working on Big Red!!!
Screw Verizon. I left them after 5 years of sh!tty droid phones. I even had grandfathered unlimited data.
N5->VZW=Headache
Solution :
Sell N5 + Buy VZW G2=No Headache
Just sayin....
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Nexus will never "officially" be on Verizon again
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
It will probably never happen I was with VZW for 10 years and I just switched to att and its been so much better just get out if u can.
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If Verizon wanted the phone on their network they would have made a deal with LG/Google to do so legally. It seems to me an attempt to hack software to allow a phone to operate on a private company's bandwidth smacks of being illegal. If they wanted it, it would already be there. If you love the phone, take it where it works. If you live VZW, then pick something in their product line.
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
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And THIS is the reason I am switching to T-Mo next month after 15 years with VZW. The GNex debacle was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Can't wait to have a REAL Nexus.
sorry verizon people, your just going to have to accept that verizon will not ever get a nexus device, due to how they handled the galaxy nexus. And they shouldnt after that.(
I left verizon & unlimited data about a month & a half ago. Sure, I hated to lose unlimited data. But, I wanted the N5. Sometimes you have to make hard decisions. Give up the good fight with verizon, you will not prevail. Leave as soon as you can if you can have good service with another provider.
um, WTR1625L is the transceiver. there are other components that need to be compatible (modem which is inside the snapdragon 800 chip, antennas)
you probably need to modify modem as well.... good luck finding the source code (FCC regulates the baseband) or hacking it
I'm gone from Verizon too. Have only found one place where I get no signal on tmo and in fact have a better signal in my office than I ever did on vzw. To the poster above, why would you lose unlimited? I'm on prepaid unlimited everything. Don't miss vzw too much. They won't legally allow a true nexus on their network any time soon so if you want a nexus you better be prepared to leave big red...
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A lot of people don't seem to understand that Verizon throttles people's bandwith once they hit a certain limit on their data. It's still unlimited, but you'll be getting it a lot slower eventually if you use a lot of data. The same goes with any "unlimited" data plan from prepaid carriers these days, you typically pay for a certain amount of data at "full 4G/LTE speeds" and then once you hit that limit, you get throttled down to a slower download and upload rate.
I'm on Aio Wireless and get 8+/- mbps on LTE (They cap you at 8mbps on LTE), but once I hit my limit, I go to 256kbps which is still plenty fast enough to surf the web. You're not going to stream netflix in HD off of that little bandwith, but for many people it'll do the job just fine for facebook, surfing the web, checking emails, etc.
I left Verizon a year ago, and I'll never go back to them ever. Even if they lowered their prices to be competitive with T-Mobile or other prepaid carriers, it's not worth their bloatware loaded phones, cdma network, or software update timeline.
Verizon will never get a nexus. Nor do they deserve one. They hold off updates etc. And that's not what a nexus is about. I had unlimited data on Verizon. And was with then for 10+ years. Sold my **** and left. Got straight talk using att towers. It's been a month and I'm much better off.
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A bit of an analogous story, I bought an HP touchpad during the firesale and the community back then was so hellbent on getting android to work on the HP tablet because the native webos was a dying ecosystem. Lo and behold a bunch of developers actually managed to get Android onto the HP touchpad but it didn't run very well because the touchpad's hardware wasn't optimized for android to begin with. It was a crappy, unstable experience.
Alot of credit and Kudos go to the developers who made this possible, however. Those guys were amazing but the long and short of it is that you're going to be making a huge effort to get a subpar experience. If you can't break from the Verizon network, you might as well just get something which is officially supported or naively runs on the Verizon network.
TLR you're putting a bunch of effort in achieving a subpar experience at best.
Just leave Verizon. They charge way too much and have crap phones. Jump ship to T-Mobile or att
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Jesus people just don't understand. it's technically just not feasible to use it on Verizon.
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I left verizon for ATT and am not looking back. I used to love verizon becuase of the great service but ATT has the same if not better service. I even left with a corporate discount and unlimited data. The Nexus 5 was just worth it.
Another one here that left a corporate discount and grandfathered unlimited data just to have an unadulterated Android experience with the Nexus 5. I miss the unlimited 4G and that there were more LTE towers for verizon in my area but it was a sacrifice I had to make. Saves me some $$ in the long run and I have a much better phone because of it.
why do people insist that this is possible? it's not going to work, just move on to another carrier.
So last night T-Mobile has announced it's rollout of voLTE, a feature which let's a subscriber use LTE for voice calls.
After doing some research, I learned that voLTE works on the principles of SIP and that currently only 3 phones support it.
Will Google/Qualcomm work on a patch or update to give Nexus 5 this ability?
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I really wish I had T-Mobile in my area They're actually pushing for new, cool features. It seems like all other big companies are doing what they can to stagnate the market because they already have the major market shares. I just want to support you, T-Mo! Why don't you want my money!?
All that said, I have Aio (Cricket now) and I've been more than pleased with them. Just want the option of T-Mo and give em a whirl...
I have no idea on the answer to your question though. Enjoy a free bump instead!
the answer is more than likely no.
I love t mobile. Unlimited 4g lte gives me between 20-50mbps everywhere I go. Best part, I'm never throttled. I don't even bother going on wifi anymore as my data connection is always faster. I doubt this will be added to the nexus 5 though unfortunately.
T-mobile has had voLTE in limited market(s) for a few months now. The 'subscription' comment sounds like a no go for prepaid plans.
So it sounds like a device bought from the play store or Motorola directly will work on VZW with a previously activated nano SIM...my question is what downsides are there to going this route versus waiting?
VoLTE will be a big deal when VZW devices are upgraded to it...will a non-VZW nexus be able to take that upgrade? I assume dev support for this device will be strong but I would be hesitant to rely on that for such a critical (simultaneous voice and data) upgrade.
People that are going this route have no VoLTE support.... Nor can they do voice and data simultaneously... I am leary on going this route bc i refuse to pay 650 and the phone be limited and not fully supported.
However i really think the wait will be longer than we expected. I doubt vzw releases the nexus 6 this year at all. They are pushing Droid Turbo units as much as possible for however long
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We have no way of knowing the deal on volte so to say those that buy it from google play won't get it is just silly. The carrier version will be identical to the versions bought on google play except for a small carrier partition for ringtones and custom boot animations (look at what att did). I'm pretty sure the n6 has simultaneous voice and data but I'll check with my friend to confirm.
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We have no way of knowing the deal on volte so to say those that buy it from google play won't get it is just silly. The carrier version will be identical to the versions bought on google play except for a small carrier partition for ringtones and custom boot animations (look at what att did). I'm pretty sure the n6 has simultaneous voice and data but I'll check with my friend to confirm.
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Users have already confirmed it does not....and Volte requires a feature provisioning
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Ah well that's a bit of a bummer. Doesn't necessarily mean that the one from Verizon will though
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Ah well that's a bit of a bummer. Doesn't necessarily mean that the one from Verizon will though
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Well thats the problem...when and how long are you willing to wait? The purpose of a nexus is too have lollipop and the newest version of android
By the time Vzw releases devices like note 4 and s5 and moto x will already have their versions of Lollipop....smh
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And that's my concern...VoLTE isn't a Google enhancement, its VZW only. If VZW never releases the N6 it will likely never support voice and data...and even of they do release it, I am worried the update will be VZW-device specific. Maybe it can be ported, but that's a big maybe.
Its torture waiting as i have purchased every nexus at launch.. And i cracked my Nexus 5 screen last week ....i check vzwsupport twitter page daily. They continue to say they have no news on the nexus 6
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Tsoflyyup said:
Its torture waiting as i have purchased every nexus at launch.. And i cracked my Nexus 5 screen last week ....i check vzwsupport twitter page daily. They continue to say they have no news on the nexus 6
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Amigo, soonest I'd expect N6 sold via VZW is New Year's.
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Amigo, soonest I'd expect N6 sold via VZW is New Year's.
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I hope your right lol, knowing Vzw it wi be end Jan early Feb
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The device will be the same device that's on the play store or any carrier for that matter...your SIM will work...and if you lose your SIM, Verizon will give you a new one..you may need to cut it depending on what phone you currently have, but you don't have to worry about service...you can even add your Nexus on your account using the "bring my own device" page...if VOLTE requires software from Verizon, it will surely get added to the custom ROMS...its a Nexus after all...most customizable phone available.