when i place a phone call my normal procedure is:
1: press the green phone button
2: slide the keyboard out
3: begin typing a few letters of the name
4: use the arrow key on the keyboard to scroll down to the persons name <--- this is very important
5: hit return and talk
i am finding that i am unable to use the arrow keys to scroll down to select a contact on the Tilt as opposed to the HTC 6800. remember, i'm already have the kb open at this point and would prefer to just continue using it.
this then requires me to pull out the stylus or try and nail tap the contacts name from the list that appears.
it seems to only way to scroll through is to select Contacts first, start typing a few letters then scroll down and click the name then scroll some damn more and tell the phone to call. this strikes me as gratuitious.
has anyone else experience this annoyance and if so, has anyone found a solution?
i tried replacing the dialer with the touch dialer but it seems to simply skin the same lame functionality.
please advise.
I understand you want to use the kb at this point, but how hard is it to just raise your left thumb up 1.5" and use the D-pad?
I can duplicate the problem, but I've got a similar "OK... But..." comment.
Why use the keyboard? When the phone pops up, start tapping the numbers associated with the letters in the name and it'll intelligently start filtering the list. Then use a finger or the D-pad to select the one you want.
PerfAlbion said:
I can duplicate the problem, but I've got a similar "OK... But..." comment.
Why use the keyboard? When the phone pops up, start tapping the numbers associated with the letters in the name and it'll intelligently start filtering the list. Then use a finger or the D-pad to select the one you want.
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ok - i had never really done that. im just so comfortable typing on the qwerty kb that that has always been the method i have used which worked up until this phone.
only irritant i can find with the dialpad method is there is no space key for first letter first name first letter last name.
i can live with it i guess but its not nearly as bling when yer tapping on the dial pad like every other phone out there instead of using your kick ass slide out keyboard.
the habit may have transfered from my days with a treo where you simply type the name and dial.
very convenient.
In the new froyo release, when you hold down over a letter key and swipe up above the keyboard, a row of numbers and commonly used punctuation appears. You no longer need to switch to the number board to type numbers!
I haven't seen this mentioned in any reviews or commentary about FroYo. I can't be the only one to notice this, can I?
I saw it somewhere on the web, some sort of review. Don't remember where though.
romantivist said:
In the new froyo release, when you hold down over a letter key and swipe up above the keyboard, a row of numbers and commonly used punctuation appears. You no longer need to switch to the number board to type numbers!
I haven't seen this mentioned in any reviews or commentary about FroYo. I can't be the only one to notice this, can I?
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This was mentioned several times in one of the thousands of "what's different in FroYo" threads that popped up the day following its "release" (escape is more likely, it seems).
You can also change keyboard language sets by swiping sideways on the space bar
Oh. Well, I wasn't lurking on the XDA nexus one forums then, I've only just started since I got my Nexus One about three days ago. Before that, I was getting my FroYo news from places like engadget, androiddog, etc.
Thanks for the response, though. XD
the .com button is missing from the keyboard when in the browser too, very annoying...
romantivist said:
Oh. Well, I wasn't lurking on the XDA nexus one forums then, I've only just started since I got my Nexus One about three days ago. Before that, I was getting my FroYo news from places like engadget, androiddog, etc.
Thanks for the response, though. XD
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Don't forget that the basic punctuations are above the keyboard after you type a full word too. And the fact that if you type an unknown word in the dictionary, you can tap the grey word above the keyboard and it will say "<-- tap again to add to dictionary"
That's one thing that bugged me is having to hold down the textbox, scroll down, select add to dictionary, push ok and go back to the app before. They got that idea from the HTC_IME ^_^
I also noticed that if you long press the period (.) or the emoticon keys a popup will show more of the symbols / emoticons.
I'm not sure if this was new to Froyo or if this was also in eclair.
anyone noticed that now the keyboard is more responsive, I can type very fast now... I don't need skp.
I wonder if that is due to JIT compiler or if they have made other changes like adding muti-touch?
If I type and hold down both keys it looks like it now registers both correctly (except it waits until one finger is lifted to recognize the second letter)
I think this is different from eclair which wouldn't handle the second letter correctly.
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Don't forget that the basic punctuations are above the keyboard after you type a full word too. And the fact that if you type an unknown word in the dictionary, you can tap the grey word above the keyboard and it will say "<-- tap again to add to dictionary"
That's one thing that bugged me is having to hold down the textbox, scroll down, select add to dictionary, push ok and go back to the app before. They got that idea from the HTC_IME ^_^
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In 2.1 i just tap and hold on the unknown word and it adds it to the dictionary.
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In 2.1 i just tap and hold on the unknown word and it adds it to the dictionary.
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The new method may be easier to understand, but it
adds an (unnecessary) extra tap to get the job done.
Dave RL said:
I also noticed that if you long press the period (.) or the emoticon keys a popup will show more of the symbols / emoticons.
I'm not sure if this was new to Froyo or if this was also in eclair.
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Dave RL said:
I wonder if that is due to JIT compiler or if they have made other changes like adding muti-touch?
If I type and hold down both keys it looks like it now registers both correctly (except it waits until one finger is lifted to recognize the second letter)
I think this is different from eclair which wouldn't handle the second letter correctly.
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Both of these are just from 2.1, not new.
Thanks for clarifying those Rusty. I guess I wasn't using the keyboard enough in 2.1.
Meh. Swype.
Wondering if any of this can be changed/disabled:
1. After voice inputting text, whole input is highlighted so if i press back but only one word was misspelled the entire input self-deletes.......
2. When attempting to correct text, I get this large annoying box with a "Tt" or something in it that looks like a font selection, I need it to go away.
3. when I voice input "gets" and it only shows up with "get", then I select the space where the "s" needs to be added and it suggests the entire word "gets".......so it looks like :
get|
gets|getting
and if i select the change it becomes
getgets
it's about as bad as it gets........any help on fixing these three issues would be greatly appreciated
I know this isn't going to be much help but I had the same annoyances with Handcent, so I switched to Go SMS...no major problems just small things that bother a person OCD but not a normal person lol
These problem might be keyboard base. I used Swype and didn't notice problem 2 and 3.
anyone else?
Damani311 said:
Wondering if any of this can be changed/disabled:
1. After voice inputting text, whole input is highlighted so if i press back but only one word was misspelled the entire input self-deletes.......
2. When attempting to correct text, I get this large annoying box with a "Tt" or something in it that looks like a font selection, I need it to go away.
3. when I voice input "gets" and it only shows up with "get", then I select the space where the "s" needs to be added and it suggests the entire word "gets".......so it looks like :
get|
gets|getting
and if i select the change it becomes
getgets
it's about as bad as it gets........any help on fixing these three issues would be greatly appreciated
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For 1 touch somewhere in the text to unselect everything and put the cursor where you want it.
2 the T box is a context menu for text editing: cut, copy, paste.
3 (on swype anyway thats all I use)select the word and double tap that will bring up the word choice window and selecting the correct word will replace it instead of just inserting it there with both of them.
Hope that helps...
Your best bet might be to ask in the Hancent forums. I also had a few issues with it so went to Go sms myself and am enjoying it alot.
Just wondering what some other Swype users think of the new gesture typing in 4.2?
I like that it matches the OS aesthetically, and the smoothness of the animation (as well as how it tapers as it fades)... but it doesn't quite stack up.
- I frequently find myself digging for characters I can long press on Swype.
- The gesture keyboard doesn't seem to recognize any gestures for double characters. My last name is Cooke and I I can't type it without getting Coke.
- Swype seems a lot better at giving me corrections for when its first guess is wrong.
- Swype just overall seems more accurate when I'm quickly moving through words.
What do you think? It's at least nice knowing the option is there should Swype ever end the Beta
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Just wondering what some other Swype users think of the new gesture typing in 4.2?
I like that it matches the OS aesthetically, and the smoothness of the animation (as well as how it tapers as it fades)... but it doesn't quite stack up.
- I frequently find myself digging for characters I can long press on Swype.
- The gesture keyboard doesn't seem to recognize any gestures for double characters. My last name is Cooke and I I can't type it without getting Coke.
- Swype seems a lot better at giving me corrections for when its first guess is wrong.
- Swype just overall seems more accurate when I'm quickly moving through words.
What do you think? It's at least nice knowing the option is there should Swype ever end the Beta
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I find myself missing the long-press characters as well, in particular the numbers. I often type passwords with a combination of letters and numbers, and it's a pain having to switch back and forth.
Double characters work fine for me. My understanding is that every word is a prediction when you use gesture typing, and predictions work off of the dictionary. So if the word you're trying to type isn't in the dictionary, then it won't show up correctly. In your case, maybe Cooke isn't a valid word according to Google.
I tried swype and gave up on it it was so innacurate - suggesting words that didn't even make sense.
The 4.2 keyboard has been excellent.. I'm not convinced it's any faster than just typing though.
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I find myself missing the long-press characters as well, in particular the numbers. I often type passwords with a combination of letters and numbers, and it's a pain having to switch back and forth.
Double characters work fine for me. My understanding is that every word is a prediction when you use gesture typing, and predictions work off of the dictionary. So if the word you're trying to type isn't in the dictionary, then it won't show up correctly. In your case, maybe Cooke isn't a valid word according to Google.
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I love it but it takes practice. I like the new jb version better than swipe..
Just a tip - go into your dictionary and shortcuts to the words that get misspelled.
I also love the voice typing.. If you have not tried it trust me, you will love it.
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I prefer it too Swype, double characters aren't a problem, in fact I prefer Google's system. No doing a swirl on a character, just let it figure it out for you.
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I find myself missing the long-press characters as well, in particular the numbers. I often type passwords with a combination of letters and numbers, and it's a pain having to switch back and forth.
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You can long-press the top row of letters to get numbers; no need to switch back and forth for alphanumeric passwords.
Also, 16 of the most common symbols are accessible via a long-press on the "." key. The most common one that's not on the main keyboard, ",", is the one that's accessed by just long-pressing "." and releasing it, which I thought was creative and very handy; the remaining ones are accessed by a long-press and then a slide to the one you want. I actually think it will work better than Swype for less-frequently used symbols once I get used to it, since I don't have to search the keyboard to remind myself which key I need to press for the one I want.
I think the gesture keyboard is just about as accurate as Swype in my usage, but I agree that the suggestions for a missed word aren't as good, and two alternatives is clearly not enough.
I don't think the bubble floating along above my finger as I trace adds any utility (for me, at least); I'm usually tracing fast enough that I can't read what it has recognized so far, and it's faster just to finish the word than to slow down to look and see if it has the correct answer yet. For people who trace slowly, though, I guess it would be helpful.
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Rusty! said:
I prefer it too Swype, double characters aren't a problem, in fact I prefer Google's system. No doing a swirl on a character, just let it figure it out for you.
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The more recent versions of Swype don't require looping on double characters, either, which was one of the things I really hated about earlier versions. In fact, I used other tracing keyboards (SlideIt, FlexT9) instead of Swype until Swype changed.
For me, typing with Swype y far better than using the 4.2 stock keyboard. The word recognition is much accurate. Using 4.2 Keyboard, I find myself retyping several times until the word that I want is recognized.
Cooke is in my dictionary for sure - the predictive nature of the keyboard does at least suggest it to come up after my first name.
Interesting that most of you prefer the 4.2... I'm curious, are you people who tried Swype and didn't like it, or people who have been using Swype as their default for the last year or so. It just might be differences in technique. I do it quite quickly.
Tony - I swipe as quickly as a fast touchscreen typer with 2 hands in landscape. The difference is that I get to do it one-handed in portrait. That, to me, is where the convenience lies.
One other features that I really miss when using Google's: after swiping in a bunch of words, Swype lets you tap on them in the text box and swap to the different suggestions. Google only seems to maintain the most recent.
Edit: Again, I don't mind doubling up on letters. The option to not do it is nice, for sure, but I prefer the accuracy.
The swiping feature on 4.2 looks pretty but I think it's not really there for the phone but rather for tablets. Pecking out words even in portrait on the N10 is unbearable for me. Swiping is the only way I can half way efficiently type out a sentence or post. Maybe if you have spider hands you can peck it out but I have a really hard time with it. I wish they would have just made the keyboard have the ability to split. I know there's other keyboard software out there that can take care of this, but none of them look like the stock keyboard. A minor point, but the stock keyboard look and layout is home to me. The other ones don't seem to mesh with the look of android as well.
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The difference is that I get to do it one-handed in portrait. That, to me, is where the convenience lies.
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My thumb isn't that coordinated! I trace pretty quickly, but only with the index finger of my right hand while holding the phone with my left. If I tried to do it with my thumb, I'd drop the phone for sure!
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One other features that I really miss when using Google's: after swiping in a bunch of words, Swype lets you tap on them in the text box and swap to the different suggestions. Google only seems to maintain the most recent.
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The gesture keyboard isn't much worse than Swype in that regard: if you double-tap on a word, you get a "replace" button that gives you a list of suggested alternatives, and nearly always what I intended to type is in that list (YMMV). The main thing I miss about Swype is that it remembers your cursor position: if you double-tap and correct an earlier word, when you're done the cursor goes back to where it was before you double-tapped. I'd really love to have that back (although I'm lazy and probably won't bother to install Swype on my N4; the gesture keyboard is good enough, IMHO).
wmm said:
My thumb isn't that coordinated! I trace pretty quickly, but only with the index finger of my right hand while holding the phone with my left. If I tried to do it with my thumb, I'd drop the phone for sure!
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You should have your pinkie under the phone so it can't drop
IMO...
I've been using Swype since February or so. I strongly prefer the old Swype. The newer beta that was merged with FlexT9 no longer lets you swipe symbols, which was a killer feature. For example you could swipe from the key that held : as a long-press, and ) as a long-press, and it would give you a smiley as one of the alternatives. You could do this even with symbols that weren't shown as alternatives on the normal keyboard, as long as you added them to the dictionary, so you could do things like <hugs> if you wanted. Swype has so far not implemented anything remotely similar, and neither has Google. In fact, some of it has become even worse with the Google keyboard. Try typing "^^". I use all these emoticons a lot.
So I guess I'd say that I prefer the old Swype most, then the Google keyboard (which seems nicer than the new Swype beta to me), and then the Swype beta. I could never go back to picking out letters one by one. It's a lot more muscle movement and near-impossible to do while walking down a street or something.
That said, unfortunately my Nexus S old Swype APK is for 800x480, so it looks silly on an N4. I was planning to go find an xhdpi version somewhere, but I've been using the Google keyboard, and I'm fond of it just for typing out text. I'd be mostly happy switching to it if it did punctuation.
4.2 keyboard seems more accurate to me. Swype was more inaccurate for my use. Also I like how I can type normally and then gesture type when I want without switching keyboards. Also this is the first iteration of it and its equal to if not better than swype which has been in beta for like 3 years.
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kayateia said:
I'd be mostly happy switching to it if it did punctuation.
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If you turn off word prediction, the bar at the top displays punctuation.
Assuming that's what you meant, of course.
I love the keyboard. I used Swype for a long time and this feels almost exactly like it except that the keyboard is great for tap typing and swiping. The word prediction has been fine for once I stopped trying to use it like a Swype keyboard and got back into the habit of sweeping again. I still tap a lot when I can use both hands, but for one handed typing its hard to beat swiping.
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The only thing i like about swype better is that it would automatically add words to my dictionary. With 4.2 i find the vocabulary a little more limited and and adding words manually is painful. Other than that i find it more accurate and faster, but I'm still on an old galaxy captivate patiently waiting...
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I tried swype and gave up on it it was so innacurate - suggesting words that didn't even make sense.
The 4.2 keyboard has been excellent.. I'm not convinced it's any faster than just typing though.
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I find the exact opposite. I find the stock keyboard to be very inaccurate when using the swype feature. I am using the real swype again now and loving it much more than stock. I guess you get used to one way when you've been using it a long time
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Accuracy is fine - perhaps even better. But "added words" sucks so far. I have to continually add things like "Down8" (my username here & other places), and it never seems to stick.
I'm sure Google's keyboard will improve, but I may end up on Swype until then.
-bZj
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Accuracy is fine - perhaps even better. But "added words" sucks so far. I have to continually add things like "Down8" (my username here & other places), and it never seems to stick.
I'm sure Google's keyboard will improve, but I may end up on Swype until then.
-bZj
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You're doing it wrong
i find the typing feature in Swype is better in 4.2, when of course I'm not swyping.
I prefer it over the 4.2 keyboard but maybe cause I've been use to Swype for over a year and a half now.
I do not find smartphones to be as efficient as they could be. I hate typing on glass for one. And keyboard devices get treated with horrid internals.
But my Blackberry Classic propels forward. I go to use my note 4 and cringe. It's rich in all areas but input, Can't use swipe unless you have predictive text on and it constantly "auto" corrects my words and misspell and swipe is better but still not ideal.
either way I'm getting to a point I don't even want a "smart phone" anymore. If you disable predictive text you lose ability to swype......pathetic! I said **** not duck! Or is not on. Etc I hate auto correct I hate samsung I hate qualcomm I hate google I hate lollipops I hate milk chocolate (android m) I hate society...............
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If you want to say **** instead of duck save it to the keyboard's dictionary.
Try Swiftkey. The prediction is very accurate, the only times it misses for me is when I mess up, overshooting or sloppy swiping. It's a learning prediction engine, so any 'mistakes' you believe it makes will quickly be fixed. I have used it so much that Swiftkey can pretty much predict entire sentences, with variations. Most of the time I just type the starting word, and Swiftkey magically gives 3 suggestions for the next word, which one of them is the correct one 95% of the time.
For 'custom' words that get changed to 'duck', all you have to do is set spacebar completion mode to 'always insert a space' (In advanced options). Once that is on, if you find a word that Swiftkey autocorrects incorrectly, all you have to do is manually type the word twice, completing the words with the spacebar. Swiftkey will learn the word and swiping will correctly use that word from then on, and even use it in suggestions.
Also, predictive text is kind of required in order to use swiping, otherwise I am sure you would quickly realize a lot of words would be hard to type, such as 'apple'.