So i looked around
people say i5 is better because its cheaper
but in my case i7 2nd gen is cheaper than i5 3rd gen
so should i buy it?
also i7 has a vidia Geforce GT 525M graphics card included
i5 only has the regular intel graphics
I am talking about laptops
OK, so the i5 is going to be cheaper to start off. Newer so more efficient and better on battery. Depending on whether it is an ivy bridge or sandy bridge would make a difference too.
The i7 is going to be more powerful, but also hog the battery slightly more.
The i5 might not be too bad depending on how high you can clock it.
Personally I would go for the nVidia graphics card over a standard Intel, but depending on what you are doing with it, you may not need the processing power.
I wouldn't know what to choose really... any more specs? And what are you going to be doing with it?
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OK, so the i5 is going to be cheaper to start off. Newer so more efficient and better on battery. Depending on whether it is an ivy bridge or sandy bridge would make a difference too.
The i7 is going to be more powerful, but also hog the battery slightly more.
The i5 might not be too bad depending on how high you can clock it.
Personally I would go for the nVidia graphics card over a standard Intel, but depending on what you are doing with it, you may not need the processing power.
I wouldn't know what to choose really... any more specs? And what are you going to be doing with it?
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Thank you so much for the reply
so let me explain my situation a bit more
you said an i5 would be cheaper
but in my case it WILL NOT be cheaper instead it will be more expensive
another thing for my to consider is that i5 3rd is hp envy
while i7 2nd gen is dell inspirion but on the plus side its $50 cheaper and it has the nvidia graphic card already included in the price.
The main thing will be casual gaming, web browsing, school work
but then again these can be statisfied with a i3 so im really trying to get a laptop which will last me a long time and can do whatever i throw at it.
also the rest of the specs are the same
You could take a look here. This should give you an idea of how the CPUs compare.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html
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The i7's larger cache will make a noticeable difference in the "real-world".
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You could take a look here. This should give you an idea of how the CPUs compare.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html
I tried it
but its a little too complicated for me to fully understand
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The i7's larger cache will make a noticeable difference in the "real-world".
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Well then should i stick to the cheaper i7?
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Well then should i stick to the cheaper i7?
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The cpu is superior. That's all I can say. However you're buying more than just the cpu so you should compare the keyboards, build quality and displays in your decision.
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The cpu is superior. That's all I can say. However you're buying more than just the cpu so you should compare the keyboards, build quality and displays in your decision.
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thank you for your advice
the build quality of hp is far superior
so that is a major plus on their end
I will definitely use your advice
I would say that both are sufficient for what you want to do. Even if the i7 is cheaper, like above, go with what you like better and how the build is. Both should last you for a while, but not if you get something that feels flimsy. This isn't exactly something you want to spend your money on and still have to worry.
Overall, both are fairly nice laptops spec wise, so I would really just go for what appeals to you most
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Try asking in computer thread, you might get more replies there.
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Try asking in computer thread, you might get more replies there.
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Try trolling outside OT. You can still get thanks.
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Try trolling outside OT. You can still get thanks.
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So I'm in the market for a new desktop. Its been 8 or so years since a last purchased a PC. Intel or AMD and why? Not looking for super powerhouse ultra gaming rig. Just a reliable fast family computer. I've been looking at either gateway Dx series or HP elite.
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Far better off with a custom built than any branded stuff...even if you get someone to build it for you...cheaper..in most cases more reliable and easier to repair if anything does go wrong. Mine is still going strong from a good four years ago and by strong I mean playing the latest games with ease...works out cheaper in long run too...
I know you said dont need a gaming rig...I myself dont really use it for gaming but just like to use games as a benchmark.
How much are you looking to spend?
Not a whole lot. 600 to 700. Buy.com has a gateway I was checking out. Dx 4320_17. 600 shipped.
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Dude...
1. You live in the US. Heard of newegg.com? It'll save you a few hundred bucks. Just come back with the specs that you want and I'll help you balance the thing.
2. I personally support AMD (underdog syndrome), but you should support Intel at the moment (the Core i7 is awesome, and so is the Sandy Bridge series). AMD might have Bulldozer to brag about, but until it arrives in the market, I can't see the benefit.
3. For mid-range usage, AMD will definitely trump Intel when it comes to price-to-performance ratios.
4. If you wanna game a little, get a nice mobo with Crossfire and invest in a upper-mid range GPU from AMD/ATI. Once new games are semi-unplayable, invest in another GPU and Crossfire that rig. Their Crossfire solutions are much better than NVIDIA can ever claim to reach.
5. Invest in a good 20+" monitor. You'll love me for this.
I've never done a build your own system. I'm after something like a phenom x4 or x6, 1tb hd, 8gb ram. There are a couple on newegg in the do it yourself section that look pretty damn close to what I'm after. I just don't know good components from so so components. Like what type of ram, what brand motherboard. That kinda stuff.
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Check Woot.com
I would say occasionally check sites like woot.com or slick deals and just
find the best deal you can on the PC with a decent amount of RAM and disk space. Even if you aren't heavy into games RAM, Disk space will be your friends. Im more of an intel fan boy myself so I would suggest an i3 or even an older dual core will do the job as well.
Problem is if you don't already have a monitor/keyboard - that $500.00 at Newegg is going to get you the same type of computer you'd already be purchasing.
My recommendation is to get the HP vs. the Gateway. I've worked on both types and the new HP's seem to be using a little bit better of quality equipment. Sure the onboard everything blows... but you could in the future rip out the mother board and get a video/sound card later.
Just make sure your not getting some funky type of mini-ATX setup otherwise you'll be throwing out the computer within a few years.
For a decent home built system you'd need about $1000.00
$200.00 for a monitor
$ 50-100.00 for the case
$ 100-200.00 for the PSU
$ 100 for a Vid Card
$ 75-100.00 for Mobo
$ 80-200.00 for CPU
$ 80-200.00 for Memory
$ 50.00 for decent keyboard/mouse
You can play with the amounts... but you would want to "future-proof" and try and get components that you can upgrade later.
I figure the mouse and keyboard I can use from my current setup. Both logitech. Same with my 23"monitor. Or I could run hdmi to my 58"plasma. So I'm cool there. The mobo looks like its amd 880 series. Mid tower. phenom II 6 core. 700 w psu. Blu ray. 8gb ram. For about $600.
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think about sandy bridge cpu's. great performance and very good for it's price.
Amd powa
For Dell,
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...1&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=inspiron-570
HP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147692
Prebuilt with a monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103350
For a monitor, find one on newegg for cheap.
Check out Newegg's combo deals:
http://www.newegg.com/Special/Combo...o&action=search&SortField=0&PageSize=50&Page=
This one looks good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.569868
one thing to be careful though, the PCIE slot is 16x and 4x, which means the second card will be crippled.
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Check out Newegg's combo deals:
http://www.newegg.com/Special/Combo...o&action=search&SortField=0&PageSize=50&Page=
This one looks good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.569868
one thing to be careful though, the PCIE slot is 16x and 4x, which means the second card will be crippled.
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The first and second slots probably aren't even gonna be used...
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The first and second slots probably aren't even gonna be used...
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I recommended that unit because it is quite future proof. 700w, Phenom II x6, decent mobo for single card GPU. It caters to the power user while having the potential to upgrade to a upper-mainstream gaming rig.
And it is within his budget and specifications (albeit not the 8GB RAM).
sakai4eva said:
Check out Newegg's combo deals:
http://www.newegg.com/Special/Combo...o&action=search&SortField=0&PageSize=50&Page=
This one looks good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.569868
one thing to be careful though, the PCIE slot is 16x and 4x, which means the second card will be crippled.
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Funny. I've had that one in my cart for three days to compare to others.
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Funny. I've had that one in my cart for three days to compare to others.
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The combo is kinda ok if you are not planning on going crossfire. Like I said, the major weakness of the mobo is that it runs on 16x+4x crossfire, instead of 16x+16x slots. I am using its predecessor. My next major upgrade will be a mobo that does REAL crossfire instead
No crossfire here. I don't do pc gaming anymore. At least not enough to warrant a crossfire setup. A single 5870 will be 10 times what I need.
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No crossfire here. I don't do pc gaming anymore. At least not enough to warrant a crossfire setup. A single 5870 will be 10 times what I need.
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You should probably go for a higher end GPU if you can afford it. Saves upgrading in the long run and flexibility to support multi-monitor setup later.
hey guys, i have a laptop but i want to upgrade my processor. my laptop is.. well.. not the best lol. The make it quick and short. I have a hp-pavilion DV4 laptop Specs:
Processor: AMD Turion (tm) X2 Ultra- Dual Core Mobile ZM-80 2.10 Ghz
RAM: 4.00 GB
i would like to know if i should get a intel i3 (if i can even run it ) or what should i change or is this the best processor i can get? ive been reading online but its confusing , so i asked here because im trying to learn how to dev and i want a good laptop
i Hope i dont get flamed, thanks !
Ok let me put this simple you can put an intel chip in a amd socket. Its like puting gasoline in a diesel truck. Simply doesnt work or fit for that matter
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Go to page 126 u will see your choices in amd proccessors nothing really a whole lot better you should stick with what you got. Its not worth it, save your money get a better laptop.
Google is your friend this was the 3rd link barely had to even search.
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http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01597750.pdf
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That and you can't really upgrade a laptop. 1. no one sells processors for them. And 2. Cracking open the laptop to get to the processor will void any possible warranty it might have.
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I agree with the above posts. Its not worth upgrading a lap top. Just get a new one
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Okay, thanks guys. Anyone know a good laptop but on the cheap side? Lol thanks again
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Okay, thanks guys. Anyone know a good laptop but on the cheap side? Lol thanks again
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Your best bet is to get a deal off ebay ive goten a bunch at like 4 in the morning because theres alot less people to compete with. If your looking for something cheap its not going to be powerful same thing in phone world too. If your lucky you could mabe get a laptop with a broken screen and replace the screen and save a bunch but you have to do alot of research. Stay away from dv7s and dv6000s and dv9000s they have video chip issues where they stop showing video(hps version of the red ring of death). Craigslist might be a good idea too becouse when people are poor they sell **** for what ever they can get but craigslist has no return policy like paypal and ebay do. Good luck i hope i gave you some good insight.
Its all really just statistics. Lol
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That and you can't really upgrade a laptop. 1. no one sells processors for them. And 2. Cracking open the laptop to get to the processor will void any possible warranty it might have.
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Not always true. I have an Acer that the CPU can be upgraded. I found a faster one on newegg but didn't get it. You need to do your homework before buying crap too. Know the CPU, chipset, form factor of the CPU, etc. You will also produce more heat and consume more battery with a bigger engine in it. You might be able to go the route of replacing the hard drive with a solid state and faster/lower cas ram. I think you'll notice more of a speed improvement with those two things than just a CPU. Put the maximum amount of ram your laptop chipset can support. Get matched ram (don't mix different brands and models of ram). My old 1.2 c2d Intel Acer can run circles around my gf's laptop that is years newer and faster CPU than mine. I just put the maximum, fastest, matched ram in it, a 7200rpm drive with a bigger cache, Arctic silver heat sink compound on the CPU, gpu, and (I forgot the third major chip, I'm having a brain fart). I also put an old and small heat sink on the brain fart chip. Hers is like maybe a 2.2 newer generation dual core Intel and mine is still quicker. I don't know why but it is. Way back when,I did a lot of research before I bought the Acer and knew under it's hood was no slouch for the price. It wasn't no alien ware but it was decent.
Why don't you post your budget, and what you plan on using the laptop for? I'm sure people will be more than happy to suggest stuff to you if they come across something!
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hey guys, i have a laptop but i want to upgrade my processor. my laptop is.. well.. not the best lol. The make it quick and short. I have a hp-pavilion DV4 laptop Specs:
Processor: AMD Turion (tm) X2 Ultra- Dual Core Mobile ZM-80 2.10 Ghz
RAM: 4.00 GB
i would like to know if i should get a intel i3 (if i can even run it ) or what should i change or is this the best processor i can get? ive been reading online but its confusing , so i asked here because im trying to learn how to dev and i want a good laptop
i Hope i dont get flamed, thanks !
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If you want to dev on a laptop, you need something of the i5 or i7 range, as compiling takes a lot of CPU and RAM. However, for the price of a good laptop, you could get a really good computer. I would recommend building your own over a laptop, but if it has to be a laptop, something in the $700 range would be good.
Look at Samsung's ultrabooks.
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If you want to dev on a laptop, you need something of the i5 or i7 range, as compiling takes a lot of CPU and RAM. However, for the price of a good laptop, you could get a really good computer. I would recommend building your own over a laptop, but if it has to be a laptop, something in the $700 range would be good.
Look at Samsung's ultrabooks.
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Exactly
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If you want a good laptop with build quality in mind, look for Asus and Lenovo ones with a Sandy bridge processor along with a Nvidia GPU.
I personally like the Asus G & K series along with the Lenovo Y series (570).
Going to warn you that if you build your own then watch out for pricing. Currently most of the tech companies are overpricing everything due to the thailand lfoods and shortages of HDD's.
But if you do decide to make your own computer, visit places such as tomshardware.com / overclockers.net / hardocp.com / anandtech.com and ask around...
Just sayin
DonutGrunt said:
If you want to dev on a laptop, you need something of the i5 or i7 range, as compiling takes a lot of CPU and RAM. However, for the price of a good laptop, you could get a really good computer. I would recommend building your own over a laptop, but if it has to be a laptop, something in the $700 range would be good.
Look at Samsung's ultrabooks.
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I feel like building one now lol, im done with laptops
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I would never build a laptop. I always preferred building desktops lmao
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locoboi187 said:
I would never build a laptop. I always preferred building desktops lmao
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He never even said he was building a laptop
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OP your laptop sounds fine hardware wise, check your software if you're having issues.
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I feel like building one now lol, im done with laptops
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If you feel like building one, feel free to PM me, i will help you with practically anything you need. I've built around 10 PC's for family, friends and myself.
Currently have an
i5 2500k
GTX 570
4 GB DDR3 RAM
120 GB SSD
500 GB 7200 RPM HDD
I once picked out parts for my cousin that lived in New York, me in Minnesota and helped him build his own through the phone. Granted it took 3 hours, but he loves it.
It's not exactly complicated, it's just like building Lego's
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OP your laptop sounds fine hardware wise, check your software if you're having issues.
I don't think I'm having hardware issues
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If you feel like building one, feel free to PM me, i will help you with practically anything you need. I've built around 10 PC's for family, friends and myself.
Currently have an
i5 2500k
GTX 570
4 GB DDR3 RAM
120 GB SSD
500 GB 7200 RPM HDD
I once picked out parts for my cousin that lived in New York, me in Minnesota and helped him build his own through the phone. Granted it took 3 hours, but he loves it.
It's not exactly complicated, it's just like building Lego's
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sent!
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You will find all the answers to your questions here....I'm a member there and would be happy to help
I have been looking for a new laptop but can't decide, I'll list specs that I'd want for my future laptop:
Intel i7 processor
500gb+ hdd
4gb+ ram
1gb dedicated graphics
1920x1080 resolution
at least 5+ hr battery life
under 6lb
Thats about it. Any help would be appreciated .
dkris2020 said:
I have been looking for a new laptop but can't decide, I'll list specs that I'd want for my future laptop:
Intel i7 processor
500gb+ hdd
4gb+ ram
1gb dedicated graphics
1920x1080 resolution
at least 5+ hr battery life
under 6lb
Thats about it. Any help would be appreciated .
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Alienware? What kind of gpu?
AOKP 4 LYF
Do you have a budget or are you rich? Laptops are so expensive!
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I always recommend to my friends, Dell.
Good quality and prices (No, i don't work for Dell )
I just ordered an HP with an i7 quad core processor (2.4Ghz)
an HD screen
2GB Radeon Graphics card
A dual drive (160GB SSD/500GB HDD)
8GB RAM
9 cell battery
and a 17.3 screen
It cost a crap load though
I'll post pics when it gets here
But it isn't under 6lbs.
Maybe a Dell XPS? They are lighter
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macbook, i know the prices are high and the specs arent the best but my 06 macbook runs like brand new seriously all my friends and i got new laptops after graduating in 06 i got a macbook n they all bought a pc type, now 6 years later they all went through 2-3 laptops and ended up giving in n buying a macbook now they are all fans of it n love it no problems so far
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Alienware? What kind of gpu?
AOKP 4 LYF
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Idk which is better, AMD Radeon or NVIDIA geforce?
det1988 said:
macbook, i know the prices are high and the specs arent the best but my 06 macbook runs like brand new seriously all my friends and i got new laptops after graduating in 06 i got a macbook n they all bought a pc type, now 6 years later they all went through 2-3 laptops and ended up giving in n buying a macbook now they are all fans of it n love it no problems so far
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I heard that for durability macbooks are the way to go and for max performance (what I need) PC's are better. Im also a big DIY person so I need a laptop that when the warranty ends, I can take it apart without much hassle. At one time i wanted a macbook but I just dont feel like its for me.
Samsung nowadays has cheap/budget laptops with great specs. But sad that when it comes to laptops, everyone only thinks about Dell, Sony Vaio, HP, etc..
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Samsung nowadays has cheap/budget laptops with great specs. But sad that when it comes to laptops, everyone only thinks about Dell, Sony Vaio, HP, etc..
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I found 2 laptops that im interested in: Samsung series 7 chronos and ASUS N55SF I liked the Samsung cause it was portable and powerful and same for the ASUS.
I don't see whats wrong with dell, Im using a dell that I've had for almost 4 years even though at one point it broke but it wasn't my fault. Dells in my opinion seem like they can take a beating and keep on running my processor gets average ratings in the windows score index and overall there weren't any major problems that I've had with Dell
Any Samgsung series 7 or 9 are REALLY nice. i'd definietly recommend em.
Without any doubt Dells are good. But due to their Brand name, the offer price is high and when compared to Samsung, not only the price is less, but also you'll get major increment in the hardware specs.
An example should be a Dell Inspiron comes with :-
Intel core i3 2nd gen/3GB RAM/320GB HDD/14" screen/1.3MP cam/No OS/Glossy screen
whereas a Samsung (no idea about model) comes with :-
Intel core i3 2nd gen/4GB RAM/750GB HDD/15" screen(with numpad keys)/1.3MP cam/No OS/Matt-finish non reflective screen
And the price is, Samsung still is under for some penny's than Dell Inspiron.
Not sure whether its true, but heard Samsung provides "their own" produced hardwares to their Laptops except processor. But in case of Dell/HP/Vaio the HDD should be Seagate/Samsung or RAM should be of Transcend's.
Just don't buy any Toshiba...
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I just ordered an HP with an i7 quad core processor (2.4Ghz)
an HD screen
2GB Radeon Graphics card
A dual drive (160GB SSD/500GB HDD)
8GB RAM
9 cell battery
and a 17.3 screen
It cost a crap load though
I'll post pics when it gets here
But it isn't under 6lbs.
Maybe a Dell XPS? They are lighter
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how much did you pay for those specs?
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how much did you pay for those specs?
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1800 about...after 450$ in in instant rebates
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stamatis16 said:
Just don't buy any Toshiba...
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why not? me and my dad both have toshiba laptops, they're the most reliable things ever.
Babydoll25 said:
1800 about...after 450$ in in instant rebates
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That's a lot... Did you use coupon?
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Babydoll25 said:
1800 about...after 450$ in in instant rebates
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If I had the same amount, I would go for Alienware m15
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6075916 said:
If I had the same amount, I would go for Alienware m15
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I would avoid Alienware like the plague, they're just a pretty looking Dell with a different sticker on it.
Personally I use:
http://www.hhgregg.com/asus-laptop-pc-with-intel-i7-2670qm-processor/item/G74SXRH71
ASUS ROG. I have the next step up from this model. They run cold, quiet, and are just straight up beast for the money.
~Jasecloud4
iynfynity said:
That's a lot... Did you use coupon?
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Yes. I went to LogicBuy first. The savings without it was 100$ less.
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So im headed off to college I currently have a Vaio with a core duo processor it is running windows 7 but its kinda falling apart. I already had to replace the fan. I'm looking for a new laptop and want some advice on what to get. I'm an engineering student so CAD is a consideration. I'm thinking ultrabook. Thank you.
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DJ1994 said:
So im headed off to college I currently have a Vaio with a core duo processor it is running windows 7 but its kinda falling apart. I already had to replace the fan. I'm looking for a new laptop and want some advice on what to get. I'm an engineering student so CAD is a consideration. I'm thinking ultrabook. Thank you.
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What kind of budget are you looking at?
I'll take all suggestions. I think its relatively high my parents are helping.
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I'll take all suggestions. I think its relatively high my parents are helping.
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Alright well in that case I will throw up some links for you to some good laptops.
Don't skimp on RAM. 8 gigs is my minimum, 16 is better. Windows 7 (and 8) will run a lot better with more RAM.
ASUS R500VM-MS71 It is $800 at Micro Center and is an awesome laptop. This is the one I personally own.
MSI G Series GE60 - $1,200 from Newegg
Check out more at Newegg just make sure to sort by rating.
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ASUS R500VM-MS71 It is $800 at Micro Center and is an awesome laptop. This is the one I personally own.
MSI G Series GE60 - $1,200 from Newegg
Check out more at Newegg just make sure to sort by rating.
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That first one looks like an awesome deal I'll have to keep it under consideration but I do like the idea of a smaller screen and an ssd that is why I was thinking Ultrabook. I really do appreciate the help you are giving me.
DJ1994 said:
That first one looks like an awesome deal I'll have to keep it under consideration but I do like the idea of a smaller screen and an ssd that is why I was thinking Ultrabook. I really do appreciate the help you are giving me.
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I'm actually going to be throwing a SSD into my laptop. Even without it though it is really quick. Plus it has dual video cards. The standard Intel card runs when you are doing simple stuff like browsing the web to save power. Once you start something that is graphics intensive the Nvidia GT 630M kicks in.
I play Diablo 3 on max settings on this thing just fine.
Hp envy spectare is something that you would like.. i am an architect so i use AutoCAD all the time.. this thing handles it well.. I've seen my collegues useing it..
But my personal suggesstion don't go for much small screen if you use CAD..
Buy a msi GE60-0ND-042US.. I use it personally and I'm happy with it in all aspects..
I went to best buy today to look around and I really like the series 9 and the new zenbook. I'm really into the idea of an ultrabook
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Has anyone heard about this rumor before? Intel entering into the mobile market with a non-ARM cpu? Am I reading this correctly, its possibly four times the performance of a Snapdragon 800 CPU, and 64bit to boot?
http://www.examiner.com/article/nexus-8-tablet-could-debut-intel-64-bit-processor-for-android
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Has anyone heard about this rumor before? Intel entering into the mobile market with a non-ARM cpu? Am I reading this correctly, its possibly four times the performance of a Snapdragon 800 CPU, and 64bit to boot?
http://www.examiner.com/article/nexus-8-tablet-could-debut-intel-64-bit-processor-for-android
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Damnit, just when I "find" a procesor I can trust (LG G2's Snap 800 is awesome), the next Nexus tablet might not use it.
I guess if this is true, I'll be holding off for a while after it intros to upgrade from my 2012 to the new one.
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Damnit, just when I "find" a procesor I can trust (LG G2's Snap 800 is awesome), the next Nexus tablet might not use it.
I guess if this is true, I'll be holding off for a while after it intros to upgrade from my 2012 to the new one.
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LOL, Yeah I agree... All of a sudden my decision not to upgrade to the 2013 N7 seems like was perfectly warranted. WOW, kinda hard to wrap my head around 4 times the performance. Lets hope its not at the cost of 4 times the power consumption, hahaha. Even with a bigger battery it might get to warm to carry around without using it outdoors in a stiff wind. lol
Seems like a kinda far-fetched rumor.
Hummmmmm Really????
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Seems like a kinda far-fetched rumor.
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I was thinking the same thing.. But it was 70 two days ago then the next day 12 deg with 2 inches of snow ..
Nothing Surprises me anymore.
Intel has already announced the CPU family weeks ago, and it is no longer a rumor. They have one called the Merrifield Z3480, which is a dual-core and runs at 2.13 Ghz, and another Called Moorefield Z3580, which is Quad-core and runs at 2.35 ghz. Both are native 64bit processor SoC's and combine many of the devices needed to perform mobile functions.
Here’s a look at the Intel Z3480 Merrifield SoC:
2.13 GHz dual-core 64-bit-ready SoC (Intel’s 22nm process technology on Silvermont microarchitecture)
13 MP support hardware-capable; 8 MP enabled on Form Factor Device (FFD)
LPDDR3 memory, 2×32 bit, up to 4 GB; 8.5 GB/s
USB 3.0; eMMC 4.5
Android 4.4.2 OS support
1080p 60 fps video recording and playback
H.265 (HEVC) and VP9 support <--- This is amazing
Imagination PowerVR G6400 GPU
Intel Mobile Wireless Display (Intel WiDi)
Intel XMM 7160 LTE Modem for 4G, 3G and 2G
Bluetooth 4.0 low energy, Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n/ac)
Digital Rights Management (DRM) support
HDCP 2.x for premium content over HDMI
http://www.intomobile.com/2014/02/2...aimed-tablets-and-smartphones-z3480-and-z3580
The only thing hard to believe for me is the fact that Nexus may get it. I mean a SoC like this is bound to be expensive, right? Intel isn't known for supplying cheap processors. I would think just the SoC alone is going to be $200. No?
Looks like there is also talk of a Nexus 6... My only question is are these devices just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger????
Seems like soon we will have the nexus tablets with 15 inch screens!! I like the size of my n7 and I hope they keep it.
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Looks like there is also talk of a Nexus 6... My only question is are these devices just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger????
Seems like soon we will have the nexus tablets with 15 inch screens!! I like the size of my n7 and I hope they keep it.
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I think eight inch is better than seven. 6" 8" and 10" seems perfect. They do not design these to cover a need, they design them to sell them. Sadly, humans think when a number goes higher it is automatically better. Even when you realize its not, your brain continues to work that way. If they released another Nexus 7, it would not sell as much as the new Nexus 8.
8" could be done the same size as the nexus 7. Might not be too bad. Personally I'd like something bigger for NY next tablet but I don't want an Intel processor. They are usually weaker on graphics and some apps are not compatible.
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Also think about what LG is doing with bezels... You could get an 8" display in the size of the Nexus 7 frame today, or with very little increase in size.
Not saying LG is the OEM or anything, but bezels are getting smaller and smaller, which means larger screens in the same overall device size.
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6" 8" and 10" seems perfect.
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negative, a 6" phone is too big for many people.
also i've heard the new intel chips will be no good for the custom ROM community: http://androidcommunity.com/intels-...g-trouble-for-android-customization-20140317/
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negative, a 6" phone is too big for many people.
also i've heard the new intel chips will be no good for the custom ROM community: http://androidcommunity.com/intels-...g-trouble-for-android-customization-20140317/
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Scary, but not surprising coming from Intel. The more I think about it the more I don't like the idea of an Intel processor. Too many bad memories of the crappy atom processors in netbooks don't help.
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Also think about what LG is doing with bezels... You could get an 8" display in the size of the Nexus 7 frame today, or with very little increase in size.
Not saying LG is the OEM or anything, but bezels are getting smaller and smaller, which means larger screens in the same overall device size.
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Yeah, I like that idea about less bezel, but I also do not want zero bezel, or some of your fingers flesh while holding it could get in the way. Maybe 1/8 or 1/4 wide bezel, no more. I just know I want a 8" or 9" screen tablet for doing business while I am still in bed. I usually wake up about 5 hours after going to bed, and I can't keep from checking email, paypal, ebay, replying to client questions and customer concerns, etc. I spend 45 minutes every morning and I find the screen and font sizes too small on the N7. I know I can change font sizes, but it just don't fit right. I think another inch, or inch and a half, would make it a little bit better to do business while my eyes are still tired. After 45 minutes my eyes are extremely sore from the constant focusing, and trying to read. Maybe larger fonts and more screen real-estate and my eyes wouldn't get so tired. And I feel that 10" may be just a little too big to snuggle with, lol... But I don't know...
Yeah a 6" phone would be stupid. So, maybe a 5" phone tops, 8" tablet and a 11", to replace the 10?
Oh, and why on earth would it not be good for custom roms and Intel processors? The worlds best chip maker and no one wants one in their mobile device? I would think the source would still be released regardless of the chip type and maker.
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Oh, and why on earth would it not be good for custom roms and Intel processors? The worlds best chip maker and no one wants one in their mobile device? I would think the source would still be released regardless of the chip type and maker.
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Then you need to read up. Intel has a bad reputation in the past with Linux and their atom chip. They are also known for locking down features and building things mainly for Windows.
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Then you need to read up. Intel has a bad reputation in the past with Linux and their atom chip. They are also known for locking down features and building things mainly for Windows.
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Yes, I am well aware of their past Atom woes. But that does not automatically mean these new processors will suffer the same fate.
And it looks possible that Google may have tapped HTC to manufacture this beast...
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/544578/20140324/nexus-8-10-2-release-date-specs.htm#.Uy_kgVTdWBM