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All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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I've only had mine for 12hrs so far ..... don't want to jinx anything so I'll leave it at that for now I'll get back to you in a week.
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All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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I think most people who get a defective unit complain... while most that don't have no reason to post that they rec'd a great product. I myself have a flawless one as well. Plus 5 of my friends...
I'm about to be on my third and my patience is starting to run thin. May keep the next one regardless and RMA direct with Asus. Scary that I'm actually expecting it to be faulty and hope its broken enough for RMA.
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I have no issues with either of mine (both are 16g pre order units.)
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No issues here.
99% of the noise is either people with WAY out of kilter expectations for a £160 tablet, or are simply Apple shills.
You also have to consider that on forums like this, you will only ever hear from people with problems. Nobody comes here to say things are running fine.
Every device has manufacturing issues for sure, but considering the high numbers of Nexus7 devices shipped, and the rock-bottom pricing, it's actually rather good. Although try telling gutter press reporters like The Register and Engadget this, they will stir up an old crap if it means website hits. Both sites have destroyed their credibility in recent years over desperate fanboy reporting.
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All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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Mine is 100% perfect. The couple of people that I know personally with N7's have no issues either. I'm starting to think there is a lot more fiction than fact in these forums.
No issues at all. Screen is flush. Ran a display test and no dead pixels. All is well
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had the thing less than 24 hrs:
screen good no dead pixels or flicker or construction problems
headphone socket seems ok
speaker volume in the normal range
only quandary is which gel case to buy ...
You sure you have a flawless nexus 7? Please make a video and post it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789450
Download the multitouch test app, put your tablet on the table and make the axis cross, like in the OP video.
Thank you very much, we really need your feedback to know if we should RMA it. Cheers!
Nope. Mine is flawless.
Another 100% perfect tablet here. This is my first tablet and I have to say that it is unbelievable, especially at this price point. I really think that both the hardware and software on this thing gives us a snapshot into the future of these devices.
I already want to integrate jellybean into some sort of home automation system. With Google Now the possibilities are very cool.
Everything is great except looking on the centre of the left long side the screen is like half a mm lifted but don't mind it and wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't know what to look for
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I to have a good unit. Got paranoid, thought I had dead pixel, but it was a speck of dirt.
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Got to play with a brand new one for a week, flawless.. I've now seen 3 additional units, they look ok as well.
Don't know of anyone personally who has one with any issues yet. None of these people use forums.
Via my HTC Rezound
After a few hours fine so far, touch wood.
No dead/stuck pixels.
No sign of screen lift, though I gather this may not be immediately evident.
Don't notice any ghosting.
Thought headphone socket was broken till I realised you need to push a bit harder than I'm used to on other devices to get them to click in place.
Only small glitch was while undergoing a lot of switching between different wifi options (testing speeds on home wifi, mobile tether blue tooth tether etc) settings force closed and sound stopped working till after reboot.
Free content is junk like I expected.
After unlocking bootloader used another email seem to have a second offering of credit. Didn't have card registered so it says I'll get credit when I register a card. Will wait till I have used first credit and know more about any repercussions for this.
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I got a good one.Everything works well and I am very pleased with it.
Of course I am older that a lot of you guys and might just not be so picky about things that don't matter to me.:laugh:
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You sure you have a flawless nexus 7? Please make a video and post it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789450
Download the multitouch test app, put your tablet on the table and make the axis cross, like in the OP video.
Thank you very much, we really need your feedback to know if we should RMA it. Cheers!
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Why should someone seek out a defect they wouldn't ordinarily notice or care about? Yes, you can be a hypochondriac when it comes to electronics too. Realistically we all have "something wrong" with us at any given time, and the same thing can be said about your electronic device.
Each and every device (not just N7s) out there has some kind of "minor defect" (and by that I mean doesn't work precisely as the owner might expect). The point is, owner who aren't obsessed about having a "perfect" device don't run 20 different diagnostic apps to try to hunt down that "defect".
I'm not saying every person who complains about a defect is a hypochondriac, there are definitively a select few real issues out there just like their always have been and always will be with every electronic device. However, there are many many more people who will just never be pleased, like those who have had multiple RMAs.
I have had mine since the 17th, no problems yet.
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16 gig pre-order from the PS and I haven't noticed any issues
So I got my phone yesterday evening at 7pm from the UPS driver and of course it was the latest I had ever received a package!
Anyways, all I have to say is that getting a phone from the "second wave" seems to have been a great thing because I have had ZERO issues at all so far. Right away I looked over the entire phone for any cosmetic defects that have been reported and nothing was found wrong. The screen IMO is amazing and colors look perfect as well. There is NO yellow tint whatsoever and I even had my GF look at it to make sure. Battery is already better than my former Blaze 4G and that's saying something. This phone is definitely a fresh start from the touchwiz ui and made me realize that was really kiddish looking like IOS IMO. The camera takes pictures just fine although I am still trying to figure out all the features on it. The phone got pretty warm on initial start up when all of my apps were being installed from the Play store but after that, normal browsing and such did not make it any warmer than anything i have felt before in other phones. Finally, there is NO buzzing in my earpiece at all, and yes my hearing is good, this again I had my GF check too so I knew I was not crazy.
So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks
That's great to hear. I also ordered a N4 from the second batch and I can't wait for it to be here. Nice review
Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks
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Grats on getting your phone; you're gonna love it.
I got mine a week after the initial ordering and my phone is perfect, so I don't know about any second waves or anything like that. There are always going to be phones with manufacturing-related defects; that's why they do exchanges. Don't get hung up on a few people who think their phones are s**t.
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Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
I have my nexus 4 from the first wave ( received it on the 19th) and never got any issues with it.
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Yep, loving mine.
Coming from a s2 and then a s3 I had for 2 weeks.. The things I thought would bother me really don't.
I rooted to restor backups and I love vanilla Android, probably won't even do any rom'ing
I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.
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I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.
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Second wave myself. No issues. I love this phone. Just thinking of how to customize the first page. I can't make it look too much like my old phone.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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lol
I got my 2 Nexus 4's yesterday. The one seems fine, but I have an issue with the 2nd one. During calls, the earpiece buzzes while making sounds. The earpiece does not make any sounds when it is off like a lot of people seem to report. This is strictly a problem during calls and it sounds like the speaker is blown. It does rattle a bit when I'm putting it on a table or whatnot, but that doesn't really bother me.
Called support yesterday, and they were supposed to send me an e-mail with instructions on sending this one back and getting a replacement, but haven't actually received anything from them.
I seem to have some kind of knack for getting bad phones from Google. I had ordered 2 Galaxy Nexus phones when they came out, and ended up getting a replacement for one of the phones because there was dust in the camera. The replacement had the wifi go out, so I had to get that one replaced. The third one actually had a similar buzzing issue with the earpiece but it wasn't as bad, and I was tired of dealing with them at that point, so I lived with it.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Why reply if you don't care? Not sure of what your point is..
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Just speaking a link?
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He's correcting the man's grammar.
Watch the video.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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I get what you are saying, but he is still literally correct.
I'm sure he could care less, otherwise he wouldn't have an N4. If he cared less:
- he could have not bought the phone
- he could leave it at a bus stop and go on living
- etc. etc.
Now, I'm sure he could care a hell of a lot MORE about it, taking to the internet in fits of rage, driving to Mountain View and knocking on the front door and such. But still, he could also care less.
Just saying.
Received mine yesterday and it has zero flaw. I don't take the mini rattle as one as it comes from the camera (autofocus?) and all the phones I tested since learning that on this forum have it.
For those of you wondering if the bumper is worth 20 euros, it's definitely well made, perfectly fits the look of the phone and prevents the back from direct contact but... well, the phone has a perfect size for my hand and the bumper adds about 0.5 - 0.7 cm in width which makes it awkward to hold. I find myself removing it often when using my phone.
My 2 cents.
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Does your phone have touch sensitive issue?
Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.
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Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.
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I don't have any issues whatsoever from the 1st batch. The more you try to look for something to be wrong the higher the chance that something unnoticeable will begin to irritate you lol.
Zero issues with the first batch. But if these phones get better with each batch, imagine the 50th batch!
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I have tried to convert 5 people which some had iPhones and rest Samsung and HTC phones. Now in every case I sold their old like 2011 phones and got them a nexus 4 and spending no more than 50 bucks tops to get a nexus 4 8gb. Almost every convert is a failure, most would prefer there old phone back. THIS IS INSANITY!!! now the I sheep I can somewhat understand but the Samsung and HTC just boggled the mind.
Now maybe I'm biased but I hate everything Samsung and HTC does software wise. Its like skinning windows I just don't see the need and why add more code on top and your not even a software company. Most buyers know nothing about android so does it really matter if android was just stock. Maybe work with Google on something's but these ui's just suck in my opinion. All I see it as a forced attempt to be different. Who is forcing this I don't know.
Now I know people don't want to take the time to learn and get used to their ways but something must be wrong ( definitely with those people ) with android. Sometimes I think its too advanced. We talk about isheep but a lot of them know how to use their phones well. Maybe this is why apple keeps iOS the same.
I bought a used nexus 4 for 240 the other day guy told me he couldn't sell it higher I was shocked. This is an unlocked phone and its cheap. People are going into these stores signing two year agreements on already over a year old phones.
Is Google afraid to educate people and push stock android forward. Tell people the truth you can do prepaid and get the same service and stop getting raped every month. All these other hardware makers need Google there really is no other os ( windows phone, yeah right ). Say what you will about apple they get there updates all at the same time and they know when the new iPhone is out. All this different ui stuff just confuses people.
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i recently tried to convert my gf's sister from iphone and failed miserably. She really hate the phone coz apparently she was having trouble with group text and the battery couldn't last her a whole day. I sat her down and reconfigure her phone as much as i can in addition to showing her all the cool things androids can do. All i get at the end of the day was: i still like my iphone better i think i am gonna use that instead of this phone.
i cried :crying:
Used Nexus 4 phones around these parts go for a mint; often more than what the Play store sells them for! As far as converts, some folks are just really "hung up" on their current devices; whether it be with the operating system/their own set o apps (iOS), or they are caught up with the high specs/sensationalism of their current devices (S3, HTC One X, etc). Hard to say.
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i recently tried to convert my gf's sister from iphone and failed miserably. She really hate the phone coz apparently she was having trouble with group text and the battery couldn't last her a whole day. I sat her down and reconfigure her phone as much as i can in addition to showing her all the cool things androids can do. All i get at the end of the day was: i still like my iphone better i think i am gonna use that instead of this phone.
i cried :crying:
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Yeah once upon a time I swore by blackberry until it came time to buy another phone and 4g was out. I said I'm not paying 200 bucks and sign a new agreement for this. Got a Samsung Galaxy 2 then one day rooted. Then ice cream sand which came loved that over crappy touchwiz. Then I learned and waited for Samsung to release new kernel and eventually realized that if I want stock android buy stock android. If I want updates some time in the same year buy a nexus. Gal nex then to 4. There is no better option for me, I wish I had choices but right now its one nexus a year.
So in a lot of ways I am just like an iPhone user.
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I don't even try to convert people...I tell people about it but everyone is like "I never heard of it" or "but I want the galaxy s3" or some crap...hell even phone salesmen have never even heard of this phone in these parts...so I just say OK what ever keep your subpar phone or phone that your stuck with for 2 years I have a bad ass phone that that I didn't get suckered into for 2 years and paid the same price for...and it has a better processor with more ram and it gets updated software in a timely manner...though that's not much of a selling point for most people I know since they all ignore the updates any damn way.
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I have tried to convert 5 people which some had iPhones and rest Samsung and HTC phones. Now in every case I sold their old like 2011 phones and got them a nexus 4 and spending no more than 50 bucks tops to get a nexus 4 8gb. Almost every convert is a failure, most would prefer there old phone back. THIS IS INSANITY!!! now the I sheep I can somewhat understand but the Samsung and HTC just boggled the mind.
Now maybe I'm biased but I hate everything Samsung and HTC does software wise. Its like skinning windows I just don't see the need and why add more code on top and your not even a software company. Most buyers know nothing about android so does it really matter if android was just stock. Maybe work with Google on something's but these ui's just suck in my opinion. All I see it as a forced attempt to be different. Who is forcing this I don't know.
Now I know people don't want to take the time to learn and get used to their ways but something must be wrong ( definitely with those people ) with android. Sometimes I think its too advanced. We talk about isheep but a lot of them know how to use their phones well. Maybe this is why apple keeps iOS the same.
I bought a used nexus 4 for 240 the other day guy told me he couldn't sell it higher I was shocked. This is an unlocked phone and its cheap. People are going into these stores signing two year agreements on already over a year old phones.
Is Google afraid to educate people and push stock android forward. Tell people the truth you can do prepaid and get the same service and stop getting raped every month. All these other hardware makers need Google there really is no other os ( windows phone, yeah right ). Say what you will about apple they get there updates all at the same time and they know when the new iPhone is out. All this different ui stuff just confuses people.
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Hey, I say thank you to those types. If it wasn't for those people coming from iPhones I would not have been able to get 3 16gb nexus 4s and two charging orbs for 1000 flat. The average age of each phone? 4 days old.
You're a hobbyist, just accept that other people have different interests than you do.
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Hey, I say thank you to those types. If it wasn't for those people coming from iPhones I would not have been able to get 3 16gb nexus 4s and two charging orbs for 1000 flat. The average age of each phone? 4 days old.
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Man maybe I should have cruised Craigslist lol
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If a phone is doing what a person needs it to then what reason is there for them to change to a new one?
Normal people will want to stick with what they want if it's working for them (to an extent, advertising will usually motivate then to "upgrade"). If you try and convert then from iPhone to Nexus or even TouchWiz to Nexus, Joe normal won't like having to go thru that learning curve of figuring out a new phone ui again.
It's just how it is. Joe normal just wants to text, make calls, receive emails and watch porn on their phone. They don't give two hoots if another phone opens apps 0.5s faster or not.
Stop trying to convert people. It's great you enjoy your Nexus 4. It doesn't mean everyone else has to.
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Ive had enough of the people around here. i think im just going to get the HTC One and live a normal life again
You gotta hand it to Apple that iOS is simple, colorful and intuitive. It's like being locked up in a golden cage and Apple decides what you are going to be fed, but still it's very simple to handle.
Samsung and HTC are trying to accomplish the same, their interface is a more colorful and simple approach to the Android experience. Not everyone likes the stock Android look! There's an enormous difference between the unexerienced and the advanced user!
I say, why bother? Coming from iPhone2g,4,4s,HOX, I love Nexus 4 the most. Android matured, it's on par with iOS and in many aspects bests it. So why bother and try to convert people. Let 'em be & just enjoy yourself. That's the way I see it.
Still the worst encounter I ever had was with an iPhone user. Me and 3 friends were just having a drink, me being the only android users the rest iPhone. So without the intention of bringing any os war up I simply said, arrgh I need a screen protector, (HTC one x back then) getting a crap load of scratches.....
Here is how it continued:
Idiot1: omg get iPhone its the best
Me: I'm happy with android its just scratches
Idiot2: man get iPhone they have best screens ever, they don't scratch, here look no scratch..
Me: *thinking: what an idiot we both have Corning gorilla glass*
Third guy was talking about how epic its features are.
In this whole conversation however, I remained calm and didn't mention anything about either phones. Cause alone the argument they had shows they have not the slightest clue about anything , not even hardware wise. They are loyal to apple and whatever they release is god sent. So there was really nothing I wanted to say. Not that I care what phone they are using, just people with no clue saying things they have no idea about
Edit: idiot2 broke up with his gf just cause she replied to s guy who asked her a question. Lolol
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i miss some of the sense widgets but thats all i miss and only cause they polish them up a little better and it doesn't look bare but it's honestly no where near enough for me to consider buying that HTC One " " especially with that whole blink feed crap (personally i hate the tiled view) but point of the post when the N4 first came out I got one for a iSheep and to this day he is way happier with it. people who are cool with going outside of their comfort zone and aren't scared to try new things will see it for what it is while people who don't want change will call out the negatives and run to their old phones again . . . ..
i really don't get why people liked their old androids better than the N4 though that does boggle my mizind
I was pissed because I saw some 65 year old dude at Chick-fil-a using a Nexus 4 and I couldn't have one. Once the supply chain got fixed and I had one of my own on stupid cheap pre-paid I was no longer mad.
I don't care about people using other phones as long as it doesn't prevent me from using mine, that is their prerogative. Ill tell them about my setup though, a bit of an evangelist, and they will still willingly sign up with AT&T to be bent-over on a plan so they can save $100 on a phone. Not my problem though, I dont pay their phone bill either.
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i miss some of the sense widgets but thats all i miss and only cause they polish them up a little better and it doesn't look bare but it's honestly no where near enough for me to consider buying that HTC One
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Originally I did too but then HD Widgets came along (now I only use the lock screen widget though) and Google added a ton to vanilla in ICS.
Some people it's not about the phone, it's about what the phone says.
They won't buy a Nexus because they have never heard of Nexus and don't know about the image it portrays.
They buy a Samsung because it's not an iPhone, they buy an iPhone because iPhones are what the hipsters have etc etc.
I think it's funny hearing iPhone people talk about features android has had since ICS like it's a brand new thing because it just appeared on iOS.
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its ultimately about uniformity. all apple devices have the same layout, feel and functionality. all android devices arebso different that no one knows whats going on. if all android devices were offered as stock there would be no real problems. you can really blame second hand companies for jizzing up the layout and trying to be "innovative." best thing though is that apple is no longer the leader in mobiles. theyre playing catch up to android, because even with all the differences other companies are offering better specs at better prices faster than apple can keep up with, which makes me happy
why convert people to nexus? worry about your own problems
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I tried to aware people but my threads are beig closed. N4 is the most failed phone and google hid it nehind a cheap price tag.
But cheap price tag doesnt mean that the device will always help u. In this fast tech age i am using my note for over a year now. Even today i am happy with my phone which has tasted 3 major android flavors.
This is what i call a fururistic hardware and vendors dedication in making it better and better.
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!
... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.
I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?
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Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.
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GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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Well... I'm going to try and balance the score sheet here, as it seems to me, only the people who are dis-satisfied take to the internet to tell people how they feel, I thought it needs to be shown that there are many more who are happy with their device, and so I'm going to share my experience so far... Ok, so just a mere 2 full days in to ownership.
Firstly, I mentioned in another thread somewhere, that the absolute best thing about buying a new phone is the wait. The anticipation for it to arrive. That feeling of excitement is the best that being an owner of the device is ever going to be... and to me, that remains true. I for one, loved how this device was "announced" the leaks, the rumours... everything. Pure genius from Google.
So, it arrived first thing yesterday morning. My first thoughts were how nice the device felt, solid build quality, a perfect size, and very understated. Just what I was looking for.
As the day went on, I started to worry about battery life. Coming from a Note 2, which with some custom kernel and rom, I could use it all I liked all day and by the time I was going to bed I was at like 30-40% remaining, it was never a doubt for me that this was going to be an issue.... and compared to that, yes, it is an issue.... I'd like it to last all week, who wouldn't? At around 8-9 hours of ownership, I had a feeling that perhaps I should have bought the LG G2... but more on that later. Id be in heaven if that G2 battery would actually fit in there, but alas, it looks as though I'll be rocking 2300mAh for a while.
With my personal battery life reservations aside, the speed, the smoothness, and silkyness of the phone is amazing. If I picked up something with better battery life, I doubt i'd experience the same joy that this thing gives the user. I repair phones etc as a side hobby, so I see a great many of different devices (including the latest from apple) and this is the first time I can say that an android device can match, even the iphone 5s in smoothness, and that is saying a lot.
Hardware wise, I'm not seeing any negatives as I've seen reported by other users here. My screen is vibrant and clear. It beats all my previous devices, and seems to be as vibrant as anything else otherwise touted as "better"
The camera.... well, I'm no photographer. In this department, I guess I'm what you would call the average user. In phones I've actually owned, my favourite camera has been the galaxy S3. Overall image quality aside, the thing that won me on it was the shutter speed. Zero lag. On that thing, I clicked the screen, and that was the picture I got, no messing. Not so fast with the N5, but image quality wise, I can't fault it... It certainly knocks socks off my wife's galaxy nexus, and it is high quality enough to make me feel that I have no need for an actual camera for all my photoing needs. In fact, this video: http://youtu.be/Qp6clWG-b5c seems to mirror my experience with the camera here... not too shabby by my standards. I'm exceptionally pleased with the low light shots without a flash.... just the typical real life situation I find myself in when I want a photo!!
So... as the end of day 2 draws to a close, my battery life woes seem to be fading... stats like those in the attachments really give me hope... and that is still on the standard kernel and rom, although it is now rooted.
At the end of the day, when I made the choice for my next phone, my last two choices were between the N5, and LG G2... I made my N5 decision without viewing anything official through fear of it selling out. I pulled the trigger on this little sucker as soon as it went live in the play store (No way was I selling out to CPW for a 16gb) At the back of my mind, having the nexus device where I could play with all the dev's work won me over, compared to the only benefit I could see in the G2, the battery, and I'm happy to say that all feelings of doubt over whether I should have bought the G2 have gone. I'm happy with my nexus, and I feel that I will be for a long time to come. In fact, id go as far as to say, that despite the "development scene" being a major factor in my purchasing, the user experience is so good at this point, that I don't even want to flash any ROMs yet... I know the time will come for that, and that will provide me with good longevity for the device, but for now, the pure Google experience has it all... and at a bargain price too
With you, love the device.
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I'm really loving the device as well. Google did a hell of a job with 4.4. Can't wait for more custom roms!
Unlike so many others, I know how to keep my expectations in check. This phone is amazing for the money, nothing even comes close. In fact, even if it cost the same thing as my Xperia ZL ($600) it's still better.
Finally a thread that praises the Nexus 5
I swear all the threads in the last 2 days have been so depressing-- thank you for this man
ps. am also in love with Nexus 5
I think a lot of the negativity is coming from people that have the ability to buy a new phone four times a year so they're really not happy with anything. These people coming from the Moto X baffle me. I guess if you have the money to spend that's your prerogative, but it skews your perception of value. I'm coming from a One X that I bought on launch day and I'm still not eligible for an upgrade so the Nexus will be a nice bump up.
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I also get the feeling that there are a lot more new people who are hear to complain, much more than before. I got mine today and love everything about it. As much as I love my 2012 Nexus 4 & 7, this year's 5 & 7 have been outstanding.
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I think a lot of the negativity is coming from people that have the ability to buy a new phone four times a year so they're really not happy with anything. These people coming from the Moto X baffle me. I guess if you have the money to spend that's your prerogative, but it skews your perception of value. I'm coming from a One X that I bought on launch day and I'm still not eligible for an upgrade so the Nexus will be a nice bump up.
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i bet you 100 dollars that the one x had better viewing angles lol
I upgrade three or four times a year.. But I think this is the greatest phone I've used yet. It helps to resell old devices to offset costs
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I dont know why you guys need 54543 threads to both praise and hate the device. There should not be a "Love" thread because nobody cares if you guys like it or not. People who like it will get it. And for this matter, you can write reviews in amazon or anyother place where people will actually care about what you say.
A nexus 5 review thread could be useful here but hey, I am no mod, just keep "lovin"!
Anyway, smart people usually wait and see the reviews-issues before they buy a device, you wont convince them to anything and the ones who buy the phone immediately usually dont care about opinions.
I am a potential buyer but I am rather interested to buy it much later, thats why I lurk here.
^ Well said.. Who cares if someone else likes it or not.
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I didn't think I was going to be as impressed as I actually am with this device. It is like a work of art. This is totally a flagship device. The build, screen quality and 4.4 what can be better then that. This is probably the first Nexus I would really recommend to someone wanting to try Android or even leave iOS. Usually I would always tell an older person to stick with their iPhone and a not so techy person who wants to go with Android to try an S4 or HTC One. Not this time. This device is the whole package.
Anyway, to much positive talk going on in here....This phone truly sucks.
shadowcore said:
I dont know why you guys need 54543 threads to both praise and hate the device. There should not be a "Love" thread because nobody cares if you guys like it or not. People who like it will get it. And for this matter, you can write reviews in amazon or anyother place where people will actually care about what you say.
A nexus 5 review thread could be useful here but hey, I am no mod, just keep "lovin"!
Anyway, smart people usually wait and see the reviews-issues before they buy a device, you wont convince them to anything and the ones who buy the phone immediately usually dont care about opinions.
I am a potential buyer but I am rather interested to buy it much later, thats why I lurk here.
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Nicely said. Have Nexus 4, loving it. This Friday, Nexus 5, can't wait.
I have to say for all the trash being talked about the camera, I just took some low light pictures and was greatly impressed. Blew my S3 away.
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shadowcore said:
I dont know why you guys need 54543 threads to both praise and hate the device. There should not be a "Love" thread because nobody cares if you guys like it or not. People who like it will get it. And for this matter, you can write reviews in amazon or anyother place where people will actually care about what you say.
A nexus 5 review thread could be useful here but hey, I am no mod, just keep "lovin"!
Anyway, smart people usually wait and see the reviews-issues before they buy a device, you wont convince them to anything and the ones who buy the phone immediately usually dont care about opinions.
I am a potential buyer but I am rather interested to buy it much later, thats why I lurk here.
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Why not practice what you preach and keep your opinions to yourself?
Most definitely will love it specially when I get a custom ROM on it and add that pie control. I also would wish I had that control from the movie click which I could just click to November 8th on Friday already
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i dont get whats not to love about the device. you get top hardware for 300+ dollars. KitKat which is so fluid and a joy to use. i am loving every minute of having this phone. i had the lg g2 awesome phone sucky skin. note 3. awesome phone sucky unstable skin. overprices. wayyyyy over priced.
but yet instead of enjoying the device. they take it out of the box start shaking it. wiggling buttons. tapping on it. swinging there arms. taking it apart and putting paper inside LOL. i put a spigen case on it. with rubber buttons. no rattles no shakes. no nothing. and even if it did. i loveeeeeee this nexus. best yet. enjoy your phones people.
shadowcore said:
I dont know why you guys need 54543 threads to both praise and hate the device. There should not be a "Love" thread because nobody cares if you guys like it or not. People who like it will get it. And for this matter, you can write reviews in amazon or anyother place where people will actually care about what you say.
A nexus 5 review thread could be useful here but hey, I am no mod, just keep "lovin"!
Anyway, smart people usually wait and see the reviews-issues before they buy a device, you wont convince them to anything and the ones who buy the phone immediately usually dont care about opinions.
I am a potential buyer but I am rather interested to buy it much later, thats why I lurk here.
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Nobody cares that you don't care about this thread.
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Nobody cares that you don't care about this thread.
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I never said that. I only said, nobody cares if you love it. People wiho care already know why they care and anyone of you can name those things.
Its like buying a porsche and saying: "I might aswell go in a forum and praise it!". Everybody knows why its good. You know, its also a part of sending a message. Maybe goog and LG should withhold the selling of the devices to "Fix" them, and release a revision. Like the Nexus 4 did with a bumper in the back.
You will get over it eventually....eventually.
But hey, I know the feeling. Having to praise the phone and others agreeing with you and boosting your self esteem. Yep, magical. Except that when you think about it, you kinda lose the charm when you realize that you are doing so because you are unsure if you have made the right decision. So you need some external confirmation.
Hey, if I could buy this phone, I would not complain about wiggly buttons, 1-2 dead pixels and so on, because how amaizing it is. I prefer to wait after Christmas.
Would have been nice if google wasn't that cheap to save on the speaker and wifi antenna.