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3rd defective N7. Dead spots on screen.

This is my 3rd N7. I just got it about 8 hours ago from gamestop. I thought when I started my new replacement up I finally got a defective free device!!! Started playing major mayhem and boy did I figure out quick this replacement was the worst. It would read my finger placement but I would either have to hold it there or swipe. Oh and the keyboard was almost impossible to use. Even moving widgets and apps on home screen was a chore due to it out being able to hold on to my placement. I know I'm not the only one having this issue. You guys think an update would fix this or do I have another deffective device?
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Not sure, but if it is defective again, I would return it and buy it somewhere else.

Can you try it out with headphones plugged in or while touching the headphone jack? This might be a grounding issue.
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I just returned. I usually hate GameStop but they are bring really cool about the n7. They are exchanging it without question. One time they didn't even turn it on lol! But I got my replacement today and so far so good. Hope nothing is wrong with it *knock on wood*
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Third time will be the charm with me, I think. I'll be hopefully getting my third one early next week while I still have time to compare to my first unit. if the third one has issues, then I'll be putting the N7 on the back burner until people are reporting that these common issues are resolved. It's just taking TOO much time and energy to mess with this whole thing.

Gamestop just replacing them right there on the spot?

I made a video of the issue I'm experiencing along with how it behaves when I have the headphones plugged in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG3-vjFYh0Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Listen...if you have to return a device more than once...JUST STOP! This is God or some other higher power trying to tell you something. QUIT IT!!!

ExploreMN said:
Listen...if you have to return a device more than once...JUST STOP! This is God or some other higher power trying to tell you something. QUIT IT!!!
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Why?
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Why?
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Did I stutter?
Having one of these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793578 is enough.

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Did I stutter?
Having one of these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793578 is enough.
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No, you didn't stutter, but you also didn't make much sense. I'd say a person with the time and inclination has no reason not to try to get a defect-free device. There's every reason to believe that at some point the initial manufacturing issues will be worked out, and defect-free Nexus 7's will become available. That should happen sooner rather than later, and so long as Google is willing to keep sending replacements, there's no reason why someone shouldn't keep trying (do note that I, personally, do not have the time or inclination, so I'm stopping at 3).
So, when I say "why," I'm asking: what's your reasoning? Certainly you don't REALLY mean that "God or some other higher power" is actually trying to say something.

Yes GameStop just returned it no questions asked. The only problem was finding the tablets. Only one GameStop in my city had a replacement. This one is perfect EXCEPT the sound. Its cracky and pops. But the m going to hold onto this one because everything else is flawless. Including the lifted screen. I rarely use the internal speaker anyway. It works fine of I dont pump it up a lot. Anyway yes GameStop was badass for once. They didn't even turn it on lol. I could have gutted the CPU.
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Kinda makes me wonder if Google, Asus, or retailers are just recycling some of the returns to someone else, hoping they will be fine with whatever defects the person returning couldn't live with. Anyone know if there are any rules at the retail level that prevent this from happening?

BostonDan2 said:
Kinda makes me wonder if Google, Asus, or retailers are just recycling some of the returns to someone else, hoping they will be fine with whatever defects the person returning couldn't live with. Anyone know if there are any rules at the retail level that prevent this from happening?
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Yes, the fact that the replacement orders are for a new products. Selling refurbs as new would break all sorts of laws.
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Wanna buy but afraid

The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.

My Nexus7 has no problems at all and I love it. Its well worth the price I paid for the 16GB.
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I'm from India and I'm also afraid about product quality. Here getting 8GB model for $250. I want to know, is nexus 7 supports USB on the go feature so that I can use pen drive for external storage? and what are cons you guys faced with your nexus 7 yet?

Guys, don't step out in the road, you have more chance of getting hit by a bus than you have of getting a bad N7!
The N7 works with all kinds of external storage but you need to root it first, there's good instructions on what to do on these forums when you need them.
/edit, just had a thought, those might not be very good odds in India

As someone who has received three units with screen lifting, I wouldn't caution you as strongly as you might expect me to.
That's the only really common defect, and in most cases it is not severe enough to affect usage. The last two I received have been minor cases of separation. The reason I won't accept this flaw is because of the possibility that it will worsen over time, but keep in mind that this is speculative.
My experience with the device has been overwhelmingly positive aside from this, and if the Nexus 7 is right for you then it may be worth purchasing even if you do get one with the kind of separation I've been dealing with. Although the warranty friendly fixes have been found to be temporary, if it bothers you that much then good old fashioned super glue will do the trick. Many who have gone through multiple returns have decided that they like the tablet enough to dispense with this RMA business and jimmy it down themselves.
Don't let anyone tell you that screen lifting is a rare thing, but it's not the end of the world. This is a great device even with the fault.

You can get your friend to check it for you and if its bad return it on the spot.
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Troute said:
Guys, don't step out in the road, you have more chance of getting hit by a bus than you have of getting a bad N7!
The N7 works with all kinds of external storage but you need to root it first, there's good instructions on what to do on these forums when you need them.
/edit, just had a thought, those might not be very good odds in India
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I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
And yea the price for 8GB Nexus 7 is best anyone can get in India right now. On ebay india it costs approx 320$ for 8GB N7.
So buying N7 8GB for 8GB is a great deal for me.

Is there any chance that by now there is an already free defects batch rolling out?
I remember when the HTC Sensation came out it had also multiple issues. I bought mine about 5 months later and had no issues at all. I cant do it here because either i buy it this month or i wont buy it at all

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@Dr. Sheldon take a look at the android development sub-section in the Nexus 7 forum. There are several methods of rooting the device, most of them requires little interactions with the device.
Also, the ones who have had defects are among the thousands who haven't encountered any problems, so your odds should be pretty good. Best luck to you mate.
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mazinya said:
The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.
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Don't be afraid, that's what Apple want to to feel. That's where this whole myth of Nexus7 problems originate from...
The vast majority of Nexus7's are fine. You only hear about the ones with problems.. (or claimed problems. I suspect only 10% of those are genuine, the other 90% Apple viral marketing at work).

People here are saying there's a small amount of defective n7s but I'm on my third one. First 2 had dead pixels, and my current one has screen lift. Guess I have extremely bad luck

I got mine overseas and notice screen flickering and screen tear the first day.
I also cannot return it.
But I pop it open (easy enough) and tighten the screw, it seems to fix the screen tear.
Only notice the tear once yesterday after a whole week. And people on forum already has solution for flickering.
So I cannot settle if it is hardware or software related.
I think for the price of half an iPad, it is lighter and smaller.
So I can definitely deal with the small imperfection.
So go ahead and get it.

mazinya said:
The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.
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The very vocal minority here may have problems, but the majority (the 99% lol) have no issues. If there was a global issue, I'm sure you'd hear about it on NBC/Fox/CrApple News/etc. I have my Nexus, no issues and I love the thing. Great device and no regrets!

Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
And yea the price for 8GB Nexus 7 is best anyone can get in India right now. On ebay india it costs approx 320$ for 8GB N7.
So buying N7 8GB for 8GB is a great deal for me.
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Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm from India and I'm also afraid about product quality. Here getting 8GB model for $250. I want to know, is nexus 7 supports USB on the go feature so that I can use pen drive for external storage? and what are cons you guys faced with your nexus 7 yet?
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Hi Dr. Sheldon
I have hours worth of videos on the Nexus 7. Showing OTG functionality(mouse/keyboard, remotes, usb hubs, controllers, camera connection and control), how to root, comparison, NFC in action, streaming your desktop screen, and more. My youtube channel is down below in the signature. But these are my perspective. There are allot of great videos others are publishing showing all the good and bad from different viewpoint. As a developer and hobby android developer, this is a great device. This is a great forum and community that will really unlock allot of potential in the Nexus 7, the most interesting sub-forum in my opinion is the Nexus 7 Developer.
For rooting Nexus 7, this is a very comprehensive video that was put together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrZaU5i2x4w&hd=1
Best Regards

Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
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You need to do some reading in the forums. All of the questions you have posed have been covered many times in other threads.
There are whole threads on Rooting, OTG, Shipping, Problems etc...
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mazinya said:
Is there any chance that by now there is an already free defects batch rolling out?
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There is no such thing. There will always be a number of defective devices for various reasons when things are mass produced. The number of issues you are seeing in the forum is skewed as most people who have no issues, rarely use forums or post about their experiences.
I've now touched and used 5 brand new 16gb Nexus 7's out of the box and they were all fine. The first was in the first initial pre-launch batches with the latest being 3 days ago. I know that others have had issues but that is the experience that I've been seeing.

I got my 2nd one today and it has screen lift and burn in.
I'm getting a refund.
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I'm from india as well and wanted to buy one for myself...but decided against it. N7 is cheap hardware & build quality is poor...I might buy Microsoft Surface instead...might want to check it out...
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Just bought it like 20 min ago and i love it

I just got mine today and I love it. I have zero issues. I live in Canada though
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How capable is a Nexus One?

My dad has never had a smartphone and he kinda wants one but not pay much. Dailysteals has one for 79 bucks, but is it too outdated? Thanks for any advice.
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It probably more than covers your dad's needs. Unless you anticipate your father becoming a power user and desiring the latest and greatest games and OS releases the N1 should be fine. A ton of apps, calendar, contacts, email, texting, camera and browser are all there. I have a pair of N1's here that I kept for standbys in case one of our other phones has a problem but honestly I don't think my wife would notice the difference if she didn't have her Sensation 4G. I just asked her what would she miss if she had to go back to the N1 full time and the only thing she could think of is that the N1 is smaller. At $79 it's a nice entry point for someone who doesn't know whether or not they will like a "smartphone."

Thanks for the info. He honestly wouldn't know the difference. I have never owned a Nexus One and wasn't sure if it was too outdated to even consider. I was going to give him GS1 before it broke, but comparing online they have pretty identical specs and I know my GS1 is perfectly capable for him.
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Have you taken into consideration the "illnesses" of this device? Namely awful digitizer (touch occasionally going "crazy")?
I'd suggest getting something else in the same price range. I lived with this device for over a year when it was young, but my wife couldn't stand it even for 3 months.

hey123 said:
Thanks for the info. He honestly wouldn't know the difference. I have never owned a Nexus One and wasn't sure if it was too outdated to even consider. I was going to give him GS1 before it broke, but comparing online they have pretty identical specs and I know my GS1 is perfectly capable for him.
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Yeah it's more than capable for an entry level user who probably won't ever need all the features. My father-in-law got a low-end android phone from AT&T earlier this year. 2 weeks later he was returning it.
Jack_R1 said:
Have you taken into consideration the "illnesses" of this device? Namely awful digitizer (touch occasionally going "crazy")?
I'd suggest getting something else in the same price range. I lived with this device for over a year when it was young, but my wife couldn't stand it even for 3 months.
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Lol just made me think of having to press slightly above center on the "hard" keys to get response. It's not the only phone I've had that kind of issue with though. It didn't overshadow my time with the N1. Had it from launch and still have it. Not my daily phone anymore but it's decent enough for a backup that sits in the car or drawer.

Review from a former LL3 (Received Yesterday)

So I got my phone yesterday evening at 7pm from the UPS driver and of course it was the latest I had ever received a package!
Anyways, all I have to say is that getting a phone from the "second wave" seems to have been a great thing because I have had ZERO issues at all so far. Right away I looked over the entire phone for any cosmetic defects that have been reported and nothing was found wrong. The screen IMO is amazing and colors look perfect as well. There is NO yellow tint whatsoever and I even had my GF look at it to make sure. Battery is already better than my former Blaze 4G and that's saying something. This phone is definitely a fresh start from the touchwiz ui and made me realize that was really kiddish looking like IOS IMO. The camera takes pictures just fine although I am still trying to figure out all the features on it. The phone got pretty warm on initial start up when all of my apps were being installed from the Play store but after that, normal browsing and such did not make it any warmer than anything i have felt before in other phones. Finally, there is NO buzzing in my earpiece at all, and yes my hearing is good, this again I had my GF check too so I knew I was not crazy.
So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks

That's great to hear. I also ordered a N4 from the second batch and I can't wait for it to be here. Nice review

Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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myorks1127 said:
So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks
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Grats on getting your phone; you're gonna love it.
I got mine a week after the initial ordering and my phone is perfect, so I don't know about any second waves or anything like that. There are always going to be phones with manufacturing-related defects; that's why they do exchanges. Don't get hung up on a few people who think their phones are s**t.

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Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw

I have my nexus 4 from the first wave ( received it on the 19th) and never got any issues with it.
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Yep, loving mine.
Coming from a s2 and then a s3 I had for 2 weeks.. The things I thought would bother me really don't.
I rooted to restor backups and I love vanilla Android, probably won't even do any rom'ing

I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.

sroach23 said:
I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.
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Second wave myself. No issues. I love this phone. Just thinking of how to customize the first page. I can't make it look too much like my old phone.

blaine.hale said:
Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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lol

I got my 2 Nexus 4's yesterday. The one seems fine, but I have an issue with the 2nd one. During calls, the earpiece buzzes while making sounds. The earpiece does not make any sounds when it is off like a lot of people seem to report. This is strictly a problem during calls and it sounds like the speaker is blown. It does rattle a bit when I'm putting it on a table or whatnot, but that doesn't really bother me.
Called support yesterday, and they were supposed to send me an e-mail with instructions on sending this one back and getting a replacement, but haven't actually received anything from them.
I seem to have some kind of knack for getting bad phones from Google. I had ordered 2 Galaxy Nexus phones when they came out, and ended up getting a replacement for one of the phones because there was dust in the camera. The replacement had the wifi go out, so I had to get that one replaced. The third one actually had a similar buzzing issue with the earpiece but it wasn't as bad, and I was tired of dealing with them at that point, so I lived with it.

blaine.hale said:
Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Why reply if you don't care? Not sure of what your point is..
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Just speaking a link?
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He's correcting the man's grammar.
Watch the video.

blaine.hale said:
Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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I get what you are saying, but he is still literally correct.
I'm sure he could care less, otherwise he wouldn't have an N4. If he cared less:
- he could have not bought the phone
- he could leave it at a bus stop and go on living
- etc. etc.
Now, I'm sure he could care a hell of a lot MORE about it, taking to the internet in fits of rage, driving to Mountain View and knocking on the front door and such. But still, he could also care less.
Just saying.

Received mine yesterday and it has zero flaw. I don't take the mini rattle as one as it comes from the camera (autofocus?) and all the phones I tested since learning that on this forum have it.
For those of you wondering if the bumper is worth 20 euros, it's definitely well made, perfectly fits the look of the phone and prevents the back from direct contact but... well, the phone has a perfect size for my hand and the bumper adds about 0.5 - 0.7 cm in width which makes it awkward to hold. I find myself removing it often when using my phone.
My 2 cents.
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Does your phone have touch sensitive issue?

Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.

droidmakespwn said:
Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.
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I don't have any issues whatsoever from the 1st batch. The more you try to look for something to be wrong the higher the chance that something unnoticeable will begin to irritate you lol.

Zero issues with the first batch. But if these phones get better with each batch, imagine the 50th batch!
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Ordered 2, sending both back

Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping

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Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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will they charge him restocking fee as mentioned in google play store under refunds?

send me the flashing red one plz
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck

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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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If they had a higher price I wouldn't of had to upgrade!
Dang it Google!

I will probably do an RMA since the phone is awesome...when it works.
Where can I find the number to call Google?

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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week

So did you get a replacement ?

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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
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Hmm that's weird. Got mine 3 days after calling called Monday received it Thursday
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phositadc said:
Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.

ogrillion said:
I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )

rabbit140 said:
Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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phositadc said:
Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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Not sure why you think that, but OK.
ogrillion said:
I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course quality control affects price. QC can be very labor intensive($$$), from just auditing the boards and components at various levels of production, to scrap (throwing away defective product $$$) or rework (labor intensive $$$) of product with defects. I speak from experience here. No doubt QC suffered in order to offer the Nexus 4 at this price. Of course, it probably didn't suffer as much as it might have from other manufactures, as Google does not have to make money on the device itself as they can rake in the money from the Play store.
I mean, I love that I am able to purchase such a high end device for $299/349, but I think we really have to worry about what this will do to the rest of the Android ecosystem. Amazon has already been putting the hurt on everybody (other than Apple) in the tablet market with their Fire tablets (again, they can make money from the Amazon app store, and other content), and now Google is putting the Squeeze on everybody else with the Nexus 4, the Nexus 7, and the Nexus 10.
Competition is good for everybody, but if only Apple, Amazon and Google can make money due to owning the content stores, then that's a bad omen for the industry IMHO. But I digress.

You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
Batcom2

zelendel said:
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
Batcom2
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Google was the supervisor of the whole project. Google selected LG. If you think the phone is perfect, Google deserves most of the credit. If you think it sucks, Google deserves much of the blame.
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ctbear said:
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
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Have you tried charging it on a pc?
Plug it into USB port of computer and leave for half hour.
This happens on a few android devices when fully discharged and pc charging is the only way to do it sometimes.
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I've got an rma out for mine for a similar issue, there's a black squiggly line going across my camera lens...seems like it's probably stuck between my camera lens and the glass. Not a huge deal, but definitely an annoyance to have to send it back, especially after unlocking and rooting it.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.

icy_virtuoso6 said:
I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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Agree completely. My nexus 7 had screen lift issues but I didn't care enough to RMA. Maybe I should have, though, because it completely died while charging last week, and now I have no choice but to RMA.
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