[Q] Deciding between the 8x and 810? - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

T-Mobile is pretty much the only option for me. I have a 4-line family plan and ATT would cost me $60 more a month which is $1440 more over the 2yr contract so as much as I'd like the 920, it's not really an option.
That said, at first I was set on the 8x. I have an HD7 now which has served me well until recently. I now have a fubar charging scenario where 50% of the time I unplug the phone, I get frozen in charge mode and the ONLY way to fix it is to pull the battery. If this new HTC incurs the same issue, without a pullable battery I'd be screwed, right?
Also, from what I can tell, the only advantage the 8x has over the 810 is the screen resolution/pixel density. Everything else seems to be either a wash or an edge to the 810 (microSD, Drive/Music apps). Plus, call me picky, but I don't care for the near-purple version of the 8x that T-Mo carries so I'd have to put a cover on it.
I guess what I'm asking is, is the screen enough to warrant the extra cost, lack of microsd slot, Nokia apps?

Try to compare the screens side by side and you will know is it worth it....
Because what I know about this for a fact is Nokia apps_Nokia apps_Nokia apps_Nokia apps_Nokia apps, very important :cyclops: Probably more Nokia goodies to come also.

Loco5150 said:
Try to compare the screens side by side and you will know is it worth it....
Because what I know about this for a fact is Nokia apps_Nokia apps_Nokia apps_Nokia apps_Nokia apps, very important :cyclops: Probably more Nokia goodies to come also.
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There-in lies a problem. None of the T-Mo stores around me have a working 810 OR 8x. The closest store to me told me they only received two of each to sell (this is a suburb with 60k people in a metropolitan area with 2 million people).

For me the removable battery and sd slot along with changeable covers is the deal breaker, I only want a pixel perfect screen in the living room

It was a very hard decision but I choose the HTC 8x over the Nokia simply because the 8x has better hardware

Don't forget beats audio, great front camera and better build quality of the 8X.

Went with the 810 myself, very happy. Nokia drive is far superior to anything else I've used. What sold it for me, after the micro SD, was Nokia music. I live in a dead spot so data rarely works and still having a playlist of new music is really nice.
beats audio doesn't seem to me to be that big a deal. I have done a personal comparison between an HTC with beats and my 810... I couldn't tell the difference.
What it always comes down to, is what do you want to do with it, then you find the phone that best matches your needs...
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aksmurf said:
Went with the 810 myself, very happy. Nokia drive is far superior to anything else I've used. What sold it for me, after the micro SD, was Nokia music. I live in a dead spot so data rarely works and still having a playlist of new music is really nice.
beats audio doesn't seem to me to be that big a deal. I have done a personal comparison between an HTC with beats and my 810... I couldn't tell the difference.
What it always comes down to, is what do you want to do with it, then you find the phone that best matches your needs...
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Couldn't tell the diff??? are you deaf? regardless of what you think about the over manipulated sound of beats there is a huge diff is sound. Try getting an 8x and turning beats on then off. Its esp noticeable with headphones like bose ae2 (what I use and beats headphones themselves).
Beats = louder crisper base and higher high end on cheap headphones you can lose the mids but if audio is what you like why use cheap headphones.

Better build quality of X8? Really, HTC would actually have a better build quality....
And you can see from my sig I have had quite a few HTC's lately

I have the 810, and it is smooth, fast, and high quality. Very glad I chose it over 8x. Nokia games are nice too.

lumpaywk said:
Couldn't tell the diff??? are you deaf? regardless of what you think about the over manipulated sound of beats there is a huge diff is sound. Try getting an 8x and turning beats on then off. Its esp noticeable with headphones like bose ae2 (what I use and beats headphones themselves).
Beats = louder crisper base and higher high end on cheap headphones you can lose the mids but if audio is what you like why use cheap headphones.
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Beats cheat. They increase the volume of the music, so for an equivalent test, you have to adjust the volume down. Beats are COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY USELESS. What is more useful in the 8X audio wise is the audio amp present in the 8X.

matthew5025 said:
Beats cheat. They increase the volume of the music, so for an equivalent test, you have to adjust the volume down. Beats are COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY USELESS. What is more useful in the 8X audio wise is the audio amp present in the 8X.
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Nokia has Dolby headphones which is very nice.

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Nokia has Dolby headphones which is very nice.
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I normally would not compare software enhancement to music, but would rather turn it off and decide from there. However, I would be willing to try the sound of the 810 against the 8x. However, no one I know have a 820 afaik. Well, the 920 is comming out soon in my country so maybe I can report back about the 920.

lumpaywk said:
........ Try getting an 8x and turning beats on then off. Its esp noticeable with headphones like bose ae2 (what I use and beats headphones themselves).
Beats = louder crisper base and higher high end on cheap headphones you can lose the mids but if audio is what you like why use cheap headphones.
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I worked this year at IFA 2012 in Berlin, a big european exhibition for consumer electronic products. Beats Audio presented there their headphones and what schoul I say: they had a good bass beat (could be better, especially for the size of the headphones), good sound, but they are too expensive for this sound quality (same like bose, "good" sound but too expensive). The sound details are not play back really well, and high Frequencies are not clear as it could be. The mids are too "flat"...............
Conclusion: too expensive for this sound quality.
Denon, Teufel, Beyerdynamic, Phonac or B&W in ears have a better sound quality than beats audio or bose at the same price range. Better bass, mid and treble playback, better Detailresolution.
The beats audio funktion in 8X, level up frequencies like an equalizer, uses an own Amplifier, that ensures distortion-free playback at high levels, specially for big headsets, who needs more power. Thats it.
I read that special EQ-presets are available, when you use a beats audio Headset, but i dont know if that's true................ i use a denon in ear with my 8X and the sound is nearly perfect....
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Audio quality through headphones?

As my Galaxy S got stolen a few days ago, I'm looking for a new phone and 2X seems like the best option right now. Only thing that concerns me is that some reviews mention not so good audio quality through headphones.
I tend to use my phone as an mp3 player quite a lot and I use good headphones with them, so here's a question for you, kind 2X owners - how does it cope as an mp3 player? I'm no audiophile but I aint deaf either, I was satisfied with Galaxy S' audio quality and would prefer not to go lower. Thanks in advance for any info.
I am not sure about sgs, but it definitely lose comparing my old sony erisson w810
when the wires bumping to your chest, you will listen the noise in ur earphone too. I would give my old w810 9/10, and this phone 4/10.
I would say it definitely depends on the earplugs..
Have to say that with my Sennheiser in-ears i cannot complain.. Haven't done a side by side comparison with a different phone yet.. so If i will, I'll let you know!
Sorry for your loss of sgs. You will not regret the O2X i would say!
Mine is spot on as a music player. The 2x and the Desire I had are more or less the same in the headphones I have. I am not sure how they compare when you enter in the supplied headphones into the test.
Tested with high-end earphones (Westone UM2). It sounds ok but I wouldn't use my 2x as my main music player.
Sound level is a little on the weak side and slightly tame bass levels on my Sennheiser HD 565 headphones. On the plus side, very clean sounding audio. I think a set of headphones/earphones with high sensitivity rating should produce decent audio, or something with high bass reproduction for bassheads.
Might be worth looking at PowerAMP too. It improved audio quality on my Hero no end.
Sound quality is very good except for crosstalk which is awful. That makes the sound quality very average:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x-review-564p8.php
It's like 10 times better than my old Windows Mobile HTC Touch HD
submarine said:
I'm no audiophile but I aint deaf either, I was satisfied with Galaxy S' audio quality and would prefer not to go lower.
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Just read from LG Optimus 2x service manual that it uses the same Wolfson audio chipset (wm8994) as Samsung Galaxy S. So, in theory, both phones should be similar sounding when using the same earphones. Or, at least, LG 2x audio should not be much degraded from your old Galaxy S - if at all.
Rooted galaxy s has the vodoo sound option which really enhances audio quality
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Hi,
I as well use the phone as my main mp3 player. Before I had a iPod Touch, a HTC Desire and now the LGOS. And what shall I say: The LGOS is the best beneath them.
Maybe it's also important to say that I never even unpack those earphones coming with the devices. I never had a decent earphone coming with these devices.
I used Sure earphones (the middleclass ones - which are quite expensive already, I bought them for about 150€) but now switched to Phonak by Audeo (a Swiss company) which really deliver amazing sound.
Thanks for the input guys, I just placed an order : ) Voodoo sound on Galaxy S was great indeed, hope someone creates an equivalent for 2X in the future.
The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
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I was actually surprised how good they are!
(For supplied earbuds)
withoutwings said:
The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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God, I hate those that were supplied by HTC. They were bloody horrible. Much prefer the LG ones (I left my half decent ones at my sisters house...).
Just as a side note: PowerAMP runs beatifully on this phone.
withoutwings said:
The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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I have use both the one that came with the device and one which came with my htc wildfire and on both i can press the button 2x to go to the next song, so it should work. Or does your headset have 2 separate buttons?
2x uses the same headphone socket layout as iphone which differs from the galaxy S
I personnaly found that audio isn't a great part on Optimus 2x. I tried the earbuds, they are not bad but not really great ... And they doesn't fit my ear, I mean they doesn't isolate sound correctly or usually I never change the size of the foams ;-)
Meanwhile, I noticed that level sound isn't very high. Same for you ? (Maybe that was my divx file, need to verify that)
why can't i hear anything out of my headphones... ahhhh

[Q] Sound quality / loudness through headphones

OK I've just picked up an Incredible S to replace the iphone 4 that I was bored with (plus I gained some cash in the bargain), and am generally happy, but I do find that the sound quality leaves a lot to be desired, it seems to lack punch and dynamics, and sounds a little flat, which means you want to turn it up, but of course, even at the loudest setting, its only moderately loud, especially with outside noise competing for attention.
Compared with the iphone, it is a long behind in sound quality and loudness, and this is when using some Denon IEMs, and is probably my only source of real disappointment with this handset. It kind of reminds me of the somewhat subpar results I heard from my old Nexus One and Desire, which seems to suggest little has changed in that time,
So, is there any way of making this thing go any louder? If it could, then it won't be a deal breaker - I really didn't expect it to be any better than the iphone in that respect anyway.
tameracingdriver said:
OK I've just picked up an Incredible S to replace the iphone 4 that I was bored with (plus I gained some cash in the bargain), and am generally happy, but I do find that the sound quality leaves a lot to be desired, it seems to lack punch and dynamics, and sounds a little flat, which means you want to turn it up, but of course, even at the loudest setting, its only moderately loud, especially with outside noise competing for attention.
Compared with the iphone, it is a long behind in sound quality and loudness, and this is when using some Denon IEMs, and is probably my only source of real disappointment with this handset. It kind of reminds me of the somewhat subpar results I heard from my old Nexus One and Desire, which seems to suggest little has changed in that time,
So, is there any way of making this thing go any louder? If it could, then it won't be a deal breaker - I really didn't expect it to be any better than the iphone in that respect anyway.
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I agree, but try using SRS-on, it improves the sound quality alot. I'm using a pair of Westone UM3x and there are stark differences with SRS on and off.
bernlim said:
I agree, but try using SRS-on, it improves the sound quality alot. I'm using a pair of Westone UM3x and there are stark differences with SRS on and off.
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Nice idea... but I don't think I can as having to use PowerAmp as the native player doesn't do gapless MP3s...
Yes the srs improves the quality ... But sadly the earphones that come with the devices arent very loud
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I dont use the included ones (phone was from ebay so didnt get them), I use Denon in-ear headphones, and they aren't very loud either. They were very loud out of the iphone.
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Yes the srs improves the quality ... But sadly the earphones that come with the devices arent very loud
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I have to agree that SRS adds a lot to the audio quality. I use Westone UM2 with PowerAMP.
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so can you use SRS along with power amp or not ?
btw hows the bass levels ?

Tinny Audio?

Is anyone experiencing tinny speaker audio on the Vivid/Raider? It's tough to listen to music because its so full if treble and increasing the bass makes it sound too blown out...
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Yeah, it's embarrassing trying to laugh at YouTube videos with other people because it's so hard to hear.. I've invested in a pair of Skull Candy ear buds with the mic built in. Worth the money
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Yeah, it's embarrassing trying to laugh at YouTube videos with other people because it's so hard to hear.. I've invested in a pair of Skull Candy ear buds with the mic built in. Worth the money
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Haha, good plan. I've got so many headphones I can't even keep track of them...lol. I love the Vivid so the speaker really doesn't bother me.
No Phone Speaker Is Great
I don't think any phone speaker is going to match a good set of earphones or even middling desktop stereo speakers. Some phones may be better than others, but is that the main way we are going to listen to audio - music, movies, phone calls? Yes, I know that if you want to show a video to someone else, you need the speaker.
Several other threads have already noted that the Vivid speaker, like other HTC phone speakers, may not be very good. I've listened to music over my Vivid's speaker. It's okay but not great. It's about as good as the speaker sound on my daughter's iPhone. But you just aren't going to get good sound from a tiny speaker.
Does the volume seem low to you guys?
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Does the volume seem low to you guys?
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It does, but its not a deal to me to be honest. Anyone ever try those Monster Bluetooth speakers? I wonder how those sound...
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Compare to my old Captivate, the volume of the Vivid is much lower.
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is there an app that can boost the audio output?
kiddchris said:
is there an app that can boost the audio output?
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Also interested in this. I've seen one that increases the 3.5mm output, but not the speaker. I have my HP Touchpad patched to be louder and it works great. With all the dev support behind the Android platform I'd be surprised if there isn't a simple option to accomplish this.
I've noticed this with all of the recent HTC phones I've used. After having an Evo 3d, Inspire and the Vivid I've come to realize that HTC just doesn't care about speaker output. If I put my Vivid next to my 4s and play the same song the difference in volume and sound quality is crazy.
I downloaded equalizer app and it helped a lot
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I've noticed this with all of the recent HTC phones I've used. After having an Evo 3d, Inspire and the Vivid I've come to realize that HTC just doesn't care about speaker output. If I put my Vivid next to my 4s and play the same song the difference in volume and sound quality is crazy.
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Played with the Rezound again today. First time I really tested built-in speaker. MUCH better than I've come to expect from HTC. Plenty of volume.
Most of these issues, low volume, too much treble, no bass... I was able too fix too some degree with the Volume+ app. It's in the Android market.
It's not perfect, but much better now.
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Yeah, I noticed that the first time I watched a YouTube video on mine. Even with it turned all the way up it still doesnt have much volume. So, like others have said, Time to invest in a good set of headphones.
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Yeah, I noticed that the first time I watched a YouTube video on mine. Even with it turned all the way up it still doesnt have much volume. So, like others have said, Time to invest in a good set of headphones.
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I'll second the "invest in a good set of headphones" recommendation, but that's probably because I'm an audiophile. (Ultrasone Edition 8 owner checking in)
Still, I use the speaker on my phones... a lot. It needs to be capable of reaching comfortable levels. At the AT&T store, I did my usual factory reset to the Vivid and then tried both Volume+ (have used before on a different handset with mixed results) and an EQ program. They both seemed to work for system sounds but conflicted with streaming programs like Spotify and Pandora. One made things even quieter. The other locked the phone and required that I pull the battery.
I'm surprised to find that apps that increase volume seem to be niche. There seemingly isn't something out there that's stable enough to be relied upon as an all-purpose solution. Of course, this wouldn't be an issue if the manufacturer invested in a quality component in the first place, but I digress.
As previously stated, I'm quite impressed by the speaker in the Rezound, so it looks like there actually IS something good coming from the Beats partnership. (because their headphones are garbage across the board... as is pretty much everything else associated with Jimmy Iovine) By my ears' account, it held up to the speakers found in the average Samsung handset. (i.e. quite loud) And that screen... best I've seen bar none. The screen on the Vivid is my favorite feature of the handset and, in my opinion, the best by far on AT&T, but the extra resolution on the Rezound takes overall fidelity up a notch. With the recent announcement that HTC is planning another high end phone for AT&T perhaps it will be in the same vein and, if it is, that's the handset I'm opting for. As it stands, I may end up going the bang for the buck route to tide me over and then sell it toward an outright purchase if/when it releases. Of course, should the phone not materialize as expected I wouldn't want to be stuck with something that came as a disappointment and I have to say... the Atrix 2 seems to be the most solid across the board handset currently on the carrier. (and one of the best in this regard on any for that matter)
There is a way to make the phone go to speaker, by turning the phone face down. My Vivid came with that box checked. It seems to affect the sound quality of the whole phone. If you uncheck that box, it makes a world of difference, and the phone sounds better, including any music played through the speaker. Just my opinion, but it worked for me.
Settings>Sound>Flip for speaker(uncheck this box).
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There is a way to make the phone go to speaker, by turning the phone face down. My Vivid came with that box checked. It seems to affect the sound quality of the whole phone. If you uncheck that box, it makes a world of difference, and the phone sounds better, including any music played through the speaker. Just my opinion, but it worked for me.
Settings>Sound>Flip for speaker(uncheck this box).
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I tested with a song using the HTC music player. With the flip box unchecked, I could hear a little difference in the sound from the external speaker. The song sounded a little "deeper" and less tinny as others have described it. Since I've never used the speaker phone feature, I left the box unchecked.
After upgrading to ICS and getting Beats Audio, I can say that the sound quality is noticeably better when patched into my car's system via headphone jack. Beats Audio doesn't do squat unless you're using the headphone jack though.

Audio Quality on Nexus 6?

All I can say is the audio quality through the headphone jack, and speaker on the Note 4 is garbage! That does not make it a bad phone, because with all its other features, the Note 4 is awesome but for an avid audiophile like me, my phone needs a great DAC/ headphone jack. The iphone 6+ Does have fantastic audio quality, but I use android phones as my workhorse, and Ipad as my consumption device, so iPhone is out for me. I am REALLY hoping that since the Nexus 6 has the 2 front facing stereo speakers, that it is being pushed by a strong high quality DAC. I currently have the M8 , and the audio is quite nice, but I have always wanted a nexus device after owning the HTC Nexus 1 , and the Nexus 6 checks all the boxes for me personally. It just has to have great audio and battery life and I'm sold! Hopefully we can get some reviews of the big sexy nexus before pre ordering starts?
I will admit, I am no audiophile. Can you go into detail on what exactly you notice in a bad audio output?
What headphones are you using?
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What headphones are you using?
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
Schoat333 said:
I will admit, I am no audiophile. Can you go into detail on what exactly you notice in a bad audio output?
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Hiss at higher volumes. Crosstalk/ Interference. Lack of soundstage or depth in the audio. Or lack of volume and "punch" in bass. I'm no "hardcore audiophile" that will ONLY listen to FLAC/ High Res music, as I listen quite often to Play Music on the go and at work @ 320kbps track that are streamed to me. But when reviewing new music or at the house wanting to check out new tracks and just want to be taken in by the music, then I load up some 24-bit/192kHz files, Ah the beauty of Android!
I know I can get a dedicated music player that serves this need, and I have one (Still have my old Zune 120 but with the way digital music distribution being so awesomely convenient through Gplay Store/ Itunes, I just like having a device that can "do it all" if I can find one. The Nexus being pure Android, "supposedly" all day battery life" Amazing screen, with hopefully excellent audio performance and supports High res audio files, sounds like that perfect device for me... Crossing fingers.
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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I'm not sure if root is available for the note4 yet, but if it is, install V4A. It helps to a degree. The nexus 5 is not a great when it comes to audio, however, with V4A installed, it is bearable. I use UE900 CIEM.
Edit: I am also hoping the N6 will have a powerful audio chip.
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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How do you like the P7's? I bought the P5's years ago but admittedly they don't get much use. I have tried the P7's and while I'm not sure if their sound sig is for me, they were insanely comfortable.
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awareunlikeu said:
Hiss at higher volumes. Crosstalk/ Interference. Lack of soundstage or depth in the audio. Or lack of volume and "punch" in bass. I'm no "hardcore audiophile" that will ONLY listen to FLAC/ High Res music, as I listen quite often to Play Music on the go and at work @ 320kbps track that are streamed to me. But when reviewing new music or at the house wanting to check out new tracks and just want to be taken in by the music, then I load up some 24-bit/192kHz files, Ah the beauty of Android!
I know I can get a dedicated music player that serves this need, and I have one (Still have my old Zune 120 but with the way digital music distribution being so awesomely convenient through Gplay Store/ Itunes, I just like having a device that can "do it all" if I can find one. The Nexus being pure Android, "supposedly" all day battery life" Amazing screen, with hopefully excellent audio performance and supports High res audio files, sounds like that perfect device for me... Crossing fingers.
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If it helps, the new Moto G, a £150/$180 phone, comes with an excellent DAC. Its even more impressive given the price of the device.
I can only assume they'll implement the same solution as in the Moto X. Unfortunately I can't comment on that, but I'd assume it's at least equal or better than the Moto X.
Obviously it can't compare to any dedicated player though. I still regularly notice the huge difference between my Note 2/3 Z3 experience and my old ipod touch 3rd gen. iPod destroys everything still.
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I'm not sure if root is available for the note4 yet, but if it is, install V4A. It helps to a degree. The nexus 5 is not a great when it comes to audio, however, with V4A installed, it is bearable. I use UE900 CIEM.
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Yeah those UE900's are some mighty fine phones my friend! But yeah I just want superb audio out of the box without tweaking. I know I can get it if I go back to apple for a phone, but I use iPad, so to me having an iPhone with its boring software when I already have an iPad that I use for consumption/work just seems like unnecessary overkill. As I use Android as my workhorse/EDC device. I have the HTC One M8 right now, and its close to what I want, but I don't particularly care for the software, except Blinkfeed, and I loath the camera. Headphone audio is damn good only because it is the loudest phone on the market right now due to the DAC having to push the BoomSound speakers and also pushing that same power to the headphone jack. But louder is not always better. The iphone 6 Plus's audio quality is quite a bit better, but not as loud, or "punchy". I hope its not too much to expect excellent audio quality with the way Googs is going away from the decently priced cutting corners Nexus devices to the absolute best Android has to offer Android device, which is what the N6 is sounding like they are marketing it has.
istrikerx said:
If it helps, the new Moto G, a £150/$180 phone, comes with an excellent DAC. Its even more impressive given the price of the device.
I can only assume they'll implement the same solution as in the Moto X. Unfortunately I can't comment on that, but I'd assume it's at least equal or better than the Moto X.
Obviously it can't compare to any dedicated player though. I still regularly notice the huge difference between my Note 2/3 Z3 experience and my old ipod touch 3rd gen. iPod destroys everything still.
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I know right.. I think Apple's audio superiority comes from the fact that they use a totally separate processing unit, independent of the processor for Audio processing. Where as Android phones generally use qualcomm's SOC and they dont have there own dedicated DAC. I may be mistaken on some of that lingo, but I think its close enough.
"The Nexus 6 comes with a pair of stereo speakers on the front, just like HTC’s phones. And just like the phones from Taiwan, Google’s phablet gives brilliant sound quality. Movies really draw you in with the combination of that huge screen and those crisp speakers And we could fill the whole house with music just with the Nexus 6
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awareunlikeu said:
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I am a M-100 user as well, hell year brother!
As for audio quality, personally I never use something as spread out as a Cellphone/Smartphone for quality music listening. Most of the time they are not equipped with the proper magic for good audio compared to PMP's and other quality audio sources. That is why I still carry around a PMP for most of my music listening (Better HW for sound, Storage all for Music, Separate battery for Music).
I know it's almost archaic to still have a PMP and a SmartPhone since the latter can technically do both, but if you want the best audio quality it's best to get a PMP for your audiophile needs. I suggest taking a look for this if you are curious for a PMP recommendation: http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000060437344&MenuID=105026016
As for the N6, its up in the air. But I usually would not bet my wallet that it would make a quality music player. It might be good for some music here and there but as a whole with pro cans it just might not be enough to get the most out of them.
To me the original Moto X audio quality through headphones was great. I ordered a Nexus 5 trying to decide which one to keep and ended up sending the Nexus back. One of the reasons was the audio wasn't as good as the X. I HOPE the N6 will be just as good. Motorola hasn't let me down yet.
I wonder if the N6 will be able to play FLAC lossless files. I really would like to hear my music in it's purist form. I have tried looking on Moto's and Google's spec websites and there is nothing about the audio part of the device....
racerxe24 said:
I wonder if the N6 will be able to play FLAC lossless files. I really would like to hear my music in it's purist form. I have tried looking on Moto's and Google's spec websites and there is nothing about the audio part of the device....
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I am fairly sure FLAC files are supported by the current version of android. I just flashed a completely stock rom, no root on my N5 and I am able to play FLAC on it using Shuttle+.
Power amp pro is worth the purchase. It made my N3 sound soooo much better. Out of the speaker, headphones, and aux out for playing music. Also ViperFX and Volume+ were good at tweaking your sound.
amebiasis said:
Power amp pro is worth the purchase. It made my N3 sound soooo much better. Out of the speaker, headphones, and aux out for playing music. Also ViperFX and Volume+ were good at tweaking your sound.
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+1 for Poweramp
I'm curious how the front speqkers compare to my m8. I love the audio on this phone.
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There are 2 main improvement in android L for sound: low latency and usb-enabled headphones. I'm not an audiophile myself but I guess for startes those two should make a difference.
That being said, unfortunatly, headphones quality output is something hard to tell without specific reviews.
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I know right.. I think Apple's audio superiority comes from the fact that they use a totally separate processing unit, independent of the processor for Audio processing. Where as Android phones generally use qualcomm's SOC and they dont have there own dedicated DAC. I may be mistaken on some of that lingo, but I think its close enough.
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Funny you talk about Apple's "audio superiority" when their headphone jacks across iPad, PowerBook/MacBook, iPhone, and iPod lines have been poorly grounded for years.

How do you rate Audio quality of Mi9?

Hello.
How do you guys rate the sound quality taken by a filmed video or a call, does the Mic sounds good enough for this device?
Btw, what about Bluetooth or Speaker, are all well playing or is there a lil inconsistency in lac of bad output?
How's the sound quality using wired earphone? I plan to upgrade from G6 with quad DAC but I'm afraid with the sound quality.
megadust said:
How's the sound quality using wired earphone? I plan to upgrade from G6 with quad DAC but I'm afraid with the sound quality.
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I went from HTC 10 to this phone, the difference is definitely there
The included adapter is an analog one (meaning no DAC, just wiring from phone's internal audio dac)
I wouldn't say it's *bad* per se, it's just the most generic solution by qualcomm implemented. No fancy stuff.
However they did implement it good enough to be used by most ppl, but it's probably coming up short by audiophile standard.
The sound is flat, damp, and just a bit loose in my personal opinion. It just somehow got just a bit of sound stage in there though so that's arguably a plus.
I ended up with an external DAC by moshi as daily driver.
So if you're expecting the internal DAC to be as good as some high-end smartphone, probably not. However if you're mostly using it for web video / streaming, and can accept the sound is just damp, it's good enough.
P.S. You're going to use an typc-c to 3.5 mm adapter anyways, so just get a decent adapter (moshi adapter on the cheap side, audiolab p-dac on the higher end side), and call it a day.
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I went from HTC 10 to this phone, the difference is definitely there
The included adapter is an analog one (meaning no DAC, just wiring from phone's internal audio dac)
I wouldn't say it's *bad* per se, it's just the most generic solution by qualcomm implemented. No fancy stuff.
However they did implement it good enough to be used by most ppl, but it's probably coming up short by audiophile standard.
The sound is flat, damp, and just a bit loose in my personal opinion. It just somehow got just a bit of sound stage in there though so that's arguably a plus.
I ended up with an external DAC by moshi as daily driver.
So if you're expecting the internal DAC to be as good as some high-end smartphone, probably not. However if you're mostly using it for web video / streaming, and can accept the sound is just damp, it's good enough.
P.S. You're going to use an typc-c to 3.5 mm adapter anyways, so just get a decent adapter (moshi adapter on the cheap side, audiolab p-dac on the higher end side), and call it a day.
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thanks for your explanation!
I expect the sound quality at least to be on par with my old S6 (which is a bit lower than G6). I tried my friend's new mi9 and I found it so dull and lack of everything (I'm only using low end cans 1more triple driver).
Do you find moshi DAC is on par with G6 (or maybe HTC 10)?
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thanks for your explanation!
I expect the sound quality at least to be on par with my old S6 (which is a bit lower than G6). I tried my friend's new mi9 and I found it so dull and lack of everything (I'm only using low end cans 1more triple driver).
Do you find moshi DAC is on par with G6 (or maybe HTC 10)?
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Well if you're using e1001, that's definitely good enough to hear the difference TBH. The integrated stuff is flat at best, but I'd call it pale (and damp).
And yeah, the moshi dac has been working out pretty well for me, I'm mostly in for the 3yr warranty but the sound is at least on par, if not more than HTC 10 in my opinion. To be fair HTC did a nice job on their audio on 10 so that's saying something.
But I mean, for $25 on a 24/192 audio adapter I'm happy with what I have. (It also works on PC, but I think most external DAC does.)
If you want something more close to sony A-series walkman quality, you'll probably have to check p-dac.
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* audio is a very personal experience, these are my personal experience and preference, you should probably try before you buy and shop around. *
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Well if you're using e1001, that's definitely good enough to hear the difference TBH. The integrated stuff is flat at best, but I'd call it pale (and damp).
And yeah, the moshi dac has been working out pretty well for me, I'm mostly in for the 3yr warranty but the sound is at least on par, if not more than HTC 10 in my opinion. To be fair HTC did a nice job on their audio on 10 so that's saying something.
But I mean, for $25 on a 24/192 audio adapter I'm happy with what I have. (It also works on PC, but I think most external DAC does.)
If you want something more close to sony A-series walkman quality, you'll probably have to check p-dac.
Also, mandatory:
* audio is a very personal experience, these are my personal experience and preference, you should probably try before you buy and shop around. *
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I see. Where did you buy the moshi dac for $25? Is it usable while charging the phone?
Use Bluetooth or upgrade to something which does?
My Sony wh1000xm3 sound great!

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