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Just For Fun: Dumbest thing you've done with your Kaiser

Thanks to my recent stupidity I just had the idea to make a thread that we might share some of our ridiculously stupid mistakes that we later found out could have been solved by simply thinking things through.
Hopefully this'll help new owners of the phone avoid our mistakes.
My mistake just happened 10 minutes ago, and I'm rather annoyed it happened... oh well... another 4 hours of setting up my Kaiser won't kill me...
Anyway, I refuse to carry my Kaiser with me until it is properly protected in its case, so it's just been sitting here around the house while I tamper with it and wait for my case to get here. Consequently, I'm using 2 phones, and I swap the sim card between them.
I turned on my Kaiser and got scared pantsless. It would only stay on for a few seconds, and then turn off. Of course it scared the heck out of me... the phone is only 4 days old. So after soft resetting failed, I resorted to the hard reset... well, apparently something got turned off when I flashed dutty's rom to the phone, and the little screen that reminds you about the sim door being unlocked doesn't come up.
So it turns out my phone was turning off just because the sim door wasn't locked... and now I have the task of installing and re-configuring everything I had on the Kaiser... which I'm about to start now. 4 hours of repeating history here I come!

My buddy threw up all over mine at a party.. luckily it cleaned up nicely!
So the dumbest thing i've done with it, is leave it somewhere other than my pocket? lol

Believing the hype !!! and getting one. Well maybe. Because this is one "son of a ***** " phone to get working

Bought one. No video drivers FTL.
Besides that....nothing really. just being clueless on how to flash a ROM I guess even though I want to return it because of video drivers!! I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO....

Dropped mine (and did not notice) while running across a busy street in downtown Calgary.
It was consequently run over by at least 1 car! I lost the back case, the battery was all banged up, and the power button was permanently pushed in, but guess what....it still turned on and I could make calls!!!!
Anyway, with no insurance, I thought I was up a creek with no paddle. AT&T hooked me up with a new one at 1/2 cost. I guess they heard the pain in my voice when I explained what happened.

last week end i made the stupid mistake of making an infinite loop on my today screen.
i was messing around trying to find a way to hide the VitoFindMe text at the bottom of my today screen, and since SPB Pocket plus (for some reason) didn't hold the plugin, i tried PocketBreeze, it put it in and it worked. so i put PocketPlus as a tab in it also just to get it to how i like, but it didnt allow me to put a personal tab as the default and i didnt need all of the extras, so i turned it off and put SPB back on the today. I decided to try one more time to put FindMe in SPB before i gave up, but i accidentally put PocketBreeze in it, and since PocketBreeze had SPB in it, it basically looped, froze and stopped on trying to boot when reset... so now i had to hard reset and i had to go through the task of putting all of my programs and stuff back on!
Yey what fun.

I bricked mine

ericc191 said:
My buddy threw up all over mine at a party.. luckily it cleaned up nicely!
So the dumbest thing i've done with it, is leave it somewhere other than my pocket? lol
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Wow. My friend would have had to die after that one

tyeo098 said:
I bricked mine
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how?!?!

RLoD very simple

I picked it up to check if SK Tools had finished cleaning ....................
while making whoopie with the ole' lady. Yeah, I got slapped upside the head with my Tilt & no more nookie for 2-weeks.
& boy, does she hate Lori now. (That's my Tilt name because I like the slightly *****y tone of Lori TomTom's voice)

Pwnt !

I accidentally locked my SIM card tryin to set up my keypad lock everytime u take the phone out of sleep mode. I was scared ****less. I could barley even hold the stylus in my hand to try and fix. basically, i had to log in to my wireless account on at&t, found my PUK code and everything was straight after that.

When I first got my Tilt, I kept it plugged in, since I have heard you should fully charge when you first get it. Well, I went to sync it, and it simply would not sync at all. I unplugged it, and replugged it. Still nothing. I checked all cables. Everything was properly hooked up on PC and ppc.
I was so mad, because it just would not work. So, I called ATT tech support. They made me soft reset, hard reset etc.
Finally they said, phone must be broken, they would exchange it for me. While I was waiting for her to do the exchange request (or whatever you call it), I just happened to notice that I had it plugged into the WALL charger, NOT the usb on computer (both cables were sitting right next to each other).
OMG, I felt so dumb, I hung up on AT&T, and had quite a chuckle at my stupidity

hmm, the dumbest thing I done that has to do with my kaiser?
I bought it!

Poetique said:
Thanks to my recent stupidity I just had the idea to make a thread that we might share some of our ridiculously stupid mistakes that we later found out could have been solved by simply thinking things through.
Hopefully this'll help new owners of the phone avoid our mistakes.
My mistake just happened 10 minutes ago, and I'm rather annoyed it happened... oh well... another 4 hours of setting up my Kaiser won't kill me...
Anyway, I refuse to carry my Kaiser with me until it is properly protected in its case, so it's just been sitting here around the house while I tamper with it and wait for my case to get here. Consequently, I'm using 2 phones, and I swap the sim card between them.
I turned on my Kaiser and got scared pantsless. It would only stay on for a few seconds, and then turn off. Of course it scared the heck out of me... the phone is only 4 days old. So after soft resetting failed, I resorted to the hard reset... well, apparently something got turned off when I flashed dutty's rom to the phone, and the little screen that reminds you about the sim door being unlocked doesn't come up.
So it turns out my phone was turning off just because the sim door wasn't locked... and now I have the task of installing and re-configuring everything I had on the Kaiser... which I'm about to start now. 4 hours of repeating history here I come!
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At first I thought the dumb thing was refusing to carry your phone without a case.

Dumbest thing I did was using it while walking fast inside best buy. I dropped it and happend to land on the toe of my shoes while I happen to take a step. I kicked it about 30-40 feet accross the floor. The phone, battery, and the cover all went 3 directions. Luckily the floor was carpet. No scratches on the phone, reboot still works fine. I WAS PISSED.

People keep saying buying it is the dumbest thing they did but it's not. Keeping it beyond 30 days is the dumbest thing. If you bought it, own it, be proud. If you felt that buying the tilt is the worst mistake you've ever made, you should have returned it within the return period. There are other people from CDMA carriers wish they can get the Tilt.

I gave my phone to my Girl friend for a day (DUMB !!!!)
Now I neednt explain what happens when phones go into women's hands
she dropped it from the 3rd floor in her hostel
luckily I got it replaced (rich girlfriend's dads )

GSLEON3 said:
I picked it up to check if SK Tools had finished cleaning ....................
while making whoopie with the ole' lady. Yeah, I got slapped upside the head with my Tilt & no more nookie for 2-weeks.
& boy, does she hate Lori now. (That's my Tilt name because I like the slightly *****y tone of Lori TomTom's voice)
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I know what you are talking about.
My dumbest thing was to give the kaiser to my girlfriend to play with it. She loves the bubble breaking game, and now everytime I am with her she is playing the f**king game.

dumb question...looks like 2 external 2 gps antenna ports?

I dont have the phone here (its the gf's) but when i had the battery cover off it looked like there were 2 identical ports next to each other. one is labeled GPS on the back cover but the other doesnt open to the back cover. whats that one for? is that for an external wifi antenna? that'd be tits!
also, does anyone know if the current 3D driver plays nicely with the 6.1 update from AT&T? i dont see THAT rom mentioned on the class action website.
now some other questions...
any time frame for a 2D driver?
how long till theres a nice linux distro that'll run on it (i know the cpu is relatively weak compared to even lowend desktop and mobile cpu's that linux currently runs on)
and finally...how drop tolerant is it? my gf has butter-fingers sometimes and doesnt keep it in a case (imma kill her for that one). i'd like if it survived till she got tired of it or till its outdated enough that she moves on...because then i get to play with it ALL i want. i'd LOVE a nice portable internet device with gps capability for free, but will it ever be bootable without a sim card or a calling plan? i hope that oneday it will be!

huzudra said:
I dont have the phone here (its the gf's) but when i had the battery cover off it looked like there were 2 identical ports next to each other. one is labeled GPS on the back cover but the other doesnt open to the back cover. whats that one for? is that for an external wifi antenna? that'd be tits!
also, does anyone know if the current 3D driver plays nicely with the 6.1 update from AT&T? i dont see THAT rom mentioned on the class action website.
now some other questions...
any time frame for a 2D driver?
how long till theres a nice linux distro that'll run on it (i know the cpu is relatively weak compared to even lowend desktop and mobile cpu's that linux currently runs on)
and finally...how drop tolerant is it? my gf has butter-fingers sometimes and doesnt keep it in a case (imma kill her for that one). i'd like if it survived till she got tired of it or till its outdated enough that she moves on...because then i get to play with it ALL i want. i'd LOVE a nice portable internet device with gps capability for free, but will it ever be bootable without a sim card or a calling plan? i hope that oneday it will be!
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The 2nd port is for the cell phone antanna I here that if you use it, it can sometimes get stuck and cause you to have to always use an external antanna to get service
Im an electrician and the 1st day I got my phone I was on top of a 5' latter and the case got hung on something and opend causeing the phone to drop about 7' to a tile floor,dident hurt mine (thank god) but I wouldent recommend droping it the screens are fragile
I dont think anyone knows if or when were getting the 2d drivers

mech_supernova said:
The 2nd port is for the cell phone antanna I here that if you use it, it can sometimes get stuck and cause you to have to always use an external antanna to get service
Im an electrician and the 1st day I got my phone I was on top of a 5' latter and the case got hung on something and opend causeing the phone to drop about 7' to a tile floor,dident hurt mine (thank god) but I wouldent recommend droping it the screens are fragile
I dont think anyone knows if or when were getting the 2d drivers
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thanks for the fast reply and your drop sounds like it was pretty harsh. by zeus himself im going to get her a case. she works in cars all day and leaves it in her pocket or out on the workbench, the camera glass is already all scratched to hell from her pocket. i swear she makes problems for me to fix them...
speaking of, when i updated it to wm 6.1 i had made a backup using sprite, then i restored the backup after the wm6.1 update. well i did a dum dum and restored EVERYTHING the backup saved! so this caused all kinds of errors and problems and she was very pissed and instead of letting me fix it...she drove 30 minutes in the rain to the att store with me being pulled behind her by my ear (almost literally). some chubby guy played with the phone for about 45 minutes and then said 'i've never seen this before, its totally broke. the wm6.1 update you installed wasnt compatible' i told him it was the official one from the att website to which he said 'yea well its not for THIS device, you'll need to send it in for warranty'...yea OK. so NOW my gf is STEAMED! we go to get some chinese takeout. while waiting the 15 minutes i do a hard reset and only restore the contacts list. i hand her the phone and say 'the warranty dept is done with your phone ma'am'
she likes 6.1 much better and with some tweaks from kaiser tweak it runs pretty quick! the only thing that still pains me is the page tearing due to lack of 2d driver

[Q] Anybody have experience with ATT Warranty Center?

Today I went to the AT&T store to complain about the GPS issues on the Captivate. The associate (after looking the device over), gave me a flier/form and told me to take the phone to the local AT&T warranty center. The flier seems to indicate that the warranty center folks would either fix the issue or replace the device if they agree that my phone has an issue and is not (water) damaged etc.
Anybody have any experience with this?

I don't have any experience while owning a Captivate and going to the Warranty Center...
But when I had my Samsung Impression, and the phone display (it was a touchscreen with a slideout keyboard) completely stopped working, it wouldn't register any touch at all, I took it to them, they turned it on, tested that it truly didn't work, and they gave me a new phone (might have been refurbished) on the spot. Walked out with a smile on my face and went on with my day.

Same experience with two LG Xenons with bubbles under the screen. On the spot replacement within 10 minutes after they verified that the moisture sensor was clear.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Refurbished phones are the replacement. Very easy to deal with.

I had the same thing with my wife's Bold - warranty center didn't really try to fix it, just did the replacement. You have to make sure to do the data wipe before the exchange, and they can't do much in terms of data transfer. Process itself is very quick and straight-forward.
For my captivate GPS I just did a mail replacement. Gives me the time to swap everything at home with no pressure.

Funny you should ask. I'm currently dealing with a warranty exchange via phone and mail. I called customer support and told them about the random shutdown issue. They transferred me to the "Android" department. The Android department has heard about this so-called random shutdown issue so they sent me a replacement (refurb) phone after asking me questions like "Has your phone ever been dropped?" "Are there any damages to the screen?" "There is a square sticker right next to the 3 golden battery connector prongs. What color is it?" (FYI. If your phone gets wet, that white square will turn to a different color! Mine is still white. Never been in water. Anyway...)
They sent me the phone yesterday and today I turned it on. There was a new problem. It randomly takes me back to the Home screen when I'm just casually browsing the web, flipping through my apps, etc. It doesn't force close the app or system that I'm on. I just boots me out of whatever I'm doing and shows me the Home screen. So, I called to tell them about this problem. It is now in a box that it originally came in and it's waiting to be shipped out. They will give me another Captivate in the mail by Friday.

jaykishora said:
Today I went to the AT&T store to complain about the GPS issues on the Captivate. The associate (after looking the device over), gave me a flier/form and told me to take the phone to the local AT&T warranty center. The flier seems to indicate that the warranty center folks would either fix the issue or replace the device if they agree that my phone has an issue and is not (water) damaged etc.
Anybody have any experience with this?
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The Warranty Repair Center in my town doesn't stock Captivates. They'll take a look at the phone to see if it was damaged or submerged, then tell you to call the 800 number. Or, you can skip driving in to a warranty center and just call the 800 number. The people there will talk you through some basic troubleshooting, then ship you a replacement (ground is standard, you can pay for an upgrade to overnight). You have 10 days after that to return your phone.
As for your GPS problems.... if you've upgraded to JH7 and can get a solid lock out in the open under a clear sky, well... Sorry to disappoint, but your replacement phone is probably going to have just as many problems with the GPS. I do (and I'm on my 4th Captivate), so do 7 of my friends and coworkers who have Captivates, and so do about 90% or more of the people reporting on the forums.
According to AT&T and Samsung, the JH7 update 'addressed the GPS issues'. And it did make it better... Before, it would just about never lock on. Now I can usually get a lock within 10~20 seconds and it'll show me where I should be.... until I go for a drive.
The test is this: install My Tracks and go for a drive around town. Once you're done, take a look at your track.
If you've got a softtop convertable or a fiberglass roof, you're good.
If you've got the phone far forward on the dash and have a large, steeply raked windshield, you're good.
If you've got a large sunroof, you might be good.
Otherwise, you're stuck with a measured 50m~100m accuracy (it reports 15m~30m, but don't believe it) if you can even maintain lock.
Good luck!

RexEscape said:
Funny you should ask. I'm currently dealing with a warranty exchange via phone and mail. I called customer support and told them about the random shutdown issue. They transferred me to the "Android" department. The Android department has heard about this so-called random shutdown issue so they sent me a replacement (refurb) phone after asking me questions like "Has your phone ever been dropped?" "Are there any damages to the screen?" "There is a square sticker right next to the 3 golden battery connector prongs. What color is it?" (FYI. If your phone gets wet, that white square will turn to a different color! Mine is still white. Never been in water. Anyway...)
They sent me the phone yesterday and today I turned it on. There was a new problem. It randomly takes me back to the Home screen when I'm just casually browsing the web, flipping through my apps, etc. It doesn't force close the app or system that I'm on. I just boots me out of whatever I'm doing and shows me the Home screen. So, I called to tell them about this problem. It is now in a box that it originally came in and it's waiting to be shipped out. They will give me another Captivate in the mail by Friday.
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Mine was doing this too. I disabled plugins and a problematic page would render. Might be something to try just for the heck of it.
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Very easy to deal with IMO. I am on my 3rd captivate.
1st one experienced random shutdowns, 2 days later received second one in mail and wouldn't get any network signal, 2 days later my 3rd and hopefully last captivate was on my doorstep.
All you have to do is send in your old unit. I was satisfied with the android people over at ATT.

Dealing with AT&T is MUCH more pleasant then dealing with Samsung for your warranty support. They're quick, they're nice, and they get you in and out in about 30 minutes.

z28james said:
Mine was doing this too. I disabled plugins and a problematic page would render. Might be something to try just for the heck of it.
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Yeah, I don't think it's that. It wasn't just on the Browser. It was also doing it while I was just flipping through the apps or reading an email using the stock email, or SMS, or looking at Settings. Anything I was on, it booted me out and took me to the Home screen. I returned it. I'm getting my 5th Cap today.

Thanks for all the replies. I'll post my experience if it turns out to be any special or interesting.
One other question. My phone is currently rooted. Should I spend effort unrooting it or it should be fine?

Unroot it and/or flash it back to original JF6 using ODIN One-click. If you've installed Froyo, do a Master Reset so it'll delete traces of 2.2 folders and whatnot. Backup first!

Pleasant experience
I went to the AT&T warranty center last weekend and was in and out of the store in less than 10 minutes with a new Captivate in hand. It was an extremely pleasant experience.
Just want to say that this replacement device (new and not refurbished) locks the GPS in about 10 sec inside the car and even faster under the sky and remains spot on. This leads me to believe that it may be some batches of device with buggy hardware with GPS issues.
Thanks

100% of the phones you get at the device support centers are refurbished sport. I'm a manager at one. If they told you it was new you have been whamboozled
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RexEscape said:
Unroot it and/or flash it back to original JF6 using ODIN One-click. If you've installed Froyo, do a Master Reset so it'll delete traces of 2.2 folders and whatnot. Backup first!
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I'm a manager at one of the at&t device support centers. Odin one click flash to original software is the only way to pass our inspections. We're not dumb. We can see if you've monkeyed with it in exactly 3 clicks
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Walked in, gave them a Captivate that refused to charge, boot, or respond in any way, walked out with one that works.
Took maybe 30 minutes tops.

danalo1979 said:
100% of the phones you get at the device support centers are refurbished sport. I'm a manager at one. If they told you it was new you have been whamboozled
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When I asked specifically whether the device was refurbished, I was told that it was new unit, as the refurb units have some red sticker on the device (when you take the battery out). Either way it does not matter to me as this unit works perfectly including the GPS.

jaykishora said:
When I asked specifically whether the device was refurbished, I was told that it was new unit, as the refurb units have some red sticker on the device (when you take the battery out). Either way it does not matter to me as this unit works perfectly including the GPS.
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Looks like you were lied to.
Unless if you were still under your 30 days, which would put you under the buyer's remorse program [completely apart from Warranty], then you'd be receiving a new model.
+ most Warranty Captivates are affected by the random shutdown issue, as they aren't scrapped if they're under the affected IMEI range.
You're using a refurbished Captivate, all in all.

My first phone was rooted and then the random crashes started. It got so bad I couldnt turn the phone on unless I did a battery pull then with the charger plugged in and finger banging and milking a cow at the same time.
I finally got it into download mode and went back to stock. I went to the tech center explained what happened and she replaced it right on the spot and gave me a NEW phone, battery and charger. BUT she gave me my old battery cover. :-(
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Possible MAJOR discovery regarding battery/red lite issue.

So I'm one of the people that's been having major issues with the red light/ no boot issue.
I think the issue (for me at least) is a hardware flaw. Upon completing the steps to reboot the phone (take case apart, disconnect battery, connect power, wait for battery charge indication, reconnect battery) I can get the phone to boot and function just fine.
I have discovered that upon screwing the battery connection back into the phone, it applies a bit too much pressure on the connection which sends the phone back into the redlite "no boot" mode.
TL;DR, If the battery is connected to the phone too "tightly" with the screws, the issue is caused.
Hardware flaw? I think so.
My Fix? Took out the connecting screws, the connection seems to hold without them and there is no more pressure on the connection without the added thickness of the screws (when putting the back of the case on)
EDIT: Here's a video of what I'm talking about, for those of you who haven't had to deal with this (yet?)
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Hey Google/LG, if you're reading this, Send me a new phone, please!! This is unacceptable!

Good find. Maybe you could try packing the back in places so that no pressure is put on the battery

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Good find. Maybe you could try packing the back in places so that no pressure is put on the battery
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Good Idea, will try it if I encounter this problem again. Seems to hold up, though, even when pressing on the back of the case where the connection is made (down and to the left about 0.5cm from the "n" on the back of the case).

bump--I think people should really see this.

Nice find dude!

I always thought it was a software issue but turns out it is not!
It's still strange that most people have encountered the issue when benchmarking.
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alwaysbboy said:
It's still strange that most people have encountered the issue when benchmarking.
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Perhaps it's just a coincidence. I'll still stay away from benchmarking, though.

alwaysbboy said:
I always thought it was a software issue but turns out it is not!
It's still strange that most people have encountered the issue when benchmarking.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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If the finding is true then here my theory on why it happens mostly during benchmarks.When you run benchmarks, your phone and battery heats up a lot. This can cause the connectors to expand causing screws to get tightened.

i can confirmed this find is true, altough its kinda late for me to read this thread.
here is my version.
im a proud owner of nexus 4. got my phone from the 1st batch order, and the original bumper also :angel:
this morning while watching my kid at school, got nothing to do but overclocking my nexus 4 with morfic's latest beta kernel.
silly i put the min and max at 1.8++ghz and run an antutu test on it. and in another 5 seconds the N4 turned off and practically dead. all buttons combo were negatives. as soon as i arrived home i plugged in the official charger. it just blinking red. few moments after i plugged in the N4 to my laptop. blinking red and driver installed notification showed up. then the red light gone. like forever... no red when i put it on charger nor when connected to the laptop.
ok its a dead meat. im in JAKARTA n got my n4 from the US. none of any LG service centre in my country could help me with it. and the RMA things just too far from me.
so since i left with zero to none option, i was wondering "what if i take off the battery?"
i remember read an article from ifixit about how to teardown the nexus 4 then i found the link.
here it is:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1
what i did was:
1. follow steps number 6 [pictures #1 & #2]
2. number 7 [pictures #1 & #2]
3 and number 9. [pictures #1 & #2. no need do the pictures #3]
4. see the white wire with blue sticky tape right next to the battery? i dont know what is that but i unplugged the golden head off also.
i left it that way for 10 minutes before i put it back all together again [ including the screw battery port holder. just dont screwed them too tight. give a small effort to none power ]
all done and i pressed the power button. its ON like nothing happened before.
when im about to share my fixed in the other thread, i got someone direct me to this thread. so here i am confirming this fixed is legit

Wow!! This fixed my nexus that didn't even have an LED light. You are a life saver!
It's been dead for a week and I was just waiting on warranty. But now it's up and running like a bawse!

Hi
ethugp3pp3r said:
So I'm one of the people that's been having major issues with the red light/ no boot issue.
I think the issue (for me at least) is a hardware flaw. Upon completing the steps to reboot the phone (take case apart, disconnect battery, connect power, wait for battery charge indication, reconnect battery) I can get the phone to boot and function just fine.
I have discovered that upon screwing the battery connection back into the phone, it applies a bit too much pressure on the connection which sends the phone back into the redlite "no boot" mode.
TL;DR, If the battery is connected to the phone too "tightly" with the screws, the issue is caused.
Hardware flaw? I think so.
My Fix? Took out the connecting screws, the connection seems to hold without them and there is no more pressure on the connection without the added thickness of the screws (when putting the back of the case on)
EDIT: Here's a video of what I'm talking about, for those of you who haven't had to deal with this (yet?)
Video of Issue
Hey Google/LG, if you're reading this, Send me a new phone, please!! This is unacceptable!
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This is simply a fault with your phone. Most likely a chip or component isn't soldered correctly or you have a dry joint. When the board is flexed by some force it is breaking or making the connection.
The time will come when even this "fix" for you stops working.
The reason the phone is sometimes failing during stress tests and not coming back on is a safety device. The lithium battery is reporting it is under stress or too hot and the phone shuts down to avoid an explosion. Because there is a big chance the battery is permanently damaged and so potentially dangerous the phone remains in a safety condition wanting to be returned to the manufacturer for testing. Lithium batteries if damaged can explode, imagine if a phone explodes next to your face while you are talking on it? The manufacturers, not wanting a law suit that disfiguring someone might bring, deliberately er on the side of caution.
It's a bit like the limp home mode some cars have when they detect some parameter outside of the norm. You might be able to reset that back to normal by some hack found on the internet but it hasn't fixed the underlying cause.
Regards
Phil

This thread should be stickied as this is a common problem with the Nexus 4.

Just wrote this to bump the thread back to first page so more people can see

Sticky This!
This needs to be stickied!

I'm having a similar issue with my completely stock nexus 4. I can only turn the phone on when it is connected to charger, but this is also very rare. If I manage to turn it on, it shows I have -22% battery left and this doesnt change. I can enter bootloader when charger is connected. I have left it charging overnight, but still it doesn't boot without the charger connected.
Any idea if the fix described here can help me? Can LG service somehow see that the phone has been opened?
I live in unsupported country, so I can't send the phone back to Google. My only hope is this fix here or my local LG service, but I'm not sure if my local LG can even help me, because the phone is not sold here.

Ahhh good thoughts. I've got a replacement battery on the way for that reason... Hopefully it's a problem there.
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Nexus 4, 8Gb, in UK
It arrived Sat (2 days ago) @ 80% charge & about 5 mins after unpacking I noticed it was the 8Gb & not the 16Gb I had ordered
Phoned google for RMA - currently awaiting replacement.
Repacked it, took it to work, had a play, installed maybe 3 apps, browsed a lot though - reboxed it afterward. as I had no case & as I didn't want to risk the RMA I decided not to take it next day.
Case arrives from amazon & I'm back to work today, so I decided to risk it - nexus battery almost dead & powered off.
Connected charger - nexus indicates charging on screen when power button is pushed.
As I lift the phone to power it on 20mins later, charging display blanks & red light starts blinking - swap cable, charger & check connections - all ok - nothing but a red light on a dead phone.
*panic*
read internet: wasted half an hour on button combos streetfighter would be proud of
Found this post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37461951&postcount=3
"Seems to hold up, though, even when pressing on the back of the case where the connection is made (down and to the left about 0.5cm from the "n" on the back of the case)."
After pressing down around there, the red light clears instantly, small vibration & nexus is now charging again.
Am glad I'm sending this unit back, if replacement does this within 30 days then I will give up on LG & wait for next gphone; between this and the glass cracking issues I read of, this may not be the best nexus ever quality wise.
tl;dr Almost virgin Nexus got red light & unresponsive on first charge. After all else failing, firmly pressing the back, directly above the battery connection area immediately revived it...

kwft said:
Nexus 4, 8Gb, in UK
It arrived Sat (2 days ago) @ 80% charge & about 5 mins after unpacking I noticed it was the 8Gb & not the 16Gb I had ordered
Phoned google for RMA - currently awaiting replacement.
Repacked it, took it to work, had a play, installed maybe 3 apps, browsed a lot though - reboxed it afterward. as I had no case & as I didn't want to risk the RMA I decided not to take it next day.
Case arrives from amazon & I'm back to work today, so I decided to risk it - nexus battery almost dead & powered off.
Connected charger - nexus indicates charging on screen when power button is pushed.
As I lift the phone to power it on 20mins later, charging display blanks & red light starts blinking - swap cable, charger & check connections - all ok - nothing but a red light on a dead phone.
*panic*
read internet: wasted half an hour on button combos streetfighter would be proud of
Found this post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37461951&postcount=3
"Seems to hold up, though, even when pressing on the back of the case where the connection is made (down and to the left about 0.5cm from the "n" on the back of the case)."
After pressing down around there, the red light clears instantly, small vibration & nexus is now charging again.
Am glad I'm sending this unit back, if replacement does this within 30 days then I will give up on LG & wait for next gphone; between this and the glass cracking issues I read of, this may not be the best nexus ever quality wise.
tl;dr Almost virgin Nexus got red light & unresponsive on first charge. After all else failing, firmly pressing the back, directly above the battery connection area immediately revived it...
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So you didn't even take it apart to revive it? Interesting... I haven't had this issue myself in the 2 and a half months with this phone, but nice to know what to do if it arises.

It sounds like it could be dodgy solder joints, although I'm tempted to say that I'm currently ****ting myself. Things like glass cracking doesn't worry me, people are clumsy and that usually will cause that. However, we have no control over the quality of the circuitry inside.
The thing is, the poster above says wait for the next GPhone, it's been announced for next year. So you're going to be waiting a hell of a long time. This phone I hope will suffice while you do so however.

kwft said:
After pressing down around there, the red light clears instantly, small vibration & nexus is now charging again.
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Nice to see that helps. I need a fix that allows me to "pull" on it and then push it again

Reflow Main Board @home

I was given this Verizon G2. The complaint was random reboots resulting in getting stuck at LG logo at boot. I Googled and found out that the internal SD card solder connection to the main board goes bad. So, I tried a standard conventional oven @ home reflow of the main board. I removed the G2 main board and baked it in the oven at 380° for 8 mins. I am typing this post from the phone. It successfully rebooted on the first try after reassembly. It has been up running CyanogenMod 12.1 (flashed before bake) for about 10 mins. I booted it and went straight to chrome and xda.com. I'll be back later. I'm gonna go make some calls and play games and see if I still get a reboot.
Update 1: I'm an hour or two in now and have made a 20+ minute phone call while using a Bluetooth headset and still using other apps like social media and reddit.
Update 2 -Final update: Since I got zero replies on this, I'll assume no one cares. If anyone does, the phone is still working. I've been using it as my daily driver for like 3 or 4 days now. I'm gonna keep using it for another couple weeks until my tax return gets in and I can buy an unlocked D851.
.........The End........

I say FASCINATING! How do you get it apart to get the main board out? Mine never gets LTE anymore, which sounds to me like an antenna came disconnected. Heating up the antenna connections might be worth a shot.

fatboyRICH said:
I was given this Verizon G2. The complaint was random reboots resulting in getting stuck at LG logo at boot. I Googled and found out that the internal SD card solder connection to the main board goes bad. So, I tried a standard conventional oven @ home reflow of the main board. I removed the G2 main board and baked it in the oven at 380° for 8 mins. I am typing this post from the phone. It successfully rebooted on the first try after reassembly. It has been up running CyanogenMod 12.1 (flashed before bake) for about 10 mins. I booted it and went straight to chrome and xda.com. I'll be back later. I'm gonna go make some calls and play games and see if I still get a reboot.
Update 1: I'm an hour or two in now and have made a 20+ minute phone call while using a Bluetooth headset and still using other apps like social media and reddit.
Update 2 -Final update: Since I got zero replies on this, I'll assume no one cares. If anyone does, the phone is still working. I've been using it as my daily driver for like 3 or 4 days now. I'm gonna keep using it for another couple weeks until my tax return gets in and I can buy an unlocked D851.
.........The End........
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You will never be able to truly reflow any electronic devices in your typical household oven as they do not get hot enough. Standard leadfree reflow temperatures peak around 500F, after a ramp up and ramp down time that prevents thermal stresses from destroying the parts. Even with the proper equipment, reflowing BGA/CSP parts is difficult without removing the parts first and then re-balling them as the flux has already been cured during the initial solder process.
I would seriously caution anyone from attempting this without the proper tools and knowledge as you could permanently damage any one of a number of components - I've seen IC packages literally explode after absorbed moisture in the device's resin packaging vaporized by ramping too fast.
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I care Rich, I care. I loved my G2 but it crapped out on me at school one day. No warning just froze and shut down. Got it back up long enough at one point to pull whatever data I could from it. I ended up getting an S6 Active after jumping between a few crap phones, and the G2 sat in a drawer until tonight when I was looking for some standoff screws in the drawer, and I saw my old flame. The pain from losing her never really went away, and for some reason, I think because I recently did a bit of soldering on a RPi, I thought what if I tried to re-flow this thing? What do I have to lose at this point. Googled g2 mainboard reflow, and your post lit up my life. I baked at 380F for some amount of time re-assembled and I have my G2 again! I may have tried it eventually, but your post inspired me to tear that **** out and turn on the oven right away. I mean, obviously I'm not going to ditch my S6 for the G2, but I'm happy to have it back. Maybe I'll use it for things. Thank you, Rich.

I care!
Mine stopped working.
Was getting pretty hot on a regular basis.
When plugged-in, no lights, just heating up.
Read about "solder re-flow" - don't know how to.