I was at the Mall today and people were lined up at an "Armour screen protector" kiosk. I don;t understand screen protectors. They are paying $25 for a screen protector to keep their screen from scratching. But they are also playing $25 for a screen protector that WILL get scratched up and then maybe another $25 in 6 months to replace that "ugly" one.....all while at the end of the day delivering a pristine phone to .......someone else.
My take is I want to use the phone as designed. I have not found any screen protector that is as smooth and clear as the glass. I want to enjoy the phone not protect it from scratches. My screen is pretty scratched up from pocket carrying but when i turn it on they all magically "disappear" Only when the phone is off and in my pocket does it look like its used.
Now some will say they will get more for their phone when they sell them if they are flawless. I would rather save all the money spent on cases and screen protectors and sell the phone at a $50- $70 discount to market and in the mean time enjoy the phone as designed. When I sell them I explicitly state anal buyers and those who "wear" their phones should pass despite the price. When I buy a used phone i will take the discount for a wear and tear phone rather than a pristine one.
Plus one can always throw a screen protector on and "erase" all the scratches if they are that OCD about these things. My Note will sell for $290 all day long with hairline scratches all over the screen which is about a $50-$100 discount to what they are selling on Ebay used, I will throw it up with no reserve and a buy in now price of $270 and see where the bidding goes. I'm betting either it goes for $270 very quickly or it gets bid to $300. now I know there are cheap Hong Kong screen protectors and they may be good. But nothing is as good as glass......I even am aware of the glass screen protectors which i found rather ridiculous as they can scratch as well..scratched screen protectors look as bad as a scratched phone!
I did get one of those $3 Hong Kong "gel" cases but hated it as I could not get it out of the pocket. The phone is big enough without a sticky rubber case. If I drop it.... my bad. but $25 for a "screen protector? Really? I think the people who make the claims that screen protectors are "better" then the glass...probably sell them at huge Margins....I am guessing 300-400% or more. Fear sells and OCD people line up for $35 "screen protectors" at Mall kiosks. I don;t know about many but scratching a $25 piece of olohenfdgc mastedfde" plastic would piss me off. That is not supposed to scratch its scratch "resistant"
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Are there any others out there who disdain all cases and screen protectors and just enjoy their devices care free?
I totally understand your point. 25 dollars is ridiculous for screen protector. I do try to have to get one around 10 dollars though.
It is more of a feeling like if your car gets dinged or scratched. I dont think I ever cared about scratching my phones before the smartphone era though.
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kvssvarma said:
I totally understand your point. 25 dollars is ridiculous for screen protector. I do try to have to get one around 10 dollars though.
It is more of a feeling like if your car gets dinged or scratched. I dont think I ever cared about scratching my phones before the smartphone era though.
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People have become conditioned by cleaver advertising to viewing these tools as Jewelry for profit. The funny thing is these are not items we even keep a long time. The Zagg people really have created a business from nothing but fear and obsessive compulsion. I have witnessed people who would lose sleep if their phones got dinged. This is not a $25,000 car here with a door ding. Its a $600 cell phone, a tool, I guess I am not an OCD type about anything. I don;t understand "glass" (on glass) screen protection. LOL
I simply use things and don't obsess over them except that they work perfectly and do what they are designed to do each and every time.When I buy something used I want to know one thing. Does it work like it was designed? Not is that a small ding I see photo on the corner in that 200% zoomed or hairline scratches on the screen. When someone starts asking those questions on my sales I tell them to move along and spend another $50 or $100 bucks.
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I was at the Mall today and people were lined up at an "Armour screen protector" kiosk. I don;t understand screen protectors. They are paying $25 for a screen protector to keep their screen from scratching. But they are also playing $25 for a screen protector that WILL get scratched up and then maybe another $25 in 6 months to replace that "ugly" one.....all while at the end of the day delivering a pristine phone to .......someone else.
My take is I want to use the phone as designed. I have not found any screen protector that is as smooth and clear as the glass. I want to enjoy the phone not protect it from scratches. My screen is pretty scratched up from pocket carrying but when i turn it on they all magically "disappear" Only when the phone is off and in my pocket does it look like its used.
Now some will say they will get more for their phone when they sell them if they are flawless. I would rather save all the money spent on cases and screen protectors and sell the phone at a $50- $70 discount to market and in the mean time enjoy the phone as designed. When I sell them I explicitly state anal buyers and those who "wear" their phones should pass despite the price. When I buy a used phone i will take the discount for a wear and tear phone rather than a pristine one.
Plus one can always throw a screen protector on and "erase" all the scratches if they are that OCD about these things. My Note will sell for $290 all day long with hairline scratches all over the screen which is about a $50-$100 discount to what they are selling on Ebay used, I will throw it up with no reserve and a buy in now price of $270 and see where the bidding goes. I'm betting either it goes for $270 very quickly or it gets bid to $300. now I know there are cheap Hong Kong screen protectors and they may be good. But nothing is as good as glass......I even am aware of the glass screen protectors which i found rather ridiculous as they can scratch as well..scratched screen protectors look as bad as a scratched phone!
I did get one of those $3 Hong Kong "gel" cases but hated it as I could not get it out of the pocket. The phone is big enough without a sticky rubber case. If I drop it.... my bad. but $25 for a "screen protector? Really?
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Are there any others out there who disdain all cases and screen protectors and just enjoy their devices care free?
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I had the same mentality with my last 3 smart phones, until IT happens.
You get a giant scratch going straight down the middle of your screen.
Its horrible, you see it during games, movies, browsing, EVERYTHING.
In short, I'm not making the same mistake twice. I'll pay an extra $15 every 12 months to see a fresh scratch less screen.
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tbong777 said:
I was at the Mall today and people were lined up at an "Armour screen protector" kiosk. I don;t understand screen protectors. They are paying $25 for a screen protector to keep their screen from scratching. But they are also playing $25 for a screen protector that WILL get scratched up and then maybe another $25 in 6 months to replace that "ugly" one.....all while at the end of the day delivering a pristine phone to .......someone else.
My take is I want to use the phone as designed. I have not found any screen protector that is as smooth and clear as the glass. I want to enjoy the phone not protect it from scratches. My screen is pretty scratched up from pocket carrying but when i turn it on they all magically "disappear" Only when the phone is off and in my pocket does it look like its used.
Now some will say they will get more for their phone when they sell them if they are flawless. I would rather save all the money spent on cases and screen protectors and sell the phone at a $50- $70 discount to market and in the mean time enjoy the phone as designed. When I sell them I explicitly state anal buyers and those who "wear" their phones should pass despite the price. When I buy a used phone i will take the discount for a wear and tear phone rather than a pristine one.
Plus one can always throw a screen protector on and "erase" all the scratches if they are that OCD about these things. My Note will sell for $290 all day long with hairline scratches all over the screen which is about a $50-$100 discount to what they are selling on Ebay used, I will throw it up with no reserve and a buy in now price of $270 and see where the bidding goes. I'm betting either it goes for $270 very quickly or it gets bid to $300. now I know there are cheap Hong Kong screen protectors and they may be good. But nothing is as good as glass......I even am aware of the glass screen protectors which i found rather ridiculous as they can scratch as well..scratched screen protectors look as bad as a scratched phone!
I did get one of those $3 Hong Kong "gel" cases but hated it as I could not get it out of the pocket. The phone is big enough without a sticky rubber case. If I drop it.... my bad. but $25 for a "screen protector? Really? I think the people who make the claims that screen protectors are "better" then the glass...probably sell them at huge Margins....I am guessing 300-400% or more. Fear sells and OCD people line up for $35 "screen protectors" at Mall kiosks. I don;t know about many but scratching a $25 piece of olohenfdgc mastedfde" plastic would piss me off. That is not supposed to scratch its scratch "resistant"
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There is merit in what you say.
I agree. .. I quit using screen protectors a long time ago. Have never scratched a phone. Case I will use though. Screen protectors are a waste of time and money. Use the damn phone as intended and stop worrying.
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I totally agree. It doesnt make sense until you become a victim of screen scratching. beware.
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My Note screen is full of small visible scratches. The flip cover created most of them since I live near the beach sand would get in there and scratch the heck out of the screen. I bought the phone used and it had the flip cover on it. I took it off and went naked. Many here would likely break out in sweat if they saw my screen and its really not all that bad LOL.
I have couple deep ones as well but I don't see them when I am using the device. A scratch has to be pretty much a crack for me to be bothered by it while using the device. A lot of mental anguish for nothing. I can understand someone buying a $4 screen protector and dealing with any issues it causes that may take away from the phones display or user experience to avoid the dastardly scratch. But people are being conned into spending $25 to $50 for a device that will keep the real screen no one is using pristine for the next owner and it will get scratched easier than the screen itself !
A case I can understand for those who fear dropping their devices and cannot replace them. But the Note is too big already. cannot imagine it with a case even though its clumsy size and one hand handling begs for one.The Iphone looks like a Key FOB next to it.
I guess I will never understand agonizing over minutia only to sell a pristine phone for another to enjoy and not stress over. Although if a scratch on the screen of a mobile device is the only thing one really worries about, I have to think they have a great life going LOL...
AlexWekell said:
I had the same mentality with my last 3 smart phones, until IT happens.
You get a giant scratch going straight down the middle of your screen.
Its horrible, you see it during games, movies, browsing, EVERYTHING.
In short, I'm not making the same mistake twice. I'll pay an extra $15 every 12 months to see a fresh scratch less screen.
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So this. $25 for a screen protector is highway robbery. ..but you can get protection in the event of *it* much more reasonably. My evo4g I never scrern protected, my note2 I did as the S-pen is an unknown quantity in how hard it can be.
At work my phone lives in a case and holster. Need my phone at work, and a naked phone falling on concrete floor is a shattered screen waiting to happen.
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The OP obviously hasn't tried an SGP Ultra Crystal... but should. The S-Pen feels like a skate on ice right after the Zamboni worked it's magic!
mdt73 said:
The OP obviously hasn't tried an SGP Ultra Crystal... but should. The S-Pen feels like a skate on ice right after the Zamboni worked it's magic!
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OH hell no...No way I would pay $20 for a screen protector.. Got to buy a screen protector to protect the screen protector........What if the screen protector it gets scratched? then I am out $20 and my phone looks like the Shyte I was paying $20 to prevent!! Then another $20 has to be blown Before ya know I have $100 in screen protectors protecting a phone thats dropping in value faster than a hooker at a bachelor party.
Screen protectors are very much a personal choice. There is no right/wrong decision on whether you should use one.
I would say for the everyday office commuter, they are probably overkill. When a desk or a conference table is the harshest environment your phone is ever likely to see, there is no need to sped $15-$20 on a screen protector. You don't wear steel-toe boots and a hard hat to the office for the same reason. It is important to protect your head and feet, but you don't need that level of protection if the environment your in doesn't provide that type of danger.
That being said, I work construction. I work in a technical field (so a phone like this comes in handy), but I'm constantly around dust, debris and micro-particals. I work on hard, filthy surfaces; I climb ladders; I'm around power tools. It just isn't a very nice environment for consumer electronics. I use a screen protector. I also wear a hard-hat and steel-toe boots when I'm on the job. The protection is needed.
In regards to gorilla glass, it really is just a matter of physics. Sure you can rake your car keys up and down the screen all day long and not see a scratch. After all, car keys are soft metal. But a single grain of sand, a small rock, or a piece of silica debris can make your $700 phone look like a cutting board. All that is required for a scratch is an object with the right hardness combined with the right amount of force. This is not hard to achieve.
Another thing to consider: As your phone gets older and more used, you will develop wear spots. These are micro-patterns that develop in the glass over the most frequently used parts of the screen. They are hard to see, and can only be seen in the right light, but they will develop. They would develop even if your screen was made of pure diamond. Friction will eventually wear down any surface. But as the above poster points out, how long are you likely to own this phone before you upgrade? You may not have to worry about this.
Only you can decide if a screen protector is worth it for you. For me, I believe they are. For others, not so much. The fact is, there IS a legitimate market for them and it is not all sensationalist nonsense.
Thats my $0.02
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My auction for my immaculate Note 1 ended on this past weekend at $400+30 shipping. I had a screen protector and case on it since I bought it on launch day last October.
I completely understand where you are coming from and sometimes I wish I were more like you, but I'm not. I wish I can just toss my phone around and not give a damn as long as it works, but I can't. I, like some of you guys mentioned, have OCD when it comes to screens and damage on my electronic devices. I can't stand the thought of having a scratch or ding on my device, but I can deal with light scratches and dings on screen protectors and cases. Just knowing my phone is in immaculate condition puts me to ease. For me, it's more of a mental state of mind. I think this applies to some people here too.
Some people do it for the resale value, which I understand. I did not expect my phone to sell so high, but I guess the condition of it really attracted the buyer.
There are many other reasons why people get screen protectors. I hope you understand that not everyone is the same and maybe you can look at this from a different point of view. We all have our reasons and preferences.
It's all about peace of mind. Plus, screen protectors come in many different flavors to suit your preference. You can get completely clear ones that you will never even notice or matte protectors that drastically reduce greasy fingerprints and glare. You can get most good quality protectors for around $10-15. So I would argue that it doesn't make sense not to get one for such an expensive touch screen device. I do agree that the Zagg protectors are terrible, but for some reason they are the only ones carried by retailers like Best Buy. Many people swear by them though.
Let me also that you get what you paid for. Some people say "hey the screen protector sucks" well that's probably because he paid 2 dollars for it on Amazon.
When you get a screen protector, quality matters, don't judge based on those that China dime store crap.
At this point if you do your research and apply it right, it feels and looks like nothing is on your phone.
Plus, better resale value and peace of mind.
Don't ask me how, but I dropped a fork right on my screen, it warped the hell out of my screen protector and I freaked out, pulled off my screen protector, and not a scratch was on the glass.
We all make mistakes, and accidents happen, I for one would rather play it safe, and seeing as a measly screen protector for a small amount amount of money is all that separates my phone from having a non repairable scratch on the glass forever or a simple screen protector dent that can be replaced, then I'm fine with using them.
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tbong777 said:
OH hell no...No way I would pay $20 for a screen protector.. Got to buy a screen protector to protect the screen protector........What if the screen protector it gets scratched? then I am out $20 and my phone looks like the Shyte I was paying $20 to prevent!! Then another $20 has to be blown Before ya know I have $100 in screen protectors protecting a phone thats dropping in value faster than a hooker at a bachelor party.
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Uh, I just bought a pair of SGP ultra crystal protectors on amazon for $14 shipped (I have amazon prime). So, I guess we're in agreement that I, too, wouldn't pay $20 for a screen protector.
The flaw in your logic is the part when you say "What if the screen protector it gets scratched?" Remove the word protector from that question, and now you know why we use screen protectors. Would cost you a lot more than $7, or $20 for that matter.
We can all agree that 25 bucks for a plastic screen protector is over priced....
But really, I don't quite comprehend how a sensible person can state that a screen protector is "a waste of money" or "worthless" or follow the logic that simply because the protector will itself get scratched that somehow that correlates to the use of one being illogical....
The WHOLE point of the protector is insurance that your screen won't get scratched AND has less chance of getting damaged in a drop where the screen is impacted.
If you don't want to use one fine... but to argue that this is somehow a scam is like arguing that airbags are a scam, or that race car drivers don't need multi-point seat belts. They may never get used but you won't find a driver in the world that wouldn't wear one just in case.
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We can all agree that 25 bucks for a plastic screen protector is over priced....
But really, I don't quite comprehend how a sensible person can state that a screen protector is "a waste of money" or "worthless" or follow the logic that simply because the protector will itself get scratched that somehow that correlates to the use of one being illogical....
The WHOLE point of the protector is insurance that your screen won't get scratched AND has less chance of getting damaged in a drop where the screen is impacted.
If you don't want to use one fine... but to argue that this is somehow a scam is like arguing that airbags are a scam, or that race car drivers don't need multi-point seat belts. They may never get used but you won't find a driver in the world that wouldn't wear one just in case.
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Equating Screen protectors with seat belts or multipurpose seat belts in a race car makes my point. Lets see.......... a scratched screen or dead body....Yeah that's a good analogy and appropriate for the anxiety some people feel about these devices I think the rant is more about being anal bout a device people don;t keep for sometimes even 6 months. Then bump a sell for weeks because no one wants to pay top dollar for a year old device anyway, Very few Note s are going on Ebay for even $350 . If someone wants to pay $400 for a Pristine old Note God Bless them. I believe most would rather pay less than $300 and cover up a scratched screen with a $3 screen protector if that bothers them. But that's just me. Personally I would pay less for a wear and tear phone than a pristine one because I use the phone. I don't wear them. If it looked that bad I would skinnit.
$25 screen protectors are a scam IMO.
If one believes they will drop their phone, put it in a good heavy duty case. No screen protector will prevent a screen from cracking if the phone is dropped on one of the four corners the corner, It may only suffer one or two cracks though
I understand what you say. I never buy screen protectors, mainly because many of them degrade the quality of the screen, but also like you said it doesn't feel as nice to the touch as glass. But maybe I'll change my mind if I see that magical screen protector that can't be detected on the screen and feels as good as glass.
MohJee said:
I understand what you say. I never buy screen protectors, mainly because many of them degrade the quality of the screen, but also like you said it doesn't feel as nice to the touch as glass. But maybe I'll change my mind if I see that magical screen protector that can't be detected on the screen and feels as good as glass.
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I guess I want to enjoy the phone as is. Slim slick body. Slick glass. Slips in a pocket easy and undetectable for a huge device. The only thing I know that will mar the glass is sand. That is what made the hairline scratches on mine. But even most of those scratches cannot be felt with a fingernail I have two small ones that can be if one tries hard enough. The stylus is completely safe and way softer than glass
The screen protectors they were selling at the mall felt like smooth Zagg. Rubbery and they did show a difference in screen quality. I was astonished at the prices more than anything. I thought Best Buy's $19.99 screen protectors were a stretch. The box looked really important though.Marketing is a wonderful thing.
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Two parts to this question-
1st part kind of a poll. Who thinks it is necessary or helpful to put a screen protector on the T-Mo HD2, and why?
Of course I want to protect the screen on my HD2, as much as possible. I think the screen is already scratch resistant, and I am not sure if a screen protector would add anything in that regard. I don't see how a screen protector could possibly protect against breakage, or internal LCD damage.
I have seen some reports, of screen sensitivity being diminished by screen protectors.
Of course the companies that make them, will try to sell people on it. That is called "manufactured demand", creating a need that isn't there.
Your opinion? Do they really help protect the phone?
I am about to purchase some items from Amazon. I see they have one screen protector (manufacturer Amzer) for $6.95 with free shipping (if total order is more than $25, which mine is). I haven't heard of that company before, but it sounds good from the description (no user reviews). (It even says "anti-reflective" and "free from fingerprints", and those are two problems the screen has--fingerprint magnet, and very reflective. Don't know if those claims are true though.) Has anyone tried this brand? Any good?
The link for that is: http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-Screen-..._14?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1281121428&sr=8-14
They even have some cheaper, a dollar or less, with $3 shipping. Do a search on Amazon for HD2 screen protector.
The following link includes a rubber case such as the one that comes with the unit, plus a screen protector, for $1.54 +2.98 shipping: http://www.amazon.com/HTC-T-Mobile-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1281121428&sr=8-1
Another is only 46 cents plus shipping.
Are there really any differences in these? They are only tiny pieces of plastic. Seems like they should cost less than a buck, not $10 or $15, as some do.
In any case, I am thinking of getting the Amzer, as it can have free shipping with the rest of my order, and sounds good. Anyone here used it?
Still undecided though--whether there is any point in getting a screen protector at all, or just one of those "manufactured demand" products, that really doesn't help anything.
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Between this forum and the official T-Mobile forum on their website, I'm seeing quite a few instances of shattered LCD screens from people dropping their HD2s. You'll also see that there are now many replacement screens showing up on eBay, for example. My point is that you might consider acquiring more than just a screen protector for your HD2.
I personally purchased an Otterbox Defender case for my HD2. It has a built-in screen protector as one of its layers of protection, and the multi-part case appears to thoroughly protect the phone (including from my 7 year old). There are lots of cases out there, so I'm not actually suggesting that you get one from Otterbox (and I don't work for them). Some people say, for example, the the Defender case is overkill, and makes the phone too bulky for their taste.
I'm just saying that a $100 to $300 phone might warrant more than a screen protector.
in my opinion there is no such thing as to much protection
My car has airbags everywhere ,but i still wear my seat belt
def put a screen protector, that is the first thing you do when you get a phone like the hd2
Most things break when you drop them... it's called gravity. There's no solution for clumsiness you'll have to get something like the otterbox for some gravity proof protection. I've considered getting the otterbox myself but it takes away so much of the aesthetics of the phone....
My HD2 has a screen protector and a well padded leather case.... i've been doing this for all my previous phones. Sure i've had some slips and tumbles but the leather case protects most the impacts no problems.
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Most things break when you drop them... it's called gravity.
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A tennis ball doesn't break when you drop it!
Seriously, one would think that they might have strong enough materials available today, so that a phoine would not break if dropped.
But certainly--a screen protector would not protect one iota against dropping!
What exactly, does a screen protector protect against?
Do you also put one on your laptop screen?
If scratches on the screen bother you, screen protector will help with preventing that. The HD2 is not as scratch resistance as some of the youtube videos lead you to believe. I am careful with mine and still manages to get some minor scratches on it. When it comes to preventing the phone from breaking during a drop, I think your best bet is a otterbox defender.
I put a screen protector on my HD2 I have no sensativity issues but the feel of the screen protector is obvious when you slide your finger on the screen. My wife does not have the screen protector and it feels smooth to the touch but there is no difference as far as sensativity goes I used a zagg invisible shiled.
No scratches on my screen eventhough I carry it with keys and coins in front pocket sometimes. Only cracked screen from dropping it! Getting Otterbox Commuter case for my new replacement HD2 but NO screen protector. This screen doesn't get scratched very easily at all.
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Between this forum and the official T-Mobile forum on their website, I'm seeing quite a few instances of shattered LCD screens from people dropping their HD2s.
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I say get it...
Filed my insurance claim today, should get it tomorrow. Free next day air.
Oh, and bought commuter case too. A bit late it seems though..
No screen protector would have prevented that. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Probably not, but since that incident, i'm going all out.
Thanks for the links!
I have one of the Invisible shield covers on mine & i like the feeling of knowing if the protector comes off ill get to see the screen BRAND NEW while i'm replacing the cover.
On an ass-backwards note, i also have the Body Glove case with the kickstand from T-Mobile and the only reason is for the kickstand. It feels like if i dropped the phone the case would shatter my phone would be goin to bed dead.
I am pretty careful with my stuff but as others have mentioned, theres no such thing as too much... im probably going to order that same black case though.
as for the screen, you never know... i'd rather be safe than sorry. I feel putting a $10 screen protector on a $500 phone isnt a big deal.
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A tennis ball doesn't break when you drop it!
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If it's cold enough it will...lol
Seriously... Otterbox rules!
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Seriously, one would think that they might have strong enough materials available today, so that a phoine would not break if dropped.
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Well, materials like that do exist, ones that could make the phone near indestructable. Unfortunately, they're prohibitively bulky or expensive and would jack up the price and/or size of the phone. The treated glass used on the screen is the best attempt at a compromise on this that's really available.
I've honestly been using my HD2 since March with nothing but the rubber cover that HTC provided in the box, and I have yet to get a single scratch on it...but, I know I'm probably just fortunate with that. I have a screen protector on my TP2, and I know that it's definitely saved me from scratches on a number of occassions....but then again that screen isn't anywhere near as hard as the one on the HD2.
I've got an otterbox commuter series case on the way now, but I'll probably try it without the screen protector at first. I reeeeeally like the feel of the bare glass
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Well, materials like that do exist, ones that could make the phone near indestructable. Unfortunately, they're prohibitively bulky or expensive and would jack up the price and/or size of the phone. The treated glass used on the screen is the best attempt at a compromise on this that's really available.
I've honestly been using my HD2 since March with nothing but the rubber cover that HTC provided in the box, and I have yet to get a single scratch on it...but, I know I'm probably just fortunate with that. I have a screen protector on my TP2, and I know that it's definitely saved me from scratches on a number of occassions....but then again that screen isn't anywhere near as hard as the one on the HD2.
I've got an otterbox commuter series case on the way now, but I'll probably try it without the screen protector at first. I reeeeeally like the feel of the bare glass
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Corning developed a glass many years ago that was dubbed "Gorilla glass" for its toughness and durability. I used to work summers for them, and at the time it was a nice invention that no one could find a use for -- we didn't have widescreen computer monitors or HDTVs, or cell phones, for that matter. Besides, it was considered expensive to manufacture. I read recently that Corning is now testing this old, very tough but thin glass for use in large TV screens and, soon, for cell phone screens. Maybe this will increase the durability of the touch screens for future phones. But for now, cases and screen protectors (should) rule the day.
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Corning developed a glass many years ago that was dubbed "Gorilla glass" for its toughness and durability. I used to work summers for them, and at the time it was a nice invention that no one could find a use for -- we didn't have widescreen computer monitors or HDTVs, or cell phones, for that matter. Besides, it was considered expensive to manufacture. I read recently that Corning is now testing this old, very tough but thin glass for use in large TV screens and, soon, for cell phone screens. Maybe this will increase the durability of the touch screens for future phones. But for now, cases and screen protectors (should) rule the day.
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Yes, actually Gorilla glass has already been used on a cellphone (or more than one perhaps), I belive the Motorola Droid was the first one. From what I understand, the HD2 doesn't have the acutal Gorilla Glass, but rather some similar hardness treatment.
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I've got an otterbox commuter series case on the way now, but I'll probably try it without the screen protector at first. I reeeeeally like the feel of the bare glass
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Where did you find an Otterbox Commuter case to fit a TMO-US HTC HD2? I've checked on eBay and Amazon and they only have the Int'l version available.
TKruzze said:
Where did you find an Otterbox Commuter case to fit a TMO-US HTC HD2? I've checked on eBay and Amazon and they only have the Int'l version available.
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At otterbox of course.
http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/h...cases-u.s./htc-hd2-commuter-series-case-u.s./
And to add to the whole screen protector on mine. I never had one until I dropped it and it landed face down on a pile of small hard dry rocks. Then slid across the ground. It made two small but noticeable deep scratches.
ddgarcia05 said:
At otterbox of course.
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I should have figured that. I'm just not a fan of paying retail. Otterbox sells their cases for 50% more than sites like Amazon, NewEgg, and eBay. Now that the U.S. version's supply is becoming more available my guess is that these places will begin selling the U.S. version as well.
simple question that I'm asking myself since I got my n7: should I buy a screen protector or not? I would hate to get scratches on this awesome screen... but maybe the glass is tough enough by itself, like the motorola defy's?
what are your thoughts/experiences?
odoto said:
simple question that I'm asking myself since I got my n7: should I buy a screen protector or not? I would hate to get scratches on this awesome screen... but maybe the glass is tough enough by itself, like the motorola defy's?
what are your thoughts/experiences?
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i got me a invisishield screen protector just because i like to keep my screens looking good and it helps to sell it when all you have to do is take off the protector and the screen looks brand new.
I'm usually pretty anal about screen protectors, but I bought a smart case that covers the screen instead. Unless you use a case also, I'd get one. I'd much rather spend a few bucks on a protector than years regretting it.
A scratch is possible, things happen, so if you're worried then I'd say put one on. I intend to, and have lasted this long, but you just never know. Apart from a dead pixel, a scratched screen is pretty bad. Better safe than sorry, as they say.
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mustbepbs said:
I'm usually pretty anal about screen protectors, but I bought a smart case that covers the screen instead. Unless you use a case also, I'd get one. I'd much rather spend a few bucks on a protector than years regretting it.
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it is not so much about the money actually... more about possibly negative effects on screen quality and touch screen experience...
regarding cases... I want to get one anyway... don't want to shove my brand new n7 in my backpack without protection
I don't think a case renders a screen protector obsolete though... there is still the possibility of scratches due to dust particles and stuff while using or cleaning the touch screen....
I always use those anti-glare or anti-finger print screen protector. It defuses the glare and it protect the screen. HOWEVER, you cannot expect 100% clarity on these but I am ok since I use my tablet mainly to read
- Charles
i usually put screen protectors on all of my electronics. i just like the extra scratch proof protection. i order all of my skins from bestskinsever.com because the prices are good. hope this helps
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I'd much rather spend a few bucks on a protector than years regretting it.
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This ^ times ten with a cherry on top!
That said many cases now come with free screen protectors as added 'value'. I've actually bought 3 matt protectors (in a set) and got 6 free gloss ones with the cases I've bought.
I don't know how the other reviews were able to beat the hell out of this thing, but I was on day 12 of my 14 day "trial". My case and screen protector was in the mail, I was getting it the next day. Well on day 12, my phone fell from a counter, onto the linoleum floor. 4 foot height. I didn't notice it until I was putting it on that I managed to crack the screen in the corner:crying:. Thank god it was not spiderveined, or in the touchscreen area (right on the edge/corner).
Also, when applying my just like glass screen protector I did my cleaning, and held my phone horizontally at eye level to make sure it was dust free, and lo and behold, micro scratches galore.
It is hardly noticeable and decided to try to swap, using the excuse I want the white one instead, but they didn't have any in stock. So, I decided to take the high road and am just dealing with it.. I will replace the glass when the hardware warranty runs out, or if it spreads.
With this situation I am trading in my sleek, thin case and going with the otterbox commuter like I had with the past phone. If I can find one.
I don't care what videos show people smacking keys, knives etc on this Gorilla glass, I had the Droid RAZR before this and the screen naked, and it is more pitted than a teenager with a bad case of acne.
Sorry to hear that sometimes when u intend to crack it stands well asif a tank and weirdly smallest falls crack it
I regret that I did not get a screen protector before I got my phone.
I was told the CORNING® GORILLA® GLASS was unable to be scratched on.
It was totally WRONG!!!!!
After using this phone for two weeks, there are some minor scratches already.
Wow. I'm glad when I purchased my phone, my carrier recommended and installed my screen protector for me.
Although I've dropped my phone a few times, I haven't experienced any scratches or anything but I will definitely look into buying an otterbox as well!
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Sorry to hear of your difficulties, but I think your recommendation is too broad. I prefer to avoid the cost and bulk of a case, or the image degradation of a screen protector. I've used my phone extensively for a month, carrying it in my pants pocket or backpack, and the screen has no scratches. And I've never dropped and broken this phone or any other. The desirability of a case or screen protector really depends on what conditions your phone is subjected to.
babiegurl36 said:
Wow. I'm glad when I purchased my phone, my carrier recommended and installed my screen protector for me.
Although I've dropped my phone a few times, I haven't experienced any scratches or anything but I will definitely look into buying an otterbox as well!
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So here is a true story, I had a motorcycle accident. I had all my protective gears but I still had to go through surgeries...my rest, spine extra because my rest, spine was not starched but actually fracture or broken.
So does the screen protector works against starches but you still get a screen cracked.....so in the video they show keys and knife banged against the screen, that's true....but not when you drop it......
I got two cases, one is the ultra thin while the other is a dual layer kickstand.....I like the ultra thin case to help against body starches, while the dual layer just to use for kickstand, you have to be very careful against these phones.....I had dropped my Galaxy S3 with the screen protector and case, my phone was not scratched, but when I turned off the phone and or in ultra black screen I was missing some pixels.
Gary02468 said:
Sorry to hear of your difficulties, but I think your recommendation is too broad. I prefer to avoid the cost and bulk of a case, or the image degradation of a screen protector. I've used my phone extensively for a month, carrying it in my pants pocket or backpack, and the screen has no scratches. And I've never dropped and broken this phone or any other. The desirability of a case or screen protector really depends on what conditions your phone is subjected to.
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Too broad? He couldn't have been more specific. Just a matter of time for you my friend.
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A knife or a set of keys is not a test for scratching glass. Try getting some grains of sand from a peach or a rock...
Even if you don't get a case for your $700 phone, get a screen protector. Hell, I even left my phone untouched and unactivated until my screen protector came.
I've had the nexus, s3, and ip5 and never used a case before but I think I'll have to make an exception for this phone. It's soooo slippery! Plus the fact that it's this big won't help either.
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mastergrim8 said:
A knife or a set of keys is not a test for scratching glass. Try getting some grains of sand from a peach or a rock...
Even if you don't get a case for your $700 phone, get a screen protector. Hell, I even left my phone untouched and unactivated until my screen protector came.
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I made the mistake with my Razr with the original corning glass (which is made 45 mins from my house.. shoutout!!). I didn't know that sandpaper was the devil.. I was usually cautious, kinda. I would keep keys and coins in there if it was an accident, but was always nervous of having stuff in my pocket, with phone, and leaning against something putting pressure on the device and breaking the screen.. that never happened but what did was I actually had a piece of emeroy cloth (like sandpaper) in my pocket with my phone. 5 mins later and I had a scratch. I think this was like 4 weeks in of having the device.. the other scratches I mentioned happened later.. yes, aside from the emeory cloth scratches, the rest you couldnt see when it was powered on, but they are there, and can get worse.
On a side note, my wifes Razr was ran over by a truck with furnature (she was helping her brother move) and not... one... scratch...
I was kinda pissed, but happy at the same time.
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Sorry to hear of your difficulties, but I think your recommendation is too broad. I prefer to avoid the cost and bulk of a case, or the image degradation of a screen protector. I've used my phone extensively for a month, carrying it in my pants pocket or backpack, and the screen has no scratches. And I've never dropped and broken this phone or any other. The desirability of a case or screen protector really depends on what conditions your phone is subjected to.
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I HATE screen protectors, I had the philosophy that you know what, it's my phone, if I want it to show wear, I want to to do it. Not have it perfectly preserved, then sell it in perfect condition at the end of its life. But I have to admit, this "just like glass" is really well done. Unless I am looking for it, I can't tell it is there.
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Too broad? He couldn't have been more specific.
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Their story was very specific, and useful. But their advice was just "Please get a case/screen protector".
Just a matter of time for you my friend.
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Exactly. Suppose a case/screen protector would add 5-10% to the cost of my phone. Then unless I would otherwise break 5-10% of my phones (which I haven't been doing--I've never broken one), the protection will cost me more, in the long run, than doing without it will cost me--even if I eventually do have a mishap. (And that extra cost is in addition to the cases' extra bulk.)
Hence my point: the desirability of a case depends on the conditions that your phone is subjected to. What's good for one person may not be good for everyone.
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Their story was very specific, and useful. But their advice was just "Please get a case/screen protector".
Exactly. Suppose a case/screen protector would add 5-10% to the cost of my phone. Then unless I would otherwise break 5-10% of my phones (which I haven't been doing--I've never broken one), the protection will cost me more, in the long run, than doing without it will cost me--even if I eventually do have a mishap. (And that extra cost is in addition to the cases' extra bulk.)
Hence my point: the desirability of a case depends on the conditions that your phone is subjected to. What's good for one person may not be good for everyone.
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You'll recoup the cost of the screen protector plus some when it comes to resale value.
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You'll recoup the cost of the screen protector plus some when it comes to resale value.
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having a case with a good grip also decreases your chances of accidentally dropping your phone. and also the probability of impressing the ladies.
Had mine for 11 days with a simple belt clip holder. The phone slipped from the holder 3 feet above a tile floor. Small crack in the corner as well. Fortunately I bought the monthly Best Buy insurance and they gave me a new phone for free after waiting 6 days. First time I ever bought monthly insurance and it saved my A$$.
I agree. The only thing i dont like about this phone is the plastic bezel around it. The titanium looks beautiful and its a shame u have to cover it up.
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Gary02468 said:
Their story was very specific, and useful. But their advice was just "Please get a case/screen protector".
Exactly. Suppose a case/screen protector would add 5-10% to the cost of my phone. Then unless I would otherwise break 5-10% of my phones (which I haven't been doing--I've never broken one), the protection will cost me more, in the long run, than doing without it will cost me--even if I eventually do have a mishap. (And that extra cost is in addition to the cases' extra bulk.)
Hence my point: the desirability of a case depends on the conditions that your phone is subjected to. What's good for one person may not be good for everyone.
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That's not a good analogy at all. Unless you sell your phone today or very soon, you're assuming you will never get a scratch, bump, or ding on the phone for the entire duration of you owning it. That's like saying you will never wear a jacket when it's cold because you won't get sick...
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Gary02468 said:
Sorry to hear of your difficulties, but I think your recommendation is too broad. I prefer to avoid the cost and bulk of a case, or the image degradation of a screen protector. I've used my phone extensively for a month, carrying it in my pants pocket or backpack, and the screen has no scratches. And I've never dropped and broken this phone or any other. The desirability of a case or screen protector really depends on what conditions your phone is subjected to.
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The only difference between you and the OP is luck.
Don't fool yourself by thinking you take far better care of your phone than someone who has got scratches.
Don't make the same mistake I made. Get a screen protector.
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Sorry to hear of your difficulties, but I think your recommendation is too broad. I prefer to avoid the cost and bulk of a case, or the image degradation of a screen protector. I've used my phone extensively for a month, carrying it in my pants pocket or backpack, and the screen has no scratches. And I've never dropped and broken this phone or any other. The desirability of a case or screen protector really depends on what conditions your phone is subjected to.
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+1
The other thing to consider is that the cost of a case and screen protector will most likely equal or exceed the cost of replacing the backing and faceplate from ebay. Id rather enjoy the naked phone and replace those pieces once they are scratched up.
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The other thing to consider is that the cost of a case and screen protector will most likely equal or exceed the cost of replacing the backing and faceplate from ebay. Id rather enjoy the naked phone and replace those pieces once they are scratched up.
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Lol...you obviously haven't done your homework.
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Is this to be expected or is this just a crap screen protector? I paid $40 for this thing because I forgot to order one with my phone, it was the only Nexus 5X protector I could find in a 50 mile radius. I put it on properly (bathroom after shower, hinge method), I'm using a case as well. I dropped it about a foot onto the floor today and the corner is smashed, glass shards falling out. Guess what the "lifetime warranty" doesn't cover?
This is the first glass protector I've had so I don't know if this is common for not. Of course they say it's designed to break as it takes the impact force away from the screen. So they're engineered to fail basically? I wouldnt mind as much if it had lasted longer than 6 days, I definitely didn't get my money's worth! I've never broken a screen with the plastic ones I've been using for years so I'm probably not going to use glass again, unless someone can show me a good one
I know a lot of people like the glass screen protectors, but I've had bad luck with them. I had good quality protectors on a DSLR and a phone, and they both "just broke" within a month. The folks who like these things all say, "See, it saved your device's screen!" Well, I don't buy it. Like the OP, I've never had a lick of trouble with screen damage while using a plastic screen protector.
I think it's all just ingenious marketing. They break, and the owner then declares it a good thing (saved my device!) and buys another.
JM2¢
You got ripped off if you paid $40 for a screen protector.
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I broke my Spigen tempered glass screen protector a couple of days ago too. It wasn't related to any impact that I could tell, I just picked up my phone one day and there was a small chip/crack near the center of the screen.
I replaced it with another of the same type, but if it breaks again I'm going back to PET.
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You got ripped off if you paid $40 for a screen protector.
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Ikr, it was either buy one for way too much or not use the phone because I refuse to touch the bare screen with my dirty filthy hands lmao ? I just ordered the spigen crystal plastic 3 pack for 12 on amazon.
Pleson glass screen protector with Cruzerlite case user here. I've dropped my phone with that setup probably a handful of times and have had no problems. Had a different brand glass screen protector and same case for my GS5 for the 1.5 year I had it and no problems with that as well. I've never spent more than $10-$15 on the screen protectors.
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I use a glass screen protector on my 5x, my girlfriend uses one for her iPhone. I've never cracked any of my phones' screens, nor have I cracked my glass screen protector (this is my first device with one). My girlfriend has broken her current iPhone's screen twice. So I made her get a glass screen protector to see if that'd help. Went a month before hers cracked from dropping it. But saved getting the screen replaced! I think they're worth it...
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Using the techmatte screen protector with ringke fusion case, dropped face first many times. No cracks or anything
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If you pay more than $5 for tempered glass, you're gonna have a bad time. They are all literally the exact same thing.
That being said... It alllllll depends on how it hits. OP, sounds like you just had it in a sweet spot.
Worst case anyways, screen assemblies are going for $60 if you know where to source the part. LG phones are super quick and easy to fix.
$40 is too expensive for me,many brands are avaliable and you really don't need pay so much!As far as i know,lifetime warranty dosen't cover"abnomal use",if your protector have halo effects or bubbles during installation etc,sellers will arrange a new one for you without hesitate.
I know op is a bit old by now and it's already been said, but $40 for a tempered glass screen protector was a huge ripoff.
On amazon they are 6-10 max. I've got a few different brands and they are all the same - meaning they are probably just bought by different companies for their own rebranding.
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If you pay more than $5 for tempered glass, you're gonna have a bad time. They are all literally the exact same thing.
That being said... It alllllll depends on how it hits. OP, sounds like you just had it in a sweet spot.
Worst case anyways, screen assemblies are going for $60 if you know where to source the part. LG phones are super quick and easy to fix.
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The biggest difference is some of the cheaper ones lack oleophobic coatings, or have weak ones which wear out very quickly. Also more expensive ones tend to have edges rounded off which is nice for people who don't use a case.
I bought one of their screens for my LGV30+ as its the only one I could find retail that seemed ok. It's terrible, the silicone seal failed after 2 months, screen cracked after 3. They won't honor the lifetime warranty unless I send them 9.99$ on top of the 40$ original price. Hilarious company.
I've had my Note 8 for 9 days now and while I was thinking about buying a screen protector when it arrived, I must admit that I'm quite impressed by the quality of the screen. It just feels so hard to scratch, so much so that one would probably struggle trying to scratch it even on purpose. I don't really see myself scratching it by accident anytime soon, although I must admit I'm this kind of guy who never drops the phone and handles it with extreme care.
I'm just curious to read what you guys think, maybe somebody persuades me to buy a screen protector after all, who knows.
The Gorilla Glass 5 is more shatter-resistant than previous versions and that means it is softer also. I had my Note 7 only a few days before it started picking up micro scratches on the front and back. Your mileage may vary. I'm putting on a Whitestone done and a skin on the back of mine.
I bought a screen protector but am debating putting it on. I may try it and see how it goes
Many of us do fine with no protection. Others report getting scratches no matter how hard they try not to.
I've always put a protector on my previous phones but I'm using my Note 8 without a screen protector. Like you, I'm always very careful with my phone and never drop it. The pocket that I put my phone in only contains my phone; I never put loose change or key in there. My Spigen Slim Armor case protects most of the phone and keeps the screen off the table surface if I do put it face down. With all of the issues people have had with curved tempered glass screen protectors, it just seems like more hassle than it's worth. The only one I'd get is the Whitestone Dome but that costs $60 here. Bit pricey.
I always run a protectors. Better safe then sorry.
I take very good care of my stuff. If a scratch did happen you cant take it back. So there would be no way ti fit it without buying a no front glass or new phone.
With a protector you can simply remove it and put on another one.
Fwiw, 5 days and i have a scratch, no clue where it came from. Have never used screen protectors, but will now
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It's def worth it. On my S8 there was a scratch after few days and I am very careful about my phone so really don't know how it happened.
Same here...it is so minor and you cannot even feel it. Babied it too. Also a small one on the back and it had a case day 1. Something tells me it came like that
Going naked for now. Just watch out for sand, fine sand , seems to be the only thing. If it was a flat screen I would have tempered glass on it.
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ANY sharp instrument will scratch if the point is pressed in to the display, period. It is MUCH easier to bang on it with a long blade edge and look like you did nothing than the tip of an x-acto knife. That is what those demos do. Resisting attack across a large area is really what you are seeing. Keys are small like that etc...
Finally, a big part of Gorilla Glass is that it also HIDES or better put doesnt show minor damage as much as other glass. In other words, its there you just don't see it.
I bet a screen for this will be $300-$400. How much is a protector that looks good?
Better safe than sorry. Once it's scratched it would bug the hell out of me. It's a £1000 device.
Throw a screen protector on it. In time, micro-scratches will appear on your screen if you dont!
Note FE, had it on the ironing board (and forgot about it). Folded the ironing board and it very gently slid down it onto the floor face down....very gently....resulted in a 7mm scratch.
Not got one on this yet but it does highlight how pathetically weak GG5 is.
I put one on from iq shield...works great with my ringke wave
Since its a huge pain to find a glass protector that fits and doesn't screw up touch sensitivity I just grabbed the $8 Skinomi wet install protector, works great including with the edge display and S-Pen.
I believe the micro-scratches are not the actual "glass" screen itself. It's the oleophobic coating that we see scratched.
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I believe the micro-scratches are not the actual "glass" screen itself. It's the oleophobic coating that we see scratched.
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But if it still looks like a scratch....
I personally really don't get the mentality of people who put huges cases and screen protectors on their phones. Most people here are obsessive on having 'the latest' and upgrade yearly when new stuff comes out so they can have the nicest, thinnest, prettiest shiny piece of hardware - Then they go wrap it all up in a thick rubber/plastic case and make it look sh*t. Why buy a device with no bezel if you're gonna put a huge thick case bezel around it!
I've had all my smartphones without cases/screen protectors as that's how they're meant to be and to honest I look after my devices. I usually get 2 year contracts on phones and at the end of 2 years, worst case, a few micro scratches on the screen - That's it. Do these guys bubble wrap their cars? It's a phone, it's designed to be used, it'll get the odd small scratch, just enjoy it for what it is IMO.
I have dropped my Pixel XL and the screen protector cracked but the screen was fine. Same on my Nexus 6. Dropped it on it's face from about 5' and the screen protector cracked all over it but the screen remained crack free. I fell that a glass screen protector takes the abuse of a drop. Granted, I've never dropped a phone with a screen protector so not sure if they would have cracked the screen without a protector but to me, It used to be relatively cheap protection. Some of the better protectors are 40+ now so it's not as easy a decision as it used to be for me.