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are 'HIGH SPEED' SD cards worth the $ for xda1?

does it realy make a difference wich speed of SD cards to use?
i've seen the regular types and the more expensive 10x speed.
but does xda know the difference? or is it set to one speed only?
kind of usb 1.1 and usb 2.0 thing on a pc.?

ntabikha said:
does it realy make a difference wich speed of SD cards to use?
i've seen the regular types and the more expensive 10x speed.
but does xda know the difference? or is it set to one speed only?
kind of usb 1.1 and usb 2.0 thing on a pc.?
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Hmmm..... :?:
That's a good question. One way to find out would be to get one of the 10x speed ones from say CompUSA and find out. If it didn't go any faster than a regular one, than take it back and say there was a bunch of errors or something and wanted to get a regluar one insted of the 10x. They normally won't charge their restock fee if you exchange it for something else.
I have noticed one thing with the USB 1.1/2.0 bit on the XDA1. It does transfer data much faster with USB 2.0 and Belkin USB/Power cable than if it were in the cradle!
Not sure what the difference is really... :shock:
Misterdollymaker

Best OTG?

Can anyone recommend a decent USB OTG that hangs down the side of the nexus 10 rather than sticks out?
Preferably one they've proven to work with an N10.
I appear to have lost my Samsung one I was hoping to use.
Thank you.
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2

I have this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GI2VMG/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Works perfectly with my thumb drives and external hdd. Not only does it work, but the price was unbeatable.
Don't buy one of those $10+ cables as it does the same exact thing as this one.
I might add, you could possibly look into getting one that can charge the device at the same time it's using an external storage device. Unless you're okay with it.
Stickmount works with root on my devices
Nexus Media Importer works without root on my devices
GNex and N10.
Hope this helps!

Confirmed that my OTG cable works.

sunoryjim said:
Confirmed that my OTG cable works.
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Can you still get to the headphone jack with that cable?

Is there any long (length wise) USB OTG Cable?
So I can just keep the flash drive or external drive in my messenger bag and use my phone or tablet LOL.
Also will USB 3.0 work with the devices?

Lumsdoni said:
Can anyone recommend a decent USB OTG that hangs down the side of the nexus 10 rather than sticks out?
Preferably one they've proven to work with an N10.
I appear to have lost my Samsung one I was hoping to use.
Thank you.
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2
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I bought both of these. Both connect with the larger portion of the USB connector towards the screen so they hang down the side of the tablet:
SANOXY Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable - The connector for this one was flipped from the picture and hangs down the side of my N10.
eForCity Micro USB OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter - This one came just like it was pictured.
Both came from Hong Kong which took about 2 weeks in the mail however they cost just around $1.00 each and with free shipping not much to lose.
I use mine with a elago Mobile Nano II USB 2.0 microSDHC Flash Memory Card Reader and a 32GB card (my 64GB is in my S3). With the adapter in the OTG cable it barely hangs out the bottom and makes it very compact.

I have 2 kinds of OTG cables here, both working perfectly fine with my Galaxy Nexus. However on Nexus 10 when I connect a USB device to the OTG (or connect the OTG cable with a USB device already plugged in) the tablet turns off completly and I have to remove the OTG to be able to start it again.

OK -- Sorry to resurrect a glue'd horse, but does anyone have a link for one that ALWAYS ships the correctly sized (read not too long) OTG adapter? I've already ordered two of the OTG adapters through Amazon but they BOTH have too long of a connector and it basically sits loose in any device. Very lame.

bschrib said:
OK -- Sorry to resurrect a glue'd horse, but does anyone have a link for one that ALWAYS ships the correctly sized (read not too long) OTG adapter? I've already ordered two of the OTG adapters through Amazon but they BOTH have too long of a connector and it basically sits loose in any device. Very lame.
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I'm looking for one as well. The cheap ones from eBay are too long. They work but the connection is loose. Do NOT buy the ones linked below.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=300803544652

I bought THIS one from monoprice for $1.43 last week its on its way...ill report back when it arrives. Monoprice stuff is usually pretty good quality, hoping it is nice and secure

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008CQKM2U/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
Has anyone tried this? Says it will work with the Nexus 7 so I'm assuming the 10 as well? Would be nice to have all in one.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

egrims said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008CQKM2U/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
Has anyone tried this? Says it will work with the Nexus 7 so I'm assuming the 10 as well? Would be nice to have all in one.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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Just an FYI I e-mailed Juiced Systems to see if this would work with the Nexus 10. Their response is below:
The adapter should work with 4 out of the 5 functions for the Nexus 10(MHL maybe not). I have yet to test it out personally. This is something we will test soon and will post online. The nexus 10 does have an HDMI mini port built into it already. If MHL doesn't work that is because google did not think it was necessary to make it MHL capable when it has an HDMI mini port. The Nexus 7 is not MHL capable either, not sure why they chose to do that. I will keep you posted once the nexus 10 testing comes back.
Thank you

sunoryjim said:
Confirmed that my OTG cable works.
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confirming this one works, and its a really great fit, nice and tight not like the loose too long one.thanks for the link.

productofusa said:
confirming this one works, and its a really great fit, nice and tight not like the loose too long one.thanks for the link.
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Can you still access the headphone jack with this OTG cable?

Can anyone tell me how an OTG cable can be better than another except of the price/length/design ??
Isn't that micro USB to USB cable just a normal cable connecting 5 pins which are either in a bigger or a smaller plug?
Why should such a cable not work (except of the situation that the cable is damaged)?

xeTaiz said:
Can anyone tell me how an OTG cable can be better than another except of the price/length/design ??
Isn't that micro USB to USB cable just a normal cable connecting 5 pins which are either in a bigger or a smaller plug?
Why should such a cable not work (except of the situation that the cable is damaged)?
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I watched a video on how to make your own, if it was correct, they stated that one pin was unused and when it is connected to chassis ground tells the device to go into OTG mode.

So this OTG cable is not just connecting each pin? It's not just an adapter?
Okay then, good to know, thank you

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Can you still access the headphone jack with this OTG cable?
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If you took a razor knife to the strain relief part it would work, as it is you can stress it out of the way enough to fit a headphone jack but it puts a bit too much pressure on the USB port for my liking try it they're cheap!

i see most are using ones with a cable, is there an issue with ones like these?
http://www.overstock.com/Electronic...l?recSet=4e4a53cb-bea5-4a2e-aec6-88ea05c24288

http://www.ebay.com/itm/90d-right-A...160919848094?ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:SG:3160
I got 2 of this, works pretty well and sits close to the side of the tablet.
Only 2 issues, the connector itself is long so it's a little loose and it will block the earphone jack.

[Q] Micro SD ? DOH!!!

So I played around with these Touchpads, and I really like them. I bought one for $100 which was a good deal. But I was under the impression that they had a MicroSD slot from what my friend said.
So what I plan on doing is taking CR2 Raw files from my Canon SLR and putting them onto a MicroSd and show clients right after I took them with the Touchpad. The whole reason for me going down this road. I have tried looking through this site and really couldnt find anything.
So I found an adapter that will plug into the Microusb plug and I was wondering if there was thing better that you guys would suggest and or is this a good buy?
Juiced Systems 5 in 1 MHL Adapter
Thanks!!

glocke6 said:
So I played around with these Touchpads, and I really like them. I bought one for $100 which was a good deal. But I was under the impression that they had a MicroSD slot from what my friend said.
So what I plan on doing is taking CR2 Raw files from my Canon SLR and putting them onto a MicroSd and show clients right after I took them with the Touchpad. The whole reason for me going down this road. I have tried looking through this site and really couldnt find anything.
So I found an adapter that will plug into the Microusb plug and I was wondering if there was thing better that you guys would suggest and or is this a good buy?
Juiced Systems 5 in 1 MHL Adapter
Thanks!!
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The usb adapter will work if you use a usb y cable and a usb power brick. The touchpads usb port supports usb host but has no power going out

tjsooley said:
The usb adapter will work if you use a usb y cable and a usb power brick. The touchpads usb port supports usb host but has no power going out
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ok so how do i do this with a microsd card ? I dont want to have to sell this and get a different tablet..

glocke6 said:
So I played around with these Touchpads, and I really like them. I bought one for $100 which was a good deal. But I was under the impression that they had a MicroSD slot from what my friend said.
So what I plan on doing is taking CR2 Raw files from my Canon SLR and putting them onto a MicroSd and show clients right after I took them with the Touchpad. The whole reason for me going down this road. I have tried looking through this site and really couldnt find anything.
So I found an adapter that will plug into the Microusb plug and I was wondering if there was thing better that you guys would suggest and or is this a good buy?
Juiced Systems 5 in 1 MHL Adapter
Thanks!!
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the internets (including this forum) are trashy w/ how to otg support..
go to you tube . find something by reverendkjr.. he has a bunch of vids..
good luck

glocke6 said:
ok so how do i do this with a microsd card ? I dont want to have to sell this and get a different tablet..
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um pretty much what he said, the product you are looking at does you no good because there's not another cord stemming off of it in which you could plug into a power supply.
picture attached gives you a ****ty visualization, however i don't know where to find the product you're looking for lol

i bought a solar self powered 4 port hub and an otg cable.. that is your power source for the hptp micro port.. i paid less than 12$ for complete set up..
read this.. i used hub that has all ports inline instead of the OP's suggested hub.. Y cables are messy..
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-to...ter-touchpad-connect-thumb-drive-kbd-etc.html
there have been major updates concerning the mount/unmount ing..
chainfire put out an app.. one solution of many

Read this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582771
For your setup you'd need an OTG cable with a way to supply power. Something like this should work if you have a USB power source, like your charger or one of those battery powered USB chargers. Then you'll need any USB microSD reader. The card will show up under "/mnt/usbdisk".

spunker88 said:
Read this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582771
For your setup you'd need an OTG cable with a way to supply power. Something like this should work if you have a USB power source, like your charger or one of those battery powered USB chargers. Then you'll need any USB microSD reader. The card will show up under "/mnt/usbdisk".
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I have to be mobile for this is there any simple way to do this?

did you read about the self powered hub i linked to ?
if you want simpler, you would have to break into the internals and mod the hardware

Multi-functional 4 in 1 Connection Kit

Has anyone tried this accessory with the GN2? Looks pretty useful, just want to make sure it works without rooting.
amazon . com/Samsung-S2-Multi-functional-Connection-Kit/dp/B006MJZOMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1353387405&sr=1-2&keywords=Micro+USB+OTG

I have one and it works great. I've only used it for transferring in photos from my digicam and some files from a few thumbdrives, but it's worked perfectly thus far.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app

benchi86 said:
Has anyone tried this accessory with the GN2? Looks pretty useful, just want to make sure it works without rooting.
amazon.com/Samsung-S2-Multi-functional-Connection-Kit/dp/B006MJZOMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1353387405&sr=1-2&keywords=Micro+USB+OTG
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I have one. No need to root as stock OTG support is fine, but will not read NTFS.
There are a couple issues I have with it used with Note2:
- it will not act as a dock... it will not charge your phone while it powers memory or USB devices.
- it cannot be used with a case, unless you also buy an extension cable... M/F micro USB
- mine feels a little weak, like it might break off in the micro USB port & is intermittent if moved.
It's easier & cheaper to use a OTG cable unless you need to power USB devices... then you could add a hub. If you use a smart dock, you get charging, 3x USB, audio, HDMI.
For the cost, it would have been nice to have it charge as stated for S2.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app

Thanks for the very helpful info!

benchi86 said:
Has anyone tried this accessory with the GN2? Looks pretty useful, just want to make sure it works without rooting.
amazon . com/Samsung-S2-Multi-functional-Connection-Kit/dp/B006MJZOMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1353387405&sr=1-2&keywords=Micro+USB+OTG
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Bought it for use with my Galaxy Note and now use it for my Galaxy Note 2.
Works great (yeah, not with a case on unless you have an extension cable), have used it with SD cards, Keyboard, mouse (yup, puts a mouse pointer on your screen!), external hard drive (but you have to plug in power (usb or wall charger) for that), I have even plugged in my Creative USB headphones and they work great! Awesome device.
If I was to make it, I would put a little sturdier plug on it (see other post for "flimsy feel") and make it so it had a VERY short plug (like a 1/4 inch longer) so it could be used without popping the bottom out of my TPU case).
If someone has a link to a SHORT m-f micro usb extender, SHARE please !!
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rrackman said:
Bought it for use with my Galaxy Note and now use it for my Galaxy Note 2.
Works great (yeah, not with a case on unless you have an extension cable), have used it with SD cards, Keyboard, mouse (yup, puts a mouse pointer on your screen!), external hard drive (but you have to plug in power (usb or wall charger) for that), I have even plugged in my Creative USB headphones and they work great! Awesome device.
If I was to make it, I would put a little sturdier plug on it (see other post for "flimsy feel") and make it so it had a VERY short plug (like a 1/4 inch longer) so it could be used without popping the bottom out of my TPU case).
If someone has a link to a SHORT m-f micro usb extender, SHARE please !!
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http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-Systems-MHL-Adapter-MicroSDHC/dp/B008CQKM2U/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC
HDMI added, and the short extender you want.

Did anyone tried the version with the hdmi?If it works,it could be a good alternative to official smart dock (100$)

It seems that it doesn't charge the note, as per the reviews, when the usb host is used.
I want something that charges it, to use it in the car, sending video to my headrest screens FROM a USB thumb drive. So I'd need USB+HDMI out, plus charging. That would be great to have. But only playing videos from USB drive WHILE CHARGING it would be enough for me. Although there are dongles for the Note 2 that would allow HDMI+Charging, there is nothing AT ALL in the market that would allow USB HOST+Charging capabities. Not an Android phone, not a tablet (other than Toshiba/Acer with USB ports on the side).

johnko1 said:
Did anyone tried the version with the hdmi?If it works,it could be a good alternative to official smart dock (100$)
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I think MHL will not work because the 11 pin vs 5 pin connector we have like the Galaxy S3
Found this comment on amazon:
This thing is magic! All of these different ports in one simple accessory is brilliant! They don't claim that MHL on this unit works with the Samsung Galaxy S3 and sure enough MHL does not. Everything else does though. Having all of these ports on one small accessory makes the most of any compatible smart phone.
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But if you also use a Micro USB 5 Pin To 11 Pin (4$ from ebay) I guess it would work

SyCoQC said:
But if you also use a Micro USB 5 Pin To 11 Pin (4$ from ebay) I guess it would work
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Yes, I'd think so. Still curious about using the USB host while charging.
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RipplingHurst said:
Yes, I'd think so. Still curious about using the USB host while charging.
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Maybe not, from the Amazon reviews:
cannot charge and use usb device at the same time.
plug in charger and usb device is disabled.
fails on nexus 7 and galaxy note.
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Chances that it would work on the Note 2 are slim I fear.

Anyway I will probably get the older version with the card reader and usb port,it is more portable!
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-S2-Mu...qid=1354305907&sr=1-2&keywords=Juiced+Systems
and when the official smart dock will get cheaper,I will buy it for sure

USB 3.0 - Why they pulled it? List of reasons...

Possible reasons:
1. Samsung figured that MOST people don't take advantage of the USB 3.0 transfer speeds.
2. It requires extra hardware = needing to stuff more stuff into the phone.
3. Higher production cost.
4. Some rumor that the USB 3.0 caused charging issues? (Complete joke, because it worked perfect for me.)
Please add on to the list if you have more info...
Personally I wish they had kept the USB 3.0 as I'm one of those who actually took advantage of it. At least they somewhat off set it with the 50% charge in 30 minutes.
Is it just me or does the USB 3.0 just add that extra premium feel? Thicker cable, faster transfer speeds...just more beefy looking with the performance to back it up.

I despise connecting a phone to pc. with cords and usb connecting, Entire process seems tedious and sloppy. On the rare occasions i do connect, i usually try to capitalize on opportunity to get a quick charge in the process.

Maybe they just had a space issue on the board.

Whatever the reason I thoroughly dislike having to buy new usb cables, and otg cables for my travel dac and usb drives.
And the data transfer speed will suffer, when transferring ROMs downloaded on a PC first.

I think so too.
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Maybe they just had a space issue on the board.
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I would lean towards cost savings, since Note 4 is actually little bit bigger than Note3 and it's not like they made it waterproof or something, to fill up the extra space (Galaxy S5 has USB3 BTW). I'm disappointed, even if I was never going to use it, cutting features on the flagship device is not the way I would like Samsung to go, what else are they going to cut in the next model? This supposed to be top of the line model filled with newest tech, if they keep on doing it I may as well buy some cheap chinese knock off, it will also have all the basic features, most people use. Actually I was hoping they'll actually fix that USB 3, so it's auto detecting not getting rid of it, very disappointed, almost as much as the phone not being waterproof.

I can see your point, because as an USB 3.0 user, not being able to transfer Gigs at a time in a few seconds is going to be greatly missed. In theory I think they could have just kept it without sacrificing anything else really. Heck, it's already proven to be true for the Note 3. So that's out of the question.
I'm not worried about Samsung cutting things in the future. They may learn from this misfit and hopefully our slaps will reach them to where they won't do something like this again LOL.
All in all... I am 90% satisfied with the Note 4. The USB 3.0 really weight 10% for me because I use it on a daily basis.
pete4k said:
I would lean towards cost savings, since Note 4 is actually little bit bigger than Note3 and it's not like they made it waterproof or something, to fill up the extra space (Galaxy S5 has USB3 BTW). I'm disappointed, even if I was never going to use it, cutting features on the flagship device is not the way I would like Samsung to go, what else are they going to cut in the next model? This supposed to be top of the line model filled with newest tech, if they keep on doing it I may as well buy some cheap chinese knock off, it will also have all the basic features, most people use. Actually I was hoping they'll actually fix that USB 3, so it's auto detecting not getting rid of it, very disappointed, almost as much as the phone not being waterproof.
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Serious question here. I have an S5 and when I copy files with the USB 3 cable to my computer with a USB 3 port, I see no noticible difference between it and USB 2. Does anyone actually notice anything?

I would expect the note 5 to be back to usb 3 (3.1 actually) and use usb type c
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2686...-deliver-displayport-audio-and-video-too.html
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re: usb 3.0
aooga said:
Serious question here. I have an S5 and when I copy files with the USB 3 cable to my computer with a USB 3 port, I see no noticible difference between it and USB 2. Does anyone actually notice anything?
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You are right!
There is no difference at all, I tested it using a stop watch with a file of
two gigabytes and had the same results in speed with usb 2.0 or 3.0.
Also I really dislike the extra wide 3.0 connector which usb 3.0 requires.

aooga said:
Serious question here. I have an S5 and when I copy files with the USB 3 cable to my computer with a USB 3 port, I see no noticible difference between it and USB 2. Does anyone actually notice anything?
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I'm not sure if they fix it in GS5, but on Note 3 USB3 wasn't autodetecting, you had to go to settings and manually switch to USB 3 mode, really stupid way, since some tablets had it autodetecting a while ago and most people won't even know about it. Of course I'm assuming you're using USB3 port on your computer. Also how fast is your SD card? Phone memory is fastest. Charging from computer port is faster on USB3 also, I tested it long time ago I think it was almost twice as fast.

Thanks for clearing this up. I almost fell to the floor laughing of the thought of some thinking that USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 are of the same LOL.
Although a little cumbersome, all you have to do is flip the switch. Easy. Done deal.
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I'm not sure if they fix it in GS5, but on Note 3 USB3 wasn't autodetecting, you had to go to settings and manually switch to USB 3 mode, really stupid way, since some tablets had it autodetecting a while ago and most people won't even know about it. Of course I'm assuming you're using USB3 port on your computer. Also how fast is your SD card? Phone memory is fastest. Charging from computer port is faster on USB3 also, I tested it long time ago I think it was almost twice as fast.
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pete4k said:
I'm not sure if they fix it in GS5, but on Note 3 USB3 wasn't autodetecting, you had to go to settings and manually switch to USB 3 mode, really stupid way, since some tablets had it autodetecting a while ago and most people won't even know about it. Of course I'm assuming you're using USB3 port on your computer. Also how fast is your SD card? Phone memory is fastest. Charging from computer port is faster on USB3 also, I tested it long time ago I think it was almost twice as fast.
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Nope...no setting. And I don't use SD cards.

If they could implement it properly then I'd want it more but it was a half-ass implementation on the previous phones so I don't really miss it.

I don't care why they did it I'm just pissed that I got a bunch of cables I can't use now. When I switch devices my whole family switches to that device so now I have tons of USB 3 cables around the house and now we can't use them. At the very least I hope they will release the wireless charging back for us that have been taking advantage of it.

Im guessing the exclusion of USB3 had something to do with the fast charge system. Maybe heat, price who knows. The Note 4 has the option to use 9V at 1.6amps

re: samsung usb 3.0 cables
xcom923 said:
I don't care why they did it I'm just pissed that I got a bunch of cables I can't use now. When I switch devices my whole family switches to that device so now I have tons of USB 3 cables around the house and now we can't use them. At the very least I hope they will release the wireless charging back for us that have been taking advantage of it.
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Don't worry about the usb 3 0 cables, they are not proprietary and they are and
will be perfectly usable with any of the external usb 3.0 portable hard drives.

No worries. Just save them for the Note 5 and beyond. :good:
xcom923 said:
I don't care why they did it I'm just pissed that I got a bunch of cables I can't use now. When I switch devices my whole family switches to that device so now I have tons of USB 3 cables around the house and now we can't use them. At the very least I hope they will release the wireless charging back for us that have been taking advantage of it.
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You know, you're right. This is in theory the best reason in my books. Maybe the fast charge system took the place of the USB 3.0 hardware. Only one or the other type of thing. But can we have both the icing and the cake? Maybe next time...
In reality though, although I am a heavy USB 3.0 user, most people would take the fast charge over the USB 3.0 any day. I know I know....it is what it is until we can get both.
YellowGTO said:
Im guessing the exclusion of USB3 had something to do with the fast charge system. Maybe heat, price who knows. The Note 4 has the option to use 9V at 1.6amps
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+1, it's not like you will never have use for them again. It's highly likely you will get back to using them again in about 10 months? We'll see...
Misterjunky said:
Don't worry about the usb 3 0 cables, they are not proprietary and they are and
will be perfectly usable with any of the external usb 3.0 portable hard drives.
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