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Big difference: With and without backcover!

Hey people, look at these 2 pictures, that I just have taken:
With the backcover on:
http://www.4shared.com/file/53179104/2a29789d/Med_cover.html
And without:
http://www.4shared.com/file/53179169/2c2a3a6/Uden_cover.html
As you can see, there is a big difference. Hmm, why haven't HTC done something to this problem?

Are you sure you were at the same distance?
And what about the focus point? It seems a bit different between the 2 pics.....

flaviopac said:
Are you sure you were at the same distance?
And what about the focus point? It seems a bit different between the 2 pics.....
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Yes I'm very sure about that. I have tried with more pictures.

did you stick a 'lense protector' on the cover's lense screen? like if you stuck on a full body protector like invisibleSHIELD there'll be a piece for the lense cover too.
Or, did you forget to peel off the original one?

happyguy82 said:
did you stick a 'lense protector' on the cover's lense screen? like if you stuck on a full body protector like invisibleSHIELD there'll be a piece for the lense cover too.
Or, did you forget to peel off the original one?
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Haha, no i'm not that stupid Nothing "protection" is on.

the "lens" that is part of the back cover is obviously not optically neutral. Pretty lame if you ask me.

Syphon Filter said:
the "lens" that is part of the back cover is obviously not optically neutral. Pretty lame if you ask me.
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Without the back cover, the Diamond takes decent pictures, still slow on focusing and shutter release(you should see the Samsung F480, this little fellow shoots pictures almost like a normal digital cam) but pretty good for a 3.2 MP cam.
WITH back cover however, the pictures look like crap to me. Sometimes it looks like if the pictures have been taken through light fog and I can clean the lens cover as much as I want(not easy, tiny little bastard), after some time, the lens gets dirty/whatever again. Horrible, HTC definetely needs to find a better solution.

Here some more http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1365731&page=43&pp=15
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remove the small mirorr in a back cover that protect the camera from dust

Aqrab said:
remove the small mirorr in a back cover that protect the camera from dust
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It will "destroy" the backcover? hmm. And when the mirror is gone, dust can easier come into the camera lens?

mooooooa said:
It will "destroy" the backcover? hmm. And when the mirror is gone, dust can easier come into the camera lens?
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look i didnt try it but i think if we remove it the camera quality will increase
the htc p3600 and the touch dual doesnt have mirror for camera

Aqrab said:
look i didnt try it but i think if we remove it the camera quality will increase
the htc p3600 and the touch dual doesnt have mirror for camera
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Yes, of course the quality will increase, when a cheap plastic cover is removed But hmm, my Diamond is 2 days old, and I don't want to already destroy a part of the cover

mooooooa said:
Yes, of course the quality will increase, when a cheap plastic cover is removed But hmm, my Diamond is 2 days old, and I don't want to already destroy a part of the cover
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the problem is man that
when we want to clean the mirror we cant clean it good from the outside
we need to clean it to get better quality

Aqrab said:
the problem is man that
when we want to clean the mirror we cant clean it good from the outside
we need to clean it to get better quality
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But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?

mooooooa said:
But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?
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well ideally you should or you should remember not to put you fingers on the lens (not an easy task given the camera position i know) but lets be fair here, i mean its not as if you would take your stand alone digital camera, smear you greasy hands over the lens all day (+ let dust collect on it) and then expect it to take perfect pics...
be practical, if you remove the case screen for long you are gonna end up with scratches on the actual camera lens! and that's not easily replaceable now is it (not like the back cover...) lol

mooooooa said:
But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?
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yah i know
im jast saying when we want to clean it
remember not to put your fingers on the lens

What we need is a back cover with a piece of glass in place of the piece of plastic which covers the lense.
This seems like the only solution to me.
Its because the plastic isnt very durable, it does mist up the photos. If you look on coolsmartphone.com ive also took some pictures and they looked alot better without the back plastic cover on.
I just hope someone somewhere is reading this as i would pay for a back cover with glass instead of plastic lense cover.
The pictures are alot sharper and arent misty without the cover on.

tomchap said:
What we need is a back cover with a piece of glass in place of the piece of plastic which covers the lense.
This seems like the only solution to me.
Its because the plastic isnt very durable, it does mist up the photos. If you look on coolsmartphone.com ive also took some pictures and they looked alot better without the back plastic cover on.
I just hope someone somewhere is reading this as i would pay for a back cover with glass instead of plastic lense cover.
The pictures are alot sharper and arent misty without the cover on.
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Your right!

white balance
Granted the backcover lens protector doesn't do justice to this phone. Adjusting the white balance does for improvement (say the lighhtbulb mode) I find. Again the camera does let this phone down, compared to others of similar spec. Can a software tweak solve the lag in motion when shooting in video mode at all? Is it as a 'simple' case as that I wonder!?

I just did some test shots with my xda diamond from germany and I honestly cant see a difference. can you tell which one is taken with the cover off?

Dust in front facing camera

Hey guys, I'm having a massive problem with dust in my front facing camera. It renders it practically unusable, everything looks white when I switch to the front facing camera.
Any ideas on how to remove the dust? I don't even have any idea how it got in. Best bet is through the ear piece I guess.
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not sure if it will help you
but for most of my high end cameras i use a Giottos Rocket blower to get rid of the dust in most parts

Thing is, is behind a glass piece sigh
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arghh! this seems very problematic since unless you dismantle the Note, it will be nearly impossible to wipe the dust. Didn't you use a protective cover and screen protection from the beginning or the dust was present the 1st day you got the Note?

Final5k said:
arghh! this seems very problematic since unless you dismantle the Note, it will be nearly impossible to wipe the dust. Didn't you use a protective cover and screen protection from the beginning or the dust was present the 1st day you got the Note?
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Thats the thing. I dont remember if it was present the day I bought it. Yeah I did use a protective cover. You guys don't have a problem with dust in the front camera?

Maybe it's a fault? Can you physically see the dust on the glass in front of the camera? Mine looks clear like this image:
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/108271-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-LTE-Review-Design-16.jpg
You probably can take it to warranty Samsung service and say it never worked.
I don't use a protective cover and have had no dust issues. I've noticed some dirt/dust getting into the back cover area which i just blow out occasionally. Maybe if you clean/blow out those areas and ports it might dislodge any debris?

rowee270 said:
Maybe it's a fault? Can you physically see the dust on the glass in front of the camera? Mine looks clear like this image:
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/108271-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-LTE-Review-Design-16.jpg
You probably can take it to warranty Samsung service and say it never worked.
I don't use a protective cover and have had no dust issues. I've noticed some dirt/dust getting into the back cover area which i just blow out occasionally. Maybe if you clean/blow out those areas and ports it might dislodge any debris?
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Yes, I can physically see the dust. The front facing camera is greyed over. Sighh

Well if you're feeling adventurous, you can dissemble the Note yourself and clean it. There are a few tutorials on youtube under "disasemble galaxy note" such as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFDr3PQMTxw
It doesn't seem that hard and you don't need any special equipment.

This definitely sounds like a clear cut warranty claim case.
Nothing is supposed to be able to enter that little space in front of the camera if the phone has not broken or been broken since day one. Thats my point of view anyway.

rowee270 said:
Well if you're feeling adventurous, you can dissemble the Note yourself and clean it. There are a few tutorials on youtube under "disasemble galaxy note" such as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFDr3PQMTxw
It doesn't seem that hard and you don't need any special equipment.
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I followed the video and dissembled the phone. Luckily it all went well and I was able to remove all the dust. The front camera is working perfect now. Thankss!

Julian2103 said:
I followed the video and dissembled the phone. Luckily it all went well and I was able to remove all the dust. The front camera is working perfect now. Thankss!
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Awesome

Just a generall concern...shouldn't the warrenty cover a scenario like this?

Julian2103 said:
I followed the video and dissembled the phone. Luckily it all went well and I was able to remove all the dust. The front camera is working perfect now. Thankss!
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I had same problem, and also eventually dissasembld to clean. I did otice (prior to dissassembly) that the glass screen was slightly loose against the chrome bezel at along the top edge (i.e. where the earpiece & front cam are located). pressing on that edge (particularly at the RHS near the cam) there was some "give" - i.e. you could push the glass and it would depress into the bezel by 1mm-2mm and then spring back up.
I suspect that is why dust has ben able to enter. Unfortunately, after cleaning and reassembly, the same "give" is still there. I'd hoped that it was just a badly assembled unit and that it would now be properly sealed, but no joy.
did/does your phone have a similar issue by any chance?
Also, I did the cleanout yesterday, same day as I upgraded to ICS (UK CPW XXLQ2 baseband XXLPT). I'm now noticing terrible wifi/cell radio performance (lost 25% battery in 45 mins just browsing with min screen brightness, lots of wifi dropouts, loads of heat dissipating to rear of case). This in same place (my bed!) as I always surf same sites every morning and where on Gingerbread I'd have no dropouts and my battery drain would be minimal (<5%).
Again, I'm wondering whether ICS is to blame or whether I've somehow messed up during reassembly (maybe poorly reconnected one or more of the ribbon connectors leading to the radio chip?). Have you noticed any difference in Wifi/cellular reception since reassembly?

Battery drain and wifi performance continued to be terrible, so I took it apart again and reassembled once more, this time with greaer care. I think I had done a bad job 1st time round as it's now got much better wifi signal, back to how it was originally.
Battery drain is slightly better too but still much worse than on GB but I think that is just a defect of the stock ICS, just coincience that I did the ICS install same day that Itook the note apart.

Did anyone try to blow out the dust and did that work?
I'm not to keen to pick the phone apart for it.

[Q] Camera lens scratches

Hello, so yesterday i noticed some scratches on the camera lens and i can feel them with fingernails.So i googled about scratches on lens and almost everywhere they said it does not affect pictures that much but when i try to take pics with my SP they turn out to be fuzzy/blurry.Im afraid the warranty doesnt cover it too
Any advice what should i do?
Sorry for my english and if this thread is in the wrong section feel free to move it

after 2 months the camera lens looks terrible. im not using protective case but it is in pocket on its own no keys or lighter next to it. somehow the camera LENS got nice scratches. there is a purple color shine on the lens like on eyeglasses which supposed to be scratch resistant layer but it has gone completely. since the lens is not covered physically i have to clean the fine dust off the lens to take photo. what i see the on closer look is that the scratches are drawing circles that makes me think the lens is so soft material that the cleaning causing the scratches. i guess its plastic. i havent checked it yet but after replacing it ill do a test. i ve found on sony support forum a link where u can buy replacement lens which is by description 100% glass.
interesting that the screen itself is very durable but this tiny round lens is a crap. disappointing from sony. very stupid mistake of chosing this material for such a nice phone. i am thinkin to call them and make a complaint. :crying:

Yup, mine is scratched too, every photo looks like Joan Collins c1986.
I believe it's just stuck on so should be easy to replace.
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faulty assembly?
My mate said that purple layer is a kinda filter (flare,uv or whatever) supposed to face to camera. Is that possible?

r1kkHUN said:
a link where u can buy replacement lens which is by description 100% glass.
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Can you share the link? I might be looking to replace my lens if it's not too hard
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ZakooZ said:
Can you share the link? I might be looking to replace my lens if it's not too hard
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unfortunately I cant post link yet.
Stellatech dot com

Here are the links :
http://stellatech.com/sony-c5303-xperia-sp-camera-lens,a,en,814897.html
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-sp-c530x-camera-lens.html
or on ebay.
I have the same problem, and I just bought one.
Here's a question for people who have changed it : do you have to unscrew the back of the phone (not just the back cover) or can you change it directly ?
From what I've seen, the lens and the "camera ring" might be "glued" directly, but might as well have to come off from the inside.
Another thing, there's one screw that's not directly visible, it's under the antenna, at the bottom of the phone...
Some help would be really appreciated !
Thx

I managed to get the ring off with just my finger nails, the ring and lens are two separate pieces, when the ring is off, the glass sits in a recess, so may be a bit tricky to remove.
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Is there any purple coating on the replacement lens? If no than its just a plain glass and not like the original. I will just polish off the coating. On photo there is sharp area just as the clean area of the lens.

Thanks for the tip @technaudio.
@r1kkHUN : I'll tell you when I get it, but since it's an original part, I guess it'll be there, i'd make no sense otherwise.
Good luck with the polishing, I'm affraid I doubt it'll solve the problem though.

T cut or some fine rubbing compound that you polish a car with might work?
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Hi.
Just got the new lens, and changed it.
Easy and fast, and the result is perfect, and for only 11€
There isn't any purple coating on the new one I got, but it seems to be okay, I'll try to take pictures in the sun as soon as the weather gets better.
I did a little guide about it on a french forum, if you want to have a look at the pictures.
http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/168392-tuto-changer-la-lentille-de-lapn-arrière/
Bye and thanks again.

[I9001] stains on photos

Last few weeks I've noticed some stains on any pictures taken with my phone's (rear-facing) camera. They have been getting progressively worse as well... I think there's dirt somewhere but after taking the phone (partially) apart and cleaning the inside & outside of the back cover in plus the outside of the camera module nothing has changed.
Any opinions? Should I get a new camera module or can I somehow clean this one? Did I do something wrong with my phone or is this normal?
Attached is a picture of a clean white surface, which does not look very clean on the picture!
Thank you for any information!
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Marshian said:
Any opinions?
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It looks like there is some dirt on the sensor, or between sensor and the lens. Let it be cleaned in Samsung service.

Slightly blurry pictures

Everytime I try to take a picture lately my pictures always seem a bit blurry or soft and when I hold it up to the light I see tons of little scratches. I remember hearing something about a lens scratch problem but that has a simple fix. Any ideas?
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There are a few fixes out there. I used a dab of toothpaste on the lens, then used a Q-tip in a clockwise motion with light pressure. You can use a soft rag once you're done to wipe the lens and any excess toothpaste off.

^^^

Magnum_Enforcer said:
There are a few fixes out there. I used a dab of toothpaste on the lens, then used a Q-tip in a clockwise motion with light pressure. You can use a soft rag once you're done to wipe the lens and any excess toothpaste off.
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Helped a bit I think, it still seems like it has some sort of soft or overly light focus that's only happened recently though

You may need to go over it several times to get it clear. If that doesn't resolve your issue, you may have a hardware issue. Are you having problems with blurry pics using third party apps, or with the camera app itself?

Magnum_Enforcer said:
You may need to go over it several times to get it clear. If that doesn't resolve your issue, you may have a hardware issue. Are you having problems with blurry pics using third party apps, or with the camera app itself?
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Are the scratches gone?

-Apollo- said:
Are the scratches gone?
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I still have some scratches around the outside edge of the lens, but the portion where the camera is is clear.

Magnum_Enforcer said:
I still have some scratches around the outside edge of the lens, but the portion where the camera is is clear.
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I'm sorry man, I know your good to go, I meant to ask the OP. Sorry for confusion!

-Apollo- said:
I'm sorry man, I know your good to go, I meant to ask the OP. Sorry for confusion!
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No worries!

Sorry about that I can't reply directly to you from this other XDA app in using. It had definitely gotten better: earlier today I was in class and I decided to use my eraser around the lens just to see if it would help and it's much improved, so I'm going to do more of the toothpaste tonight to see if I can completely fix it.
Thanks to you guys for all the help!
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Are the scratches gone?
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Yup they're about gone now! I practiced with it a bit and it's all nice and clean now. Would it stay that way? I've never had this problem with any other phone I've had and I've gone from the HTC EVO 4G and HTC EVO LTE and not once had that weird blurry/soft problem

LemonNinja said:
Yup they're about gone now! I practiced with it a bit and it's all nice and clean now. Would it stay that way? I've never had this problem with any other phone I've had and I've gone from the HTC EVO 4G and HTC EVO LTE and not once had that weird blurry/soft problem
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Aside from grease on your lens from your fingers, the lens will stay clear. The toothpaste (or whatever agent you used) removes the protective film from the lens.
They'll be ok, so don't be scared about that.