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[Q] desktop dock which do not require the removal of cases

Hi all,
I have a desktop cradle which i use in the office and the otterbox commuter case which i use daily.
i have gotten my desktop dock from here.
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380267286428&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
i am satisfied with the dock but i am finding it annoying to have to remove my otterbox case everytime i want to charge/sync.
is there a dock/cradle out there which can do the same without the need to remove the case?
I am aware of Desk Genie non slip charging desk stand but i read somewhere that it does not sync. (can anyone confirm this?)
any other recommendations are greatly welcomed.

has any one tried this
http://www.netimes.com/shop/angne-d...tc-hd2-t8585-htc-leo-p-2533.html?cPath=80_731
or this
http://www.netimes.com/shop/non-sli...p-2384.html?cPath=445_720&number_of_uploads=0
any feedback or help would be appreciated

The desk genie for me was a bit of wasted purchase:
The phone just slips off it. I think the reason is that the shiny battery-cover just won't grip, as heavier items, such as a digital camera/old WM phone stick to it like a charm. I put sticky brown tape all over the back of my phnoe and it was slightly better, but on the whole I'd say it's a don't-buy.
re: Syncing, it's a bit stupid. You plug a mini-usb into the back of the unit, and then a small power-lead with a micro attachment also comes out of the back as a charge = no syncing. As the device does have a USB hub, you can run another cable from a USB port to the phone, but overall it's a bit messy. One of those tiny mini-USB cables would do it (the 6cm long ones), but overall you still end up with a cable sticking out the side.

Thanks for replying...
i was almost gonna one of these...
which is a cheaper alternative to the desk genie...
have you tried it with case on??
as that is my concern as i do not wanna remove my cases all the time i wanna use a dock
smeddy said:
The desk genie for me was a bit of wasted purchase:
The phone just slips off it. I think the reason is that the shiny battery-cover just won't grip, as heavier items, such as a digital camera/old WM phone stick to it like a charm. I put sticky brown tape all over the back of my phnoe and it was slightly better, but on the whole I'd say it's a don't-buy.
re: Syncing, it's a bit stupid. You plug a mini-usb into the back of the unit, and then a small power-lead with a micro attachment also comes out of the back as a charge = no syncing. As the device does have a USB hub, you can run another cable from a USB port to the phone, but overall it's a bit messy. One of those tiny mini-USB cables would do it (the 6cm long ones), but overall you still end up with a cable sticking out the side.
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I don't blame the Genie, I blame it on the HD2's too-friction-less back. Heavier, bulkier items (such as your typical Panasonic digicam) stuck to it like a charm (I note I already said that, but hey, worth repeating). I do not have other covers to hand to test it, but I do keep my phone in a fake-leather walleet (off eBay, love it), and the phone - despite being a lot heaver due to the wallet - does stick to the Genie, so I do reckon other covers will stick quite well.
If I can test others i will report back.

smeddy said:
The desk genie for me was a bit of wasted purchase:
The phone just slips off it. I think the reason is that the shiny battery-cover just won't grip, as heavier items, such as a digital camera/old WM phone stick to it like a charm. I put sticky brown tape all over the back of my phnoe and it was slightly better, but on the whole I'd say it's a don't-buy.
re: Syncing, it's a bit stupid. You plug a mini-usb into the back of the unit, and then a small power-lead with a micro attachment also comes out of the back as a charge = no syncing. As the device does have a USB hub, you can run another cable from a USB port to the phone, but overall it's a bit messy. One of those tiny mini-USB cables would do it (the 6cm long ones), but overall you still end up with a cable sticking out the side.
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I don't agree. Its a fact that it wont grip especially when one uses a silicon case. But I've placed 2 pins just beneath the rubber so it will always hold the phone. I am using it now for some time.

ymtan said:
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http://www.netimes.com/shop/non-sli...p-2384.html?cPath=445_720&number_of_uploads=0
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I have it and works nice
- without case
- with leather (flip) case
- with solicon case (soft)
- with hard plastic case

ciubeca said:
I have it and works nice
- without case
- with leather (flip) case
- with solicon case (soft)
- with hard plastic case
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Thanks for your info.
will probably get this to try seeing it is not as expensive as desk genie

sorry to bump an old thread, does anyone have any suggestions for the original post?
thanks

[HARDWARE] Dinc Seamless Wireless Charger stock battery (NO USB STICKING OUT)

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***If this does not belong here I appologize, and feel free to move this if necessary. I just figured the development community is most likely to take this "upgrade" on***
After seeing that someone used Palm's wireless charger on their non-palm phone; I decided to put one on my Droid Incredible.
***This was done to a completely stock Dinc. I did not use any special back, and the stock back gets to stay on (unlike in the other video that I saw)
Wireless Charging the Droid Incredible
**Disclaimer: This will void your warranty, and if you solder something wrong will probably break your phone. With that said I can in no way be held accountable for anything that occurs while performing this “upgrade” to your phone.
>>>>If anyone knows where I can buy that little void sticker that you will see in a picture below, please let me know! If we can get that sticker then our warranty is not voided by doing this.
Supplies:
1.Palm touchstone charger http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/handheld/categories/palm/4/accessories/FB300AA%23AC3
2.Palm touchstone phone back http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/product/product_detail/FB306AA%23AC3?
3.Micro USB cable
4.Soldering Iron (the finer the tip on this the better)
5.Torx T6 screw driver
6.Safe pry tool (or a small flat head screwdriver)
7.Very tiny insulated wires (I just pulled mine out of a USB cable that I cut up)
8.Electrical Tape
9.[Optional] Multimeter to test that you actually made a good connection
How To (Images are of a higher quality (12mp) so I had to stick them in zip files to get them on here):
1.The palm touchstone phone back has a sticker inside of it that encases the wireless charging receiver, so you need to peel this off. Once it is peeled off it will look like this (without the wires soldered onto it):
(Images can be seen in: Palm Receiver.7z)
2.Remove the battery cover and the battery then unscrew the back from your phone (please view a tare down video for details, there are plenty of them on you tube that I used for a reference.)
1.All you need is a torx t6 screwdriver and a safe pry tool, I used a small flat head screwdriver and it worked just fine. Unscrew the 4 screws around the sides and then carefully pry off every place that the battery cover clips on, as they also hold on the red back.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc Inside.7z)
3.Solder on some wires to the USB connector as shown in the below image without soldering onto the pins next to them. This is difficult and takes some time and patience, since these connectors are very small and close (note the polarity in the image, notated in red).
A.Also it is necessary to place a piece of electrical tape over the components right next to the connector (Green box in the image) as they will short out the power and make it impossible to charge your phone if you do not (I found that out the hard way and went back and fixed it).
B.One final note here is that I had to melt down the red phone backing inside to allow the cables to get past the case. See the green rectangle in the image above for where I had to do that. I just used my soldering iron and melted it down, it makes a pretty nice indention for the wires to fit through.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc USB.7z)
4.Now push out the rubber plug in the red phone backing next to the USB cover (this is encircled in Green in the image from step 2).
A.Run the cables that you just solder on through that so that they are sticking through to the battery compartment on your phone.
B.You can also stick on the palm receiver to the inside of your phone cover (note the direction and placement, as this is necessary to close your cover).
3.Note that I placed electrical tape over the wires. This was necessary to keep them from breaking off of the USB connector since the solder points are so small.
(Images can be seen in: Almost Done.7z)
5.Solder on the wires to the palm charger receiver and you are done. Now you just need to carefully place the wires towards the middle of the phone so that you can close the back of your phone entirely (this is another reason why the wires need to be small).
A.Note the polarity of the connection.
B.Also I put a piece of electrical tape over the connections on the palm charger receiver to protect them (not shown in the image).
(Images can be seen in: Wireless Charger.7z)

Here is a video of the end product and how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOMVJ-vmWpg
Also I just verified that my compass is working without any problems.

This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.

ThugEsquire said:
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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Its been done with the Evo, but don't know anyone who did it with the Inc.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/h...rk-with-palm-touchstone-wireless-charger.html

Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?

What are you doing to align the coils? My biggest concern that's kept me from this is the magnets also would mess up the compass sensors readings which I for one actually value.
Wow, you managed to bring me out of my months of silence in posting...

I feel honored that I can get you out of your months of silence
The coil alignment is handled by the magnets inside of the palm touchstone charger itself (the base unit that plugs into the wall). The metal objects that you can see in the "Palm Receiver.7z" file are actually not magnets, but small circular pieces of metal that get pulled towards the charger base when you get them close to each other. So when you have the phone off of the charger, there are no magnets to mess with anything
Also you will notice that there is a piece of metal behind the coil, and that seems to block the inductive signal all together (because I tried to put it on backwards to no avail). Therefore your phone is mostly protected from the inductive transmission.
The only thing that I noticed, is that the touchscreen on the phone is a little weird when it is on the charger, but I see the same side effects when plugging the phone into a "non-htc" charger (before performing this "upgrade"). **I also saw this on my Moto Droid when connecting it to a 1 amp charger, and I have seen this with multiple other touchscreen devices so I think it just has something to do with the frequency of the charger.
Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"

pianoplayer said:
Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
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Yah, it probably should be, and may get moved (which is perfectly fine by me). I put it in here because I am a developer and much more likely to do this, so I figured the development community would be more interested.

ThugEsquire said:
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.

nevetsvsx said:
Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
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I trust your method, I just don't trust my shaky hands
BTW there is a multi quote button so you dont have to do a separate post for each reply

I have a rubber case on my Dinc... would I need to remove it for charging?
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!

I think you will be ok if it is one of those thin (about 1mm thick) rubber cases. Anything thicker than that and you would probably have to install the wireless receiver on the case itself and remove your battery cover all together.
I tested a thin rubber case that I have (no more than 1mm thick I think) that fits a Droid Eris and it charges as long as its flush to the back of my phone.
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Wow, this is amazing, very well done. I think this is the first hard mod I've heard of for an Android. I guess gold cards were a sorta gray area.

I've had my Incredible modded to work with a Touchstone since around June of last year. It works great, but I must caution anyone thinking of doing this to be VERY careful. Experience with soldering and a steady hand is a must. One could fairly easily mess up their phone attempting to do this.

Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Paul600k5 said:
Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Sure, if you wanna take apart one of those generic receivers and try to fit it inside your phone!

nevetsvsx said:
You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
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What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.

ThugEsquire said:
What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
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No, the transmission of data wirelessly is achieved through modulated EM waves. This is simple inductance: a changing electric field creates a magnetic field, a changing magnetic field generates an electric field, so a current carrying loop placed near another loop of wire will induce current in the other loop. The receiver in the phone is engineered to "create" the "proper" amount current to charge your battery when combined with the base. In theory yes, but not with this equipment.

How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...

Mr. Spontaneous said:
How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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I have used the USB charger and data transfer cables without any problems at all. Also I have copied some files off of my phone to my PC since the "upgrade" and did not notice any extended times or anything that would remotely make me think something was wrong.
I did not run a speed test before and after to see if anything slowed down, but as you said we are only touching the power pins, so I highly doubt anything has changed.

DIY adapting discreet OTG

Just a few quick pics to show you an idea for a way of easily maxing a cheap OTG adapter more discreet. I'm not claiming its pretty but it works
Started with one of there for £1.90;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150758616053?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_1480wt_1037
Slit the side of the soft black plastic cover. I found all the wires to be embedded on one side so made 1mm deep cuts on the other side allowing it to bend. Cover with material of your choice (I've not got that far). Add a simple velcro pad to your case and usb device of choice and attach in place.
Sorry the pic is an attachment. Haven't had chance to look for the upload rules/sites

Why not just get the ones that are a cable? They bend easier, and you can still velcro if you want it attached to the back.
http://www.amazon.com/T-Flash-Adapter-Samsung-GT-i9100-GT-N7000/dp/B005FUNYSA/ref=wl_mb_recs_1_dp

I have one but wanted something more compact.

wireless charging mod (s4 ACTIVE)

Heres the backround on what i did to get wireless charging going...
1) get palm coil and touchstone. i bought this on ebay for 10$ (just search touchstone charging kit)
2) carefully remove the coil from the back cover of the palm phone. plastic cover first then the rest.
3) what worked easiest for me was to keep all the coil stuff stuck to the removable plastic piece holding everything together, then you can simply stick it in the back of our active covers. (make sure when moving the magnets all the positive sides are facing towards the dock)
4) Connecting it. I tried doing this a couple different ways and i eventually ended up pulling tiny copper wire out of computer speaker cable and used it like a twist tie on the phone terminals (then small amount of electrical tape to separate them...which worked out fine)*I attempted to do the same on the coil side of the connection but that was a bust so i ended up soldering it.. not my first choice but since its on the palm coil not my active I did it.*
5) you should be all good to go at this point
here are some pics too and of course if you some of mess your phone up...its not my fault
Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvO01b1CKBk
feel free to pm if ya got a question me... I am leaving the country tomorrow night for a week, but ill try to get back to ya
happy modding
in the picture with highlighting yellow goes to left phone terminal(positive) and brown goes to right teminal (negative)

bdgarel said:
Heres the backround on what i did to get wireless charging going...
1) get palm coil and touchstone. i bought this on ebay for 10$ (just search touchstone charging kit)
2) carefully remove the coil from the back cover of the palm phone. plastic cover first then the rest.
3) what worked easiest for me was to keep all the coil stuff stuck to the removable plastic piece holding everything together, then you can simply stick it in the back of our active covers. (make sure when moving the magnets all the positive sides are facing towards the dock)
4) Connecting it. I tried doing this a couple different ways and i eventually ended up pulling tiny copper wire out of computer speaker cable and used it like a twist tie on the phone terminals (then small amount of electrical tape to separate them...which worked out fine)*I attempted to do the same on the coil side of the connection but that was a bust so i ended up soldering it.. not my first choice but since its on the palm coil not my active I did it.*
5) you should be all good to go at this point
here are some pics too and of course if you some of mess your phone up...its not my fault
Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvO01b1CKBk
feel free to pm if ya got a question me... I am leaving the country tomorrow night for a week, but ill try to get back to ya
happy modding
in the picture with highlighting yellow goes to left phone terminal and brown goes to right
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This video seems very helpful with the process, just wish i knew which side was pos and which is neg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw1QIPwkZU
EDIT: i see the pics thank that helps!

joshuadjohnson22 said:
This video seems very helpful with the process, just wish i knew which side was pos and which is neg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw1QIPwkZU
EDIT: i see the pics thank that helps!
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Use a multimeter...if you dont know how, you probably shouldn't attempt this hack and should wait for an aftermarket back plate to come out

Out of curiosity, how strong are these magnets? Am I going to have to make sure that my phone gets nowhere near my credit cards (and other magnetic cards, media, etc.)?

jt3 said:
Out of curiosity, how strong are these magnets? Am I going to have to make sure that my phone gets nowhere near my credit cards (and other magnetic cards, media, etc.)?
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They are fairly strong but I have yet to have any issues with my cards...however I usually keep my phone in a separate pocket

Have you tested the phones waterproof capabilities since you did this mod? I love the idea, want to do it, but im on the fence, as it seems it would make it very easy to make the waterproofing gasket fail with a small wire.... on the other hand, you dont have to take the back off, or open the charging port, so if it doesn't void the waterproofing, it could be even better

Obviously, if any wire or any part of the wireless receiver protrudes over the seal, the water resistance will be compromised, but that's not the only issue.
In the back panel replacement sticker on the back of the S4A, it tells you to press under the camera LED. Pressing there engages the rubber seal. The issue is that any of these non-oem wireless receivers is going to slightly lift the central portion of the back away from the phone. Thus, even if no part of the seal-line is breached, I still wouldn't trust that the seal could engage fully.
Don't get me wrong... I'm going to do something similar, since I'd rather have wireless charging. Still... until an OEM wireless charging backplate comes from Samsung, I'd assume it's an either/or situation. Wireless charging OR water resistance.

jt3 said:
Obviously, if any wire or any part of the wireless receiver protrudes over the seal, the water resistance will be compromised, but that's not the only issue.
In the back panel replacement sticker on the back of the S4A, it tells you to press under the camera LED. Pressing there engages the rubber seal. The issue is that any of these non-oem wireless receivers is going to slightly lift the central portion of the back away from the phone. Thus, even if no part of the seal-line is breached, I still wouldn't trust that the seal could engage fully.
Don't get me wrong... I'm going to do something similar, since I'd rather have wireless charging. Still... until an OEM wireless charging backplate comes from Samsung, I'd assume it's an either/or situation. Wireless charging OR water resistance.
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I will fix the wire issue by using copper tape. I'm excited to try it...

I am doing this mod tonight and I thought I would share some information.
See below for the information I have gathered:
Yellow lines = Copper tape- as you can tell it gets very cramped around the end because of the gasket. I may need to use a different path or wires like the OP. The important stuff to gather from this is which is positive and which is negative on both the phone and the palm pre touchstone.

Nice idea, curious to see how this works out.

Update
My copper tape has not arrived but I installed everything else. It does appear that the coil makes the rear housing push out which leads me to believe it will not do well to repel water away from the seal during extended use but I would prefer wireless charging
If you plan on using a case I would recommend ordering stronger magnets from supermagnets.com part number Disc - D1046. These should work well with any case and it will fit more snug because they are a lot stronger. I will update with photos once the copper tape is installed and everything is working.

Am I missing something? Why doesn't the Samsung wireless charging kit work or the wireless receiver tags you can get for the S4 so you can use a Qi charger?
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holysnikey said:
Am I missing something? Why doesn't the Samsung wireless charging kit work or the wireless receiver tags you can get for the S4 so you can use a Qi charger?
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The battery door is different. In theory it will work but you would have to figure out a way to gut the back plate and that would be a lot harder than palm's touchstone mod. Or just wait for the active's wireless back plate to be released. This is a lot cheaper IMO $10 vs $30-150

Ya I just realized this. But still do you think the wireless charger receiver tag could work? If you search on Amazon or Ebay "Galaxy S4 wireless charging receiver tag" there's the component which is stuck inside the back cover Samsung is selling. Except it can be bought for $10-20 and most likely can fit in the Active. I don't know because I have the original S4 but just trying to throw out some ideas. In theory if the tag works you can get it for $15 then use any Qi charger and you're good. While not quite as cheap it's only a few bucks more and much easier and looks way better probably. That is if it works of course.
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holysnikey said:
Ya I just realized this. But still do you think the wireless charger receiver tag could work? If you search on Amazon or Ebay "Galaxy S4 wireless charging receiver tag" there's the component which is stuck inside the back cover Samsung is selling. Except it can be bought for $10-20 and most likely can fit in the Active. I don't know because I have the original S4 but just trying to throw out some ideas. In theory if the tag works you can get it for $15 then use any Qi charger and you're good. While not quite as cheap it's only a few bucks more and much easier and looks way better probably. That is if it works of course.
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that would probably work... if i understand it correctly...

That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.

holysnikey said:
That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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It probably will work but it will cost a lot more than this mod we are talking about. It will be a lot easier to install though

holysnikey said:
That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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I went ahead and order this 2, so we will see

joshuadjohnson22 said:
I went ahead and order this 2, so we will see
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Same here. Amazon. 14.99

jdminpdx said:
Same here. Amazon. 14.99
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I paid a little more because I wanted to get it this week. The cheaper ones come from China and may take a while. I now need a replacement back for my active, somehow with the palm mod one of my clips doesnt work any longer so under my volume rocker it is propped up. Excited to have wireless charging. Hopefully this week
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Transcover USB charger access

Hi,
Bought the official transcover (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-ASUS-Gen...rs_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item2a34948a1e&_uhb=1) which was quite expensive but totally worth it.
The only thing I find annoying with it is that with the cover closed you can't charge the tablet... so I was thinking of making a hole with a construction knife so the USB connector can be plugged in with the cover closed. I was just wondering if anyone tried this already? And if so what would you recommend to use to make the hole?
Thanks

JamZo said:
Hi,
Bought the official transcover (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-ASUS-Gen...rs_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item2a34948a1e&_uhb=1) which was quite expensive but totally worth it.
The only thing I find annoying with it is that with the cover closed you can't charge the tablet... so I was thinking of making a hole with a construction knife so the USB connector can be plugged in with the cover closed. I was just wondering if anyone tried this already? And if so what would you recommend to use to make the hole?
Thanks
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I'd say the bit you cut through looks very cutable, so probably just a sharp craft knife or something similar. Maybe mark it up first and be careful! Need all those fingers to operate it