Heres the backround on what i did to get wireless charging going...
1) get palm coil and touchstone. i bought this on ebay for 10$ (just search touchstone charging kit)
2) carefully remove the coil from the back cover of the palm phone. plastic cover first then the rest.
3) what worked easiest for me was to keep all the coil stuff stuck to the removable plastic piece holding everything together, then you can simply stick it in the back of our active covers. (make sure when moving the magnets all the positive sides are facing towards the dock)
4) Connecting it. I tried doing this a couple different ways and i eventually ended up pulling tiny copper wire out of computer speaker cable and used it like a twist tie on the phone terminals (then small amount of electrical tape to separate them...which worked out fine)*I attempted to do the same on the coil side of the connection but that was a bust so i ended up soldering it.. not my first choice but since its on the palm coil not my active I did it.*
5) you should be all good to go at this point
here are some pics too and of course if you some of mess your phone up...its not my fault
Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvO01b1CKBk
feel free to pm if ya got a question me... I am leaving the country tomorrow night for a week, but ill try to get back to ya
happy modding
in the picture with highlighting yellow goes to left phone terminal(positive) and brown goes to right teminal (negative)
bdgarel said:
Heres the backround on what i did to get wireless charging going...
1) get palm coil and touchstone. i bought this on ebay for 10$ (just search touchstone charging kit)
2) carefully remove the coil from the back cover of the palm phone. plastic cover first then the rest.
3) what worked easiest for me was to keep all the coil stuff stuck to the removable plastic piece holding everything together, then you can simply stick it in the back of our active covers. (make sure when moving the magnets all the positive sides are facing towards the dock)
4) Connecting it. I tried doing this a couple different ways and i eventually ended up pulling tiny copper wire out of computer speaker cable and used it like a twist tie on the phone terminals (then small amount of electrical tape to separate them...which worked out fine)*I attempted to do the same on the coil side of the connection but that was a bust so i ended up soldering it.. not my first choice but since its on the palm coil not my active I did it.*
5) you should be all good to go at this point
here are some pics too and of course if you some of mess your phone up...its not my fault
Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvO01b1CKBk
feel free to pm if ya got a question me... I am leaving the country tomorrow night for a week, but ill try to get back to ya
happy modding
in the picture with highlighting yellow goes to left phone terminal and brown goes to right
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This video seems very helpful with the process, just wish i knew which side was pos and which is neg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw1QIPwkZU
EDIT: i see the pics thank that helps!
joshuadjohnson22 said:
This video seems very helpful with the process, just wish i knew which side was pos and which is neg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw1QIPwkZU
EDIT: i see the pics thank that helps!
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Use a multimeter...if you dont know how, you probably shouldn't attempt this hack and should wait for an aftermarket back plate to come out
Out of curiosity, how strong are these magnets? Am I going to have to make sure that my phone gets nowhere near my credit cards (and other magnetic cards, media, etc.)?
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Out of curiosity, how strong are these magnets? Am I going to have to make sure that my phone gets nowhere near my credit cards (and other magnetic cards, media, etc.)?
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They are fairly strong but I have yet to have any issues with my cards...however I usually keep my phone in a separate pocket
Have you tested the phones waterproof capabilities since you did this mod? I love the idea, want to do it, but im on the fence, as it seems it would make it very easy to make the waterproofing gasket fail with a small wire.... on the other hand, you dont have to take the back off, or open the charging port, so if it doesn't void the waterproofing, it could be even better
Obviously, if any wire or any part of the wireless receiver protrudes over the seal, the water resistance will be compromised, but that's not the only issue.
In the back panel replacement sticker on the back of the S4A, it tells you to press under the camera LED. Pressing there engages the rubber seal. The issue is that any of these non-oem wireless receivers is going to slightly lift the central portion of the back away from the phone. Thus, even if no part of the seal-line is breached, I still wouldn't trust that the seal could engage fully.
Don't get me wrong... I'm going to do something similar, since I'd rather have wireless charging. Still... until an OEM wireless charging backplate comes from Samsung, I'd assume it's an either/or situation. Wireless charging OR water resistance.
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Obviously, if any wire or any part of the wireless receiver protrudes over the seal, the water resistance will be compromised, but that's not the only issue.
In the back panel replacement sticker on the back of the S4A, it tells you to press under the camera LED. Pressing there engages the rubber seal. The issue is that any of these non-oem wireless receivers is going to slightly lift the central portion of the back away from the phone. Thus, even if no part of the seal-line is breached, I still wouldn't trust that the seal could engage fully.
Don't get me wrong... I'm going to do something similar, since I'd rather have wireless charging. Still... until an OEM wireless charging backplate comes from Samsung, I'd assume it's an either/or situation. Wireless charging OR water resistance.
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I will fix the wire issue by using copper tape. I'm excited to try it...
I am doing this mod tonight and I thought I would share some information.
See below for the information I have gathered:
Yellow lines = Copper tape- as you can tell it gets very cramped around the end because of the gasket. I may need to use a different path or wires like the OP. The important stuff to gather from this is which is positive and which is negative on both the phone and the palm pre touchstone.
Nice idea, curious to see how this works out.
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My copper tape has not arrived but I installed everything else. It does appear that the coil makes the rear housing push out which leads me to believe it will not do well to repel water away from the seal during extended use but I would prefer wireless charging
If you plan on using a case I would recommend ordering stronger magnets from supermagnets.com part number Disc - D1046. These should work well with any case and it will fit more snug because they are a lot stronger. I will update with photos once the copper tape is installed and everything is working.
Am I missing something? Why doesn't the Samsung wireless charging kit work or the wireless receiver tags you can get for the S4 so you can use a Qi charger?
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Am I missing something? Why doesn't the Samsung wireless charging kit work or the wireless receiver tags you can get for the S4 so you can use a Qi charger?
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The battery door is different. In theory it will work but you would have to figure out a way to gut the back plate and that would be a lot harder than palm's touchstone mod. Or just wait for the active's wireless back plate to be released. This is a lot cheaper IMO $10 vs $30-150
Ya I just realized this. But still do you think the wireless charger receiver tag could work? If you search on Amazon or Ebay "Galaxy S4 wireless charging receiver tag" there's the component which is stuck inside the back cover Samsung is selling. Except it can be bought for $10-20 and most likely can fit in the Active. I don't know because I have the original S4 but just trying to throw out some ideas. In theory if the tag works you can get it for $15 then use any Qi charger and you're good. While not quite as cheap it's only a few bucks more and much easier and looks way better probably. That is if it works of course.
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Ya I just realized this. But still do you think the wireless charger receiver tag could work? If you search on Amazon or Ebay "Galaxy S4 wireless charging receiver tag" there's the component which is stuck inside the back cover Samsung is selling. Except it can be bought for $10-20 and most likely can fit in the Active. I don't know because I have the original S4 but just trying to throw out some ideas. In theory if the tag works you can get it for $15 then use any Qi charger and you're good. While not quite as cheap it's only a few bucks more and much easier and looks way better probably. That is if it works of course.
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that would probably work... if i understand it correctly...
That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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It probably will work but it will cost a lot more than this mod we are talking about. It will be a lot easier to install though
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That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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I went ahead and order this 2, so we will see
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I went ahead and order this 2, so we will see
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Same here. Amazon. 14.99
jdminpdx said:
Same here. Amazon. 14.99
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I paid a little more because I wanted to get it this week. The cheaper ones come from China and may take a while. I now need a replacement back for my active, somehow with the palm mod one of my clips doesnt work any longer so under my volume rocker it is propped up. Excited to have wireless charging. Hopefully this week
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***If this does not belong here I appologize, and feel free to move this if necessary. I just figured the development community is most likely to take this "upgrade" on***
After seeing that someone used Palm's wireless charger on their non-palm phone; I decided to put one on my Droid Incredible.
***This was done to a completely stock Dinc. I did not use any special back, and the stock back gets to stay on (unlike in the other video that I saw)
Wireless Charging the Droid Incredible
**Disclaimer: This will void your warranty, and if you solder something wrong will probably break your phone. With that said I can in no way be held accountable for anything that occurs while performing this “upgrade” to your phone.
>>>>If anyone knows where I can buy that little void sticker that you will see in a picture below, please let me know! If we can get that sticker then our warranty is not voided by doing this.
Supplies:
1.Palm touchstone charger http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/handheld/categories/palm/4/accessories/FB300AA%23AC3
2.Palm touchstone phone back http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/product/product_detail/FB306AA%23AC3?
3.Micro USB cable
4.Soldering Iron (the finer the tip on this the better)
5.Torx T6 screw driver
6.Safe pry tool (or a small flat head screwdriver)
7.Very tiny insulated wires (I just pulled mine out of a USB cable that I cut up)
8.Electrical Tape
9.[Optional] Multimeter to test that you actually made a good connection
How To (Images are of a higher quality (12mp) so I had to stick them in zip files to get them on here):
1.The palm touchstone phone back has a sticker inside of it that encases the wireless charging receiver, so you need to peel this off. Once it is peeled off it will look like this (without the wires soldered onto it):
(Images can be seen in: Palm Receiver.7z)
2.Remove the battery cover and the battery then unscrew the back from your phone (please view a tare down video for details, there are plenty of them on you tube that I used for a reference.)
1.All you need is a torx t6 screwdriver and a safe pry tool, I used a small flat head screwdriver and it worked just fine. Unscrew the 4 screws around the sides and then carefully pry off every place that the battery cover clips on, as they also hold on the red back.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc Inside.7z)
3.Solder on some wires to the USB connector as shown in the below image without soldering onto the pins next to them. This is difficult and takes some time and patience, since these connectors are very small and close (note the polarity in the image, notated in red).
A.Also it is necessary to place a piece of electrical tape over the components right next to the connector (Green box in the image) as they will short out the power and make it impossible to charge your phone if you do not (I found that out the hard way and went back and fixed it).
B.One final note here is that I had to melt down the red phone backing inside to allow the cables to get past the case. See the green rectangle in the image above for where I had to do that. I just used my soldering iron and melted it down, it makes a pretty nice indention for the wires to fit through.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc USB.7z)
4.Now push out the rubber plug in the red phone backing next to the USB cover (this is encircled in Green in the image from step 2).
A.Run the cables that you just solder on through that so that they are sticking through to the battery compartment on your phone.
B.You can also stick on the palm receiver to the inside of your phone cover (note the direction and placement, as this is necessary to close your cover).
3.Note that I placed electrical tape over the wires. This was necessary to keep them from breaking off of the USB connector since the solder points are so small.
(Images can be seen in: Almost Done.7z)
5.Solder on the wires to the palm charger receiver and you are done. Now you just need to carefully place the wires towards the middle of the phone so that you can close the back of your phone entirely (this is another reason why the wires need to be small).
A.Note the polarity of the connection.
B.Also I put a piece of electrical tape over the connections on the palm charger receiver to protect them (not shown in the image).
(Images can be seen in: Wireless Charger.7z)
Here is a video of the end product and how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOMVJ-vmWpg
Also I just verified that my compass is working without any problems.
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
ThugEsquire said:
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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Its been done with the Evo, but don't know anyone who did it with the Inc.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/h...rk-with-palm-touchstone-wireless-charger.html
Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
What are you doing to align the coils? My biggest concern that's kept me from this is the magnets also would mess up the compass sensors readings which I for one actually value.
Wow, you managed to bring me out of my months of silence in posting...
I feel honored that I can get you out of your months of silence
The coil alignment is handled by the magnets inside of the palm touchstone charger itself (the base unit that plugs into the wall). The metal objects that you can see in the "Palm Receiver.7z" file are actually not magnets, but small circular pieces of metal that get pulled towards the charger base when you get them close to each other. So when you have the phone off of the charger, there are no magnets to mess with anything
Also you will notice that there is a piece of metal behind the coil, and that seems to block the inductive signal all together (because I tried to put it on backwards to no avail). Therefore your phone is mostly protected from the inductive transmission.
The only thing that I noticed, is that the touchscreen on the phone is a little weird when it is on the charger, but I see the same side effects when plugging the phone into a "non-htc" charger (before performing this "upgrade"). **I also saw this on my Moto Droid when connecting it to a 1 amp charger, and I have seen this with multiple other touchscreen devices so I think it just has something to do with the frequency of the charger.
Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
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Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
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Yah, it probably should be, and may get moved (which is perfectly fine by me). I put it in here because I am a developer and much more likely to do this, so I figured the development community would be more interested.
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This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
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Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
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I trust your method, I just don't trust my shaky hands
BTW there is a multi quote button so you dont have to do a separate post for each reply
I have a rubber case on my Dinc... would I need to remove it for charging?
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I think you will be ok if it is one of those thin (about 1mm thick) rubber cases. Anything thicker than that and you would probably have to install the wireless receiver on the case itself and remove your battery cover all together.
I tested a thin rubber case that I have (no more than 1mm thick I think) that fits a Droid Eris and it charges as long as its flush to the back of my phone.
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Wow, this is amazing, very well done. I think this is the first hard mod I've heard of for an Android. I guess gold cards were a sorta gray area.
I've had my Incredible modded to work with a Touchstone since around June of last year. It works great, but I must caution anyone thinking of doing this to be VERY careful. Experience with soldering and a steady hand is a must. One could fairly easily mess up their phone attempting to do this.
Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Sure, if you wanna take apart one of those generic receivers and try to fit it inside your phone!
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You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
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What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
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What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
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No, the transmission of data wirelessly is achieved through modulated EM waves. This is simple inductance: a changing electric field creates a magnetic field, a changing magnetic field generates an electric field, so a current carrying loop placed near another loop of wire will induce current in the other loop. The receiver in the phone is engineered to "create" the "proper" amount current to charge your battery when combined with the base. In theory yes, but not with this equipment.
How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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I have used the USB charger and data transfer cables without any problems at all. Also I have copied some files off of my phone to my PC since the "upgrade" and did not notice any extended times or anything that would remotely make me think something was wrong.
I did not run a speed test before and after to see if anything slowed down, but as you said we are only touching the power pins, so I highly doubt anything has changed.
Has anyone found the wireless charging accessories for this guy yet?
it's supposed to use the new wireless charging 'standard' so any pad with the same technology should work
e.g. from amazon, type in qi charger
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Qi-Enabled-Position-Inductive-Charger/dp/B0041RRORA/ref=pd_cp_e_1
Verizon sells the Wireless Charging Battery Cover.
I tried to paste the link but the Forum won't let me (not till after 8 posts anyways)...
Looks like the back cover is out of stock on Verizonwireless.com. Does anyone know or have heard of this cover working with a Palm Pre Touchstone? Thanks...
Well I got my wireless charging pad and back cover today. The back cover is twice as thick as the stock cover. I came from a Palm Pre so I have a bunch of touchstones. Unforunately, I can confirm that the revo wireless charing system is NOT compatible with the touchstone. The verizon charging pad seems to sense when the phone is near and turns on. The touchstone did not, so that is probably one of the problems. I measured the voltage from the back of the touchstone cover and it wasaround 5.1 Volts. I am hoping I can use the touchstone coil on the stock cover of my revo and wire the charging leads to the revo. The revo has 4 pins for charging but the touchstone only has two, so I need to find out how to wire this. i may have to go through the USB 5V connection. I love my touchstone car mount and I am really hoping to be able to use the touchstones for charging the Revo.
Wireless charging pad: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12659&accessoryId=47605
Wireless charging battery cover: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12644&accessoryId=47587
Also, gsxrpilot would you say the wireless charging it worth it? for the almost 100 bucks you spend on it? and does gsxrpilot mean you ride a gsxr street bike?
Well there is a deal this month where you get the back free with the pad, so $70 for both. I got a little more discount because I complained that the only reason I needed a new phone and wireless charger is because my Palm Pre stopped working. I would say that it is worth the convenience. Constantly plugging in the micro usb charger due to the low battery life gets old. Now if I can get my touchstones to work, it will really be worth it.
And yes I have a '92 GSXR-750 and love to fly RC Planes and Helis, hence gsxrpilot.
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Well there is a deal this month where you get the back free with the pad, so $70 for both. I got a little more discount because I complained that the only reason I needed a new phone and wireless charger is because my Palm Pre stopped working. I would say that it is worth the convenience. Constantly plugging in the micro usb charger due to the low battery life gets old. Now if I can get my touchstones to work, it will really be worth it.
And yes I have a '92 GSXR-750 and love to fly RC Planes and Helis, hence gsxrpilot.
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I might have to get that then. Also, that's sick. My neighbor has a 20xx dsxr 750. They are a blast to ride.
Couple of gripes about this...
I bought the Wireless charging back for my Revo and it's not compatible with the Powermat that I already have, apparently the "qi" technology works differently than the induction that the Powermat uses. It IS compatible with the Energizer power mat which uses the same "qi" technology. but you're looking at the same price for either charging base.
Secondly, the wireless charging cover is twice as thick as the stock cover so any skins or cases you want to get for the phone will not fit. My silicon cover almost fits but buldges out on the sides.
I still think wireless charging is the way to go, just a heads up for those of you who are looking into this.
Well I got my touchstone to work with my Revo! I scraped the charging coil from the back of a palm pre cover (bought 2 for less than $5), then hot glued it on the back of my stock revo cover. I had to dremel 4 holes where the metal disks were and added 2 disks per hole since the revo is heavier than the pre and more disks help it stay on the touchstone better. I now have 4 little bumps on the back of my cover. I searched everywhere for the connector that would fit in the stock cover but couldn't find it. So I wound up using magnet wire and soldering directly to the charging tabs on the coil and the top of the connectors on the phone. Didn't have to use too much solder so I could remove the wires if I wanted to go back to the verizon charger. It is nice having the stock cover back, the verizon wireless cover was so much thicker.
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Well I got my touchstone to work with my Revo! I scraped the charging coil from the back of a palm pre cover (bought 2 for less than $5), then hot glued it on the back of my stock revo cover. I had to dremel 4 holes where the metal disks were and added 2 disks per hole since the revo is heavier than the pre and more disks help it stay on the touchstone better. I now have 4 little bumps on the back of my cover. I searched everywhere for the connector that would fit in the stock cover but couldn't find it. So I wound up using magnet wire and soldering directly to the charging tabs on the coil and the top of the connectors on the phone. Didn't have to use too much solder so I could remove the wires if I wanted to go back to the verizon charger. It is nice having the stock cover back, the verizon wireless cover was so much thicker.
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Any way you could post a picture? I'm interested to see if that setup would work for my powermat.
OK,I think I attached the picture correctly. I did the following:
1. Remove the charging sticker and assembly from the back of the Palm Pre charging cover. Do not use the Pixi charging cover assembly, there is a ribbon in it that cannot be re-assembled after removal.
2. I took my dremel tool and routed some space off the inside back of the cover. The revolution cover is a bit thicker than the pre cover and I was concerned it might be too thick to allow the inductive power through.
3. I also routed some indentations in the back of the cover. (see Phone Back Image) I'm not sure if this was necessary either but I had really hoped I could mount the phone vertically on the touchstone in my car like the pre so i put a second set of metal disks behind the indentations. As it turned out, the revo is much heavier than the pre so this didn't work.
4. I glued the sticker and assembly to the back of the stock cover. First I tried crazy glue which didn't work that well so I wound up using hot glue.
5. Finally I soldered magnet wire from the palm charging tabs to the wireless charging tabs. Top tab to the top charging post (there are 4 of these posts, I only used two) and bottom to bottom. The top tab and post is ground, the bottom tab and post are +5V. (see Phone Inside 2 image)
6. I snapped the cover on (there is still a small gap which I haven't quite worked out yet but it works ok). Stick it on the touchstone and it says "wireless Charging" (which is actually annoying and I thought I had figured a way to remove this notification but it came back)
Now all of my touchstones work for charging and I am not sure I will ever go back to the verizon wireless charger.
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OK,I think I attached the picture correctly. I did the following:
1. Remove the charging sticker and assembly from the back of the Palm Pre charging cover. Do not use the Pixi charging cover assembly, there is a ribbon in it that cannot be re-assembled after removal.
2. I took my dremel tool and routed some space off the inside back of the cover. The revolution cover is a bit thicker than the pre cover and I was concerned it might be too thick to allow the inductive power through.
3. I also routed some indentations in the back of the cover. (see Phone Back Image) I'm not sure if this was necessary either but I had really hoped I could mount the phone vertically on the touchstone in my car like the pre so i put a second set of metal disks behind the indentations. As it turned out, the revo is much heavier than the pre so this didn't work.
4. I glued the sticker and assembly to the back of the stock cover. First I tried crazy glue which didn't work that well so I wound up using hot glue.
5. Finally I soldered magnet wire from the palm charging tabs to the wireless charging tabs. Top tab to the top charging post (there are 4 of these posts, I only used two) and bottom to bottom. The top tab and post is ground, the bottom tab and post are +5V. (see Phone Inside 2 image)
6. I snapped the cover on (there is still a small gap which I haven't quite worked out yet but it works ok). Stick it on the touchstone and it says "wireless Charging" (which is actually annoying and I thought I had figured a way to remove this notification but it came back)
Now all of my touchstones work for charging and I am not sure I will ever go back to the verizon wireless charger.
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awesome stuff, I will definitely give this a shot and post results.
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nice hack.....looks like your method could work on most any accessory case
how long would it take to charge the revo?
Charging probably takes slightly longer than through the USB port. The phone can get a little warm too but I have never had a problem. It's really convenient in the car where I glued the touchstone to my center console. If you have ever tried to drive while plugging in the tiny usb cable you will know what I am speaking about.
Just received this dock and have been using it for a couple of days.
Only $10 -- a cheap alternative so some of the 40-50$ options.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Data-Sy...531363?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f1de5aea3
It's small, feels like a decent quality piece. It's glossy black with rubber feet on the bottom so it doesn't slide around. It keeps the Note 2 supported nicely when it's dropped in. It's got a floppy rubbery insert that you can take out if you have a case.
One con is that a few times when I've yanked my phone out, the rubber piece has either partially or completely come out. My advice would be to decide on a case of not and, if you leave the rubber insert in, put a drop of hot glue or something to keep the insert in place.
See pics below. Let me know if you have questions.
Does it work with the slimmer cases?
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This is basically a glorified charger. No USB no HDMI no speak out. Does it even charge a spare battery? Whats the point?
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What voltage and amperes does it deliver?
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II
I think it's cool man, it's just a simple charging dock. Great to keep at the office or your bedside.
So the only difference then my stock cable is my phone will be standing upward?...Lol...
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Does it work with the slimmer cases?
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Yes, it works with a slim case for me without even taking the rubber insert out. When you take the rubber insert out, there's a good 0.5-0.75cm around it, particularly the edges. A case with a big beefy back probably would not fit.
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What voltage and amperes does it deliver?
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It doesn't come with a cable -- you use your phone's provided cable or anything else, so whatever those deliver. I just have a usb-to-microusb running from my computer to it and it works fine.
wish777 said:
So the only difference then my stock cable is my phone will be standing upward?...Lol...
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shook187 said:
This is basically a glorified charger. No USB no HDMI no speak out. Does it even charge a spare battery? Whats the point?
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Sheesh guys. Think a little more outside your own world.
I have this dock connected to my computer at work. I walk in from a meeting, drop the phone in the charger (instead of setting it down, picking up the cable, jamming it in, etc) and it's immediately mounted as a drive on my computer and is charging anytime I'm at my desk. Need to run to a meeting? You just pick it up...no fussing with cables.
Nope, no spare battery. Surprise, most people don't need one. I spend half my day working at my desk, meaning my phone is charging half the day. In fact, I don't even feel like I ever "charge". It's just sitting in its stand. I never need to plug it in at home.
Nope, no USB or HDMI. Surprise, 99% of the people that use this phone care about that, so why pay for a $100 for a dock with it (that's the wrong color, BTW).
20 bucks? Wow, they saw you coming a mile off.
It's the same dock as this, which is in black or white.
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20 bucks? Wow, they saw you coming a mile off.
It's the same dock as this, which is in black or white.
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Different dock and doesn't ship to the US. But yes, I see your point, there are cheaper alternatives on ebay. Thanks for trying to make me feel like an idiot, Baron. You are very thoughtful.
Here is the same dock for a better price for those of us in "the colonies"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Data-Sy...531363?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f1de5aea3
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Yes, it works with a slim case for me without even taking the rubber insert out. When you take the rubber insert out, there's a good 0.5-0.75cm around it, particularly the edges. A case with a big beefy back probably would not fit.
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Thanks man, that's the piece of info I needed. Ordered. I've got the Samsung TPU case, will report if it fits when the dock comes in. If it doesn't fit, I'll fix it up with some polymorph plastic.
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Just received this dock and have been using it for a couple of days.
Only $10 -- a cheap alternative so some of the 40-50$ options.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Data-Sy...531363?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f1de5aea3
It's small, feels like a decent quality piece. It's glossy black with rubber feet on the bottom so it doesn't slide around. It keeps the Note 2 supported nicely when it's dropped in. It's got a floppy rubbery insert that you can take out if you have a case.
One con is that a few times when I've yanked my phone out, the rubber piece has either partially or completely come out. My advice would be to decide on a case of not and, if you leave the rubber insert in, put a drop of hot glue or something to keep the insert in place.
See pics below. Let me know if you have questions.
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Just picked one up, and thanks for sharing man :good:
While their prices aren't always the best, I do like Smartphonepedia's video reviews on youtube (the full shows, not the 30 second blips) and the guys there are very pro-android and know their devices. I would throw business at them vs a random guy on ebay any day.
May be ordering one of these. Thanks for the tip!
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Just bought 2 of the $9.99 ones. I'll try to post my thoughts when received but it will be in a long time 14 to 30 days of expected delivery.
i'm thinking of getting this for my note http://www.mobilefun.de/36639-samsung-galaxy-note-2-dual-dockingstation.htm, this dock also charge an extra battery.
sorry for the german website, you can click flag above to change into uk/us site for mobilefun.
I got the dock in the OP this past Friday, and so far so good. Very nice looking, no cheap feel to it, and the Bodyglove case fits perfect on the dock. No complaints over here folks :good:
Nice find OP. Rough crowd lol.
wish777 said:
So the only difference then my stock cable is my phone will be standing upward?...Lol...
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You can just plug the phone into the dock without having to pick up the charge cable and plug it into the phone. Same for removing it from the dock. Since we have to charge the phone everyday, I would say the dock has a value.
Video explaining the setup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUiYrk_LPF4
Video in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIya1NEXy4Y
Picture of the setup: http://i.imgur.com/cb3to1M.jpg
I was bored on a long weekend and decided that the universal car mounts with the arms (you know the ones I'm talking about - these pieces of junk http://i.imgur.com/f2zZcCs.jpg ) plus the necessity of plugging the phone in manually was ENTIRELY too much trouble.
Ok, not really... but that was my excuse for putting together a little DIY project!
It turns out that the LG WCP-300 wireless qi charger fits perfectly inside a gutted Schosche Vent Mount (this guy: http://i.imgur.com/rRpZO78.jpg ). I had to cut out quite a bit of little plastic pieces, but the charger is held very securely once the mount is gutted.
Next, I bolted a secure, flat platform to my A-pillar trim piece (the pillar to the left of the windshield) and mounted a flexible arm suction cup mount.
From there, I hard-wired a 2amp usb charger using a fuse-tap and ran the cable up through the dash and out between the A-pillar trim piece and the dashboard. This cable is plugged into the wireless qi charger.
So now, when I get in the car, I just set my phone on the charger, the magnets hold it securely in place, and it charges wirelessly!
It's totally awesome and is definitely the most expensive car mount I've ever had - but it's SO cool!
Total cost: Around $40 for the mount, another $40 for the LG WCP-300 wireless charger.
joe.cole1 said:
Video explaining the setup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUiYrk_LPF4
Video in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIya1NEXy4Y
Picture of the setup: http://i.imgur.com/cb3to1M.jpg
I was bored on a long weekend and decided that the universal car mounts with the arms (you know the ones I'm talking about - these pieces of junk http://i.imgur.com/f2zZcCs.jpg ) plus the necessity of plugging the phone in manually was ENTIRELY too much trouble.
Ok, not really... but that was my excuse for putting together a little DIY project!
It turns out that the LG WCP-300 wireless qi charger fits perfectly inside a gutted Schosche Vent Mount (this guy: http://i.imgur.com/rRpZO78.jpg ). I had to cut out quite a bit of little plastic pieces, but the charger is held very securely once the mount is gutted.
Next, I bolted a secure, flat platform to my A-pillar trim piece (the pillar to the left of the windshield) and mounted a flexible arm suction cup mount.
From there, I hard-wired a 2amp usb charger using a fuse-tap and ran the cable up through the dash and out between the A-pillar trim piece and the dashboard. This cable is plugged into the wireless qi charger.
So now, when I get in the car, I just set my phone on the charger, the magnets hold it securely in place, and it charges wirelessly!
It's totally awesome and is definitely the most expensive car mount I've ever had - but it's SO cool!
Total cost: Around $40 for the mount, another $40 for the LG WCP-300 wireless charger.
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Nicely done, looks really good, thanks for sharing
Joe.Cole1: What magnets? Are there magnets in the WCP-300?
I really like this idea.
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Joe.Cole1: What magnets? Are there magnets in the WCP-300?
I really like this idea.
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I purchased some neodymium rare earth magnets from Home Depot. Not sure of the exact ones, but the ones on the phone mount are fairly large, while the ones inside the case are, by necessity, much smaller.
There are no magnets in the WCP-300 - I found that putting magnets on it - at least in my case - made charging not as consistent. It may have just been some other factor during my testing, but there you have it. The magnets are around the WCP-300 and around the wireless charging coils in the phone itself (I popped off the cover attempting to place the magnets inside the phone initially).
Hopefully that answers your question!
Very awesome man. I'd totally pay 100 bucks for that set up if a company made it like that. How much time from start to finish did it take you about?
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Mandroidified said:
Very awesome man. I'd totally pay 100 bucks for that set up if a company made it like that. How much time from start to finish did it take you about?
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I'd say it only took me an hour or two of solid work, but I was running to Home Depot and back over the course of a day and also testing/trying out different stuff before I found the solution that worked.
All-in-all, well worth the time/money!
Is ur Lg a wireless charger? I mean charged wirelessly
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93fuelslut said:
Is ur Lg a wireless charger? I mean charged wirelessly
sent from your moms phone
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Yes, it's a Verizon Wireless LG G2 which has Qi wireless charging built-in.
What's your thoughts on this phone? I'm thinking of this or the moto x but I hear bad things abt this phone. So what's
Ur thoughts on this phone
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What's your thoughts on this phone? I'm thinking of this or the moto x but I hear bad things abt this phone. So what's
Ur thoughts on this phone
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Nobody is going to see or want to reply to your question here. There are posts dedicated to the pros and cons of the phone elsewhere.
nice car mount dude. hope to get this one also.. :good:
do the magnets interfere with your gps/compass?
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do the magnets interfere with your gps/compass?
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Great questions. The ONLY thing they interfere with is the compass... the phone always thinks it's pointing north. However, I only use navigation, and direction is determined by GPS, not by compass, so I don't notice the difference.
well nice try indeed.
but i have my doubts about those magnets corrupting the flash storage and the compass alignment during use. imagine s.o. putting stronger neodym there. that blows the electrons into space lol. also destroying the carinterior is bad ....
well nice try indeed.
but i have my doubts about those magnets corrupting the flash storage and the compass alignment during use. imagine s.o. putting stronger neodym there. that blows the electrons into space lol. also destroying the carinterior is bad ....
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Well, it's a good thing he's not forcing this on the general public then. It's only one option. Looking forward to seeing your solution.
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
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well nice try indeed.
but i have my doubts about those magnets corrupting the flash storage and the compass alignment during use. imagine s.o. putting stronger neodym there. that blows the electrons into space lol. also destroying the carinterior is bad ....
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Well, the car interior was not destroyed. I used a trim piece that costs $24 to replace.
If you could point me to a study or some proof that the magnets are bad for my phone, I will take them off in a heartbeat! As it is, I can deal with the compass not working.
I doubt these guys would be in business if magnets were bad for your phone. http://www.amazon.com/Cradle-less-Q...e=UTF8&qid=1382805684&sr=1-1&keywords=imagnet
Nice work OP.
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Well, the car interior was not destroyed. I used a trim piece that costs $24 to replace.
If you could point me to a study or some proof that the magnets are bad for my phone, I will take them off in a heartbeat! As it is, I can deal with the compass not working.
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well i dont know the physics behind very well, but i think when bad things come together and somebody uses a very heavy magnet the induction voltages could outrage and lead to misbehavior or destruction. but it seems like the have to be really strong to do even little damage.
But neodym magnets can of course cause severe damage to other sensors or metallic parts in the cellphone. Like the vibrator e.g. ... :silly: i think as long as the magnetic fields arent moved with high speeds nothing should happen to the flash memories.
the car interior wasnt destroyed ? didnt you cut or screw the A-pillar of the car ? ....
Look nice :good:
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well i dont know the physics behind very well, but i think when bad things come together and somebody uses a very heavy magnet the induction voltages could outrage and lead to misbehavior or destruction. but it seems like the have to be really strong to do even little damage.
But neodym magnets can of course cause severe damage to other sensors or metallic parts in the cellphone. Like the vibrator e.g. ... :silly: i think as long as the magnetic fields arent moved with high speeds nothing should happen to the flash memories.
the car interior wasnt destroyed ? didnt you cut or screw the A-pillar of the car ? ....
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I guess you missed it. Yes, I bolted it to the A-pillar TRIM PIECE, which, as I pointed out, is $24 to replace if I ever decide to get rid of it.
Not sure how magnets affect the phone in the long run (so far, nothing out of the ordinary), but I guess I'll be the pioneer and let y'all know if something goes wrong!
I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
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I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
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Yes, add a USB receiver.
Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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It's a receiver that connects through the USB port of the phone, it do e's not affect any waterproof seal, although you probably need to dry the usb port before charging, this is the same with all phone if it just came out of water.
Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Go to ebay and search for qi receiver, there are many available, although depending which one you get will vary in quality.
Yeah, I've seen those. I'm afraid they will be ripped off in my pocket, I think. So maybe the best bet is two phones and a twin SIM, so I have one for regular use and one for fishing. Or wait until spring and see if Sony gets their act together and actually deliver an expensive phone with the most common wireless charging option.
Just use a case with the receiver, sony knows about qi, they have a offcial qi case for the Z5, but decided not to use qi, and opt for fast charging instead.
Good point, a thin case with the receiver inside would probably be a good solution! Thanks! And Sony didn't think that one through. It makes it less likely that Samsung people, who often have a bunch of QI stuff from their phones, will convert. Fast charging is OK, but I prefer to put the phone into the car holder or on the bedside table and start charging without having to plug anything.
This one could be the right type:
http://d3rmje198d1rhf.cloudfront.net/graphics/450pixelp/58836.jpg
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This one could be the right type:
http://d3rmje198d1rhf.cloudfront.net/graphics/450pixelp/58836.jpg
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nillkin has the best receiver so far if you are in for a USB receiver, unlike the one's sold on ebay, they just use a thin sticker with the circuit in between, the nillkin uses thin plasic, and is very stable, I have the nillkin one for my XP and V20. USB is availabl;e in two version, A and B.
The offcial sony one is pretty thick, not worth buying, but that is for the Z5 only.
Thanks! I'll get that when I change phone, then. But the picture is of a case I can use on the phone, not a receiver.
In case anybody else wants to try this, it works. But not with the pictured case, that creates pressure on the back of the phone which gives color blotches on the screen. So I found my solution in a so called "Slim Rubber Gel Case Cover" and the Nillkin receiver. Problem solved, and it works quite nicely. I rarely need to to connect my phone with the USB, but it's quite easy to pop off the case and remove the receiver.