So I am usually a lurker on XDA, but I thought I'd get the community's thoughts. I'm a fellow Nexus 7 owner and I want a dock that uses the pogo pins. I'm tired of waiting for ASUS and I also happen to be a mechanical engineer that works in the consumer electronics industry. So, I've mocked up my own design. It's similar to the ASUS design and will have USB charging and audio out. The only way I could bring it to market is Kickstarter.
Before I go through that much effort (Kickstarter has revised its approval process) I want to gauge demand. The sale price would be $30. I've made a poll below to streamline things, but feel free to add comments. Rendered concept below. I am also considering adding stereo RCA outputs as well. Would you want that?
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I am also considering adding stereo RCA outputs as well. Would you want that?
|UPDATE 1|
Thanks everyone for the feedback! I'm still in the early design phase so feedback helps. To address the request for speakers: at this point it's not something I'm looking to add. It adds cost, development time and complexity. Depending on how well things go if I put it on Kickstarter, a speaker option may be considered. Also, now that I've seen there is some interest, I refined the design slightly to slim it up. See below:
Would adding some sort of HDMI out be too complicated or difficult?
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Would adding some sort of HDMI out be too complicated or difficult?
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Unfortunately, the Nexus 7 doesn't have any method of outputting an HDMI signal. In fact, the pogo pins do not allow for data, just audio and charging.
Hi!
Is it easy to put a charging light on the front?
I would be interested!
Ofiaich
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Unfortunately, the Nexus 7 doesn't have any method of outputting an HDMI signal. In fact, the pogo pins do not allow for data, just audio and charging.
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Oh ok. I don't really know much about electronics. I barely passed my circuits class in college, lol.
At any rate, I have never used kickstarter, so as long as I can pledge without using paypal (we had a falling out back in 2005), I would be happy to help out with this!
Add a holo blue charging light and I'm in for one..
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I would kickstart for sure, i'd love to get my hands on one.
Nice idea, keep us updated :good:
I was close to support it but since Asus is finaly realeasing their dock, i'm unsure there is still a large market for it
jc
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I was close to support it but since Asus is finaly realeasing their dock, i'm unsure there is still a large market for it
jc
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Source???? It's WAY too late for the Xmas market. It should have been onsales 6 weeks ago to catch that....
I would kickstart it.
If you could figure out a way to make it with external speakers instead of an audio jack or (maybe I am getting ambitious here) if possible external speakers AND audio jack and I would pay the 30 dollars
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If you could figure out a way to make it with external speakers instead of an audio jack or (maybe I am getting ambitious here) if possible external speakers AND audio jack and I would pay the 30 dollars
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I'd personally rather not pay to have a below-par amplifier included.
well, if you WANT to people buy your dock, putt 2 USB's. i would buy a dock, but a dock like this needs a USB ports. so everybody could use mouses, keyboards or harddrives.
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well, if you WANT to people buy your dock, putt 2 USB's. i would buy a dock, but a dock like this needs a USB ports. so everybody could use mouses, keyboards or harddrives.
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I would love to, but the pogo pins do not support USB OTG (needed for keyboards, usb drives, etc.) That would require connecting to the micro-USB port. Also, as of now, charging while using OTG is almost non-functional. It may be possible with the Nexus 10 (6 pin pogo) but not the 7.
I'd buy it if available on Europe
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I would love to, but the pogo pins do not support USB OTG (needed for keyboards, usb drives, etc.) That would require connecting to the micro-USB port. Also, as of now, charging while using OTG is almost non-functional. It may be possible with the Nexus 10 (6 pin pogo) but not the 7.
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oh sad
I'm in for one
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Make it black though.
I'm in make like the Motorola Xoom with built in speakers as an option
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I'd personally rather not pay to have a below-par amplifier included.
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Fine then, maybe I will make one myself!.....maybe.
I just can't think of a good reliable material that doesn't require big machining tools to work with it.
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I have been searching for both a vehicle mount as well as a desktop dock for my Nexus S since I got it in December. While there have been a few 3rd party solutions trickling into existence, it's nice to see some official Samsung love! I can't post links yet, but check it out on their website: samsung.com by searching for ECS-V1A3BEGSTA or BECS-V1A3BEG (both seem to be model numbers). There currently isn't a price and if you add it to your cart it says it's on back order (for $0). But at least we know it's coming! Hope to see an official desk dock soon as well.
Also, interesting, it says it has an integrated charger (which is one thing I really want in a car mount), but I fail to see any evidence of it in the pictures. I'm curious how it works. I would also really like to see an integrated audio output, preferably (if possible) through the same micro USB connection as the charging and then allow for the 3.5mm output to split from the mount. This is what I used to do with my original MT3G and it was great to only have to make one connection to the phone.
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I have been searching for both a vehicle mount as well as a desktop dock for my Nexus S since I got it in December. While there have been a few 3rd party solutions trickling into existence, it's nice to see some official Samsung love! I can't post links yet, but check it out on their website: samsung.com by searching for ECS-V1A3BEGSTA or BECS-V1A3BEG (both seem to be model numbers). There currently isn't a price and if you add it to your cart it says it's on back order (for $0). But at least we know it's coming! Hope to see an official desk dock soon as well.
Also, interesting, it says it has an integrated charger (which is one thing I really want in a car mount), but I fail to see any evidence of it in the pictures. I'm curious how it works. I would also really like to see an integrated audio output, preferably (if possible) through the same micro USB connection as the charging and then allow for the 3.5mm output to split from the mount. This is what I used to do with my original MT3G and it was great to only have to make one connection to the phone.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECS-V1A3BEGSTA-reviews
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Nice!!! Thanks OP. Can't wait for it to go on sale. I agree, can't see how the Nexus S gets charged in the mount that's pictured.
I am very excited for this. Hopefully more accessories are coming soon!!
out of stock noooooooooooooo!
Dam should of waited, I just bought the Rocketfish mount from best buy. I'm lovin it tho! It can also be attached on the ac vents.
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Interestingly the back plate of the dock appears to have a cutout for the camera and speaker, but they are in the wrong position (wrong side in each case) given how the phone sits in the dock. I am also curious how they are going to do integrated charging. Perhaps those images aren't a final product shot.
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Nice!!! Thanks OP. Can't wait for it to go on sale. I agree, can't see how the Nexus S gets charged in the mount that's pictured.
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Most likely a Photoshop issue.
it looks like a mirrored image
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Very nice mount! I already bought the adjustable dock from Proclip because I plan to get a tough case (whenever those are released). This would be nice with anyone without a case.
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out of stock noooooooooooooo!
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It was never in stock to begin with.
It took Samsung to officially release the Galaxy S docks about 3-4 months after its release in the U.S. So I'm assuming it's going to take just as long for this dock to come out.
looks good.
I want to see this in action.
How is it going to charge the phone?
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40 bucks. Ill order it as soon as it says in stock.
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Oh 40 bucks is not bad!! I was thinking it would be more!!
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Nice!!! Thanks OP. Can't wait for it to go on sale. I agree, can't see how the Nexus S gets charged in the mount that's pictured.
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I agree with you. How is it suppose to charge when docked?
Edit: Looks great though.
These photos r fake .. note the phone's live wallpaper is not "live"
The wallpaper's light dots r in the same position in all photos
Maybe the final product will contain more details for charging etc
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Anyone notice the description changed? It's looking more like a passive holder with a non-integrated charger. Disappointed. =(
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Anyone notice the description changed? It's looking more like a passive holder with a non-integrated charger. Disappointed. =(
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Indeed, this would make more sense. I'm unsure how they would have integrated charging unless they somehow had a different back plate for the phone that would allow for conductive charging.
I'll still pick it up for $40 when it's available. It's a lot better than the the "universal" options out there. It is too bad the Nexus S doesn't have the contact/charging pins like the Nexus One did - that was a nice car dock to own (although a bit more pricey).
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The vehicle navigation mount holds your Nexus S Handset securely while you travel.The Vehicle Power Charger is included in the package. The holder has a convenient easy snap-in and a thumb release to remove the phone from the holder.
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looks sweeeet
Never felt comfortable with in-ear headset that came with Nexus S, I don't really fancy the style and comfortable just with earbuds as from time to time I want my friend to listen to the sound quality of Voodoo+FLAC in Nexus S.
Instead of the original headset, I used the one that came with my previous Motorola Milestone if I'd like to listen to music and having the option of receiving call through it......but...I needed more juice out of it. My ears and brain have been accustomed to the sound of YUIN PK3 which I have but that earbuds has no mic.
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To combine what I need sans the Kawahara cable, this is what I did to the original Samsung Nexus S headset:
Pried open the original headset
De-soldered the cable
Pried open my YUIN PK3 earbuds
Soldered back the cable
Voila!
Eargasm..... (I know......I always say that)
That's classy, throw some flacs on there and enjoy it you deserve it. Wish i was good with small wires.
Pretty cool. I also suck with small wires so I can't do it.
Off topic as well but, what case is that?
Yep..it is really small and I got a very shaky hands, I can't even draw a straight line slowly. I used helping hand to do that.
This is the review of the case:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250875
Irrelevant Question...
what case is that?
Inspired me to do the same to my Klipsch S4s. Thanks!
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Inspired me to do the same to my Klipsch S4s. Thanks!
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Yes, interested to find out too
Why do their headphones look so cheap
With the help of your write-up, I just did this exact mod and it turned out great. Thanks for the idea!
Where'd you get the red and white earbud foam?
I bought it from online shop in China, there are couple seller who sell similar on ebay, just search for "white/red earbud foam"...but I have yet to see the doughnut style color foam
Just thought I'd update on this mod.
So earlier I reported that I had replaced the cord on my Klipsch S4 headphones with the stock nexus buds.
Worked great until the stock cord had problems with the strain relief and the connection.
Overall, to anybody who uses their headphones daily, this mod isn't worth it. The stock cord is just too cheap.
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Just thought I'd update on this mod.
So earlier I reported that I had replaced the cord on my Klipsch S4 headphones with the stock nexus buds.
Worked great until the stock cord had problems with the strain relief and the connection.
Overall, to anybody who uses their headphones daily, this mod isn't worth it. The stock cord is just too cheap.
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You could just get the s4a and leave them the way they are except additional purchase of some comply tips.
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You could just get the s4a and leave them the way they are except additional purchase of some comply tips.
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I believe I'd run into the same problem with the Klipsch wires failing. If I were to get the S4s again, I would get the reference series. Already have some extra comply tips, work fantastic.
I've been looking at picking up a pair of X10is for years. I just can't justify it if they are going to break. That and they don't have android integration.
Hello
Hello, I want to ask how dismantled the Samsung original headset? With what tool? And then they can be closed or have already broken? I am interested in whether threaded or glued?
thank you
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I believe I'd run into the same problem with the Klipsch wires failing. If I were to get the S4s again, I would get the reference series. Already have some extra comply tips, work fantastic.
I've been looking at picking up a pair of X10is for years. I just can't justify it if they are going to break. That and they don't have android integration.
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I noticed the reference series are the same price as the normal s4, what's different?
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Hello, I want to ask how dismantled the Samsung original headset? With what tool? And then they can be closed or have already broken? I am interested in whether threaded or glued?
thank you
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I used long nose pliers to open it, it was glued, it can be closed again if you do it nicely, just glue it back with power glue.
I sold my NS, now using GN with the same headset...still good today.
Looks good ...still prefer my mie2i's over all hihi
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Nice work! Gotta try with my Grado's.
That looks really good, I love that cable I might just man up and try this myself.
HI! i've found some pics of the nexus 7 motherboard and some connectors seems to be unused... If you look at the "con1" (the one used for micro usb connection) it has 22 pins 0_o. Maybe we can find a hardware hack =D
More images here
We could do a "simple" (dangerous) test: HDMI has a hot plug detection pin, the only way to check is provide one pin with +5v dc and check if any other pin sends a ddc query.... but how can we find the hotplug pin (if there's any)?
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From the teardown it was pretty clear there was space for the rear camera as well as HDMI.
The IO presenters were using units with HDMI, so it was probably the same motherboard, populated.
You would have to be a hard-core hacker to want toi add your own HDMI. No idea what is missing beside header and connector. Probably not as bad as adding MHL
I am happy living without HDMI.
Maybe I will never use the hdmi connector but hacking electronical things when i have to hack biological ones every day is a nice way to spend the time xD
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Maybe I will never use the hdmi connector but hacking electronical things when i have to hack biological ones every day is a nice way to spend the time xD
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6 billion dollar men?
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6 billion dollar men?
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Nope =P 6 billion dollar mice xD
Biotech
Google also plugged the nexus 7 into some kind of docking station to project the screen onto the wall for the visitors on Google io conference..seems they have a version with video output like HDMI
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There has been an image of a Nexus 7 with a HDMI out.
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There has been an image of a Nexus 7 with a HDMI out.
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Source please
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Can't back it up right now but will frantically google to find it.. But I remember reading that it had the hardware for mhl but currently not enable in software?
but just tested my jellybeaned gnex and that works fine with mhl so not sure how much truth there is to that.
I can vouch for the photo of a Nexus 7 with an HDMI port, as well as a comment from a presenter that the special units they were using for presentations had HDMI.
No, I can not provide any links. That was thousands of pages ago...
I do not believe the Nexus 7 has the MHL chip, or any provision for it. Asus is not listed as a MHL provider.
Samsung (Nexus) is a MHL provider, so the hardware there would not be a surprise.
In that teardown review (where the OP got that image, I believe), they mistakenly said it supported HDMI out and included a picture of the HDMI cable from the nexus Q. They later retracted that comment.
That might be the source of the confusion.
There was at least one actual picture of a Nexus 7 with an HDMI port on the bottom.
I think a reviewer got their hands on a presenter's unit.
The image you're looking for is in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736916
The internel dev versions (the ones used for presentations) had mini hdmi.
So, it does make sense that theres space on the board.
Thank you for that picture link! I searched everywhere for that...
At least that is one less reason to think I have lost my mind...
I'd love to be able to solder on an sdcard slot, if that's all that's needed. It's generally pretty easy to solder to headers if you're careful about it.
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From the teardown, I don't recall seeing any space for an SD card.
Rear camera - yes, HDMI - yes, but not SD Card.
I could be mistaken...
Also, the external storage problem has been pretty much solved with a USB OTG cable and stickmount.
we could solder a slod for an additional sd card... there's enaught space to fit in a sd card without "external" access.
How in the world has this thread not been moved/locked yet? Obviously not development, and hardly an original topic.
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How in the world has this thread not been moved/locked yet? Obviously not development, and hardly an original topic.
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we're counting pins and waiting for more info =P
look here: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/KjNsrjlvHZdFWEGF.huge
we have 14 free pins and an hdmi data connection requires only 12 wires + 5v + grnd.
i'm looking for someone who can do some simple tests on the unused pins.
when i will have the nexus 7 i'll do it by myself at uni but maybe someone who have the I/O version now could do something meantime.
Looks pretty interesting to me hope we cram a sd card In there somewhere.
So I was out shopping with my wife and came across this. Thought it was pretty cool so I decided ti get it. Problem is that the base part won't fit the phone because it's too small. I'm trying to find a way to have it fit but not sure where to begin. .. any ideas? I(t's a Hype retro handset, but also included the base (or dock), which is where the issue is...
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I really like the handset part. Just had a 3 hour long conversation with my dad and it was onky toward the end that my ear started to hurt a little lol.
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what is it?
It is a retro styled device that turns your phone into a 80's style desk phone. You can either rest your phone in the base part (or dock) and connect it through the supplied 3.5mm jack or you can use the handset piece separate and also plug just that part into the 3.5mm jack.
Here I thought I was bad taking pictures :laugh:
Guess its cute but how practical is it
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Here I thought I was bad taking pictures :laugh:
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It's probably just the lighting in my man cave lol.
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Guess its cute but how practical is it
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It's something I could definitely see using at home. I had the phone in my front pocket and the handset hooked into the jack and was able to use it with no issues. The handset also has its own volume adjustment which is nice. That said, it's probably not for everyone...
It might look a bit strange carrying around the handset piece and using it in public hehe. For a relatively older guy like me (I'm 36), I grew up with these kinds of phones so it definitely appeals to me.
My sister in law just got herself the handset piece (you can buy it separate) and she likes it too.
The base (dock) will accomodate most other phones. But the Note 2 is too wide to fit the opening... so I'm trying to think of ways to either make it fit or some other solution..
Maybe this pic will help clarify...
That's my wife's Galaxy S3 in there..
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damn funny!
Any eBay link?
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So I was out shopping with my wife and came across this. Thought it was pretty cool so I decided ti get it. Problem is that the base part won't fit the phone because it's too small. I'm trying to find a way to have it fit but not sure where to begin. .. any ideas? I(t's a Hype retro handset, but also included the base (or dock), which is where the issue is...
I really like the handset part. Just had a 3 hour long conversation with my dad and it was onky toward the end that my ear started to hurt a little lol.
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Where'd you get it?
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I quick searched ebay but couldn't find the exact device.
The closest one I could find (and really nice imo) is this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Ret...256356?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4abf12bda4
I think it'll work on our phones, my only question is about that port on the back side that looks like a typical phone line port. I'm not sure what is it for, plus I cannot figure out whether the device actually charges the phone too..
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Where'd you get it?
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I got it at Bed Bath and Beyond. Funny because they don't list it on their website either. The closest thing they have listed is the handset piece itself.. http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=40088341&RN=2017&KSKU=203210&
Here's a couple box shots...
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I think it'll work on our phones, my only question is about that port on the back side that looks like a typical phone line port. I'm not sure what is it for, plus I cannot figure out whether the device actually charges the phone too..
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There is one 3.5mm female jack on the left side of the device that the handset connects to. The handset can either be connected to that, or you can connect it directly to the phone's 3.5mm jack. If you connect the handset to the device, there is a male 3.5mm jack that is used as a passthrough for the handset to connect to the phone. At the bottom of the device the hole you see is to pass a cord for a wall charger, so no, the device itself won't charge your phone. Hope that clears things up a bit.
Hello just got myself a nexus 7 and knocked myself a dock up.
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Nice craftsmanship! What material is it made of, I can't really tell from the pics.
This uses the pogo pins? If so, awesome,
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Hello,
It is made out of MDF and it does make use of the pogo pins, just charging not audio.
I have done a little more work on it to improve the shape.
After a couple of days use I have noted that if I were to do it again I would put some sort of socket for the power lead. Having it permanently attached is not so great when not charging.
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Hello,
After a couple of days use I have noted that if I were to do it again I would put some sort of socket for the power lead. Having it permanently attached is not so great when not charging.
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also maybe some felt to line the inside of the slot ? so you get a nice slide in and out and know your safe from and pressures from the mdf on certain areas?
Wow, very impressive. I will never be able to make a dock myself.
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That's nice work! Would you mind posting a view of the pins + purchase info / pinout ? I think I'd try to do something similar but out of teflon (easier to work with where I'm at with a dremel)
great job!
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That's nice work! Would you mind posting a view of the pins + purchase info / pinout ? I think I'd try to do something similar but out of teflon (easier to work with where I'm at with a dremel)
great job!
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Its actually a bit of a hack job, I just used two pieces of stiff copper wire and glued them while it was in a charging state!. However it works perfectly. The pin closest to the bottom is + and the one nearest the top is ground and the two in the middle are audio. Worth checking on google for pinout though.
Also I built this for purposes of charging while using otg adapter only to find it doesn't work, now that is a real pain! I have read up about timurs USB kernel, which allows this although not through the pogo pins. What a design flaw on google/asus part.
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cool beans. I'm looking for a dock. Not sure if I have the patience to do what you did but, it looks great regardless.
joesnose said:
Its actually a bit of a hack job, I just used two pieces of stiff copper wire and glued them while it was in a charging state!. However it works perfectly. The pin closest to the bottom is + and the one nearest the top is ground and the two in the middle are audio. Worth checking on google for pinout though.
Also I built this for purposes of charging while using otg adapter only to find it doesn't work, now that is a real pain! I have read up about timurs USB kernel, which allows this although not through the pogo pins. What a design flaw on google/asus part.
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I too was searching for charging through doc port and otg through the usb. Were you able to achieve this.
As far as i am aware its not possible
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Lego is great to construct with as well.
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Lego is great to construct with as well.
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I made a Lego dock a few weeks ago too... I got given a Nexus 7 that had a broken USB connector. Lego stand, BluTack to hold some wires, and I could charge reliably for the 3 weeks it took for a replacement USB "board" to arrive.