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Aftermarket Dock (using POGO). Would you Kickstart?

So I am usually a lurker on XDA, but I thought I'd get the community's thoughts. I'm a fellow Nexus 7 owner and I want a dock that uses the pogo pins. I'm tired of waiting for ASUS and I also happen to be a mechanical engineer that works in the consumer electronics industry. So, I've mocked up my own design. It's similar to the ASUS design and will have USB charging and audio out. The only way I could bring it to market is Kickstarter.
Before I go through that much effort (Kickstarter has revised its approval process) I want to gauge demand. The sale price would be $30. I've made a poll below to streamline things, but feel free to add comments. Rendered concept below. I am also considering adding stereo RCA outputs as well. Would you want that?
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I am also considering adding stereo RCA outputs as well. Would you want that?
|UPDATE 1|
Thanks everyone for the feedback! I'm still in the early design phase so feedback helps. To address the request for speakers: at this point it's not something I'm looking to add. It adds cost, development time and complexity. Depending on how well things go if I put it on Kickstarter, a speaker option may be considered. Also, now that I've seen there is some interest, I refined the design slightly to slim it up. See below:

Would adding some sort of HDMI out be too complicated or difficult?

adamhlj said:
Would adding some sort of HDMI out be too complicated or difficult?
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Unfortunately, the Nexus 7 doesn't have any method of outputting an HDMI signal. In fact, the pogo pins do not allow for data, just audio and charging.

Hi!
Is it easy to put a charging light on the front?
I would be interested!
Ofiaich

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Unfortunately, the Nexus 7 doesn't have any method of outputting an HDMI signal. In fact, the pogo pins do not allow for data, just audio and charging.
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Oh ok. I don't really know much about electronics. I barely passed my circuits class in college, lol.
At any rate, I have never used kickstarter, so as long as I can pledge without using paypal (we had a falling out back in 2005), I would be happy to help out with this!

Add a holo blue charging light and I'm in for one..
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I would kickstart for sure, i'd love to get my hands on one.
Nice idea, keep us updated :good:

I was close to support it but since Asus is finaly realeasing their dock, i'm unsure there is still a large market for it
jc
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3d_jc said:
I was close to support it but since Asus is finaly realeasing their dock, i'm unsure there is still a large market for it
jc
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Source???? It's WAY too late for the Xmas market. It should have been onsales 6 weeks ago to catch that....

I would kickstart it.

If you could figure out a way to make it with external speakers instead of an audio jack or (maybe I am getting ambitious here) if possible external speakers AND audio jack and I would pay the 30 dollars

jonnyg1097 said:
If you could figure out a way to make it with external speakers instead of an audio jack or (maybe I am getting ambitious here) if possible external speakers AND audio jack and I would pay the 30 dollars
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I'd personally rather not pay to have a below-par amplifier included.

well, if you WANT to people buy your dock, putt 2 USB's. i would buy a dock, but a dock like this needs a USB ports. so everybody could use mouses, keyboards or harddrives.

robox45 said:
well, if you WANT to people buy your dock, putt 2 USB's. i would buy a dock, but a dock like this needs a USB ports. so everybody could use mouses, keyboards or harddrives.
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I would love to, but the pogo pins do not support USB OTG (needed for keyboards, usb drives, etc.) That would require connecting to the micro-USB port. Also, as of now, charging while using OTG is almost non-functional. It may be possible with the Nexus 10 (6 pin pogo) but not the 7.

I'd buy it if available on Europe
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fierrogt said:
I would love to, but the pogo pins do not support USB OTG (needed for keyboards, usb drives, etc.) That would require connecting to the micro-USB port. Also, as of now, charging while using OTG is almost non-functional. It may be possible with the Nexus 10 (6 pin pogo) but not the 7.
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oh sad

I'm in for one
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Make it black though.

I'm in make like the Motorola Xoom with built in speakers as an option
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ddlooping said:
I'd personally rather not pay to have a below-par amplifier included.
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Fine then, maybe I will make one myself!.....maybe.
I just can't think of a good reliable material that doesn't require big machining tools to work with it.

Picked this up today...

So I was out shopping with my wife and came across this. Thought it was pretty cool so I decided ti get it. Problem is that the base part won't fit the phone because it's too small. I'm trying to find a way to have it fit but not sure where to begin. .. any ideas? I(t's a Hype retro handset, but also included the base (or dock), which is where the issue is...
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I really like the handset part. Just had a 3 hour long conversation with my dad and it was onky toward the end that my ear started to hurt a little lol.
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what is it?

It is a retro styled device that turns your phone into a 80's style desk phone. You can either rest your phone in the base part (or dock) and connect it through the supplied 3.5mm jack or you can use the handset piece separate and also plug just that part into the 3.5mm jack.

Here I thought I was bad taking pictures :laugh:
Guess its cute but how practical is it

IamPro said:
Here I thought I was bad taking pictures :laugh:
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It's probably just the lighting in my man cave lol.
IamPro said:
Guess its cute but how practical is it
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It's something I could definitely see using at home. I had the phone in my front pocket and the handset hooked into the jack and was able to use it with no issues. The handset also has its own volume adjustment which is nice. That said, it's probably not for everyone...
It might look a bit strange carrying around the handset piece and using it in public hehe. For a relatively older guy like me (I'm 36), I grew up with these kinds of phones so it definitely appeals to me.
My sister in law just got herself the handset piece (you can buy it separate) and she likes it too.
The base (dock) will accomodate most other phones. But the Note 2 is too wide to fit the opening... so I'm trying to think of ways to either make it fit or some other solution..

Maybe this pic will help clarify...
That's my wife's Galaxy S3 in there..
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damn funny!
Any eBay link?

diehardbattery said:
So I was out shopping with my wife and came across this. Thought it was pretty cool so I decided ti get it. Problem is that the base part won't fit the phone because it's too small. I'm trying to find a way to have it fit but not sure where to begin. .. any ideas? I(t's a Hype retro handset, but also included the base (or dock), which is where the issue is...
I really like the handset part. Just had a 3 hour long conversation with my dad and it was onky toward the end that my ear started to hurt a little lol.
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Where'd you get it?
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I quick searched ebay but couldn't find the exact device.
The closest one I could find (and really nice imo) is this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Ret...256356?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4abf12bda4
I think it'll work on our phones, my only question is about that port on the back side that looks like a typical phone line port. I'm not sure what is it for, plus I cannot figure out whether the device actually charges the phone too..

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Where'd you get it?
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I got it at Bed Bath and Beyond. Funny because they don't list it on their website either. The closest thing they have listed is the handset piece itself.. http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=40088341&RN=2017&KSKU=203210&
Here's a couple box shots...
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stormrain said:
I think it'll work on our phones, my only question is about that port on the back side that looks like a typical phone line port. I'm not sure what is it for, plus I cannot figure out whether the device actually charges the phone too..
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There is one 3.5mm female jack on the left side of the device that the handset connects to. The handset can either be connected to that, or you can connect it directly to the phone's 3.5mm jack. If you connect the handset to the device, there is a male 3.5mm jack that is used as a passthrough for the handset to connect to the phone. At the bottom of the device the hole you see is to pass a cord for a wall charger, so no, the device itself won't charge your phone. Hope that clears things up a bit.

Acrylic dock for nexus 10 and pogo cable

Hello,
After a long search on the internet to find a dock for my nexus 10 and my pogo cable, I decided to make my own.
I started by making some prototypes made with a sheet of depron and then I made my first with acrylic.
I am very happy to show you.
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The first prototypes

Wow this is sleek looking and bad ass. I actually like the clear look better than the white but both look good. How did you cut the plastic so nice? Water jet?
Great job
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Thank you very much.
I cut the plastic with a laser cutting.

noudard said:
Hello,
After a long search on the internet to find a dock for my nexus 10 and my pogo cable, I decided to make my own.
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Do you plan to produce / sell more?
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I'd send ya 20 bucks for this, of course would supply my own cable. May not make a ton of each unit but I bet lots of folks would be willing to throw a 20 down on some nice looking plastic making you a wealthy man
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Why not I can try to see if I can produce some units.

Pm me if you do!
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Looks promising!
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Why not I can try to see if I can produce some units.
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I will also be interested! One question: how do you secure the pogo cable to the stand? Is the hole just tight enough so it should stuck in there?

Yes the hole is just tight enough and it's works well.

noudard said:
Why not I can try to see if I can produce some units.
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I would be interested too. Is the cable still removable?
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newellj79 said:
I would be interested too. Is the cable still removable?
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Thanks for your interest. Yes you can, the cable still removable.

I hope you would post those internationally if you do make a few for sale cos I would love one too
Or you could be a true hero and post up the design to the forum ofc...

Very very nice... That looks really awesome....

I really think you are on to something here. I would absolutely be interested in one if you decide to produce.

I'm very interested too (I'm in Australia). I would think you could do very well selling them through Ebay or Amazon if you can produce them in quantity. :good:

Many thanks for your enthusiasm.

Simple, nice looking and functional. Is it "unmountable"? I mean, you get the pieces and put it togheter, and you can undo it? I would also be interested in this thing (15€ + shipping looks like a good price to me).
Just for help, you can ask some labs to produce this for you if you can model pieces in AutoCAD. I have seen them use the same machine they use with waveguides and PCBs, Maybe you can find some company that accepts this kind of works in metacrilate (not sure if correct word) or PCB material.
Good Luck!

I'm also very interested in the clear dock. Put it up on eBay or Etsy and I'll get in line

I work on it to improve and I will inform you soon.

Looks great
Let me know if you are making these are kits or maybe you should sell them on e-bay look great! I'd like to get one.

homemade reverse side OTG adapter.

I often use on the go adapter for usb sticks and joysticks. The problem I find is that the micro adapter justs acts as a nice lever that is going to kill my socket. So I decided to adress the problem by spreading the load while at the same time tucking it out the way. Funny that when I came into the forum there seems to be threads about making some tiny little usb/sdcard adapters, obviously the smaller the better.
My solution is not small but when I fall asleep watching a movie and me nexus ends up on the floor hopefully nothing will snap!
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It is comfortable and makes me nexus much more easy to handle while using OTG.
what's the verdict?
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Power adapter addon.
Was going to make another adapter that included a socket for charging. But infact the original adapter already allows for charging using timurs kernel. But of course I could only charge or use otg but not both. I made this addon that attaches to the original and allows power and otg.
It is quite bulky! I will probably make an all in one at some point.
As for a tutorial... well wiring diagrams for making otg cable can be found all over the web. All I did was use the stripped down to the bare bones usb plugs and sockets, covered nexus in cling film, then used some milliput (can be bought in hardware shops, like plasticine bet sets hard) to fashion the adapter. Bobs your uncle.

Looks good, and does solve that issue.
Another good idea would be a non-OTG version for charging while in use.
Either way, very nice... :thumbup:

Thanks danvee, i had been thinking of one with charging capability as i use timurs otg kernel which allows charging and otg at the same time. I had not however thought of making one that simply charged though, great idea thanks.
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Keep us posted... :thumbup:

Neat, well engineered solution.

Awesome!
I'm definitely interested in a tutorial.

Updated first post.
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Where to buy?
I am Weasl
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and you've been PAC'd by a Note 2

All information is in the OP.

joesnose said:
I often use on the go adapter for usb sticks and joysticks. The problem I find is that the micro adapter justs acts as a nice lever that is going to kill my socket. So I decided to adress the problem by spreading the load while at the same time tucking it out the way. Funny that when I came into the forum there seems to be threads about making some tiny little usb/sdcard adapters, obviously the smaller the better.
My solution is not small but when I fall asleep watching a movie and me nexus ends up on the floor hopefully nothing will snap!
It is comfortable and makes me nexus much more easy to handle while using OTG.
what's the verdict?
Update...
Power adapter addon.
Was going to make another adapter that included a socket for charging. But infact the original adapter already allows for charging using timurs kernel. But of course I could only charge or use otg but not both. I made this addon that attaches to the original and allows power and otg.
It is quite bulky! I will probably make an all in one at some point.
As for a tutorial... well wiring diagrams for making otg cable can be found all over the web. All I did was use the stripped down to the bare bones usb plugs and sockets, covered nexus in cling film, then used some milliput (can be bought in hardware shops, like plasticine bet sets hard) to fashion the adapter. Bobs your uncle.
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original. cool. I like.

Pretty cool that you've designed it to follow the curve of the tablet. I like it

Very nice. I have wondered why this doesn't exist for retail purchase...

Magnetic Charge/Sync cable

So it has already started, people are loosing and damaging their cradles already. This is going to create a need for a new cradle or another way to charge and sync the unit.
Ever since I first opened the box to my gear I wondered WTF Samsung was thinking with this cradle. There has to be a better way, and hopefully I have found one.
On the back of the watch are 2 small screws. My goal is to use 2 tiny magnets to hold a cable to the back side of the watch via these screws. This will make the cable MUCH smaller and no longer require a massive case to be carried around.
Current status:
Contacted a few companies and have a few different connectors coming in to see what will connect best.
PCB design will all depend on the connector we go with
V1 case design is already started for the housing. I will be printing a few samples out with a makerbot in a week or so and will post up
I hope to have an entire v1 test unit done within the next week or 2. I would have this done earlier but I have a massive fluid mechanics midterm tomorrow then will be heading out of town for the rest of the week for work. I should be back in town on Saturday and will be sitting in front of the makerbot and a soldering iron all day. Please stay tuned for updates.
Also all criticism is welcome, tell me what you think, the only thing I ask is to make it constructive. If you think this is a stupid idea because it will not work for some reason, let me know and why. I am a mechanical engineer with a concentration in structural analysis. I know only what I have taught myself about electronics so I admit I dont know as much as many others.

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10/31/2013
Currently working on getting sync capabilities working. I have a feeling Samsug did 1 of 2 things
1. Chip requirement like apples cables to allow sync
2. Power on data line
Either way this weekend I should be able to get the sync feature working or at least have parts on order to do so. First run on the spring loaded contact pins were pretty good, but I am going to need something longer. Once the case goes over the PCB board they will no longer be able to connect with the back of the watch. Here is what I am working with at the moment.
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How'd ya like that for a ghetto macguyver job. LOLZ
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Genshard said:
How'd ya like that for a ghetto macguyver job. LOLZ
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Points for effort !

Got the 1st set of spring pins connectors in. They work but will not be long enough once a case is designed for the unit. Back to ordering more $0.08 1/16" pins!

Try to check the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493181&page=5
Pins which You found seems to be very nice and will work well, but regarding the magnetic mounting - check if the screws are magnetic - if they are stainless steel (which they almost for sure are) they will not be magnetic... so this will not hold... the other issue is if the watch has sensors inside they may not like the strong magnetic field...

Can't wait to be able to buy one lol
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ktetreault14 said:
Can't wait to be able to buy one lol
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I think my charger just also died... Darn!!..
Better go to samsung tomorrow...
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lukasz said:
if they are stainless steel (which they almost for sure are) they will not be magnetic
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Depends, not all stainless steel is the same. Depends on the blend. Some are quite magnetic.