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[Q] Simple root for Nexus One

Noob here. I've searched the forums and have tried to piece together what I need to know for what I would like to do. I think I have a general understanding, but was hoping someone could verify or clarify.
I've got a Nexus 1 running 2.3.3. Never been rooted. All OTA updates.
What I would like is to root it so that I can delete crap like Facebook and Amazon and make room on the built-in memory. I don't want to unlock the boot-loader, and I don't want to flash custom ROMs. I do want control of what is stored where, the ability to move things to SD (even if they aren't marked for that (and yes, aware that that can cause problems sometimes)), and the ability to run Titanium backup.
As I understand it, all of that can be done with just root permission. But it seems that simple root for the N1 under 2.3.3 isn't available. Can anyone comment?
Thanks,
DT

Depends what you call simple...
Since you don't want to unlock the bootloader, you can try using the passimg method to revert to an earlier build of android, and then use any "simple root" available.
Unfortunately, a small percentage of users don't seem to be able to use the passimg method, and if you get an "main version is older" error, then it means you are among them...
Passimg method can be found in the wiki, under the unroot/restore guide (passimg method, using FRG33):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
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Good luck rooting, without trying to unlock the bootloader. It's simply not available atm I belive. Any particular reason you don't want to unlock the bootloader, beside the warranty?

root without unlocking bootloader
I'm still coming up to speed on this, so it's quite possible that I don't understand all the subtleties.
What I want to do is uninstall space-wasting preinstalled junk, and to run Titanium backup. I'm not interested (for now) in custom ROMs. I think I want to avoid unlocking the bootloader both for the warranty (a minor issue), convenience (another minor issue that could be overcome...), and because I want to retain as much of a "stock" device as possible, mostly to allow for future OTA updates. From what I've read, it sounds like a root would accomplish all that. Hence I'd rather avoid all the additional complications if a simple root were in fact available.
Thanks for the help,
DT

Unlocking the bootloader does not affect you device's ability to receive/install OTA updates, but removing "space-wasting preinstalled junk" will certainly prevent you from installing the OTA...
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efrant said:
Unlocking the bootloader does not affect you device's ability to receive/install OTA updates, but removing "space-wasting preinstalled junk" will certainly prevent you from installing the OTA...
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Totally agree. If you check the threads that were active during the OTA onslaught, many people could not install stock Gingerbread due to removing stock system apps (Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, etc...)

...but, if you have a custom recovery, you can still install the updates in a modified form.
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danger-rat said:
...but, if you have a custom recovery, you can still install the updates in a modified form.
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Really? I was unaware of that. Would you mind posting a link to an OTA (say, Gingerbread for example) that I would be able to install on a stock Froyo ROM, which I had removed say, Amazon and Facebook?
Thanks.

Thanks for the info. I hadn't thought about the OTA being affected by removal of unwanted programs.
DT

I would just passimg back to stock 2.2 and then root it with z4root
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efrant said:
Really? I was unaware of that. Would you mind posting a link to an OTA (say, Gingerbread for example) that I would be able to install on a stock Froyo ROM, which I had removed say, Amazon and Facebook?
Thanks.
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I said modified - meaning rooted, or even just having the verifications taken out of the update script...
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danger-rat said:
I said modified - meaning rooted, or even just having the verifications taken out of the update script...
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I was just asking if anyone has done this (or does this), as I would certainly love to remove apps, as long as I can install future updates as they become available. (Doing that is beyond my knowledge...) I like my stock ROM, and I would certainly remove certain apps if I know someone would provide a "modified" update.zip for a stock ROM that doesn't check if Amazon, etc are installed.
What I don't want is to flash a new ROM every time an update came out...

It is very simple. If you remove stuff from the stock rom the ota will fail.
You will then need flash the same way as you would for any of the custom roms for updates.
Or you could manually put the stuff you removed back but that is probably more work then you want to do.
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Easiest approach would probably be to take a backup of the stock image before you remove any apps, and restore it when you hear that an update is available...
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danger-rat said:
Easiest approach would probably be to take a backup of the stock image before you remove any apps, and restore it when you hear that an update is available...
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Restoring a NAND backup is essentially the same thing as flashing a new ROM, which is what I don't want to be doing. What would be good is to be able to install a modified/repacked/whatever-you-want-to-call-it OTA update file that has the check (which checks to see if apps are installed) disabled.
If it is just a line in a script that needs to be removed in an OTA, so that it will flash (with a custom recovery of course) with Amazon removed, it is surely doable, no? If it is doable, I am surprised that no one has done it for any of the updates... (at least I haven't seen any).

albundy2010 said:
It is very simple. If you remove stuff from the stock rom the ota will fail.
You will then need flash the same way as you would for any of the custom roms for updates.
Or you could manually put the stuff you removed back but that is probably more work then you want to do.
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Thanks, but my question was: is it possible to modify an OTA zip file in such a way that it disables checking for installed apps like Amazon?
This would be helpful, and I had never thought of it until danger-rat mentioned it, but I may have misunderstood his post - he was probably talking about just flashing a new ROM, but that is not what I am interested in.

Yes, it's possible.
The update script is pretty big though, so you'd have your work cut out making sure you covered everything...
The other option would be to build an restore zip, that just reinstalled the apps you remove. Just add the apps to a zip as you restore them...
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danger-rat said:
Yes, it's possible.
The update script is pretty big though, so you'd have your work cut out making sure you covered everything...
The other option would be to build an restore zip, that just reinstalled the apps you remove. Just add the apps to a zip as you restore them...
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That sounds like a good idea.
This is what I'd like to do as a test:
1) Restore a stock Froyo ROM
2) Remove the Amazon.apk (and possibly others) from my ROM and save it somewhere (and whatever other files would be needed).
3) Create an update.zip file that would place the Amazon.apk file back to the correct directory in a stock ROM (i.e., odexed).
4) Flash that update.zip
5) Flash the Gingerbread OTA and see if it works.
Would you be able to point me to a guide on how to create a flashable zip? Again, I would need to be able to do this for an odexed ROM.
Thanks.
EDIT: Nevermind. I found it here: http://www.londatiga.net/it/how-to-create-android-update-zip-package/

ameedi600 said:
I would just passimg back to stock 2.2 and then root it with z4root
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I agree this is what I did had no problems at all

Attention read before flashing official ota!!

keep in mind before anyone updates to the official jb. i suspect the official release will be patched to not allow us to return to ics. if you keep root after the update good but if you some how break root there might no be a way to get it back as of now! so be cautious before you accept update. we should at least wait for an official jb fxz if you plan on keepng root this way if you mess something up at least you will have a working phone back without root of course. again i dont know they will patch the official release to prevent downgrade but lets find out for sure to be on the safe side. i dont think were gonna get dan to make us a jb root method right away soon.....

It could be considering its small size. Those who have updated to JB OTA should install safestrap and make a backup.

cmvienneau said:
keep in mind before anyone updates to the official jb. i suspect the official release will be patched to not allow us to return to ics. if you keep root after the update good but if you some how break root there might no be a way to get it back as of now! so be cautious before you accept update. we should at least wait for an official jb fxz if you plan on keepng root this way if you mess something up at least you will have a working phone back without root of course. again i dont know they will patch the official release to prevent downgrade but lets find out for sure to be on the safe side. i dont think were gonna get dan to make us a jb root method right away soon.....
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This exactly what that was, I am no longer able to downgrade to 4.0.4 using the Atrix Utility. No biggie for me though, I'm rooted with SS3, and I have backups!
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I tried to apply update on jb leak no go... Just a heads up. Still have root. On leak.
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I'll try Flashing through Motorola online hope it works
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huatz84 said:
It could be considering its small size. Those who have updated to JB OTA should install safestrap and make a backup.
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That's not the official one... A leak update for a leak update is not the official OTA. The official package (if for some reason it is 98.4.20) will be the size of at least the 2 leak update.zips together. It is not a 10 MB change from ICS to JB. It's a 10 MB change from JB leak to JB leak.

mattlgroff said:
That's not the official one... A leak update for a leak update is not the official OTA. The official package (if for some reason it is 98.4.20) will be the size of at least the 2 leak update.zips together. It is not a 10 MB change from ICS to JB. It's a 10 MB change from JB leak to JB leak.
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Yeah..this ota is just a minor update over the leak. I think I should change my siggy after all..
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Hello friends!
I've got AT&T Atrix HD with JB leak installed, with uncomplete root (root is present but any app cannot access root!), and yesterday I've received software update (98.4.20.en.US).
Tell me please - can I flash back to ICS, or somehow in another way gain root access??

Ramonsterator said:
Hello friends!
I've got AT&T Atrix HD with JB leak installed, with uncomplete root (root is present but any app cannot access root!), and yesterday I've received software update (98.4.20.en.US).
Tell me please - can I flash back to ICS, or somehow in another way gain root access??
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I haven't tried going back to ics. But,I believe this ota block us going back. I think someone at Moto seeing what we've done here.
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huatz84 said:
I haven't tried going back to ics. But,I believe this ota block us going back. I think someone at Moto seeing what we've done here.
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I can confirm that this OTA does block you from going back too ICS. Lucky for me, I have backups, and i kept root, so I can go back by restoring one of my backups. But I think this leak OTA is pretty good, so I'm not to upset.
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PeteSeiler2010 said:
I can confirm that this OTA does block you from going back too ICS. Lucky for me, I have backups, and i kept root, so I can go back by restoring one of my backups. But I think this leak OTA is pretty good, so I'm not to upset.
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Just sent you a PM

I second PeteSeiler2010's confirmation. I installed this update and tried going back to ICS with both RSD Lite and the Atrix utility.Neither worked. Luckily though, I too had made a backup with SS3 and was able to revert back and get root again.

Nate3D said:
I second PeteSeiler2010's confirmation. I installed this update and tried going back to ICS with both RSD Lite and the Atrix utility.Neither worked. Luckily though, I too had made a backup with SS3 and was able to revert back and get root again.
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Unfortunately, I do not have any ICS backups for my phone, I must have named a JB backup as and ICS thats all I can think of...anyway, I too and hoping someone can upload an ICS backup somewhere so I too have the ability to go back to ICS if need be. Sorry for the false hope!

If any one has a backup off ICS, I would be happy to upload it my dropbox site so we all would have that to fall back on.
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PeteSeiler2010 said:
If any one has a backup off ICS, I would be happy to upload it my dropbox site so we all would have that to fall back on.
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Just to clarify for Pete.
We don't want your information stored on your phone.
1) Restore back to ICS using the "restore function" in SS3/TWRP
2) Do a Factory Data Reset in settings.... privacy..... Factory Data Reset (this will wipe all personal info from the phone).
3) After you've done a Factory Data Reset, do a backup in SS3/TWRP.
4) Zip up the folder that has the backup you just performed, and upload it to a file server somewhere.
5) Post the link in this thread.
6) Be a Hero!

ATGAdmin said:
Just to clarify for Pete.
We don't want your information stored on your phone.
1) Restore back to ICS using the "restore function" in SS3/TWRP
2) Do a Factory Data Reset in settings.... privacy..... Factory Data Reset (this will wipe all personal info from the phone).
3) After you've done a Factory Data Reset, do a backup in SS3/TWRP.
4) Zip up the folder that has the backup you just performed, and upload it to a file server somewhere.
5) Post the link in this thread.
6) Be a Hero!
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Yeah, thanks ATGAdmin for clarifying...we don't want your information, just the clean, wiped ICS backup. If anyone has one they would like to share to help bail a few of us out, it would be most excellent!

Has anyone JUST flashed the ICS system.img.ext4 and boot.img manually, wiped data, and attempted to boot?

mattlgroff said:
Has anyone JUST flashed the ICS system.img.ext4 and boot.img manually, wiped data, and attempted to boot?
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You mean flash them through Fastboot?
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PeteSeiler2010 said:
You mean flash them through Fastboot?
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Yes.
Code:
fastboot flash system system.img.ext4
fastboot flash boot boot.img

mattlgroff said:
Yes.
Code:
fastboot flash system system.img.ext4
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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I'm at work for 3 more hours, so maybe someone else can try it. If not, I will when I get home.
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Any root options for 4.4.2?

hey there,
I'm using the 2012 Version of the Nexus 7 (32GB Wifi), running Android 4.4.2 (Build KOT49H).
Am I right in thinking that there is currently NO option to safely root the device?
sorry if this is an common question, but if you're not already into the whole topic, things are a bit confusing at times. From what I saw, root tutorials mainly deal with 4.1 or 4.2?
thanks for any info
brokaaa

Check out wugfresh there is a tool you can download which is fairly easy to use. There are videos on YouTube that show you how and have links for wugfresh.
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striker59 said:
Check out wugfresh there is a tool you can download which is fairly easy to use. There are videos on YouTube that show you how and have links for wugfresh.
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I used wugfresh and it was simple. Actually more simple then rooting some of the Android phone.
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thanks, I will check that out!
quick question: how is it with future updates then? Can I upgrade to the next android version (when that comes out) having rooted with this tool?

brokaaa said:
thanks, I will check that out!
quick question: how is it with future updates then? Can I upgrade to the next android version (when that comes out) having rooted with this tool?
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If you use wugfresh's tool I believe he updates it when a new update comes out

You can also use a program called nexus tool kit... Sooo simple so use
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Chines programer have good VROOT tool, work 100%

BD619 said:
If you use wugfresh's tool I believe he updates it when a new update comes out
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all right...
another thing: can I do a backup of my data (using wugfresh's toolkit), then root and then simply restore my data (again with wugfresh), so that old savegames etc. will be present in the rooted device?
thanks again

brokaaa said:
all right...
another thing: can I do a backup of my data (using wugfresh's toolkit), then root and then simply restore my data (again with wugfresh), so that old savegames etc. will be present in the rooted device?
thanks again
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Just finished rooting. Had a little trouble with the drivers in the beginning, but the driver instructions in the toolkit solved the problem. I did restore my previous system with all app data using the toolkit, as well. Works perfectly!
thanks again for recommending this great toolkit and special thanks to WugFresh!

Alen_R said:
Chines programer have good VROOT tool, work 100%
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Malware infection and adware. No. Don't.

Will the Nexus 8 have a SD expansion slot?

Doesn't
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery twrpwhatever.img
reboot recovery
flash supersux.xx.zip in recovery
mount system
delete system/recovery-from-boot.p (if needed)
work anymore?

brizey said:
Doesn't
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery twrpwhatever.img
reboot recovery
flash supersux.xx.zip in recovery
mount system
delete system/recovery-from-boot.p (if needed)
work anymore?
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+1 i was wondering the same thing. I prefer to run these commands myself rather than use a toolkit (no offense wug!)
-Betu said:
Will the Nexus 8 have a SD expansion slot?
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I haven't heard anything about the nexus 8 but if you mean future generation nexus devices then the answer is probably no. Google has stated why they won't include external memory slots on nexus devices for several reasons. Do a quick google search.
Edit: just saw rumors of nexus 8 device.... 64 bit processor WTF!!!!! I'll have to check this out.
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brizey said:
Doesn't
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery twrpwhatever.img
reboot recovery
flash supersux.xx.zip in recovery
mount system
delete system/recovery-from-boot.p (if needed)
work anymore?
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Yes it does

brizey said:
Doesn't
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery twrpwhatever.img
reboot recovery
flash supersux.xx.zip in recovery
mount system
delete system/recovery-from-boot.p (if needed)
work anymore?
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If those aren't working for you....its your drivers in windows. It isn't seeing your nexus properly.
Always start with the command fastboot devices. And see if it lists your nexus. If not, nothing else will work either.
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kj2112 said:
If those aren't working for you....its your drivers in windows. It isn't seeing your nexus properly.
Always start with the command fastboot devices. And see if it lists your nexus. If not, nothing else will work either.
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I wasn't saying it was not working for me. I was wondering why the op thought there was something different with 4.4.2.
I pre-ordered during the io it was announced at and rooted using fastboot commands the first time I turned it on.
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xposed
root the tablet but dont put any custom roms. Used xposed modules to get the rom features onto the tablet. Most roms can be named stable but they are no match to the stability of stock google rom

Nexus 5 Auto-Updater 4.4.4 with Root Restore

Introduction
This kit is designed to update Stock rooted Nexus 5 devices to Android 4.4.4 while retaining all user data as well as root permissions. This will also work on non-rooted devices with an unlocked Bootloader.
Before you Start
# This kit is designed to update without wipe but anything is possible, so I strongly urge you
to back up all data. Also I am not liable for any lost information.
# Please configure all ADB drivers
# Place phone in Fastboot mode. Power down the device; (Press and hold Power + Volume Down)
until the device boots into Fastboot.
# Extract all files, open the Unfathomable EXE file in the provided folder and follow the prompts Carefully.
Instructions
Run the EXE. After your device reboots, boot your Nexus into recovery. TWRP recovery should boot. Select the reboot option and reboot system.
You will be prompted "Swipe to flash SuperSU". This will restore all Root permissions.
*Also in the event that your device is stuck in a bootloop, just wipe the cache and you should be good to go!
Downloads
Nexus 5 Auto Updater 4.4.4 by Unfathomable.zip
The Kit can also be downloaded at this Dev Host URL
http://d-h.st/mRY
[Nexus 5 Auto Updater 4.4.4 By Unfathomable.zip - 451.78 MB]
Other Information
The Nexus 7 Wi-Fi Auto-Updater 4.4.4 can be found at this URL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791773
XDA:DevDB Information
Nexus 5 Auto-Updater, Tool/Utility for the Google Nexus 5
Contributors
Unfathomable
Version Information
Status: Beta
Created 2014-06-29
Last Updated 2014-06-29

Got to be one of the slowest downloads for such a small file in the history of man.
Painful to say the least.

For me, almost half a gig is something other than small.

TiltedAz said:
For me, almost half a gig is something other than small.
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Still slow to download. Had faster larger files.
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@home said:
Still slow to download. Had faster larger files.
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And you're complaining in the OP's thread, why? Blame Dev-Host not them. Lol.

Not complaining, just stating a fact.
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With all do respect to opinions I would greatly appreciate if this thread is used for and remains a hub for questions and support. With that being said I have taken the liberty of uploading the file into XDA's server for downloading. Please respect my wishes as I have taken my own personal time to provide the community with this tool and many more to come. Thank you all! If you have any concerns, feedback or need support please feel free to contact me at [email protected].
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Thanks for do us a easy way to update to v4.4.4 with stock rom! :good:

Just want to thank the op for making it so easy

It's a good idea but a little long winded when you can just flash a rooted stock ROM.zip via recovery.
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Hello guys,
I am a newbie in this. I have Nexus 5 with Stock rooted 4.4.2. Will this method work for me to update to 4.4.4?
Thank you!

miserableboy said:
Hello guys,
I am a newbie in this. I have Nexus 5 with Stock rooted 4.4.2. Will this method work for me to update to 4.4.4?
Thank you!
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Yes, it is not a requirement to be running 4.4.3. Let me know if you have any difficulties.

Out of Memory
I'm getting "error: out of memory" shortly after the update starts. It sends and writes the bootloader then reboots into the bootloader and gives me the error. What am I doing wrong?

ddukatz said:
I'm getting "error: out of memory" shortly after the update starts. It sends and writes the bootloader then reboots into the bootloader and gives me the error. What am I doing wrong?
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A couple troubleshooting methods to help with your issue. First try booting into the recovery and wiping cache. Also try using a different USB cable as well as a different port. If this does not resolve your issue please contact me and I will find a resolution.
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Unfathomable said:
A couple troubleshooting methods to help with your issue. First try booting into the recovery and wiping cache. Also try using a different USB cable as well as a different port. If this does not resolve your issue please contact me and I will find a resolution.
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Same thing here. Already wiped cache but no memory message appears.

Unfathomable said:
A couple troubleshooting methods to help with your issue. First try booting into the recovery and wiping cache. Also try using a different USB cable as well as a different port. If this does not resolve your issue please contact me and I will find a resolution.
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Not sure which one but one of these things fixed it for me.
Thanks!

ddukatz said:
Not sure which one but one of these things fixed it for me.
Thanks!
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Thank you for bringing the issue to my attention, and no problem I'm glad I was able to help.

I also don't want to offend the developer as he did spend a lot of time on this. I do respect him, but I wanted to share my opinion. The last couple of OTA's I just downloaded the update straight from the OTA thread to my phone, I then flashed them in TWRP. I didn't loose TWRP and it even gives an option to install SuperSU binaries if it doesn't see them.
However, I do want to stay on topic. I'm curious, for people who use xposed, would this tool allow an update without needing to uninstall modules? I'm just trying to see the differences between your method and flashing an OTA. Also, would people with custom kernels be able to update as well? If they can, then this would prove useful for those with custom kernels.
Again, I don't mean to offend the OP. I'm just curious about the differences/benefits.

PsychDrummer said:
I also don't want to offend the developer as he did spend a lot of time on this. I do respect him, but I wanted to share my opinion. The last couple of OTA's I just downloaded the update straight from the OTA thread to my phone, I then flashed them in TWRP. I didn't loose TWRP and it even gives an option to install SuperSU binaries if it doesn't see them.
However, I do want to stay on topic. I'm curious, for people who use xposed, would this tool allow an update without needing to uninstall modules? I'm just trying to see the differences between your method and flashing an OTA. Also, would people with custom kernels be able to update as well? If they can, then this would prove useful for those with custom kernels.
Again, I don't mean to offend the OP. I'm just curious about the differences/benefits.
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It flashes the image not an OTA
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rootSU said:
It flashes the image not an OTA
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Oh ok. That would make sense why the file is so big. So then, isn't this basically deleting the -w from the batch file and flashing normally? Well and retaining root.

NEXUS 6 OTA Question

Hello XDA, I recently rooted / unlocked my N6. I used WugFresh NRT to do so. However, I did not like the process of rooting so I (using NRT) flashed stock + unrooted and then factory reset followed by an OEM lock. Reading about lollipops new way of OTA, can I perform OTAs? Or is it too late?
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Hi,
As long as you are now stock, no system partition changes and Stock recovery, you should get and be able to install an OTA.
But, I don't own the device, so I'll have your thread moved to your device section in case there's something I don't know about the N6 in particular.
Good luck!

Thanks! I'm a newb to this whole technology stuff. My first nexus device as well. I soft bricked it too while attempting to remove a ROM.
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TheSkillfulTroll said:
Thanks! I'm a newb to this whole technology stuff. My first nexus device as well. I soft bricked it too while attempting to remove a ROM.
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Not sure if this is of any value to you but considering the device apps are similar it may be used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/stock-checker-zip-prepare-ota-t2927865

Oh to be honest I'm done with rooting for now. Ill wait till 5.0.2 comes out if I OTA good then great but if it fails (hopefully ill still be able to access phone if it does) I'll then flash and root. Hopefully its not the latter
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Oh to be honest I'm done with rooting for now. Ill wait till 5.0.2 comes out if I OTA good then great but if it fails (hopefully ill still be able to access phone if it does) I'll then flash and root. Hopefully its not the latter
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If your completely stock and unrooted their is nothing to worry about. You will indeed get updates.

Even with lollipops new way of checking?
They check blocks
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if you are rooted and on TWRP. Just download the 5.0.1 image. Extract it till you see the system.img and boot.img. Also download twrp and run
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
I then reboot and then run
fastboot flash recovery whateverthefilefortwrpis.img
after that restart to system and twrp will ask if you want to install supersu. I let it install and now i'm on 5.0.1. Everything is intact and no wipe is required.

I don't think you quite understand what I am asking... I had 5.0.1 , I rooted and unlocked using NRT. I installed a ROM, didn't like it and attempted to remove. At the attempt to remove it, I screwed up and the setup wizard wouldn't start, so I FORCE FLASHED USING NRT Stock and unrooted. This allowed me to start the phone and use it, I factory reset then relocked the OEM. I do not want to root nor unlock, I am asking if that, after these events, and lollipops new way of OTA, will I be able to update via OTAs?
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What is the new way lollipop handles OTA's?
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Back then, it used to check file by file which was easily avoidable. Now, it checks a whole block of a partition, if it sees something as small a byte changed, it aborts. You can read more NY just googling Nexus 6 OTA root.
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Back then, it used to check file by file which was easily avoidable. Now, it checks a whole block of a partition, if it sees something as small a byte changed, it aborts. You can read more NY just googling Nexus 6 OTA root.
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It's not hard to understand, actually quite simple. If you have flashed the stock image then there is nothing to worry about and there is no need for assumptions. Yes, you will receive OTAs. No need for the "what if" and "how about," if you aren't willing to accept an answer, don't ask a question.

If you're 100% stock then you will get ota.

Oh okay, thanks for the help! Once 5.0.2 rolls out, if it does not work, I'll just have to do it within NRT
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