[Q] Simple root for Nexus One - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Noob here. I've searched the forums and have tried to piece together what I need to know for what I would like to do. I think I have a general understanding, but was hoping someone could verify or clarify.
I've got a Nexus 1 running 2.3.3. Never been rooted. All OTA updates.
What I would like is to root it so that I can delete crap like Facebook and Amazon and make room on the built-in memory. I don't want to unlock the boot-loader, and I don't want to flash custom ROMs. I do want control of what is stored where, the ability to move things to SD (even if they aren't marked for that (and yes, aware that that can cause problems sometimes)), and the ability to run Titanium backup.
As I understand it, all of that can be done with just root permission. But it seems that simple root for the N1 under 2.3.3 isn't available. Can anyone comment?
Thanks,
DT

Depends what you call simple...
Since you don't want to unlock the bootloader, you can try using the passimg method to revert to an earlier build of android, and then use any "simple root" available.
Unfortunately, a small percentage of users don't seem to be able to use the passimg method, and if you get an "main version is older" error, then it means you are among them...
Passimg method can be found in the wiki, under the unroot/restore guide (passimg method, using FRG33):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
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Good luck rooting, without trying to unlock the bootloader. It's simply not available atm I belive. Any particular reason you don't want to unlock the bootloader, beside the warranty?

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I'm still coming up to speed on this, so it's quite possible that I don't understand all the subtleties.
What I want to do is uninstall space-wasting preinstalled junk, and to run Titanium backup. I'm not interested (for now) in custom ROMs. I think I want to avoid unlocking the bootloader both for the warranty (a minor issue), convenience (another minor issue that could be overcome...), and because I want to retain as much of a "stock" device as possible, mostly to allow for future OTA updates. From what I've read, it sounds like a root would accomplish all that. Hence I'd rather avoid all the additional complications if a simple root were in fact available.
Thanks for the help,
DT

Unlocking the bootloader does not affect you device's ability to receive/install OTA updates, but removing "space-wasting preinstalled junk" will certainly prevent you from installing the OTA...
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efrant said:
Unlocking the bootloader does not affect you device's ability to receive/install OTA updates, but removing "space-wasting preinstalled junk" will certainly prevent you from installing the OTA...
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Totally agree. If you check the threads that were active during the OTA onslaught, many people could not install stock Gingerbread due to removing stock system apps (Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, etc...)

...but, if you have a custom recovery, you can still install the updates in a modified form.
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danger-rat said:
...but, if you have a custom recovery, you can still install the updates in a modified form.
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Really? I was unaware of that. Would you mind posting a link to an OTA (say, Gingerbread for example) that I would be able to install on a stock Froyo ROM, which I had removed say, Amazon and Facebook?
Thanks.

Thanks for the info. I hadn't thought about the OTA being affected by removal of unwanted programs.
DT

I would just passimg back to stock 2.2 and then root it with z4root
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efrant said:
Really? I was unaware of that. Would you mind posting a link to an OTA (say, Gingerbread for example) that I would be able to install on a stock Froyo ROM, which I had removed say, Amazon and Facebook?
Thanks.
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I said modified - meaning rooted, or even just having the verifications taken out of the update script...
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danger-rat said:
I said modified - meaning rooted, or even just having the verifications taken out of the update script...
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I was just asking if anyone has done this (or does this), as I would certainly love to remove apps, as long as I can install future updates as they become available. (Doing that is beyond my knowledge...) I like my stock ROM, and I would certainly remove certain apps if I know someone would provide a "modified" update.zip for a stock ROM that doesn't check if Amazon, etc are installed.
What I don't want is to flash a new ROM every time an update came out...

It is very simple. If you remove stuff from the stock rom the ota will fail.
You will then need flash the same way as you would for any of the custom roms for updates.
Or you could manually put the stuff you removed back but that is probably more work then you want to do.
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Easiest approach would probably be to take a backup of the stock image before you remove any apps, and restore it when you hear that an update is available...
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danger-rat said:
Easiest approach would probably be to take a backup of the stock image before you remove any apps, and restore it when you hear that an update is available...
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Restoring a NAND backup is essentially the same thing as flashing a new ROM, which is what I don't want to be doing. What would be good is to be able to install a modified/repacked/whatever-you-want-to-call-it OTA update file that has the check (which checks to see if apps are installed) disabled.
If it is just a line in a script that needs to be removed in an OTA, so that it will flash (with a custom recovery of course) with Amazon removed, it is surely doable, no? If it is doable, I am surprised that no one has done it for any of the updates... (at least I haven't seen any).

albundy2010 said:
It is very simple. If you remove stuff from the stock rom the ota will fail.
You will then need flash the same way as you would for any of the custom roms for updates.
Or you could manually put the stuff you removed back but that is probably more work then you want to do.
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Thanks, but my question was: is it possible to modify an OTA zip file in such a way that it disables checking for installed apps like Amazon?
This would be helpful, and I had never thought of it until danger-rat mentioned it, but I may have misunderstood his post - he was probably talking about just flashing a new ROM, but that is not what I am interested in.

Yes, it's possible.
The update script is pretty big though, so you'd have your work cut out making sure you covered everything...
The other option would be to build an restore zip, that just reinstalled the apps you remove. Just add the apps to a zip as you restore them...
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danger-rat said:
Yes, it's possible.
The update script is pretty big though, so you'd have your work cut out making sure you covered everything...
The other option would be to build an restore zip, that just reinstalled the apps you remove. Just add the apps to a zip as you restore them...
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That sounds like a good idea.
This is what I'd like to do as a test:
1) Restore a stock Froyo ROM
2) Remove the Amazon.apk (and possibly others) from my ROM and save it somewhere (and whatever other files would be needed).
3) Create an update.zip file that would place the Amazon.apk file back to the correct directory in a stock ROM (i.e., odexed).
4) Flash that update.zip
5) Flash the Gingerbread OTA and see if it works.
Would you be able to point me to a guide on how to create a flashable zip? Again, I would need to be able to do this for an odexed ROM.
Thanks.
EDIT: Nevermind. I found it here: http://www.londatiga.net/it/how-to-create-android-update-zip-package/

ameedi600 said:
I would just passimg back to stock 2.2 and then root it with z4root
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I agree this is what I did had no problems at all

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frg83 unlocked boot loader now stuck.

Will rage thee cage method work now that my n1 us unlocked?
Is there a noobs guide to rage the cage? Also I haven't done much research on the radio. Would I need to download something for it? I'm lost as hell. THNKS FRG83
It will still work, but if you're unlocked it's pointless. Flash a custom recovery and use that in install a rooted update.zip (ChainsDD)
The Wiki is a good start, too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One
Not sure that there's much on the rage, though
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Rusty! said:
It will still work, but if you're unlocked it's pointless. Flash a custom recovery and use that in install a rooted update.zip (ChainsDD)
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I flashed amon-ra's recovery and once I rebooted I got an android with a "!". The guide I used was on nexusonefourums. It said that if I got that symmbol that I was not rooted. I used modacos frf91 superboot to root. I was told it'd work. Apparently not.
O and now my wifi doesn't work at all. It just says error under settings-wireless.
Easiest way to see if you have root is to download a flashlight app from the market that requires root, and see if it works.
I always understood that the exclamation android guy was because you had stock recovery (I'm sure someone will correct me).
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(I'm sure someone will correct me).
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No need, you're spot on. Unless you remove a couple of files, the stock recovery is re-installed.
Thanks for that!
It's been so long since I've seen the lil' exclamation bugger, that I've forgot why he appears!
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danger-rat said:
The Wiki is a good start, too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One
Not sure that there's much on the rage, though
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There is. "Root FRG33/83 without unlock" contains the thread with the explanation, and "SuperOneClick root app" is simple to use. Both in "Guides".
To the OP: Read the Wiki, for God's sake. The questions here come over and over again, and the interesting threads and questions all get lost in the maze of "how to root my phone". There's a guide for flashing recovery, read under "Recovery", and it says - "for unlocked bootloaders". That would save you the trouble of trying to root through rageagainstthecage method, because with unlocked bootloader you don't need any of that. There's also a guide, called "Flashing custom ROMs", at "Guides and Tutorials". That would cover everything you need.
N1 torch asked for super user permission and the full brightness is now working. It wouldnt work without root. So im rooted.... hate to ask it but.... now what? do amon-ra again?
Looking to add CyMod... and whats the deal on the updating my radio? do i need to? I hate being ignorant, but I gotta ask to learn.. Or I could brick my 500 dollar phone.
Pretty sure you're still on stock recovery, so yes, flash Amon Ra or Clockworkmod (if you're on an SLCD screen, only Amon 1.8 or 1.9 will work).
The wiki has instructions, or use Clockworkmod ROM Manager (but read the wiki either way).
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Good heads up danger-rat. Downloads most recent radio and updated. I used rom manager and flashed most recent clockwork recovery. Now my next problem is getting cyanogenmod to download through Tom manager. It got 95% complete and said "rom download error. Google Apps: (outside link I can't post because of being a new member)" in my notifications.
Found a manual download site for gapps hdpi. Hopefully I can install it correctly
Try here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?/files/category/2-nexus-one/
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm well rooted with restored GApps. Running CM6. One question though...
My age of conquest apps says that I have not purchased a license and now closes. I have emailed the app developer and haven't gotten a response. Any solution? I have uninstalled and redownloaded and still no fix.
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Dev Server OTA File: USE CAUTION IF YOU'RE ROOTED

POST REMOVED.
I'd like to apologize for posting this update which had previously been available to soak test members and not in wide release. The file was not altered in any way or distributed with any intent of causing harm to Motorola or Verizon.
It was a bad judgment call in posting it for others to use. I was excited at the prospect of bug fixes and feature improvements to what is an otherwise fantastic phone.
That is all. Nothing to see here. Move along.
so have you flashed it?
Does it fix any of the known issues like camera app and so forth
So what exactly is this? A leaked OTA essentially?
So after looking through this file, I placed it on my sdcard, and patched through recovery (power + x).
I was basically reset to stock:
- De-rooted
- Made sure I had all my bloatware back
- Wiped user/cache (this was probably unnecessary but i was all messed up from doing the OTA hacking anyway)
The patch has fixes for many items:
- BP upgrade for the Radio
- Talk2 for Video
- Boot.img patch
- Recovery.img patch
- Various patches to alot of system files
- And some stupid bloatware patches as well.
User's beware if you also want to patch this file. Be sure to be as close to stock as you can get.
scottml said:
So after looking through this file, I placed it on my sdcard, and patched through recovery (power + x).
I was basically reset to stock:
- De-rooted
- Made sure I had all my bloatware back
- Wiped user/cache (this was probably unnecessary but i was all messed up from doing the OTA hacking anyway)
The patch has fixes for many items:
- BP upgrade for the Radio
- Talk2 for Video
- Boot.img patch
- Recovery.img patch
- Various patches to alot of system files
- And some stupid bloatware patches as well.
User's beware if you also want to patch this file. Be sure to be as close to stock as you can get.
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Were you able to re-root after flashing?
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scottml said:
So after looking through this file, I placed it on my sdcard, and patched through recovery (power + x).
I was basically reset to stock:
- De-rooted
- Made sure I had all my bloatware back
- Wiped user/cache (this was probably unnecessary but i was all messed up from doing the OTA hacking anyway)
The patch has fixes for many items:
- BP upgrade for the Radio
- Talk2 for Video
- Boot.img patch
- Recovery.img patch
- Various patches to alot of system files
- And some stupid bloatware patches as well.
User's beware if you also want to patch this file. Be sure to be as close to stock as you can get.
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This sounds like the OTA that is being pushed to D3 owners that are in Motorola's soak group. Radio fixes and whatnot for battery life purposes. I could be wrong though.
buckmarble said:
Were you able to re-root after flashing?
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this is the real question that matters atm until we have a custom recovery.
buckmarble said:
Were you able to re-root after flashing?
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Million dollar question. I want the updated gtalk when I get my replacement D3 tomorrow. I'll be completely stock so I'll be good to go on this as long as the same root exploit exists. I can't imagine they had time to remove it though.
You can re-root using the same exploit.
Androidsims said:
Million dollar question. I want the updated gtalk when I get my replacement D3 tomorrow. I'll be completely stock so I'll be good to go on this as long as the same root exploit exists. I can't imagine they had time to remove it though.
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Done lol, I just took the apk out of the update and installed right over the existing. You also need the libtalk_jni.so from there and out it in the syste/lib folder and you are all set new gtalk with video
So I have another question, if all that is modified is that fact that it has been rooted, what is wrong with flashing this while rooted? Wont it just unroot us at worse and we will have to reroot? Just trying to understand.
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Has anyone tried flashing this while rooted? With no other mods.
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buckmarble said:
Has anyone tried flashing this while rooted? With no other mods.
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Just did. You will need to reroot.
Will this fix a softbrick if you can get into recovery? Any thoughts?
I would imagine the update would fail. If you modified the phone to the point of bricking, I doubt the update would run.
Works great. Already seems faster. Battery reports less for cell standby and phone idle. Either the reporting is better or they fixed the issue.
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buckmarble said:
Has anyone tried flashing this while rooted? With no other mods.
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I've been trying for a while to get this flashed. Even went so far as to reinstall bloat that I had deleted before to see if that would work and it's giving me the same error every time.
I have some really good news, I soft bricked my phone a little while ago because I was an idiot with deleting my apps. I needed my phone and was going to activate the insurance and pay the deductible when I figured I might as well try this. I wiped the cache and data and applied this through the recovery mode and My phone is fully operational now. I can access my contacts, texts, setup accounts and not one force close yet. Now for disclosure I am probably very lucky this worked for me, try at your own risk. I am way to scared to try and delete apps again until I get a proper backup or I see enough people try it themselves with no issues. But to OP... Thank you very much you just saved me $100
edit: Found one glitch, dont know if its my specific phone or not. But if wifi is on and you receive an e-mail the notification light will not go on, if wifi is off it will... Very minor bug though.
So won't this update be available automatically? How does it work with motorola?
So I must be an idiot or something. I put the file on the root of the sd card and then booted into recovery. It gave me an error. Said can not mount sdcard file or directory doesn't exist.
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[Root] How to Root Nexus 4! [Windows + Mac][Video]

Here's is a guide to show you how to root your Nexus 4 for both Windows and Mac! (Yes, there are other guides on XDA, but they don't show you step by step and for both Windows and Mac.)
THIS WILL DO A FACTORY RESET ON YOUR PHONE!!
Guide for Windows:
All FILES and STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTION FOR WINDOWS ROOTING METHOD HERE (also includes pictures for each step):
http://www.androidrootz.com/2012/11/how-to-root-nexus-4-on-windows.html
Guide for Mac:
All FILES and STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTION FOR MAC ROOTING METHOD HERE (also includes pictures for each step):
http://www.androidrootz.com/2012/11/how-to-root-nexus-4-on-mac.html
Yes, this does give you the official ClockworkMod Recovery for Nexus 4!
Feel free to ask questions, I will try to respond to as many as I can.​
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enviii said:
Video links don't seem to be working.
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Use this link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FoKdqlQ7G4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Is there any rooting method that doesn't do the factory reset?
I am asking cause factory reset messed up the secure element of my last phone.
Thanks for the walk through. Took 2 or 3 tries, but I got it rooted.
koolbon said:
Is there any rooting method that doesn't do the factory reset?
I am asking cause factory reset messed up the secure element of my last phone.
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No a factory reset must be done. That it is why it's better to root your phone right after you get it in the mail.
I've just added this guide to the Nexus 4 Complete Index
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Thank you for the Guide, successfully rooted here!
OTA updates
Will this allow me to use OTA updates through OTA. I have a unlocked HTC sensation 4G, The nexus 4 is for my GF ( yea I know im a good BF i brought her the phone not myself) anyways lol. I just want to root it for Titanium backup no custom roms...maybe a UI when they make one for it since she doesnt know android, but just need to know whether i can OTA
Dungo212 said:
Will this allow me to use OTA updates through OTA. I have a unlocked HTC sensation 4G, The nexus 4 is for my GF ( yea I know im a good BF i brought her the phone not myself) anyways lol. I just want to root it for Titanium backup no custom roms...maybe a UI when they make one for it since she doesnt know android, but just need to know whether i can OTA
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Soon as I finished mine up I got the update notification for the OTA update.. Would like to know also..
Dungo212 said:
Will this allow me to use OTA updates through OTA. I have a unlocked HTC sensation 4G, The nexus 4 is for my GF ( yea I know im a good BF i brought her the phone not myself) anyways lol. I just want to root it for Titanium backup no custom roms...maybe a UI when they make one for it since she doesnt know android, but just need to know whether i can OTA
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You will get notified when you have an OTA update available but when you try to update your phone it will not work. So...no.
Just to be clear this only adds root to stock rom right and doesn't delete it? Is there a way to make a complete backup before rooting as that deletes all data?
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otariq said:
Just to be clear this only adds root to stock rom right and doesn't delete it? Is there a way to make a complete backup before rooting as that deletes all data?
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Yes, this will root your stock ROM. And no, there isn't anyway as far as I know. Root is needed to make a complete backup.
Okay thanks thats fine as long as I can backup the stock rom I'm happy
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This was nice and easy - i work part time on a mac, and don't know my way around nearly as well. Thanks for putting this together OP
if i want cwm touch recovery can i just download that and replace it with the recovery in the rootnexus4 folder and type that name in the command prompt?
stuck on the android logo with the warning sign. Any suggestions?
techfanatic9 said:
You will get notified when you have an OTA update available but when you try to update your phone it will not work. So...no.
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That's interesting.... So basically the root of N4 WILL PREVENT many future upgrade?
I rooted my Nexus 7 and use an app called Voodoo OTA RootKeeper from Google Play to protect the root. When OTA update comes, I updates my N7, lose root, use the app, root back. Done this for 4.2 and 4.2.1.
otariq said:
if i want cwm touch recovery can i just download that and replace it with the recovery in the rootnexus4 folder and type that name in the command prompt?
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Yes
otariq said:
Just to be clear this only adds root to stock rom right and doesn't delete it? Is there a way to make a complete backup before rooting as that deletes all data?
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save imp files on your pc

Root Xperia Z and still get OTA?

Hi. New to Xperia phone, coming from S3. So far loving it! just wondering if I can root and still have the option to get OTA from Sony? Don't want to loose bravia engine 2 (yet) so only need root to remove som bloatwares and install some apps. Also, if that is possible to get OTA with root, will updating the phone remove root?
Thanks!
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UnLucky12 said:
Hi. New to Xperia phone, coming from S3. So far loving it! just wondering if I can root and still have the option to get OTA from Sony? Don't want to loose bravia engine 2 (yet) so only need root to remove som bloatwares and install some apps. Also, if that is possible to get OTA with root, will updating the phone remove root?
Thanks!
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Use pro features of SuperSU or OTA Rootkeeper to protect your root, then when you OTA update you should be fine. Try not to modify anything in the System partition otherwise OTA will probably fail (is my understanding), or if you do (i.e. renaming various apks/odex files to .bak), make sure you put them back before OTA updating, in case they need to be patched.
Thanks for the reply! I was only thinking of installing adaway, also the whitecontroll mod to the Xperia. How do I then remove them like the whitecontroll app witch is intergrated in to the system?
If it removes root, I can always reroot the device
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UnLucky12 said:
Thanks for the reply! I was only thinking of installing adaway, also the whitecontroll mod to the Xperia. How do I then remove them like the whitecontroll app witch is intergrated in to the system?
If it removes root, I can always reroot the device
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I'm not sure about the WB control, I imagine that would likely prevent OTA due to libs inserted in to /system, perhaps if you were to perform the installation manually, take note of all files inserted, and backup any (if any) files it overwrites you could restore it before OTA.
As for AdAway, it only changes your host file, which shouldn't affect OTA, since I doubt Sony will make any changes to it OTA, but AdAway can be "undone" from within the app, so you can do that easily anyway.
It's hard to say really and depends on the OTA, but generally, from my experience, if the OTA contains a patch for a particular file, it will MD5 it, and if that fails, OTA will fail, if you have modified files that aren't patched as part of the OTA you shouldn't have a problem.
That said, I have little experience with Sony OTA files, and without looking at the script for any particular OTA you can never tell what they might check or change.
The only recommendation I can give really, is that if you want to OTA, change as LITTLE as possible in the /system partition, and make sure to revert any changes before attempting to apply an OTA.
If that is too much effort, and all you're really concerned about is you data, use Titanium Backup to keep everything safe, modify anything you want in system, then flash a stock ROM before you OTA update. You could also just flash a stock system partition, perhaps from a nandroid? before you OTA, and that should also solve the problem.
As you don't unlock your bootloader you're safe.
But OTA doesn't always works even in locked bootloader, tried yesterday to OTA update my locked bootloader Xperia T to .140 fw but it failed because of root, even after unroot with superSU option it failed.
Backup everything, update with SUS or PCC and reroot with binary tool using goroh_kun exploit included in the tool..
alias_neo said:
I'm not sure about the WB control, I imagine that would likely prevent OTA due to libs inserted in to /system, perhaps if you were to perform the installation manually, take note of all files inserted, and backup any (if any) files it overwrites you could restore it before OTA.
As for AdAway, it only changes your host file, which shouldn't affect OTA, since I doubt Sony will make any changes to it OTA, but AdAway can be "undone" from within the app, so you can do that easily anyway.
It's hard to say really and depends on the OTA, but generally, from my experience, if the OTA contains a patch for a particular file, it will MD5 it, and if that fails, OTA will fail, if you have modified files that aren't patched as part of the OTA you shouldn't have a problem.
That said, I have little experience with Sony OTA files, and without looking at the script for any particular OTA you can never tell what they might check or change.
The only recommendation I can give really, is that if you want to OTA, change as LITTLE as possible in the /system partition, and make sure to revert any changes before attempting to apply an OTA.
If that is too much effort, and all you're really concerned about is you data, use Titanium Backup to keep everything safe, modify anything you want in system, then flash a stock ROM before you OTA update. You could also just flash a stock system partition, perhaps from a nandroid? before you OTA, and that should also solve the problem.
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So I can make a nandroid backup with only root? Using Rom Manager app. Or do I need to unlock the bootlocker? If I can, then I can just recover from nandroid that are stock, update then backup again, change systemlibs etc?
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babylonbwoy said:
As you don't unlock your bootloader you're safe.
But OTA doesn't always works even in locked bootloader, tried yesterday to OTA update my locked bootloader Xperia T to .140 fw but it failed because of root, even after unroot with superSU option it failed.
Backup everything, update with SUS or PCC and reroot with binary tool using goroh_kun exploit included in the tool..
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I see! Hmmm. But SUS?
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UnLucky12 said:
I see! Hmmm. But SUS?
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I believe SUS is Sony Update Service.
Technically, you should be able to nandroid with recovery for locked bootloader then restore system before OTA, but if Sony OTA checks somehow prevent it because of an md5 on the entire partition or some such, you will have to re flash a totally stock System, perhaps a custom FTF(?), update then root again.
Next time we get an OTA I'll test the process myself, but until then I can only speculate. Hopefully someone else has more concrete information.
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I believe SUS is Sony Update Service.
Technically, you should be able to nandroid with recovery for locked bootloader then restore system before OTA, but if Sony OTA checks somehow prevent it because of an md5 on the entire partition or some such, you will have to re flash a totally stock System, perhaps a custom FTF(?), update then root again.
Next time we get an OTA I'll test the process myself, but until then I can only speculate. Hopefully someone else has more concrete information.
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Thanks man! But Stock rom for the XZ. How or where can I download it? Supposed to use SUS or PCC? What is best?
Sorry for being such a noob. Don't want to totally destroy my phone hehe.
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UnLucky12 said:
Thanks man! But Stock rom for the XZ. How or where can I download it? Supposed to use SUS or PCC? What is best?
Sorry for being such a noob. Don't want to totally destroy my phone hehe.
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No problem, I, and I imagine others prefer to answer questions from cautious users than those all gung-ho, brick their devices then come crying for help. Ask first, flash later
As for which tool, I hope someone else can comment, I've always been a Samsung man until now so I've never used either tool yet.
As for stock firmwares, there are loads in the Dev section. Just pick the right one and flash it however they recommend.
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No problem, I, and I imagine others prefer to answer questions from cautious users than those all gung-ho, brick their devices then come crying for help. Ask first, flash later
As for which tool, I hope someone else can comment, I've always been a Samsung man until now so I've never used either tool yet.
As for stock firmwares, there are loads in the Dev section. Just pick the right one and flash it however they recommend.
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Yeah, and thanks for the help Hope your answers will also help other that also wonders about the same thing
Arent there a program or website to download the official firmwares? Or using SUS automatically update it to stock?
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UnLucky12 said:
Yeah, and thanks for the help Hope your answers will also help other that also wonders about the same thing
Arent there a program or website to download the official firmwares? Or using SUS automatically update it to stock?
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I believe so. Buy don't quote me on that, like I said, never used it.
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It's the same if you use Sony Update Service or PC Compagnon, PCC contain other tool, while SUS only update. Also you can use Flashtool by Androxyde (here on XDA) to flash firmware converted in ftf format. Sony also relased it's own tool named flashtool to flash unlocked bootloader mobile because you can't use SUS/PCC when it's unlocked.
Read this thread "All the info you need before you begin" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153167

[Q] [q] deleted Verizon apps, can't apply ota

how do I get the apps back and put them in system folder?
thanks
I was reading another thread last night where someone had dumped all of the moto x files. The links in this thread are dead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ump-download-wallpapers-t2388941/post44198668) but someone in the thread mentioned that googling motoxdump.zip found a working google drive link. I guess you could try to extract the apps you're missing... Next time you may just want to freeze the apps instead of deleting them completely.
There are MANY threads and posts about getting back to stock to take an OTA already, but...
Short answer, you could download the SBF for the rom version you are on from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
Unzip it.
Use mFastboot to flash the system.img onto your phone.
You will also need to make sure you have the stock recovery.
If you have a locked bootloader, and take 4.4.2 update, there are many cautions...
You might retain root during the OTA, but write protection will be come re-enabled (i.e. you'll lose the effect of MotoWpNoMO), so any changes you make to /system or the like wont be retained after power off/on (aka hard boot).
There is no process for locked bootloader to disable Write Protection while on 4.4.2.
If you lose root, there is no way to root 4.4.2. Flashing back to previous roms may or may not work, and can cause your phone to brick.
But if you have an UNLOCKED bootloader, the same process to root previously (flash twrp, boot into it, install SuperSU from there) works to root all versions, including 4.4.2
KidJoe said:
There are MANY threads and posts about getting back to stock to take an OTA already, but...
Short answer, you could download the SBF for the rom version you are on from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
Unzip it.
Use mFastboot to flash the system.img onto your phone.
You will also need to make sure you have the stock recovery.
If you have a locked bootloader, and take 4.4.2 update, there are many cautions...
You might retain root during the OTA, but write protection will be come re-enabled (i.e. you'll lose the effect of MotoWpNoMO), so any changes you make to /system or the like wont be retained after power off/on (aka hard boot).
There is no process for locked bootloader to disable Write Protection while on 4.4.2.
If you lose root, there is no way to root 4.4.2. Flashing back to previous roms may or may not work, and can cause your phone to brick.
But if you have an UNLOCKED bootloader, the same process to root previously (flash twrp, boot into it, install SuperSU from there) works to root all versions, including 4.4.2
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thank you. I'm on my phone only so is there a way to flash the system img with just using my phone? it's rooted and unlocked.
thanks again.
cdmove said:
thank you. I'm on my phone only so is there a way to flash the system img with just using my phone? it's rooted and unlocked.
thanks again.
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No there is not.
You must have the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode and use mFastboot to system.img
Kid Joe, what's your opinion of 4.4.2? Is it worth it to wipe your phone from an unlocked, rooted 4.4 stock ROM to gain any benefits that might be had in 4.4.2, or am I better off keeping what I have? Btw.. I love gravity box and Xposed. They're the only reason I rooted, that and the ability to delete bloat.
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Kid Joe, what's your opinion of 4.4.2? Is it worth it to wipe your phone from an unlocked, rooted 4.4 stock ROM to gain any benefits that might be had in 4.4.2, or am I better off keeping what I have? Btw.. I love gravity box and Xposed. They're the only reason I rooted, that and the ability to delete bloat.
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I don't really see any difference between 4.4.2 and 4.4. If everything is working, you don't have any bugs or issues, and its all setup the way you want, then just like any update, you have to weigh your options. How much time/effort will it take you to undo and redo your settings to either take the OTA, or flash with RSD? Is that worth it for what the change log for this update lists?
If you use an Exchange mail account, I would consider it because that is fixed in 4.4.2, and broken in 4.4.
You could just wait, but when the next update comes out, you'll need to be on 4.4.2. So now, or later, you'll have to decide.
I don't suppose anyone has a link to RSD?
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I don't suppose anyone has a link to RSD?
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Hint.. see the thread about retuning to 100% stock using RSD ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515 )
Thanks again! Wasn't being lazy. Search from the phone app needs some work.
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