Hi. New to Xperia phone, coming from S3. So far loving it! just wondering if I can root and still have the option to get OTA from Sony? Don't want to loose bravia engine 2 (yet) so only need root to remove som bloatwares and install some apps. Also, if that is possible to get OTA with root, will updating the phone remove root?
Thanks!
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UnLucky12 said:
Hi. New to Xperia phone, coming from S3. So far loving it! just wondering if I can root and still have the option to get OTA from Sony? Don't want to loose bravia engine 2 (yet) so only need root to remove som bloatwares and install some apps. Also, if that is possible to get OTA with root, will updating the phone remove root?
Thanks!
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Use pro features of SuperSU or OTA Rootkeeper to protect your root, then when you OTA update you should be fine. Try not to modify anything in the System partition otherwise OTA will probably fail (is my understanding), or if you do (i.e. renaming various apks/odex files to .bak), make sure you put them back before OTA updating, in case they need to be patched.
Thanks for the reply! I was only thinking of installing adaway, also the whitecontroll mod to the Xperia. How do I then remove them like the whitecontroll app witch is intergrated in to the system?
If it removes root, I can always reroot the device
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UnLucky12 said:
Thanks for the reply! I was only thinking of installing adaway, also the whitecontroll mod to the Xperia. How do I then remove them like the whitecontroll app witch is intergrated in to the system?
If it removes root, I can always reroot the device
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I'm not sure about the WB control, I imagine that would likely prevent OTA due to libs inserted in to /system, perhaps if you were to perform the installation manually, take note of all files inserted, and backup any (if any) files it overwrites you could restore it before OTA.
As for AdAway, it only changes your host file, which shouldn't affect OTA, since I doubt Sony will make any changes to it OTA, but AdAway can be "undone" from within the app, so you can do that easily anyway.
It's hard to say really and depends on the OTA, but generally, from my experience, if the OTA contains a patch for a particular file, it will MD5 it, and if that fails, OTA will fail, if you have modified files that aren't patched as part of the OTA you shouldn't have a problem.
That said, I have little experience with Sony OTA files, and without looking at the script for any particular OTA you can never tell what they might check or change.
The only recommendation I can give really, is that if you want to OTA, change as LITTLE as possible in the /system partition, and make sure to revert any changes before attempting to apply an OTA.
If that is too much effort, and all you're really concerned about is you data, use Titanium Backup to keep everything safe, modify anything you want in system, then flash a stock ROM before you OTA update. You could also just flash a stock system partition, perhaps from a nandroid? before you OTA, and that should also solve the problem.
As you don't unlock your bootloader you're safe.
But OTA doesn't always works even in locked bootloader, tried yesterday to OTA update my locked bootloader Xperia T to .140 fw but it failed because of root, even after unroot with superSU option it failed.
Backup everything, update with SUS or PCC and reroot with binary tool using goroh_kun exploit included in the tool..
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I'm not sure about the WB control, I imagine that would likely prevent OTA due to libs inserted in to /system, perhaps if you were to perform the installation manually, take note of all files inserted, and backup any (if any) files it overwrites you could restore it before OTA.
As for AdAway, it only changes your host file, which shouldn't affect OTA, since I doubt Sony will make any changes to it OTA, but AdAway can be "undone" from within the app, so you can do that easily anyway.
It's hard to say really and depends on the OTA, but generally, from my experience, if the OTA contains a patch for a particular file, it will MD5 it, and if that fails, OTA will fail, if you have modified files that aren't patched as part of the OTA you shouldn't have a problem.
That said, I have little experience with Sony OTA files, and without looking at the script for any particular OTA you can never tell what they might check or change.
The only recommendation I can give really, is that if you want to OTA, change as LITTLE as possible in the /system partition, and make sure to revert any changes before attempting to apply an OTA.
If that is too much effort, and all you're really concerned about is you data, use Titanium Backup to keep everything safe, modify anything you want in system, then flash a stock ROM before you OTA update. You could also just flash a stock system partition, perhaps from a nandroid? before you OTA, and that should also solve the problem.
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So I can make a nandroid backup with only root? Using Rom Manager app. Or do I need to unlock the bootlocker? If I can, then I can just recover from nandroid that are stock, update then backup again, change systemlibs etc?
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As you don't unlock your bootloader you're safe.
But OTA doesn't always works even in locked bootloader, tried yesterday to OTA update my locked bootloader Xperia T to .140 fw but it failed because of root, even after unroot with superSU option it failed.
Backup everything, update with SUS or PCC and reroot with binary tool using goroh_kun exploit included in the tool..
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I see! Hmmm. But SUS?
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I see! Hmmm. But SUS?
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I believe SUS is Sony Update Service.
Technically, you should be able to nandroid with recovery for locked bootloader then restore system before OTA, but if Sony OTA checks somehow prevent it because of an md5 on the entire partition or some such, you will have to re flash a totally stock System, perhaps a custom FTF(?), update then root again.
Next time we get an OTA I'll test the process myself, but until then I can only speculate. Hopefully someone else has more concrete information.
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I believe SUS is Sony Update Service.
Technically, you should be able to nandroid with recovery for locked bootloader then restore system before OTA, but if Sony OTA checks somehow prevent it because of an md5 on the entire partition or some such, you will have to re flash a totally stock System, perhaps a custom FTF(?), update then root again.
Next time we get an OTA I'll test the process myself, but until then I can only speculate. Hopefully someone else has more concrete information.
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Thanks man! But Stock rom for the XZ. How or where can I download it? Supposed to use SUS or PCC? What is best?
Sorry for being such a noob. Don't want to totally destroy my phone hehe.
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Thanks man! But Stock rom for the XZ. How or where can I download it? Supposed to use SUS or PCC? What is best?
Sorry for being such a noob. Don't want to totally destroy my phone hehe.
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No problem, I, and I imagine others prefer to answer questions from cautious users than those all gung-ho, brick their devices then come crying for help. Ask first, flash later
As for which tool, I hope someone else can comment, I've always been a Samsung man until now so I've never used either tool yet.
As for stock firmwares, there are loads in the Dev section. Just pick the right one and flash it however they recommend.
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No problem, I, and I imagine others prefer to answer questions from cautious users than those all gung-ho, brick their devices then come crying for help. Ask first, flash later
As for which tool, I hope someone else can comment, I've always been a Samsung man until now so I've never used either tool yet.
As for stock firmwares, there are loads in the Dev section. Just pick the right one and flash it however they recommend.
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Yeah, and thanks for the help Hope your answers will also help other that also wonders about the same thing
Arent there a program or website to download the official firmwares? Or using SUS automatically update it to stock?
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UnLucky12 said:
Yeah, and thanks for the help Hope your answers will also help other that also wonders about the same thing
Arent there a program or website to download the official firmwares? Or using SUS automatically update it to stock?
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I believe so. Buy don't quote me on that, like I said, never used it.
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It's the same if you use Sony Update Service or PC Compagnon, PCC contain other tool, while SUS only update. Also you can use Flashtool by Androxyde (here on XDA) to flash firmware converted in ftf format. Sony also relased it's own tool named flashtool to flash unlocked bootloader mobile because you can't use SUS/PCC when it's unlocked.
Read this thread "All the info you need before you begin" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153167
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Noob here. I've searched the forums and have tried to piece together what I need to know for what I would like to do. I think I have a general understanding, but was hoping someone could verify or clarify.
I've got a Nexus 1 running 2.3.3. Never been rooted. All OTA updates.
What I would like is to root it so that I can delete crap like Facebook and Amazon and make room on the built-in memory. I don't want to unlock the boot-loader, and I don't want to flash custom ROMs. I do want control of what is stored where, the ability to move things to SD (even if they aren't marked for that (and yes, aware that that can cause problems sometimes)), and the ability to run Titanium backup.
As I understand it, all of that can be done with just root permission. But it seems that simple root for the N1 under 2.3.3 isn't available. Can anyone comment?
Thanks,
DT
Depends what you call simple...
Since you don't want to unlock the bootloader, you can try using the passimg method to revert to an earlier build of android, and then use any "simple root" available.
Unfortunately, a small percentage of users don't seem to be able to use the passimg method, and if you get an "main version is older" error, then it means you are among them...
Passimg method can be found in the wiki, under the unroot/restore guide (passimg method, using FRG33):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
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Good luck rooting, without trying to unlock the bootloader. It's simply not available atm I belive. Any particular reason you don't want to unlock the bootloader, beside the warranty?
root without unlocking bootloader
I'm still coming up to speed on this, so it's quite possible that I don't understand all the subtleties.
What I want to do is uninstall space-wasting preinstalled junk, and to run Titanium backup. I'm not interested (for now) in custom ROMs. I think I want to avoid unlocking the bootloader both for the warranty (a minor issue), convenience (another minor issue that could be overcome...), and because I want to retain as much of a "stock" device as possible, mostly to allow for future OTA updates. From what I've read, it sounds like a root would accomplish all that. Hence I'd rather avoid all the additional complications if a simple root were in fact available.
Thanks for the help,
DT
Unlocking the bootloader does not affect you device's ability to receive/install OTA updates, but removing "space-wasting preinstalled junk" will certainly prevent you from installing the OTA...
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Unlocking the bootloader does not affect you device's ability to receive/install OTA updates, but removing "space-wasting preinstalled junk" will certainly prevent you from installing the OTA...
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Totally agree. If you check the threads that were active during the OTA onslaught, many people could not install stock Gingerbread due to removing stock system apps (Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, etc...)
...but, if you have a custom recovery, you can still install the updates in a modified form.
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...but, if you have a custom recovery, you can still install the updates in a modified form.
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Really? I was unaware of that. Would you mind posting a link to an OTA (say, Gingerbread for example) that I would be able to install on a stock Froyo ROM, which I had removed say, Amazon and Facebook?
Thanks.
Thanks for the info. I hadn't thought about the OTA being affected by removal of unwanted programs.
DT
I would just passimg back to stock 2.2 and then root it with z4root
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Really? I was unaware of that. Would you mind posting a link to an OTA (say, Gingerbread for example) that I would be able to install on a stock Froyo ROM, which I had removed say, Amazon and Facebook?
Thanks.
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I said modified - meaning rooted, or even just having the verifications taken out of the update script...
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I said modified - meaning rooted, or even just having the verifications taken out of the update script...
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I was just asking if anyone has done this (or does this), as I would certainly love to remove apps, as long as I can install future updates as they become available. (Doing that is beyond my knowledge...) I like my stock ROM, and I would certainly remove certain apps if I know someone would provide a "modified" update.zip for a stock ROM that doesn't check if Amazon, etc are installed.
What I don't want is to flash a new ROM every time an update came out...
It is very simple. If you remove stuff from the stock rom the ota will fail.
You will then need flash the same way as you would for any of the custom roms for updates.
Or you could manually put the stuff you removed back but that is probably more work then you want to do.
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Easiest approach would probably be to take a backup of the stock image before you remove any apps, and restore it when you hear that an update is available...
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Easiest approach would probably be to take a backup of the stock image before you remove any apps, and restore it when you hear that an update is available...
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Restoring a NAND backup is essentially the same thing as flashing a new ROM, which is what I don't want to be doing. What would be good is to be able to install a modified/repacked/whatever-you-want-to-call-it OTA update file that has the check (which checks to see if apps are installed) disabled.
If it is just a line in a script that needs to be removed in an OTA, so that it will flash (with a custom recovery of course) with Amazon removed, it is surely doable, no? If it is doable, I am surprised that no one has done it for any of the updates... (at least I haven't seen any).
albundy2010 said:
It is very simple. If you remove stuff from the stock rom the ota will fail.
You will then need flash the same way as you would for any of the custom roms for updates.
Or you could manually put the stuff you removed back but that is probably more work then you want to do.
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Thanks, but my question was: is it possible to modify an OTA zip file in such a way that it disables checking for installed apps like Amazon?
This would be helpful, and I had never thought of it until danger-rat mentioned it, but I may have misunderstood his post - he was probably talking about just flashing a new ROM, but that is not what I am interested in.
Yes, it's possible.
The update script is pretty big though, so you'd have your work cut out making sure you covered everything...
The other option would be to build an restore zip, that just reinstalled the apps you remove. Just add the apps to a zip as you restore them...
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Yes, it's possible.
The update script is pretty big though, so you'd have your work cut out making sure you covered everything...
The other option would be to build an restore zip, that just reinstalled the apps you remove. Just add the apps to a zip as you restore them...
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That sounds like a good idea.
This is what I'd like to do as a test:
1) Restore a stock Froyo ROM
2) Remove the Amazon.apk (and possibly others) from my ROM and save it somewhere (and whatever other files would be needed).
3) Create an update.zip file that would place the Amazon.apk file back to the correct directory in a stock ROM (i.e., odexed).
4) Flash that update.zip
5) Flash the Gingerbread OTA and see if it works.
Would you be able to point me to a guide on how to create a flashable zip? Again, I would need to be able to do this for an odexed ROM.
Thanks.
EDIT: Nevermind. I found it here: http://www.londatiga.net/it/how-to-create-android-update-zip-package/
ameedi600 said:
I would just passimg back to stock 2.2 and then root it with z4root
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I agree this is what I did had no problems at all
Hi,
I am not able to update my XZ to the latest .244 firmware. Here are some info of my Phone.
1) locked bootloader (it is unlockable)
2) current on .423 firmware.
3) rooted
4) install superSU (with survival mode on)
5) install OTA rootkeeper.
I saw some post stating that they are able to keep root after OTA, so i am hoping to keep my root too after OTA.
please advise.
I have exactly the same problem. Cant do OTA and im states scared to update through PC companion since my friend bricked up the phone.
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Are you running stock .423 odexed? I had this issue when I flashed a deodexed ROM then tried OTA update
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Hi,
It is not possible to do a OTA Update after deleting one or more system apps (even stuff like partnerbookmarks).
There are, however, 2 ways to get the Update.
1.) Follow some of the instructions here like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287149
There are some other ways posted here at xda. They use the flashtool to flash current firmware.
2.) Use Sony PC Companion, this will work ALWAYS,but: Root will be gone. U can use Doomlords rooting method to get Root again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386405
Good luck
hutilicious said:
Hi,
It is not possible to do a OTA Update after deleting one or more system apps (even stuff like partnerbookmarks).
There are, however, 2 ways to get the Update.
1.) Follow some of the instructions here like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287149
There are some other ways posted here at xda. They use the flashtool to flash current firmware.
2.) Use Sony PC Companion, this will work ALWAYS,but: Root will be gone. U can use Doomlords rooting method to get Root again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386405
Good luck
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I flashed mine .423 using flashtool, so guests I needed update using pc then...
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Flashben said:
I flashed mine .423 using flashtool, so guests I needed update using pc then...
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PC Update will never fail, the only thing is that you lose root access, which can be easily recovered though.
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PC Update will never fail, the only thing is that you lose root access, which can be easily recovered though.
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Yeah, just updated and rooted
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PLEASE HELP
my xperia Z , c6602 , got new update .244
tried to update using fone , downloded 175 mb and restrted, updating proceess came up (android logo) automatically rebooted when the progress bar about 75% , not updated same old .423
tried 2 times same issue,
then i tried using sony pc companin(win8), donloaded updated and strted update process, progress bar 90% came up error that update failed,
disconnect phone,
NOW phone didnt boot up
only SONY logo coming and switchs off.
pls help
It could be brick....
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It could be brick....
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thanks for responce, so what i can do now?
diz_007 said:
thanks for responce, so what i can do now?
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Hi mate, dont panic. Just follow the instructions on how to flash a stock firmware with flashtool. This is already described here at xda, try searching for it. It will repair your phone but data may be lost.
Look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
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Hi mate, dont panic. Just follow the instructions on how to flash a stock firmware with flashtool. This is already described here at xda, try searching for it. It will repair your phone but data may be lost.
Look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
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thanks.. i tryed repaIR OPTION FROM pc companin, data lost! but updated to latest and good now!
Hi All,
I have T-Mobile branded C6606 and have been considering rooting so that I can flash a c6603 stock ROM. I know the bootloader is locked on the device but here is my question:
If I flash a stock ROM and basically make the phone act as a 6603, will I get updates directly from Sony for example will I be able to upgrade to 4.3 or 4.4 via PC Companion or OTA ? I'm assuming this is with the bootloader remaining locked.
Also, assuming I decide to root and flash using a stock ROM are there any CONS...ie. Wifi or NFC issues ?
Thanks!
goon3r said:
Hi All,
I have T-Mobile branded C6606 and have been considering rooting so that I can flash a c6603 stock ROM. I know the bootloader is locked on the device but here is my question:
If I flash a stock ROM and basically make the phone act as a 6603, will I get updates directly from Sony for example will I be able to upgrade to 4.3 or 4.4 via PC Companion or OTA ? I'm assuming this is with the bootloader remaining locked.
Also, assuming I decide to root and flash using a stock ROM are there any CONS...ie. Wifi or NFC issues ?
Thanks!
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No issues. It will perform as a 6603. Only thing you will loose is wifi calling... I'm typing this from a 6606 right now on rooted 4.3 ES firmware.
You need to flash a (.67) or (.74) rom first, root it, install recovery, and then you can install a (.569) pre-rooted rom. Make sure you set your apn correctly for mms functioning.
You can use this as your final update for now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthredad.php?t=2583333
Please post questions in q&a section next time.
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Thanks for the info Grogg.
I'm curious though, why is it that I should install the older (.67 or 74) ROM first ? I was actually planning to root, install CWM then simply find a Generic unbranded ROM to flash.
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No issues. It will perform as a 6603. Only thing you will loose is wifi calling... I'm typing this from a 6606 right now on rooted 4.3 ES firmware.
You need to flash a (.67) or (.74) rom first, root it, install recovery, and then you can install a (.569) pre-rooted rom. Make sure you set your apn correctly for mms functioning.
You can use this as your final update for now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthredad.php?t=2583333
Please post questions in q&a section next time.
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Thanks for the info Grogg.
I'm curious though, why is it that I should install the older (.67 or 74) ROM first ? I was actually planning to root, install CWM then simply find a Generic unbranded ROM to flash.
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Because you cannot root the 4.3 roms directly without an unlocked bootloader. The way I described is the only option for now.
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Im on existenzv5 locked bl rooted c6606 tmobile running great
So I flashed a stock 6603 ES ROM (10.31.A.2.67), been testing it and no issues so far. Happy to get rid of some of the T-Mobile bloatware.
Since 4.3 is already out for the C6603 , I was expecting an OTA or PC Companion to prompt me to update to 4.3 (shows 6603). Am I missing something here ?
I haven't rooted or done anything else apart from the ROM Flash. To be honest I don't have much desire for Custom ROMs or need Root access, just a desire to get faster updates and less bloat. If I can get a stock 4.3 on the device I may leave it like that. The most important thing for me though is to just be able to get updates.
Wondering if I should start a new thread in the QA forum or if a MOD can simply move this one.
goon3r said:
So I flashed a stock 6603 ES ROM (10.31.A.2.67), been testing it and no issues so far. Happy to get rid of some of the T-Mobile bloatware.
Since 4.3 is already out for the C6603 , I was expecting an OTA or PC Companion to prompt me to update to 4.3 (shows 6603). Am I missing something here ?
I haven't rooted or done anything else apart from the ROM Flash. To be honest I don't have much desire for Custom ROMs or need Root access, just a desire to get faster updates and less bloat. If I can get a stock 4.3 on the device I may leave it like that. The most important thing for me though is to just be able to get updates.
Wondering if I should start a new thread in the QA forum or if a MOD can simply move this one.
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There may or may not be an update available depending on the customization number you flashed. Either way, if you flashed a stock ftf then you will receive updates as they become available for your customization number.
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Ok. Ignorance on my part. I was under the impression that the builds were generic enough that all would be eligible for updates.
The FTF I used was from this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45856753&postcount=1
Can you point me at or recommend an FTF then ? I'm going to be giving the phone to a family member in a few weeks and just want them to at least be able to get regular updates.
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There may or may not be an update available depending on the customization number you flashed. Either way, if you flashed a stock ftf then you will receive updates as they become available for your customization number.
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Generic ES 4.3 has been released. You should be getting an update to (.569). You can check firmware versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42234656
There is an ftf available for that update though, so you could go that route.
Download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48974188
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While I wait for the 4.3 ROM in that link (taking 3+ hours so far), I decided to try a generic UK Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404211
I got prompted for an OTA update which completed fine, no prompt for 4.3 since though. Is it just a case of waiting or am I missing something ? When I use flashtool I am leaving everything at default only excluding baseband.
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Generic ES 4.3 has been released. You should be getting an update to (.569). You can check firmware versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42234656
There is an ftf available for that update though, so you could go that route.
Download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48974188
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goon3r said:
While I wait for the 4.3 ROM in that link (taking 3+ hours so far), I decided to try a generic UK Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404211
I got prompted for an OTA update which completed fine, no prompt for 4.3 since though. Is it just a case of waiting or am I missing something ? When I use flashtool I am leaving everything at default only excluding baseband.
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You can try rebooting and checking again. Did you ever perform a factory reset? If not, do it.
Also, the baseband really doesn't need to be excluded. I've seen no benefits in keeping any of the t-mobile garbage.
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Refer to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311211
There will be some folder you may have to delete from PCC data because it is cached and PCC will still see your device with the old customization. It is explained in that 1st post.
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You can try rebooting and checking again. Did you ever perform a factory reset? If not, do it.
Also, the baseband really doesn't need to be excluded. I've seen no benefits in keeping any of the t-mobile garbage.
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I took your advice and reflashed with baseband and also did the factory reset. The baseband left me with weak LTE in areas where I normally have full bars. In the end the update still didn't show allowing me to move to 4.3. I ended up just flashing the 4.3 ES rom that you linked to and have been liking it so far.
I really would like to have a better understanding of how/why I wasn't getting the update prompts.
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Refer to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311211
There will be some folder you may have to delete from PCC data because it is cached and PCC will still see your device with the old customization. It is explained in that 1st post.
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I actually looked into this, but at one point after flashing but didn't have any folder to delete. Also, after the last flash I connected to a brand new laptop that had never had PCC installed or seen the phone before and the result was the same. No update could be found.
I appreciate the suggestions so far, I'd love to know what else I can try though as I'd like to have the phone get regular updates independent of T-Mobile.
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Generic ES 4.3 has been released. You should be getting an update to (.569). You can check firmware versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42234656
There is an ftf available for that update though, so you could go that route.
Download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48974188
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Here are the steps I am taking to root my tmobile c6606 on a c6603 4.3 rom. It has been unsuccesful. I would like help.
I have used flashtool-0.9.13.0-windows tool.
I use it to successfully install Xperia Z (C6603)_10.4.B.0.569_Generic ES tft.
It is fully fuctional and works with no problems.
However.
I have tried the Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v33 tool that roots the C6606 succesfully when I have the original factory rom installed.
BUT when I have this 4.3 Generic ES rom installed it will not root. It says I need to enable USB Debugging. I do that. The the phone shows it is in that mode, but the root program will not see it in that mode.
Therefore, rooting can not occur..
What do I do?
Id like to root so I can install my special apps and remove bloat.
Thanks
nickcaper said:
Here are the steps I am taking to root my tmobile c6606 on a c6603 4.3 rom. It has been unsuccesful. I would like help.
I have used flashtool-0.9.13.0-windows tool.
I use it to successfully install Xperia Z (C6603)_10.4.B.0.569_Generic ES tft.
It is fully fuctional and works with no problems.
However.
I have tried the Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v33 tool that roots the C6606 succesfully when I have the original factory rom installed.
BUT when I have this 4.3 Generic ES rom installed it will not root. It says I need to enable USB Debugging. I do that. The the phone shows it is in that mode, but the root program will not see it in that mode.
Therefore, rooting can not occur..
What do I do?
Id like to root so I can install my special apps and remove bloat.
Thanks
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You cannot root any 4.3 rom directly without unlocking the bootloader. As you have a C6606, you cannot do that.
You will have to downgrade to a 4.2.2 rom, root, then flash a prerooted 4.3 rom.
This information is readily available all over this section, so a search probably would have got you the information you needed.
Forum rules.
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NOTE: MODS, i know i could have used an existing thread for this, but i need the information in a proper way and maybe ask some repeated questions.
Hi guys,
I recently bought my first sony phone. Mighty impressed, i must say. Being an old HTC fan, i didnt expect i will ever make a jump, but this phone hooked me.
I have worked a bit for the development of HTC and some other phones, so i know what to look for and where to. Reading all the guides here, this is what i concluded if i want to safely unlock bootloader and flash some CM goodness. Please read my steps and let me know i am doing the right thing:
1. Root (via Doomlord thread guide. Flash old kernel, use exploit, then flash new kernel back)
2. Backup TA partition (for the precious BE2 and other magical SONY stuff)
3. Unlock BL the official or unofficial way, (as it doesnt matter because i can always relock it using TA backup , am i right???)
4. Flash CWM/TWRP etc and enjoy all the custom roms. (never look back)
Much appreciated guys. I will surely contribute with my own flavor of aokp once i get the basics correct. Not so soon.
Regards
neXusPRIME
Yes and Yes.
The steps you described are the proper ones
Yep that's the right steps to do!Have fun unlocking your device
Real benefits of unlocking bootloader? And can I use custom roms without unlocking?
Found it. I need to unlock before flashing non stock custom roms.
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Secondly, does anyone know a method to skip tracks while sleep mode? I don't want to wake phone each time I want to skip a track
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neXus PRIME said:
Secondly, does anyone know a method to skip tracks while sleep mode? I don't want to wake phone each time I want to skip a track
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Maybe Xposed Framework can help you out
Hmmm. Then I have to root.... Okay, I'll do that. Any other option?
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if 4.3 comes via OTA and i have rooted (not Unlocked), will i get the ota and will it install properly?
or do we need a clean untouched device for OTA?
No if your bootloader is untouched it will update you will lose root tho
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No if your bootloader is untouched it will update you will lose root tho
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You can use Voodoo OTA Rootkeepr for that
Rooting will flash custom recovery. How to get back stock recovery after that?
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Rooting will flash custom recovery. How to get back stock recovery after that?
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Rooting will not flash a custom recovery it will just install a SuperSu app and su binary. U can use a stock firmware and flash it using flashtool to get back to stock
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One last question before taking the plunge.
What if i flash a generic stock FTF (for my c5303 ofcourse), but not caring about the branding, will that also be okay for OTAs or will i have to repair/update via PCC SEUS?
In other words, how do i know which branding stock ftf do i need? About Phone page doesnt have that info i think.
I am not worried about system partition or anything, but i want to make sure i have stock recovery of my phone which will guaranteed work when i get the 4.3 OTA.
for rest, ill root, flash CWM and nand backup all things.
btw, it was so so easier on HTC
neXus PRIME said:
One last question before taking the plunge.
What if i flash a generic stock FTF (for my c5303 ofcourse), but not caring about the branding, will that also be okay for OTAs or will i have to repair/update via PCC SEUS?
In other words, how do i know which branding stock ftf do i need? About Phone page doesnt have that info i think.
I am not worried about system partition or anything, but i want to make sure i have stock recovery of my phone which will guaranteed work when i get the 4.3 OTA.
for rest, ill root, flash CWM and nand backup all things.
btw, it was so so easier on HTC
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You can restore you phone with SEUS also with Flashtool ofcourse.
It does not matter what kind of firmware you flash as long as it is an C5303 one. I had dutch Vodafone Branded and I flashed a Generic EU one without issue the updates will be provide by Sony and not vodafone (my case).
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You can restore you phone with SEUS also with Flashtool ofcourse.
It does not matter what kind of firmware you flash as long as it is an C5303 one. I had dutch Vodafone Branded and I flashed a Generic EU one without issue the updates will be provide by Sony and not vodafone (my case).
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Great. Thanks. I'm thinking of creating my own ftf. Just for the sake of it.
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A little help please!!!
locked BL
rooted stock
installed cwm n twrp for locked bl. took a nand backup.
tried to flash existenze ultra using twrp without wiping anything. Installation completed in 10 sec, which is fishy.
on reboot, phone is stuck on sony logo.
cant enter recovery, only goes into flashmode....
what to do now???
can i recover??
neXus PRIME said:
A little help please!!!
locked BL
rooted stock
installed cwm n twrp for locked bl. took a nand backup.
tried to flash existenze ultra using twrp without wiping anything. Installation completed in 10 sec, which is fishy.
on reboot, phone is stuck on sony logo.
cant enter recovery, only goes into flashmode....
what to do now???
can i recover??
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Well, that's weird... Flash original .ftf with flashtool?
Nanostray said:
Well, that's weird... Flash original .ftf with flashtool?
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Used sony update service to repair my phone,
Its back to unrooted stock 254
i think twrp messed something up.
Is it recommended or CWM only works?
on my old phone, twrp was more reliable.
There is something fishy with sony mobiles.
I know the modding stuff is more safe due to flashtool being always available for the rescue, however common stuff such as unlock, TA, recovery and etc are much too complicated for the newcomers.
even being n RC for porting TWRP to two htc phones didnt help me there.
Stuff dont work the first time.
In my case, the problem was,
flashtool worked the second time for flashing 254 kernel
doomlord kit worked the second time for rooting (i really dont know why, but it wasnt related to kit, something up with usb debug n permissions)
installing CWM didnt work the first time as well, (not the fault of installer, rather first time fails coz u give SU permissions just then, so something is missed, 2nd time, the SU permission is already there, so it works)
and ROM flashing almost always needs wipe dalvik/data/cache etc otherwise you might mess something up...
Its a lot safer if i see it one way, because these steps are more foolproof, but on the other hand, a lot more complicated, then say HTC or samsung phones. especially as i havent unlocked my BL so being cautious at every step.
Anyways, all things are fine now, using existenze ultra and enjoying it every bit.
Will step more carefully now on, using above as experience. Thanks all. This thread is closed until i have another problem
how do I get the apps back and put them in system folder?
thanks
I was reading another thread last night where someone had dumped all of the moto x files. The links in this thread are dead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ump-download-wallpapers-t2388941/post44198668) but someone in the thread mentioned that googling motoxdump.zip found a working google drive link. I guess you could try to extract the apps you're missing... Next time you may just want to freeze the apps instead of deleting them completely.
There are MANY threads and posts about getting back to stock to take an OTA already, but...
Short answer, you could download the SBF for the rom version you are on from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
Unzip it.
Use mFastboot to flash the system.img onto your phone.
You will also need to make sure you have the stock recovery.
If you have a locked bootloader, and take 4.4.2 update, there are many cautions...
You might retain root during the OTA, but write protection will be come re-enabled (i.e. you'll lose the effect of MotoWpNoMO), so any changes you make to /system or the like wont be retained after power off/on (aka hard boot).
There is no process for locked bootloader to disable Write Protection while on 4.4.2.
If you lose root, there is no way to root 4.4.2. Flashing back to previous roms may or may not work, and can cause your phone to brick.
But if you have an UNLOCKED bootloader, the same process to root previously (flash twrp, boot into it, install SuperSU from there) works to root all versions, including 4.4.2
KidJoe said:
There are MANY threads and posts about getting back to stock to take an OTA already, but...
Short answer, you could download the SBF for the rom version you are on from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
Unzip it.
Use mFastboot to flash the system.img onto your phone.
You will also need to make sure you have the stock recovery.
If you have a locked bootloader, and take 4.4.2 update, there are many cautions...
You might retain root during the OTA, but write protection will be come re-enabled (i.e. you'll lose the effect of MotoWpNoMO), so any changes you make to /system or the like wont be retained after power off/on (aka hard boot).
There is no process for locked bootloader to disable Write Protection while on 4.4.2.
If you lose root, there is no way to root 4.4.2. Flashing back to previous roms may or may not work, and can cause your phone to brick.
But if you have an UNLOCKED bootloader, the same process to root previously (flash twrp, boot into it, install SuperSU from there) works to root all versions, including 4.4.2
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thank you. I'm on my phone only so is there a way to flash the system img with just using my phone? it's rooted and unlocked.
thanks again.
cdmove said:
thank you. I'm on my phone only so is there a way to flash the system img with just using my phone? it's rooted and unlocked.
thanks again.
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No there is not.
You must have the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode and use mFastboot to system.img
Kid Joe, what's your opinion of 4.4.2? Is it worth it to wipe your phone from an unlocked, rooted 4.4 stock ROM to gain any benefits that might be had in 4.4.2, or am I better off keeping what I have? Btw.. I love gravity box and Xposed. They're the only reason I rooted, that and the ability to delete bloat.
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Kid Joe, what's your opinion of 4.4.2? Is it worth it to wipe your phone from an unlocked, rooted 4.4 stock ROM to gain any benefits that might be had in 4.4.2, or am I better off keeping what I have? Btw.. I love gravity box and Xposed. They're the only reason I rooted, that and the ability to delete bloat.
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I don't really see any difference between 4.4.2 and 4.4. If everything is working, you don't have any bugs or issues, and its all setup the way you want, then just like any update, you have to weigh your options. How much time/effort will it take you to undo and redo your settings to either take the OTA, or flash with RSD? Is that worth it for what the change log for this update lists?
If you use an Exchange mail account, I would consider it because that is fixed in 4.4.2, and broken in 4.4.
You could just wait, but when the next update comes out, you'll need to be on 4.4.2. So now, or later, you'll have to decide.
I don't suppose anyone has a link to RSD?
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I don't suppose anyone has a link to RSD?
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Hint.. see the thread about retuning to 100% stock using RSD ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515 )
Thanks again! Wasn't being lazy. Search from the phone app needs some work.
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