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Just got an iPhone 4

I just got an iPhone 4 last night and I was pretty excited about it. I upgraded my account and got the 32 gb version for 300. I still have my nexus and I'm thinking of doing an in-depth review between the 2 once I use the iPhone for a little. The hardware is beautiful and feels amazing in your hand and high quality. I got a sgp full body protection in crystal clear and by being an idiot, I messed it up. So far in the last day, I've had a good experience with it, antenna problem goes down to 1-2 bars if I really squeeze hard but never alters Internet speeds or drops calls. After I got a side decal, it's hard to get it to 1 bar and sometimes 2. So do u guys think I made a good decision in getting it and would you like to see me do a review between the nexus and the iPhone. I've had the nexus for 4 months.

Tell me more about your screen protectors, riveting...

mets3214 said:
would you like to see me do a review between the nexus and the iPhone. I've had the nexus for 4 months.
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Nope.
And no, your antenna issues on your iPhone aren't as breathtaking for nexus one forum as you may think =)
Otherwise, grats!

Personally would never get an apple product.

Meh, the fact that you are even remotely excited about the Iphone is enough to turn most of us fanbois off.
But yeah, no one's stopping you from doing a comparison review.

could you tell us 'why' you got one?
what appeals to you about it?

I'm curious why so many people switch phones so fast? Already tired of the Nexus that quick? Or maybe people just have the extra cash for all the latest phones lol.

I have had a my share of iPhones. After owning a nexus one or any other similar phone I would never go back. IPhones are so restrictive on everything it sucks. Your better off selling it on Craigslist for double what you got it for and spend that money on something useful.
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donutman said:
I'm curious why so many people switch phones so fast? Already tired of the Nexus that quick? Or maybe people just have the extra cash for all the latest phones lol.
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Gotta drive that multi-trillion dollar debt =)

i ordered an iPhone 4 just so i could sell it on eBay. made a real quick $700 after selling it a week ago for $900..... N1 FTW!

Honestly I wouldn't mind having the new iPhone. But I think I would wait and get the phone once all the issues have been addressed.
But I don't think iPhones can match android right now.
What I love about the iPhone is that the os is really smooth and fast. Obviously I hate how its restrictive.
But having the new iPhone with the nexus one would be pretty sweet. At least for me anyways.
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don't bother with the iPhone 4. just buy the 3G s. there is almost no difference in performance between the 2 and the 3G s can actually make a phone call.

Moved to OT.

Its a TREND thing every one knows about the signal problem and does that stop them NO, look at me Ive got an icrap. Now if that was the latest great windows phone it would get slaughtered but because its the icrap its OK lets get it and don't bother it cannot make calls i just have one
BUT a review would be nice on why you decided to get one knowing the signal problem or do you use the Gafa Tape ??

How about a review on the best type of tape to use?

I've never really liked any of the iPhones. This is the first one I ever even thought about getting. The hardware is superb, nexus feels cheaper. Camera is great, video recording was much better than the nexus but camera quality was only slightly better. The screen is beautiful and just as good if not better than nexus. Better in sunlight too. ITunes is still annoying and the iPhone doesn't sort the artists by album artist. Both have great call quality but the iPhone has a louder earpiece. That's what I got so far after one and half days of use. Os is annoyingly restricted, have to wait till jailbreak gets released. Touch screen works much better, more responsive and no multi touch issues. Games are better too. So far i am enjoying the new iPhone

Ok so this is the deal with me and iPhones, I had 5 different 3GS and sold them all for a very good profit, i now have the Evo and wouldnt think of getting another iPhone unless is to make some quick $$$$. The freedom Android gives us its unblieveable ...so why go back to an iphone? Lol just look at all the crap you gotta go thru just to add some music or videos. Android keeps it simple, not just with that example but with everything else. Dont get me wrong i love the hardware on the iPhone 4, but is it worth going through all the crap Apple makes you go thru? Na, just to change a battery its a mission nd they charge for everything. So again to sum it up I basically say sell the iPhone, and stay with the beautiful Nexus.
JBlaze -- Evo 4G

So, what's it like being different like all the other different people?
Just kidding... Have fun with your new gadget.

mets3214 said:
I just got an iPhone 4 last night and I was pretty excited about it. I upgraded my account and got the 32 gb version for 300. I still have my nexus and I'm thinking of doing an in-depth review between the 2 once I use the iPhone for a little. The hardware is beautiful and feels amazing in your hand and high quality. I got a sgp full body protection in crystal clear and by being an idiot, I messed it up. So far in the last day, I've had a good experience with it, antenna problem goes down to 1-2 bars if I really squeeze hard but never alters Internet speeds or drops calls. After I got a side decal, it's hard to get it to 1 bar and sometimes 2. So do u guys think I made a good decision in getting it and would you like to see me do a review between the nexus and the iPhone. I've had the nexus for 4 months.
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Shame to hear that
my condolences, poor Nexus1
I prefer to non see your nexus vs iphoney comparison

iPhone 4 haven't landed here yet, but I have seen some imported from UK and US. The first phones to hit the "norwegian Craigslist" had a pricetag of 2300 dollars LOL!!!!!

So, I'm Torn... Get another Vivid, or...?

my work is going to provide phones (w/2gb data plans) to every employee.
Most are getting iPhone 4s 16gbs
but since I am in IT, I got an early heads up and HATE the iPhone, so get to choose what phone i get...
it has to be $199 or less(since i'm in so cal, that includes the Skyrocket)
Note: I will be carrying two phones...
Do I get
A 2nd Vivid, maybe in White? (I have faith that the bootloader will be unlocked... either by good graces or by court order)
SGS II (I liked it except for the over saturation, but with a custom rom I can restore the ability to tone that down, i hear)
SGS II Skyrocket.
Or something else?
At this point I'm leaning Skyrocket... I do know since I will be carrying 2 phones, I'd like the 2nd one to be thinner, if not out right smaller than the Vivid

I'd wait and look at the LG Nitro...

gtkansan said:
I'd wait and look at the LG Nitro...
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it's $249 and has a reported 3 hr battery life.
So it's out.

If you have the Vivid already and will be carrying both phones I'd go with the 4S. Why do you need two Android phones? I hate to admit it, but there's some things the iPhone does better (mainly sound quality).

LG Has a HORRIBLE Record at doing any sort of updates to their phones. All you have to do is look at the LG Thrill that is still running Froyo. The SkyRocket has issues with banding if you are looking at dark pictures and or movies and if movies you also get the lovely blobbing effect. I just got the SGSII and it does Not suffer from the Banding of lines through dark scenes, I as of yet I have to notice the blobbing effect either. So I would say SGSII or the Thrill in White if those are the choices you have. Regardless I have heard some where or another forget where that there will be new phones released this weekend so who knows might be something there for ya.

rquinn19 said:
If you have the Vivid already and will be carrying both phones I'd go with the 4S. Why do you need two Android phones? I hate to admit it, but there's some things the iPhone does better (mainly sound quality).
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The iPhone doesn't hold a candle to the sound quality of any Samsung device with Voodoo Sound. Unfortunately, Samsung decided to skimp out on the GSII and put a crappy sound card in it.

rquinn19 said:
If you have the Vivid already and will be carrying both phones I'd go with the 4S. Why do you need two Android phones? I hate to admit it, but there's some things the iPhone does better (mainly sound quality).
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because IOS is boring. and the phone looks old...
and I REALLY love android...
Also, the lack of HSPA+ is a deal breaker for me...
Did I forget to mention, that should i leave or get fired... the phone is mine... So I need to get a phone I like...

iPhone it holds it value for resale.

RoboMonkey said:
iPhone it holds it value for resale.
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If it's a corporate device, resale might not be an issue due to company policy.

slapshot30 said:
The iPhone doesn't hold a candle to the sound quality of any Samsung device with Voodoo Sound. Unfortunately, Samsung decided to skimp out on the GSII and put a crappy sound card in it.
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AFAIK only the Galaxy S phones
ClippinWings said:
because IOS is boring. and the phone looks old...
and I REALLY love android...
Also, the lack of HSPA+ is a deal breaker for me...
Did I forget to mention, that should i leave or get fired... the phone is mine... So I need to get a phone I like...
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RoboMonkey said:
iPhone it holds it value for resale.
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The 4S is HSPA+ and I hate to sound like an iPhone supporter, but they do hold their value (get a 4S and you can trade it for any phone released in the next 3 months easy). I guess the way I see it if I were to walk around with two devices I would want them to be different. Go for WP7 even.

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AFAIK only the Galaxy S phones
The 4S is HSPA+ and I hate to sound like an iPhone supporter, but they do hold their value (get a 4S and you can trade it for any phone released in the next 3 months easy). I guess the way I see it if I were to walk around with two devices I would want them to be different. Go for WP7 even.
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OK, but not HSPA+ 21... it's not as fast as the SGSII or Vivid(when not on LTE)

I just returned my Vivid and got the LG Nitro HD. Far happier with it overall and the unlocked bootloader is a plus. The phone will be $199 in areas with LTE just like the Skyrocket is. As for battery life I don't know where you got that 3 hour battery figure from but mine has gone from 1:30PM - 9:30PM and has dropped from 33% to 25% battery with a couple of 5-10 minute phone calls, 20 texts, and moderate internet usage.

bloodiedwraith said:
I just returned my Vivid and got the LG Nitro HD. Far happier with it overall and the unlocked bootloader is a plus. The phone will be $199 in areas with LTE just like the Skyrocket is. As for battery life I don't know where you got that 3 hour battery figure from but mine has gone from 1:30PM - 9:30PM and has dropped from 33% to 25% battery with a couple of 5-10 minute phone calls, 20 texts, and moderate internet usage.
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if the nitro is $149 in my market, like the skyrocket, it will again be under consideration.

bloodiedwraith said:
I just returned my Vivid and got the LG Nitro HD. Far happier with it overall and the unlocked bootloader is a plus. The phone will be $199 in areas with LTE just like the Skyrocket is. As for battery life I don't know where you got that 3 hour battery figure from but mine has gone from 1:30PM - 9:30PM and has dropped from 33% to 25% battery with a couple of 5-10 minute phone calls, 20 texts, and moderate internet usage.
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Good luck man. LG just doesn't have a good rep around here, nor do they deserve one. Even with the unlocked bootloader, LG phones' development doesn't hold a candle to any HTC/Samsung/Motorola device.

It doesn't really matter to me because I'm not paying for the phones. They're from work so I can just swap to whatever new phone comes out, but I have a feeling that it being the first 720p screen device on AT&T as well as being available for our friends up north in Canada as well as overseas that it will see a bit more development than some of the previous horrible LG devices, such as the Thrill.

bloodiedwraith said:
It doesn't really matter to me because I'm not paying for the phones. They're from work so I can just swap to whatever new phone comes out, but I have a feeling that it being the first 720p screen device on AT&T as well as being available for our friends up north in Canada as well as overseas that it will see a bit more development than some of the previous horrible LG devices, such as the Thrill.
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The Thrill (Optimus 3D) was widely available as well.

True, but like I said I think the 720p screen as well as the LTE will be a huge draw for people. But either way, even if it doesn't get any development I have to say that stock and out of the box (my only modification was getting rid of the horrible LG Home and going with ADW EX) it destroys the HTC Vivid in day to day use so far, IMO.
Definitely play around with one in the store when it launches if you haven't already.

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The Thrill (Optimus 3D) was widely available as well.
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Yea... and look how that one failed lol. To above poster, LG and phones just don't go together well. The last good phone by them was probably the chocolate.

slapshot30 said:
Yea... and look how that one failed lol. To above poster, LG and phones just don't go together well. The last good phone by them was probably the chocolate.
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Oh God no. When I was a tech manager at VZW we replaced those phones 20-50 times a day they were utterly horrible! lol But I agree on the sentiment that LG and phones don't go together as I'm actually not a fan of anything LG.

bloodiedwraith said:
Oh God no. When I was a tech manager at VZW we replaced those phones 20-50 times a day they were utterly horrible! lol But I agree on the sentiment that LG and phones don't go together as I'm actually not a fan of anything LG.
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lol I kid, I kid. They had catchy commercials for that phone though! I've never gone with LG for appliances, but I don't believe they are too bad (correct me if I'm wrong). But in terms of phones, they just never stack up. They used to actually be pretty good, before smartphones got big. I remember one in particular it had a screen on the outside and then you'd flip it and it had another screen on the inside with a big keyboard, (not the most thorough description lol). That thing was decent and ahead of the game from what I can remember.

Battery/LTE: Every phone has its tradeoffs

I am reading a lot of bemoaning with regards to what is considered poor battery life on the Nexus 4 based on comparisons made by Anandtech's review, and I feel that people are forgetting the golden rule of smartphones. That rule being that every phone has at least one 'fatal flaw' that you have to accept when you finally purchase that device. I feel like this thread will put things into perspective for those who just want to have it all. Reality is what it is, I'm not saying you should settle and give in to sub-ideal phones, but hey if you need a phone you need a phone, ideals and wishes won't make phone calls or grab your emails for you.
Let's start with the iPhone 5. Firstly, it's iOS and all its annoying ecosystem that surely every Android enthusiast has distaste for in some way or another. I'm pretty sure that rules it out alone and causes us think "Well who cares how long the battery lasts if I hate using the thing. Pass." It does have great battery life on LTE, quality construction, more accessories than you can shake a stick at, etc etc, but it's still iOS. No LTE in my area either but hey not the phone's fault.
Onto the HTC One X, which is a good phone in many regards but still has those 'fatal flaws.' It costs $465.50 (6 months after launch) unlocked which isn't too heinous but it isn't pentaband GSM keeping you from 3G/HSPA+ on T-mobile or whatever random 1700 band International carriers there are in the world. Also has frequent wifi antenna problems for many. It only sports 1 GB of ram. It is not pure Android, HTC Sense is hated by many, can be replaced with a custom rom, which is very good. Curious how the HTC one X (1800 mah) did better than the S3 (2100 mah).
Motorola Razr M. I rather like the physical feel of this phone, but with 4.0 ICS, nowhere to buy it unlocked, 1 GB of ram, and less dev support than these other phones I wouldn't consider it strongly.
Next the Motorola Razr i. Only has 4.0.4 ICS, 1 GB of ram, $498.50 unlocked also with no 1700 band support. Screen is probably not in the HTC One X leagues either.
Skipping a few brings me to the Motorola Photon Q. Obviously this thing is only for QWERTY lovers, of which I am not. Hey it probably kicks ass though if that's your thing. Oh but wait, you can only get it from carriers which means you'll be signing a contract. Wuh-oh no dice, that ain't nice.
LG Optimus G... Locked bootloader. (I held one and went "eww" but that's a personal thing), A year after ICS was released, Jellybean has been out for months, and yet LG releases this 'flagship' phone with ICS, tsk tsk. No 1700 band, 545.50 Unlocked. Only one of the versions has a micro-sd slot too, bizarro.
Galaxy S3! Personally the T-999 T-mobile Galaxy S3 is my personal choice over the Nexus 4. BUT Problems?!!? For me it was price at $550, the build quality of the phone, and the physical big home button. I've read too many reports of them cracking on their own (while in Otterbox Defender cases or whatever other big boxy tank armor people buy) because of the crappy plastic used and also overheating during usage or charging. A phone's screen shouldn't break on it's own sitting on your desk. Those issues are rather personal so really the problem is price for a 6 month old phone.
Anyway enough of this, there are many things which aren't negatives to some and other things that definitely are negatives that I haven't included, such as motorola camera quality or something along those lines.
Honestly, where can you buy a 299 or 349 dollar unlocked smartphone with the latest hardware (except that 5" panel on the HTC DNA), latest Android OS which is also vanilla, predictably tons of dev support, and isn't a plastic pile of junk? Although the Nexus is lacking LTE, enough storage for many, less than best battery life, and whatever other gripes there are out there. Also the benchmarks are meh, personally I could care less how fast it runs a benchmark. There gets to be a point where speed no longer matters, sort of like the difference between 100 FPS and 400 FPS when playing a video game or watching a movie. I mean if the phone can load apps faster than the Optimus G by .001 seconds who really cares? It's about real world usage to me, not benchmark scores. That's me though and I realize that isn't everyone's opinion.
So anyway if someone wants more storage and awesome battery but doesn't care about being forced into a contract, they won't mind getting a Razr Maxx HD. But if another person wants to avoid contracts, have the freedom to use their phone internationally even, with the latest operating system the Nexus 4 is the best bet because of the price with the S3 tailing behind it due to custom roms.
Someone could assign a point value to every category and rate phones across the board, but the amount of points per category, or rather the importance of certain traits over others, is totally independent for each person out there shopping for a device.
Long story short here, every phone has its drawbacks and issues, it's a question of which has the least amount of flaws when weighing the needs/desires of the consumer.
The Nexus 4 does the best job of fitting my needs, but it isn't perfect. I doubt any phone ever will be, but that's beside the point. The point is what is here and now available to chose from. The point is that battery benchmark graph that I can't link due to lack of posts. I would have never bought a Nexus 4 like I did if the price wasn't so good. If it were 600 dollars I would have passed and held out for custom roms to keep me afloat on the latest version of Android.
(If you're pissed I made a thread about this don't reply telling me that. Just let it sink to the bottom of the forum to rot and die.)
Thanks and happy phone hunting.

The optimus g has basically the same hardware specs and gets great battery life. Is it wrong to expect the n4 to get somewhere in the same ballpark? N4 appears to have just average battery life which is odd. I still plan on getting it.
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I wish I could want an iPhone because honestly I'm tired of rooting and tweaking and iPhone gets great battery no matter what you do.
But I love stock android and honestly I feel like I am chasing a dream. First android phone was epic touch 4g then I rooted awesome battery and ICS skins. Then ICS came out battery life was crap and issues. Ran that way for months. Then jellybean waiting for Samsung kernel horrible performance. Sprint data slow as crap. Then got a gal nex no 4g now slower 3g. LTE is a mile away and it is slow.
Then nexus 4 announced no sprint version leaving sprint for T-Mobile now trying to buy four nexus 4's for the family must wait again.
So at this point if battery life sucks so be it I'm stuck chasing a dream.
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I wish I could want an iPhone because honestly I'm tired of rooting and tweaking and iPhone gets great battery no matter what you do.
But I love stock android and honestly I feel like I am chasing a dream. First android phone was epic touch 4g then I rooted awesome battery and ICS skins. Then ICS came out battery life was crap and issues. Ran that way for months. Then jellybean waiting for Samsung kernel horrible performance. Sprint data slow as crap. Then got a gal nex no 4g now slower 3g. LTE is a mile away and it is slow.
Then nexus 4 announced no sprint version leaving sprint for T-Mobile now trying to buy four nexus 4's for the family must wait again.
So at this point if battery life sucks so be it I'm stuck chasing a dream.
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Trust me, the iPhone sucks without jailbreak. Especially when you are used to Android (even Stock Android) you will miss so many options. You will miss the tweaking (just because iOS sucks already). And btw, the iPhone is small as sh**.. so no wonder it's battery will last longer. How ever, browsing/writing textes is a pain in the ass on the iPhone.
Had the iPhone 3G (omfg) and the 4S.... glad I could sell them on ebay to some brainfart.
And btw: Once you get to jailbreaking your iPhone it's all problems and annoying work.

Battery is a pretty big one for me, as well as storage.. lte not so much, waiting a while to decide but I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a note 2 little more expensive but I can prolly get the woman to let me spend my own money on it :good:
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Don't really need 4G.
See, the problem with the iPhone is, that it's an Apple product.
Apple-Hate aside, what people must realize, if they are in an area that offers 4G connectivity, it will also offer FULL 3G connection. The hypothetical max of HSPA+ is 42mb/s which if you're lucky, you can get close to. Also, TheVerge got 5Mb/s in a Metropolitan area, which is more than sufficient. I leech off StarBucks wifi, getting 450 KB/S and can watch HD video and anything I realistically need.
Please tell me someone, who uses 100% of their 4G.

Yeah once your used to android its hard to leave but my thing is since the iPhone 4 apple has had a smooth working phone with great battery. I have used about 10 android phones and honestly the iPhone 4 runs better than most and it is three years old.
Now things are getting better because the specs are crazy in all these phones. But sometimes I envy the apple sheep because they think they have the best and are satisfied with it.
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Sending back N6 as N4 seems just as good - CRAZY??

Title says it all: so am I missing something? The n6 just isn't much different in real world use as I have n4 with Nexus 5 experience rom L5.02. The camera is slow and in use over holiday no better than n4. Defaulted to wife's iphone 5s instead.
Screen size is nice and I have big hands, but balance is off and phone too heavy it seems, though was getting used to it.
Nonetheless, called google to return it - going back Monday.
Any thoughts?
Dave

You must definitely have bad vision if you think N6 camera is no better than N4.

Wouldn't want to go back to my N5. Only had this today though

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You must definitely have bad vision if you think N6 camera is no better than N4.
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I know the specs are better, and I did get some decent shots, just had to work for them just as with n4. Really disappointed in speed as well.

New software takes time to get dialed in
Have fun down grading

To each his own.
If you don't feel it's worth it then best to get your money back.

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I know the specs are better, and I did get some decent shots, just had to work for them just as with n4. Really disappointed in speed as well.
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Wait, do you mean Note 4 or Nexus 4?

Nexus 4. I hear you all, just don't see n6 as much of a "real world" upgrade over the n4. I've drooled over this phone since it was leaked as shamu. Always wanted and needed larger screen. This is about 45 grams heavier and girth is unbalanced, always feel like I am about to drop it. So just can't justify it all things considered.
But thanks for thoughts.
BTW, I will have 3 useless cases now.

And researched the heck out of it. Fully aware of the great specs, they haven't translated into much of a difference. I was hoping opinions would show me something new, or that maybe I have a bad version. Mine is blue, 32.

I came to a Nexus 6 from the Nexus 4 I've been using since it was originally released and I honestly don't know what you're smoking.

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I came to a Nexus 6 from the Nexus 4 I've been using since it was originally released and I honestly don't know what you're smoking.
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Might be a slip of the keyboard.... Switch Nexus 4 with Note 4 and some of it makes sense.
Its a different choice, but I prefer the lack of TouchWiz.

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I came to a Nexus 6 from the Nexus 4 I've been using since it was originally released and I honestly don't know what you're smoking.
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Smoking?!! Good one, so what are your main reasons you prefer n6?

I'll take those useless cases off your hands
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davewaave said:
Smoking?!! Good one, so what are your main reasons you prefer n6?
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For me it's mostly screen size and resolution, battery size, internal storage size, memory, gpu, camera, and build quality.

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For me it's mostly screen size and resolution, battery size, internal storage size, memory, gpu, camera, and build quality.
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That about sums it up!

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That about sums it up!
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Fair enough. Agree about build quality, and good service, no bs on return. Maybe everything is software related but didn't want to mess w roms until sure keeping it.

davewaave said:
Nexus 4. I hear you all, just don't see n6 as much of a "real world" upgrade over the n4. I've drooled over this phone since it was leaked as shamu. Always wanted and needed larger screen. This is about 45 grams heavier and girth is unbalanced, always feel like I am about to drop it. So just can't justify it all things considered.
But thanks for thoughts.
BTW, I will have 3 useless cases now.
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If you feel this way you have already made the change. Follow your feels get Note 4
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Using a phone with Nexus 4's specs these days is perfectly fine. Millions of iPhone 6 users can't be wrong.

I can see the point of the OP in terms of size and handling. They are two completely different animals. I have an N4 with a broken sim slot so I keep it on the charger next to my bed and use it as a Wi-Fi device. When sitting next to my N6, I usually grab the N4 for many tasks like typing because it feels so perfect in the hand.
The N6 is a majestic phone that blows the N4 away on so many levels, but if handling is high on the list of priorities which is sounds like it is for the OP, I can understand. Also the N4 screen has whiter whites which I prefer. I'm just saying that it isn't as crazy as it sounds depending on what you value.

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I can see the point of the OP in terms of size and handling. They are two completely different animals. I have an N4 with a broken sim slot so I keep it on the charger next to my bed and use it as a Wi-Fi device. When sitting next to my N6, I usually grab the N4 for many tasks like typing because it feels so perfect in the hand.
The N6 is a majestic phone that blows the N4 away on so many levels, but if handling is high on the list of priorities which is sounds like it is for the OP, I can understand. Also the N4 screen has whiter whites which I prefer. I'm just saying that it isn't as crazy as it sounds depending on what you value.
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And I gave in and have decided to keep phone!

decided to move on

I've had some great use out of my Nexus 4. As a phone, I've absolutely loved it and when I upgrade to Lollipop, I felt like it was reborn, but unfortunately the last few months have proved testing, coming across great new phones that all have MicroSD slots to expand them and unfortunately with just 16GB of internal memory, I'm finding it increasingly hard to use my phone to my enjoyment. Sure, I could dump all my photos onto the Cloud, or I could backup to my computer, or I could do something else... but the point is, I don't want to. I wanted my Nexus 4 to have an SD slot, and I knew I was taking a risk years ago when I bought it. Luckily, it hasn't manifested itself like I expected, although maybe that's because I was careful (no games, no music, routinely deleting old stuff to clean it up, backing up videos onto my FTP server when it got too full etc).
My Nexus 4 has been a terrific device, and since the Lollipop upgrade, has felt like a brand new phone, and if it wasn't for the lack of expandable memory, I wouldn't have considered getting rid of it, but unfortunately the time has come.
I've now switched to the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G. It's a budget device (costing just £108 as I didn't pay tax) but is more powerful and has a bigger screen. It also has 4G and expandable memory. It's an interesting upgrade for a Nexus user. I feel like I've gone from a premium device to a budget device and that will take some getting used to, but I think the pros outweigh the cons.
Interestingly, Xiaomi has a huge following in China, India, Malaysia, Singapore, whereas Nexus has a huge following across the rest of the world so I will be experiencing how custom ROM's appear for this phone in a totally different way.
Anyway, as the end draws near for Nexus 4, I'm sure a few of you will be jumping ship soon too, but one things for sure, it's still a great device if you can handle the lack of internal storage, so good on those who do

I have 300 songs, 20 apps, Nokia Here maps of my country (300mb), a few HD videos, 50-ish photos and i still have 5,6GB left.
I know some people use their phones for multimedia and easily fill up even 32gigs, but Nexus 4 isnt a multimedia phone, not with its 2100mah battery and its 4.7" screen
I'm thinking of giving my Nexus 4 to sister this summer and getting something new, but still haven't decided what to get thats not very expensive but good, and i don't want a Nexus 5 because it's too similar to Nexus 4 with similar problems

Mashed_Potatoes said:
I have 300 songs, 20 apps, Nokia Here maps of my country (300mb), a few HD videos, 50-ish photos and i still have 5,6GB left.
I know some people use their phones for multimedia and easily fill up even 32gigs, but Nexus 4 isnt a multimedia phone, not with its 2100mah battery and its 4.7" screen
I'm thinking of giving my Nexus 4 to sister this summer and getting something new, but still haven't decided what to get thats not very expensive but good, and i don't want a Nexus 5 because it's too similar to Nexus 4 with similar problems
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I don't use my phone for multimedia as such, but I do take a lot of photos. I had about 5.9 GB's of photos on it. which, btw, were a nightmare to get off seeing as MTP is seemingly completely incapable of transferring such a large number of files (ended up installing an FTP server on the phone and using FileZilla instead). Considering you only get about 12GB of usable data (much of which is taken up by apps) meant I had very little left. I do get lots of WhatsApp photos too and I guess I've been lazy about deleting them. Ultimately, I grew frustrated about the fact I was constantly running out of space and without deleting stuff, I really couldn't do much about it. I spent a lot of time going through and deleting stuff but I only ever freed up about 1GB or 2GB which meant I was never too far away from filling my phone.
I kept hearing the argument of 'go cloud', 'cloud storage', 'welcome to the cloud', 'use the Nexus with the cloud', but when it came to actually use the cloud it consistently failed on me. I took several videos at a concert last year amounting to a few GB's. I figured this is exactly what the cloud is for seeing as they weren't desperately needed on my phone as such. I tried to upload them (tried both 3G and WiFi), and the Google Drive app seemed completely incapable of handling large files. It was fine for images, or small videos, but uploading these larger videos, it lagged to the point the phone became totally unresponsive and despite waiting for hours, nothing happened and I eventually had to reboot the phone. I googled the issue and there wasn't much detail of it on the Internet. Perhaps I was a rare case but it meant I had to upload them to my FTP server which wasn't ideal either.
I was very close to getting rid of the N4 when it was running KitKat, as I felt it had lost all its bite. I've had phones in the past go stale with time and ultimately, I was happy to move on. With the Nexus 4, I upgraded to Lollipop and it felt like a brand new phone. It totally changed my mind, but then I started having the storage problems again and despite persevering I just got bored. Maybe I should have given out to the cloud, but as an option as is, I wasn't all that keen automatically sync'ing every photo the cloud. Plus, I never felt Google quite got the implementation of the cloud right. Ironically, my new phone, the Xiaomi, they've got it exactly how I always envisioned Google would do it, in that their Gallery app has a local tab and an 'Online' tab, so you can sync all your Gallery photos to the cloud and instantly pull them, rather than having to go on the Photos app or Drive app or whatever. On the whole, it's just a better implementation. Daft considering it's not required on a phone now kitted with a massive Samsung UHS SD card.
I've sold my Nexus 4 to my old man for £70. About £30 cheaper than what I could on eBay but I couldn't be arsed with the hassle. He'll use it and it'll be a great phone for him (his S2 is as good as dead it's that slow now).

Unfortunately, I wanted the Nexus 6 but Google let me down by overpricing it. If they'd dropped the price of the N5, I might have considered another go, but I'm not willing to pay full price for a phone that is a year old. No chance.
I guess I should have upgraded to the N5 when it first came out... but hey ho, we live and learn. I'm now a Xiaomi customer lol

I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.

The Redmi Note 4G is in some ways a downgrade, IMO. Can't argue too much though, given the cost. Better camera, SD slot (but less native storage), bigger screen, bigger battery. But the SD400/Adreno 305 is inferior to to the S4 Pro/320 that the Nexus 4 has, despite the tick higher clock speed. But if it works for you, then great.

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I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.
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Interestingly, I think you'd be surprised that Xiaomi seem to have a decent reputation for updates, but more importantly there's a massive userbase. I was astonished by how many custom roms are already appearing and there's already a pretty stable cm12 except minus the camera.
Lollipop was a huge upgrade for me on nexus 4. The phone was fast and felt supercharged. To be fair, perhaps I was lucky.
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The Redmi Note 4G is in some ways a downgrade, IMO. Can't argue too much though, given the cost. Better camera, SD slot (but less native storage), bigger screen, bigger battery. But the SD400/Adreno 305 is inferior to to the S4 Pro/320 that the Nexus 4 has, despite the tick higher clock speed. But if it works for you, then great.
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the GPU is a downgrade but I'm not a massive games player. The less native storage is solved by folder mount. The CPU is about the same, roughly. Perhaps a tiny downgrade although Antutu puts this above the N4. It also brings new connectivity in 4G and better WiFi I believe.
The cost is unbeatable.

How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges

Mashed_Potatoes said:
I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.
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Could you please point me in the right direction as to where and how to get unofficial 5.1 port? Waiting for OTA is sooo frustrating

bjonre said:
How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges
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A new battery is only about $20 USD. Just saying...

bjonre said:
How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges
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Goodbye buy then.

i can't understand why "new thread"?

Well, a quick update. It didn't take long, but I'm currently flashing ROM's left right and centre lol, trying to pick which one I prefer the most. There goes my genuine attempts to avoid flashing any custom ROM's and giving it a chance to impress in its stock form.
CM12 is seriously good but missing camera functionality at the moment. Everything else is stable but the camera is a killer for me.
CM11 is fully stable so I think I'll end up settling for that.
MIUI6 is fantastic in it's ways but unfortunately, is a bit too overwhelming. Too much pretty stuff at the expense of genuine usability.
MIUI5 i've not tried yet.
Here's the thing though, I'm already embracing my ability to use an SD card. I could never perform a full Nandroid on my N4, realistically.... I've already got one for this phone... and I've got a load of ROM's dumped so I can test.
Performance wise, I'd say this phone is about the same or slightly less than the N4, but the fact it has an FM radio a SD slot, and a few other cool features makes up for it.... and the big screen, which does a cracking job of trying to look HD (it isn't quite HD).
One feature which CM12 is offering but I'm yet to try is an FM Tx. Now that would seriously be an incredible feature if it actually works. Probably doesn't though to be fair. However the MI3 and MI4 both have FM Tx's so who knows?
In truth though, I do miss the N4. It had a certain charm about it that this phone doesn't have. This phone is a budget phone, and it's very obvious. The Nexus 4 was a budget phone, but was built like a premium device. I really do feel like I've gone from a premium phone to a budget phone and it's certainly noticeable to a degree. That said, the touchscreen feels more responsive than the N4 and the colour reproduction is superior. The battery also blows the N4 out of the water and I have to say, it's amazing how long you can get out of this phone. I'm a serious power user, so the N4 really wasn't appropriate for me.... but this is ideal. The N4 however, is the first phone I've ever owned that I didn't hate by the end.
It's a shame the LG Optimus G had no SD slot either. I would have happily gone for that.
Regardless, happy at the moment and enjoying the liberation of plenty of space. I'm still watching the price of the Huawei Ascend Mate 7 though. That's a fantastic beast and would be my first choice if it wasn't so expensive.

gnome_mo said:
Could you please point me in the right direction as to where and how to get unofficial 5.1 port? Waiting for OTA is sooo frustrating
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There are some 5.1 ports here in the Nexus 4 forum

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There are some 5.1 ports here in the Nexus 4 forum
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I'm wondering if Google will put out a 5.1 release. Quite obvious that the Nexus 4 hardware is easily capable, so really, it will be down to whether Google are ready to kill off the old girl. At least you know with Nexus that there will always be custom ROM's available to support you down the line eh?

skezza said:
I'm wondering if Google will put out a 5.1 release. Quite obvious that the Nexus 4 hardware is easily capable, so really, it will be down to whether Google are ready to kill off the old girl. At least you know with Nexus that there will always be custom ROM's available to support you down the line eh?
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Nexus 4 will get 5.1 I'll guarantee you that.

flopower1996 said:
Nexus 4 will get 5.1 I'll guarantee you that.
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Good stuff. I think in a time where phones are now becoming almost too powerful, the only thing that Google need to get sorted is that the updates keep coming and that manufacturers should be expected to provide them too.

Thanks for sharing
Best of luck to you and your new device

Ha, one benefit of this new phone. For some reason, Three don't know when I'm tethering lol
I'm enjoying all the Tethering'y goodness, without the limits lol.

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Ha, one benefit of this new phone. For some reason, Three don't know when I'm tethering lol
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This should be perfectly possible on the Nexus 4. I do it with T-Mobile here in the US.