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Initial impressions of N4 - I love it.

I've had my N4 for a about 4 days. I've only had one Android device previously, a Nexus S which I bought at launch nearly two years ago, and which I've been using ever since then. I've played around with some other Android devices here and there like the GS2, GS3, OneX, OneS, and Galaxy Nexus. This new N4 blows everything out of the water, IMO. It is SO fast and smooth, and the screen quality/resolution leaves nothing to be desired. The form factor is beautiful, camera takes great photos (but I'm no photo-expert), video functions work great, etc. Even though there's no improved functionality (or features) compared to my NS, the user experience is just so much better.
Also, HSPA+ speeds are so good, that I can't imagine why anybody would complain about lack of LTE. I'm consistently getting between 8 and 14Mbps download speeds.
Nice work Google and LG!

It really is a blessing for those who only need 16GB and have T-mobile

I've had mine since last week and it's been the smoothest and fastest android experience. I really enjoy how everything works so effortlessly. Battery life has been better than I expected too.
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Kushblow said:
It really is a blessing for those who only need 16GB and have T-mobile
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I have all my music housed in Google Play Music (on cloud), and my photos set to upload to Google+, and I don't have any high-storage apps or games, so my storage needs are very small. I could have easily made do with the 8GB version.

ddb540 said:
I have all my music housed in Google Play Music (on cloud), and my photos set to upload to Google+, and I don't have any high-storage apps or games, so my storage needs are very small. I could have easily made do with the 8GB version.
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Photos are resized when uploaded to Google+, with the longest side being reduced to 2000px. Just in case you've overlooked this and delete the originals!
I recall that Dropbox auto upload retains the original image, and doesn't consume any of your space, or rather they give you another 500MB every 500MB you auto upload!

LadFromWales85 said:
Photos are resized when uploaded to Google+, with the longest side being reduced to 2000px. Just in case you've overlooked this and delete the originals!
I recall that Dropbox auto upload retains the original image, and doesn't consume any of your space, or rather they give you another 500MB every 500MB you auto upload!
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Good tip, thanks!

The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.

akarol said:
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
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If those cameras are better it does not mean the n4 camera is not good. Why so harsh?
Edit: And what are you basing this on anyway? You don't seem to own them all.

akarol said:
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
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Ppl also don't use real cameras or they wouldnt praise any phone....

tweaked said:
Ppl also don't use real cameras or they wouldnt praise any phone....
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Doesn't have to be national geographic Pulitzer quality in order to be a compelling shot, or just good enough to tell everyone what you ate for lunch with a good quality image.

akarol said:
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
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Interesting, I've used all three of the cameras you listed and I think the N4 displays much truer colors. I guess if oversaturation is your thing go with the Samsung. The OneX camera is comparable to the N4s
Love the Nexus 4 haters.....
Newsflash, not one Nexus owner bought the phone because of the camera. Like most high end devices the Nexus has a great camera that does the job just as good if not better than most out there.
Can't the OP be happy with his new phone?
Funny bring up the camera because its the only thing on the S3 that's even in the N4s league. Oh and what did you pay on contract for the S3? I know unlocked they're around 550. Sucker.

I have the N4 and came from the Verizon GNex. The only concern I had when I bought the phone was going to be the lack of LTE. I have the N4 on T-Mobile and running side by side speed tests, I have to say that the N4 beat the Gnex almost every time.

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I don't understand why people care so much about LTE when the speeds us carriers provide over LTE are nowhere near what the technology is capable of, and often times slower than real world HSPA+ speeds. I'd much rather use HSPA+ if that means better battery life, better coverage, and often times faster speeds. Besides, HSPA+ is already sometimes faster than my home connection. I really don't see the need for 10+Mbps mobile connections at the moment, especially if I'm paying $100+ a month only to get a 1-2Gb cap on Verizon or ATT.

I am glad you like it but as you said you have been on Nexus S for 2 years and playing around here and there with other devices isnt really using and therefore you dont know if something better is out there or not. Enjoy your phone, just dont exaggerate it.

EvoYas said:
I am glad you like it but as you said you have been on Nexus S for 2 years and playing around here and there with other devices isnt really using and therefore you dont know if something better is out there or not. Enjoy your phone, just dont exaggerate it.
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As another user coming from the Nexus S it doesn't surprise me how it is difficult to satisfy people that have to keep jumping to the next latest and greatest device. Over the last few weeks it has constantly amazed me how many people are ditching really great recent phones such as the S3 and one x to get something only slightly newer and (not in everyone's experience) better. I embraced my Nexus S for all it's shortcomings and evolved it through software over 18 months and the great thing for me now is I can truly appreciate how great a leap forward my new phone is. Personally I think it's a suckers game to keep changing phones every few months and unsurprising how much more critical such users will be of their newly acquired hardware.
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Well to some of us its a very expensive hobby. I have as of now 3 phones including the 8GB N4. I enjoy them all really, no single phone will have everything.

EvoYas said:
Well to some of us its a very expensive hobby. I have as of now 3 phones including the 8GB N4. I enjoy them all really, no single phone will have everything.
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It's definitely a hobby for me as well - but mine is about Android and how it adapts and evolves. My Nexus S is running a later version of Android than anything other than the N4. The hardware has always been secondary to me and I guess that's how we differ. I'm sure I will see several phones overtake me in the coming months - meanwhile I will enjoy getting the most out of the N4 until the right time comes again to move on.
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EvoYas said:
Well to some of us its a very expensive hobby. I have as of now 3 phones including the 8GB N4. I enjoy them all really, no single phone will have everything.
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Hobby for me as well.. And a damn expensive one too lol. I buy all my phones sim free/ unlocked so i dont get tied to any carrier and have owned a lot of Android devices.
I was gona give the N4 a pass, but since I live in Canada i can take advantage of LTE. Just ordered a Nexus 4 16gb when it became available earlier today and have a shipping time of 1-2 weeks. Hope it gets delivered before Christmas!
LTE is a big plus for ME. Out of the 8 popular networks here, 6 of them offer LTE. If its easy for someone to say that he/she dont care for LTE, chances are they never tried it or live in a poorly covered area. But it is understandable since LTE coverage is limited compared to HSPA. Luckily for me i live in an LTE area and yes i am spoiled by it. I even traded my Tegra 3 HTC One X for the LTE Snapdragon one. Just my 2 cents

LTE is amazing no doubts, and I am lucky enough to have an unlimited data plan from way back in the day ao I am grandfathered in as long as I dont upgrade the phone on the contract price which I havent in ages and I dont plan to anyway. But yes, LTE speeds are a God send.

akarol said:
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
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The gs3 camera is cool but you can only use it with two hands. When I tried to take one hand they would always come out kinds blurry. I think it's because how big the phone is and the shape it kinda slides in your hand.
Loving my nexus though. It is easier to hold.

Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?

I actually bought the N5 before getting the N4. The fact is, I'm gonna get all of the Nexus devices (all new in box) just because I can. And I plan on using most of them.
But anyway, for those that aren't as Nexus obsessed as me, why did you stay with the N4? I know one answer I'm going to hear: "because it still does what I need". (fair enough)
Just interested in what people think.

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Good response. Thanks for sharing.
Some of us are enthusiasts interested in other people's opinions and experiences.

I stayed with the N4 because I think it's more handy. It's a little smaller than the nexus 5 and since I have smaller hands I prefer the nexus 4. Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)

I stayed because I didnt find mych difference and also Im in a condition that buying a new device will probably waste my time ! And also planing to move to google silver or iphone 6
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japmeet said:
Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.

I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!

my reason :
- I got my N4 cheap (got $100 discount when I bought it).
- screen density is more than enough for my poor eyes. (tell you the truth I really can tell differences between 415ppi vs 318ppi).
- CPU sector, for me myself my nexus 4 is already fast enough. I mean this is a phone not a laptop/pc, I don't need huge clock speed or ram to play games.
only one two cent personal opinion.

japmeet said:
I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.

wolfen69 said:
I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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It is a great phone, no questions there

Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?
I guess because not everyone is as independently wealthy as you. Geez, I just bought the thing only a year and a half ago. Assuming that someone keeps making OS updates for this phone on this forum to keep up with security updates, I will keep it for around the same time-frame as I refresh my main desktop computer, about 5 to 7 years. Heck, my older second desktop computer is 11 years old and runs various versions of Linux as well as XP just fine (Although I disabled XP because it was finally discontinued.) I understand it is the constantly changing hardware that forces Google to very quickly stop supporting OS upgrades on older devices (really just an excuse to sell more devices), but it is really ridiculous that my Nexus 4 will shortly become obsolete by Google's standards, unlike Microsoft who supports their operating systems for a very reasonable amount of time.

I stayed with my Nexus 4 because Nexus 5 didn't offer a significant difference in performance. I was able to compare that side by side, and the performance of my Nexus 4 was just fast as Nexus 5. So i saw no point in change.
As i'm a non gamer guy, i think Nexus 5 will perform better games than Nexus 4, but i really don't play much.
Personally speaking, changing phone every year (some people always want to stay on fashion), seems to me like throwing money away, i think it's better change of 2 in 2 years, then you'll notice more technology improvement.
Another situation, was when i saw the Nexus 5...i was totally disappointed with his design..i mean look at the Nexus 4...it has an amazing design, glass on the back, all seems to be in harmony.
In Nexus 5 it's just a phone...don't know...lack of personality, i guess....lol
Now, i'll be waiting for Nexus 6...let's see if it worth...

Most of the replies posted in the thread apply to me as well. Some additional thoughts that kept me away from the n5:
It feels better in my hands and the size was perfect. The main things I liked were the corners of the nexus 4 were more curved than the 5, and that the tapered edges of the n4 screen felt natural.
I also preferred the n4's "discrete" camera compared to the gigantic wart that's on the back of the n5.
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I stayed because I won't jump to another phone until I see significant improvement in technology as nowadays it's just spec bumps. I think the 4th is more than enough to last for another 2 years. I'll probably change next year with the coming of L and 64bit phones and only if it really matters. Oh, and I'm not rich enough to change phone every year ?
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wolfen69 said:
That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
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No CandyKat? It is there, right here.
My reason? Saving up my money for my masters degree studies.

I got the N4 on contract which isn't up until March next year.
Being a student I couldn't afford to buy it outright, and obviously couldn't afford to buy the N5 when it came out.
I will, however, be buying the Nexus 6 the moment it's released. I should have my student loan through by then.
Priorities, right?

I think the Nexus 4 is a gorgeous looking phone (I'm a sucker for the glitter back) and I like how the edges curve as well, it is a unique design. It's also one of the most comfortable device to grip. Lastly, the size of the screen and phone are very similar to the Moto X, which is the ideal size for me. I believe LG went with cheaper production cost with the N5. I originally sold my N4, but when Android L preview image was announced, I was dying to try it out, so I bought another N4. I'm not planning to sell it again (I hope), there is a charm about this device that I like.

I to am a nexus lover. I did buy a n5, I do use it as my daily phone for the most part. but I do occasionally use my n4 as my phone as well. actually, I use my n4 and n5 every day. my n4 I use daily as a WiFi device at work. and it is still a great device! but those that say that the n4 is on par with the n5 when it comes to speed, are just kidding themselves. sure, in the ui, its just as fast as my n5. heck, my gnex is as fast in the ui as my n5. but I'm not talking ui, as any phone(even my nexus s) can have a fast ui if you set it up right. I'm talking opening apps/process, and computing. the n5 blows my n4 away when it comes to apps opening, and the speed of actually computing. anyways, that doesn't take away from my n4, as I do love it as part of my family

I stayed because it wasn't that BIG of an upgrade from the N4 to be honest. Definitely getting the N6 whenever its announce/released.

I got the my Nexus 4 when Google put them on sale last year before the 5's release. I'm in the process of convincing the wife that I need (aka want) a Nexus 5.

A worthy Successor to the Nexus 5

Note: I apologise if this isn't the appropriate section but I couldn't think of a better one than the N5 General forum. English isn't my native language and although I proof read the post several times it's still going to be fairly awkward.
The Nexus 4 and 5* were high end devices with unlocked bootloaders, direct support from Google, large communities and they were sold at a very affordable price off-contract.
The Nexus 6 is a high end device with an (supposedly) unlocked bootloader, direct support from Google, a large community...
...but it costs 300€ more. That's 380 US dollars. Oh and it's also a 6 inch phablet. Both ensures that the N6 isn't an option for a lot of people, myself included.
I came to the conclusion the N5 doesn't actually have a successor.
That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months and I don't know what to get. There are the usual suspects from Samsung, HTC, LG and all the other brands but they aren't the same as the Nexus. They all miss the extremely clean Android experience. Even the N5's design is very modest (something I'm missing in the Nexus 6). The software is arguably worse, they don't get direct updates and they probably have a smaller dev community too. They all are much more expensive than the Nexus 5 was in 2013.
The OnePlus One still hasn't been launched yet and I would prefer a phone from one of the known brands.
Can I hope for a Nexus 5 (2014)?
And if I don't: Is there even a spiritual successor to the Nexus line of smartphones?
*You may argue with battery life and camera but they were still extremely competitive when they were released.

the moto X 2014 developer's edition
thank me later.....

Why do you "need" a new phone? I'm only getting the nexus 6 because I'm a nexus fan boy. If they said oh were nut making a new nexus I would be totally fine with the nexus 5 for another year. It's still blazing fast. Even faster with lollipop.
If I was too get a new phone right now and I didn't get a nexus it would be a don't z3 or z3 compact.

Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet

aletto said:
That is a huge issue for me because I will need a new phone in the next few months
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Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:

Buy the Nexus 5 in a different color once Android L come out.
Bam, you've got yourself a new phone.

In my opinion, there is no worthy successor to the N5 yet.
Maybe next year. A Nexus 5 (2015) with Snapdragon 810, Good 13MP Camera with Sony Exmor sensor and Xenon flash, 4GB RAM, 1080p IPS Display, Good build quality (metal frame), 3200mAh battery and Android M ...that would be a good successor.
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Yakandu said:
Nexus 5 doesn't need a successor yet
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^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.

Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal

CafeKampuchia said:
^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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64 bits wont be any faster than 32, same as PC.

CafeKampuchia said:
^^^ This ^^^
Still a worthy flagship until 64-bit processors come out with apps that can use the potential.
But, if you just want something new, I'd get the OnePlus One. I have both, and my Nexus 5 gets used far less.
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How is the general responsiveness of the 1+1 compared to N5? We all love the N5 for its buttery smooth performance and huge dev support. Is that also there on the 1+1? Thanks.

Primokorn said:
Why???
"Addiction isn't about substance - you aren't addicted to the substance, you are addicted to the alteration of mood that the substance brings." :angel:
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Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?

aletto said:
Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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Atomix86 said:
You didn't say that though, you said you "needed" one. If it's for your mother why not just get a more budget oriented one?
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What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...

arnaud39 said:
Nexus 5 isn't as young as 2013 but he's still the best phone for me :
- performance are very good, not the best in benchmark (41000 antutu v5 cm11 and elementalX) but there isn't any costumize from the constructor, that's why nexus 5 is more stable and the faster
- life time : i hope we will have 2-3 years google update, but we will have update from cyanogenmod after these years and many others workers, galaxy nexus still have many people who make up to date rom and enhancement
- The size is very goo
- the battery isn't very good but i heard that a company is working on a better battery for nexus 5, very easy to install
And futhermore, nexus 5 have one of the best screen, full hd. Phone with quadHD have a battery time like nexus 5 (but have 3200mha) and games performances are better on nexus 5.
But nexus 5 should have metal
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Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested

aletto said:
Why do you assume I'm addicted to anything?
If you must know, my mother would like to get a smartphone and she asked me to handle it. If I was addicted, I wouldn't have worried about price and such, no?
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Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they don't need it.
aletto said:
What else was I supposed to write? Words still elude me at times and I find it challenging to explain myself in a foreign language... if that was too ambiguous; I apologise.
Well I do want to get her the best there is and I was fairly certain it'd be a Nexus. Now that I've been thoroughly disappointed I'm looking for alternatives. I could get her a more budget oriented one, but it'd be less than ideal...
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Giving a N5 to your mother isn't a good idea I think. If you don't have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a 'better phone'.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.

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Do you have a link about the bigger battery thing? I am very interested
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Here is thz link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/official-poll-mugen-extended-internal-t2542589

Primokorn said:
Due to the above point and because a lot of people always want the newest phone even if they dont need it.
Giving a N5 to your mother isnt a good idea I think. If you dont have basic Android knownledges you can quickly complain about battery life and your mother will ask for a better phone.
If I were you I would keep my N5 and buy another phone with a bigger battery for my mother.
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Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.

aletto said:
Okay, there's a bit of miscommunication going on here. When I mentioned in the OP I needed a new phone it was meant for my mother and I didn't mention her because i didn't deem it important. I will keep my N5 and I was going to get her this year's Nexus.
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Get her a Moto G instead. The 2014 edition is similar in size to the N5, and the lesser SoC feels snappy for just about everything besides gaming. Games will still run fine just not at quite the same level as the N5.
It's about $200 USD off contract and comes unlocked if bought direct from Motorola.

waa.. stop crying. the nexus one, nexus s, and the gnex were all more expensive. only the n4 and n5 were less. just because the n6 is bigger and cost more, then its not a replacement? deal with it or don't buy the next nexus. me, I'm always a nexus *****, so I'll get the n6 no matter what, as it IS the next nexus replacement.

Going to nexus 6 from nexus 5?

I'm considering getting the N6 and I was hoping for some thoughts from anyone who had a N5 and moved to the 6. I love my N5 but I just wish it has better battery life. I am honestly torn between the N6 and the Note 4, so I'm hoping some of you can help me make up my mind. [emoji3]
Things I like about the N6: open platform and lots of development, large battery, decent camera, lollipop, and water resistant. I am just a little concerned that it is just too big a phone.
Things I like about the Note: lots of features, S-pen, decent battery, good camera, better form factor than N6, replaceable battery, ability to expand storage via SD card.
I am not thrilled about Touchwiz, and the fact that the At&t variant is totally locked down with no development community.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
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i had a nexus 5 as well, and a 4, galaxy nexus, nexus s, and nexus one. that was my big concern as well, as im not a big guy(5'7"). but, after a week of using the n6, i picked up the n5, and it fekt tiny. really, the n6 ferls just normal size now, but the n5 feels tiny

acts4:12 said:
I'm considering getting the N6 and I was hoping for some thoughts from anyone who had a N5 and moved to the 6. I love my N5 but I just wish it has better battery life. I am honestly torn between the N6 and the Note 4, so I'm hoping some of you can help me make up my mind. [emoji3]
Things I like about the N6: open platform and lots of development, large battery, decent camera, lollipop, and water resistant. I am just a little concerned that it is just too big a phone.
Things I like about the Note: lots of features, S-pen, decent battery, good camera, better form factor than N6, replaceable battery, ability to expand storage via SD card.
I am not thrilled about Touchwiz, and the fact that the At&t variant is totally locked down with no development community.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
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Just my opinion, but I do not like the style of the Galaxy Note nor the Galaxy S series of devices. I think the Nexus 6 is more aesthetically appeasing. But the Nexus 5 is one of my favorites. A powerhouse of a phone in a sleek black jacket.

Have you guys found it a problem to get the N6 in your pockets? How are you getting around with it?
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acts4:12 said:
Have you guys found it a problem to get the N6 in your pockets? How are you getting around with it?
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I was worried about this and got mine in the first wave. Surprisingly I got used to holding and pocketing very quickly (3-4days) and I'm fairly average sized. Now my nexus 5 seems weird to hold

acts4:12 said:
Have you guys found it a problem to get the N6 in your pockets? How are you getting around with it?
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no, it fits just fine. that was my problem, i envisioned it being too big. but its not as big as you think it is. if youf nexus 5 fits in your back pocket, the the nexus 6 will as well.

I've used a Nexus 5, but I never owned one. I have a LG G3 which is a child's toy to me when I use it. As Simms said the Nexus 6 feels normal after a while. I've had mine for a month today actually and I haven't looked back. Once your get a Nexus phablet you don't go back.

I whole heartedly love the N5. I have jumped to many different devices (oneplus, note 3, g3, etc) but i kept coming back to the N5. The battery life drove me nuts, but the dev community is amazing.
I love the feel and real estate of bigger phablet sized phones, I just hate the software. I had the Att version of the note 3, but the dev scene was crippled due to the locked down bootloader and knox. Im not sure if its that way with the note 4 now.
The nexus 6 fits in my pocket fine, but its impossibe to use with one hand unless you have big hands. As mentioned before going back feels small (I felt this way goimg back to the N5 from the oneplus). You do get use to it though.
If you like the stock android, and can deal with the size. By all means go for the N6. It feels like a premium device. If youre into the bells and whistles software wise go for the note. To me the deciding factor is the dev community. Its quiet now for the N6 (mainly because its ridiculously tough to get it right now), but it will pick up as more and more people obtain it. I dont feel confident in the same for the note.
Thats just my opinion. Hopefuly i help.

I like the form factor of the note 4 much better. The nexus 6 is too wide. Having said that you cant beat stock android.
I had a nexus 5 and the nexus 6 is much bigger. I feel like the performance is very similar. Front facing speakers and almost double the battery life (screen on time) is very nice. The phone fits in all the pockets i used for my nexus 5 so carrying it around isn't an issue.

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The nexus 6 fits in my pocket fine, but its impossible to use with one hand unless you have big hands.
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I have huge hands, and i cant use it one-handed.
Still love the Nexus 6 though. I was updating my Nexus 5 tonight, and man it feels like the small iphone 2g in my hands

Thanks so much guys. I feel like if I go the Note route I will be happy for awhile bit then after I get used to the phone Touchwiz will start to get old and I'll be itching for a change. With the N6 I'll always be able to flash something different and keep things interesting.
It seems like all of you guys are getting used to the size of the N6 so that definitely helps alleviate some of those concerns.
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I came from the N5 its a fantastic little phone. The N6 is very large as you know. Too large for some. I'd give it the old 14day college try and see if it's for you. Might not be. It won my heart over but it wasn't immediate mind you. It took some time getting used to the size. As for the display they're very different. Again, something you'll need to experience for yourself to see if its for you. I can't comment on the note 4, but I do come from long line of Sammy devices and still have 3 in our family. Nothing they've done in the last 2 years or are doing at present interests me. They are stagnant, beyond boring, and aesthetically look very cheap. That's the truth and good luck deciding

I have larger hands and can almost use the note with one hand, but it fits in all my pockets just fine.
I came from the N5 as well. The battery life for me is amazing I charge once a day in the morning and don't change again until the next day.
The note may have touch wiz and expandable memory, but when the device gets in more hands (i see people are still having trouble getting it) the development will be great.
an open device with the best specs. and when you get board there will be so many roms you can flash.
I would definitely get the N6.

Nexus 6 is so huge compared to the Nexus 5 feel so kind of you know what I hold the Nexus 5 damn Google Voice sucks laugh
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I came from an N5 and there is no looking back. Everything is better (except one-handed use) and you don't even notice the size after a week.
I'm 6" 185 lbs and wear skinny jeans. Zero issues. Lol.

I have both. I'm still getting use to the size, but I don't mind it to much. The one thing I don't like is I'm super paranoid of dropping it because its so slippery and wide no homo. I would never use a Samsung unless it was a nexus.
fcuk milk, got root?

A question for Note 5 owners who previously owned Note 4

I know the title sounds weird lol but I actually would like to know what are the first impressions of comrades that owned Note 4 previously and switched for the new Note 5. Is the difference that great? I personally own the note 4 and I can tell yes, the note 5 feels a lot better in hand and performance wise on my end. Maybe because my Note 4 was the snapchat quadcore variant instead of the exynos? I am not sure but I definitely prefer the note 5. It makes me happy by just looking at how vibrant and crisp the display is.

Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.

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Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.
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Fully agree
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Fully agree
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I agree as well..also it feels much better in hand. I have zero regrets

If you can live without the memory expansion and removable battery, the Note5 is MUCH better than the Note 4 in every other aspect.

The build quality is better for sure. The battery life doesn't "blow away" by any means, so don't think it will for a second. The performance is better but nothing to make you think foolish for still owning a Note 4.

shollywood said:
The build quality is better for sure. The battery life doesn't "blow away" by any means, so don't think it will for a second. The performance is better but nothing to make you think foolish for still owning a Note 4.
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The battery life is more than great... I get like 6 hours of screen on over a 20 hour day. That's excellent, and certainly at least 30% better than my Note 4 was. And the performance is day and night difference. The Note 4 lagged everywhere. The Note5, not at all so far.

Thank you all for the feedback. Im putting my hand on the note 5 today as I just received the black sapphire 32 gb phone. Will provide my experience after a day of my typical usage. It looks really promising before i even start using it.

So I have been testing the note 5 for a full day yesterday and it does really feels much smoother and fun to use than the note 4. The display makes you happy by just looking at it. It outperforms note 4 in playing heavy graphic demanding games and it is really fun using social media with. I like this device too much that I am not using my iphone 6 plus for the whole day, even for call quality I preferred the note 5. The design feels so premium in hand as well. I like the device.

It's simply better in every respect than the 4. My wife still has the 4 and it looks so dated to me. I used the move as an opportunity to go 'cloud' on everything and it hasn't impacted me one bit. In fact, it's more secure as an SD can be removed from a stolen device whereas a loss device can be remotely reset or can't be logged into. Battery has been fine although I tend to nervously charge at every opportunity! It's faster, snapier, smoother, more responsive, better screen, lighter, thinner and easier to hold, and the ability to unlock we just by touching the home button is the biggest benefit ever (as my work forces lock every time the device times out). It's by far the best device I have ever owned. And it looks fantastic!
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Not being facetious, but what was your (previous posters) setup on the N4? Rooted, custom ROM, Xposed, etc?

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Note 5 performance blows the 4 away. Night and day. And battery life is much better as well.
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I should have quoted you guys earlier when I asked the question above, but I'll ask it again... What was your N4 setup? Were you rooted, running a custom ROM, using Xposed, etc? And are you rooted on your Note 5? If not, do you plan to be?
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Fully agree
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NiquiSE said:
I agree as well..also it feels much better in hand. I have zero regrets
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KarimSalloum said:
If you can live without the memory expansion and removable battery, the Note5 is MUCH better than the Note 4 in every other aspect.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
It's simply better in every respect than the 4. My wife still has the 4 and it looks so dated to me. I used the move as an opportunity to go 'cloud' on everything and it hasn't impacted me one bit. In fact, it's more secure as an SD can be removed from a stolen device whereas a loss device can be remotely reset or can't be logged into. Battery has been fine although I tend to nervously charge at every opportunity! It's faster, snapier, smoother, more responsive, better screen, lighter, thinner and easier to hold, and the ability to unlock we just by touching the home button is the biggest benefit ever (as my work forces lock every time the device times out). It's by far the best device I have ever owned. And it looks fantastic!
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So I have been testing the note 5 for a full day yesterday and it does really feels much smoother and fun to use than the note 4. The display makes you happy by just looking at it. It outperforms note 4 in playing heavy graphic demanding games and it is really fun using social media with. I like this device too much that I am not using my iphone 6 plus for the whole day, even for call quality I preferred the note 5. The design feels so premium in hand as well. I like the device.
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Thanks for your responses. Just trying to put your comments in perspective.

ATT stock rom, unrooted. Same on both devices.

All I have to say is that it took a couple of OTAs for the note 4 to have the bugs and smalls problems ironed out. The Note 5 was amazing out of the box. I am very happy with my note 5, although my note 4 is my second favorite phone

second consecutive day using the Note 5 and it is really much better than my Quad-Core Snapdragon Note 4.

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All I have to say is that it took a couple of OTAs for the note 4 to have the bugs and smalls problems ironed out. The Note 5 was amazing out of the box. I am very happy with my note 5, although my note 4 is my second favorite phone
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Speak for yourself. The AT&T Note 4 had hit or miss GPS that was made better and worse but never good with multiple updates. One of the updates caused my battery life to drop by about 15% and it was never awe inspiring to begin with. The W8 versions are practically carrier unmolested which is why your experience is probably different than mine. I loved my Note 4; there was nothing out there that I thought was better. But, at least the way I use it, the Note 5 is in a different league.

Mine was stock at&t. I forgot about that awful gps. I even got a replacement from att because of it.
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Speak for yourself. The AT&T Note 4 had hit or miss GPS that was made better and worse but never good with multiple updates. One of the updates caused my battery life to drop by about 15% and it was never awe inspiring to begin with. The W8 versions are practically carrier unmolested which is why your experience is probably different than mine. I loved my Note 4; there was nothing out there that I thought was better. But, at least the way I use it, the Note 5 is in a different league.
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So we're still talking about stock unrooted?
I just say this because I'm considering my next device, and I know some people with N5's that are happy with their purchase, and I know some who aren't. It seems to boil down to this: Comparing a stock N5 to a stock N4 is obviously no contest, as Samsung doesn't optimise their devices to their full potential... (Gotta love planned obsolescence) But as a rooted N4 user running a custom ROM that transforms my entire user experience, I wonder if the performance chasm that is being described is truly that vast...
Edit: And I have held the N5 in hand... I'm certainly not bashing it - it's a beautiful device. But I feel Samsung left so much on the table, and didn't really improve a device that was poised to truly dominate the market.

Well I was a nay-sayer to the Note 5 (I was going to avoid it at ALL costs). That was until my Note 4 speaker blew (factory warranty replacement) but since they didn't have any Note 4's in Stock where I went they told me that I was getting a Note 5 for free. I was hesitant and was going to deal with the blown speaker until they could get me a Note 4. However, the person at the store convinced me to at least take the Note 5 in the meantime and at least give it the 14 day trial. So, I did... I must admit I love it, I don't miss the SD card slot, though I am still looking into a secure cloud service. I have noticed the reception I get from the tower (Sprint service) is way stronger than the Note 4 I had in the same locations, and side by side comparisons with my wife's note 4 holds true to that statement as well. I have never been one to switch out batteries, so that was never an issue anyways.
TL;DR: Note 5 > Note 4 IMHO
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So we're still talking about stock unrooted?
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Yep. I connect to secure networks that don't allow rooted devices on. I also didn't want to obliterate Samsung Pay and other apps that can't be root cloaked that read device status.
But as a rooted N4 user running a custom ROM that transforms my entire user experience, I wonder if the performance chasm that is being described is truly that vast...
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Assuming you're able to mimic the same custom environment on the Note 5 it'll still blow your Note 4 out of the water. Software can't take the place of a more modern and powerful SoC, uber fast memory and storage, and more streamlined and lighter stock apps and UI (assuming you're using any).
And I have held the N5 in hand... I'm certainly not bashing it - it's a beautiful device. But I feel Samsung left so much on the table, and didn't really improve a device that was poised to truly dominate the market.
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What's really left design wise? The display sets the shape of the device so the only thing to play with is bezel size and depth. To support wireless signals and control weight material choices are metal, glass, and plastic. So no matter who makes a phone it's going to be a slab of glass on the front and made out of metal, glass, and/or plastic. HTC's dual front speakers didn't sell phones. LG's bizarre control placement and KnockOn didn't sell phones. Sony's waterproofing didn't sell phones. Apple's 8MP camera, iterative designs, lack of expandable storage, and fixed battery didn't prevent phones from being sold. Welcome to the "mature" smartphone market.