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I know "best" is subjective, but...

Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?

dodgebizkit said:
Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?
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Yeah, I totally agree when it comes to performance. That is the big pro running stock android in its pure state.
There are definitely cons where it can't reach the new phones, but I'm totally OK with 'em.
Battery life is good to go trough my work day. Storage is enough (for me). Don't really need a better camera on my phone.
Yes, I'm pretty happy with my nexus and I think it will satisfy me until there the next generation this fall... :thumbup:

Yes, I am very happy with mine and I know people who have GS3, GS4 or iPhone 5 and none of them reaches the quality of my nexus 4 imo. And I am so glad to be part of this awesome community!

dodgebizkit said:
Would you still say that the nexus 4 is the best device the market despite its age?
With all my apps and background processes going, it hasnt slowed down a bit, ir doesn't know what lag is. It is fast, smooth, beautiful and functional and I'm on totally stock unrooted 4.3.
The s⁴, note ² and other more popular phones can not say this despite their superior hardware.
(I'm discounting google editions).
What do you think?
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Note 2 does not have superior hardware. It has same processor as the S3 which is quad core version of the processor in S2.
Coming to S4. Exynos version beats N4 by long margin as it's A15 processor. The US and European versions of S4 use a slightly improved version of the processor that's in N4 so it's sort of tie of you check benchmarks.
Touchwiz shows Samsung phones. Even the S4 lags badly at times.
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Since the thread is subjective, as OP stated, I'll have to say that I wouldn't trade my N4 for any other phone. I actually plan on keeping it after my contract has run out in Dec 2014. It's that good.
I'm sure I'll figure out a way to replace the battery as well.:victory:

vanmarek said:
Since the thread is subjective, as OP stated, I'll have to say that I wouldn't trade my N4 for any other phone. I actually plan on keeping it after my contract has run out in Dec 2014. It's that good.
I'm sure I'll figure out a way to replace the battery as well.:victory:
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why..? is the battery is no good.? or is it just as a standard procedure after long usage..?
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Iphone users used to say this 3 years ago;
It just works.

Nope. As an owner of all the ones you mention...I'd say the Note 2 is the Best. Its a sweet smartphone.
Just my opinion and I currently am using a Nexus 4 as of a few days ago and I am surprised how great it runs...I agree the n4 is an excellent device though...no complaints at all (well except the small 4.7 screen).
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Note 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 belong in the dash of a Cadillac or limo roof, no need for big ass phones that don't fit normal pockets.
"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4

It's certainly the best bang for your buck. At $300/$350 for a device of this caliber, how could you go wrong?
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Hell yea the Nexus 4 Is still a top notch phone, Not only Price But Software as well. Love My Nexus:good::good:

yeah there's no other phone that comes closer to price/performance ratio...the price is a steal.

nexus 4 is perfect excepting the battery life...especially compared to iphone 5

Honestly for the price you pay and its excellent performance its value seems to be, personally much more than that of another Samsung device.

Yeah sure...we're in nexus 4 section on xda. I don't wanna sounds like a **** but I guess 90% of us think the same about our device. So is it really necessary to open a new thread for that?
I am sure that even after 2 years you'll find people that think this way about N4 here. Just check s2 or GN section, you'll easily find posts saying that GN is still one of the very best handsets (hardwarewise) or that S2 running Cm10.1 (with not working project butter) is buttery smooth

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No LAG!!!!! If you wanna play games buy a console,..S4 is nothing special
"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4

Cream$ickleHJ said:
No LAG!!!!! If you wanna play games buy a console,..S4 is nothing special
"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4
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No better way to say it.

Lag on n⁴ is so rare its unbelievable, far less than on the iphone 4s.
I really love the nexus range now and couldn't imagine leaving unless it was for a future Note model but even then it would be a work device/second device to a nexus, the n⁴ is the first phone to enamour me since the HTC HD 7 (which still runs amazing on stock wp7.8 after like 3 or 4 years)
I previously had s3 international and if was nice and made me finally like android, I hated it pre-ics/jb and pre-quadcore as it was so horrible to see the mess and lag...
Right now though, android and nexus = pure phone heaven
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Nexus ⁴ stock unrooted 4.3 with Kii Keyboard.

I definitely say the Note 2. Of course this crowd is biased towards aosp where as people in the note forums will say anything under 5x is a joke. I for one love the spen actually prefer twiz over aosp. I am not using gnex because I wanted the "pure Google experience" Nein! I am using this because I had to sell my note 2 because I am broke and the gnex seemed to the best suitable downgrade from the N2. Rest assured I will probably get the Note 3 come tax season. Might even buy Note 2 once the value decreased for the N3
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Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?

I actually bought the N5 before getting the N4. The fact is, I'm gonna get all of the Nexus devices (all new in box) just because I can. And I plan on using most of them.
But anyway, for those that aren't as Nexus obsessed as me, why did you stay with the N4? I know one answer I'm going to hear: "because it still does what I need". (fair enough)
Just interested in what people think.

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Good response. Thanks for sharing.
Some of us are enthusiasts interested in other people's opinions and experiences.

I stayed with the N4 because I think it's more handy. It's a little smaller than the nexus 5 and since I have smaller hands I prefer the nexus 4. Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)

I stayed because I didnt find mych difference and also Im in a condition that buying a new device will probably waste my time ! And also planing to move to google silver or iphone 6
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Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.

I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!

my reason :
- I got my N4 cheap (got $100 discount when I bought it).
- screen density is more than enough for my poor eyes. (tell you the truth I really can tell differences between 415ppi vs 318ppi).
- CPU sector, for me myself my nexus 4 is already fast enough. I mean this is a phone not a laptop/pc, I don't need huge clock speed or ram to play games.
only one two cent personal opinion.

japmeet said:
I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.

wolfen69 said:
I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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It is a great phone, no questions there

Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?
I guess because not everyone is as independently wealthy as you. Geez, I just bought the thing only a year and a half ago. Assuming that someone keeps making OS updates for this phone on this forum to keep up with security updates, I will keep it for around the same time-frame as I refresh my main desktop computer, about 5 to 7 years. Heck, my older second desktop computer is 11 years old and runs various versions of Linux as well as XP just fine (Although I disabled XP because it was finally discontinued.) I understand it is the constantly changing hardware that forces Google to very quickly stop supporting OS upgrades on older devices (really just an excuse to sell more devices), but it is really ridiculous that my Nexus 4 will shortly become obsolete by Google's standards, unlike Microsoft who supports their operating systems for a very reasonable amount of time.

I stayed with my Nexus 4 because Nexus 5 didn't offer a significant difference in performance. I was able to compare that side by side, and the performance of my Nexus 4 was just fast as Nexus 5. So i saw no point in change.
As i'm a non gamer guy, i think Nexus 5 will perform better games than Nexus 4, but i really don't play much.
Personally speaking, changing phone every year (some people always want to stay on fashion), seems to me like throwing money away, i think it's better change of 2 in 2 years, then you'll notice more technology improvement.
Another situation, was when i saw the Nexus 5...i was totally disappointed with his design..i mean look at the Nexus 4...it has an amazing design, glass on the back, all seems to be in harmony.
In Nexus 5 it's just a phone...don't know...lack of personality, i guess....lol
Now, i'll be waiting for Nexus 6...let's see if it worth...

Most of the replies posted in the thread apply to me as well. Some additional thoughts that kept me away from the n5:
It feels better in my hands and the size was perfect. The main things I liked were the corners of the nexus 4 were more curved than the 5, and that the tapered edges of the n4 screen felt natural.
I also preferred the n4's "discrete" camera compared to the gigantic wart that's on the back of the n5.
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I stayed because I won't jump to another phone until I see significant improvement in technology as nowadays it's just spec bumps. I think the 4th is more than enough to last for another 2 years. I'll probably change next year with the coming of L and 64bit phones and only if it really matters. Oh, and I'm not rich enough to change phone every year ?
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wolfen69 said:
That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
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No CandyKat? It is there, right here.
My reason? Saving up my money for my masters degree studies.

I got the N4 on contract which isn't up until March next year.
Being a student I couldn't afford to buy it outright, and obviously couldn't afford to buy the N5 when it came out.
I will, however, be buying the Nexus 6 the moment it's released. I should have my student loan through by then.
Priorities, right?

I think the Nexus 4 is a gorgeous looking phone (I'm a sucker for the glitter back) and I like how the edges curve as well, it is a unique design. It's also one of the most comfortable device to grip. Lastly, the size of the screen and phone are very similar to the Moto X, which is the ideal size for me. I believe LG went with cheaper production cost with the N5. I originally sold my N4, but when Android L preview image was announced, I was dying to try it out, so I bought another N4. I'm not planning to sell it again (I hope), there is a charm about this device that I like.

I to am a nexus lover. I did buy a n5, I do use it as my daily phone for the most part. but I do occasionally use my n4 as my phone as well. actually, I use my n4 and n5 every day. my n4 I use daily as a WiFi device at work. and it is still a great device! but those that say that the n4 is on par with the n5 when it comes to speed, are just kidding themselves. sure, in the ui, its just as fast as my n5. heck, my gnex is as fast in the ui as my n5. but I'm not talking ui, as any phone(even my nexus s) can have a fast ui if you set it up right. I'm talking opening apps/process, and computing. the n5 blows my n4 away when it comes to apps opening, and the speed of actually computing. anyways, that doesn't take away from my n4, as I do love it as part of my family

I stayed because it wasn't that BIG of an upgrade from the N4 to be honest. Definitely getting the N6 whenever its announce/released.

I got the my Nexus 4 when Google put them on sale last year before the 5's release. I'm in the process of convincing the wife that I need (aka want) a Nexus 5.

Who's canceling/returning their nexus 6?

I know it's a little to early to cast judgement, but I'm really considering returning my nexus 6 to Motorola after all the horrible reviews.... Let's just hope all these reviews are wrong

2swizzle said:
I know it's a little to early to cast judgement, but I'm really considering returning my nexus 6 to Motorola after all the horrible reviews.... Let's just hope all these reviews are wrong
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Well it's a preety bad buy for the money you are throwing into and its not even close to the flagship phones out there. For the same price samsung note is a better option by a looooooooooong shot.
and funny part is few phones are having a lick of lollipop before you even get a nexus 6 in hand. there will be even more phones on lollipop before u get it in your pocket late November. so why shall someone buy a nexus 6?

jags_the1 said:
Well it's a preety bad buy for the money you are throwing into and its not even close to the flagship phones out there. For the same price samsung note is a better option by a looooooooooong shot.
and funny part is few phones are having a lick of lollipop before you even get a nexus 6 in hand. there will be even more phones on lollipop before u get it in your hand late November.
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But the note 4 is locked down on verizon...... #thissomebullshi.

i am having second thoughts about it now.
My bro got the lg g3 and i am diggin it. it is rooted and capable of flashing custom roms. and there is a lollipop leak for one of the versions
i am not opposed to touchwiz. but i am not looking to do another samsung product. i usually just run the google launcher on my s3 anyway. i thought this phone with those specs would come out and destroy the competition performance wise.
i am holding out for more reviews. but as of now, what i see is depressing.

2swizzle said:
I know it's a little to early to cast judgement, but I'm really considering returning my nexus 6 to Motorola after all the horrible reviews.... Let's just hope all these reviews are wrong
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Kind of pushing the horse in front of the carriage, huh? The device isn't even in the hands of consumers yet. What reviews are you reading that are poor? The device looks very promising and I have seen nothing but good reviews.
Some people. ):

I have yet to see a poor review of the device. Do you consider on par with other flagships a poor review?

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I have yet to see a poor review of the device. Do you consider on par with other flagships a poor review?
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I guess it needs to be the best thing since sliced bread for some people to be happy.

I don't think ANY phone could be as bad as the iPhone 6/6+ launch.

2swizzle said:
I know it's a little to early to cast judgement, but I'm really considering returning my nexus 6 to Motorola after all the horrible reviews.... Let's just hope all these reviews are wrong
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What horrible reviews?

I'll say one thing. This has been the most entertaining product launch that I've ever witnessed.

MattMJB0188 said:
Kind of pushing the horse in front of the carriage, huh? The device isn't even in the hands of consumers yet. What reviews are you reading that are poor? The device looks very promising and I have seen nothing but good reviews.
Some people. ):
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I've never seen a carriage where the horse didn't belong in front. Based on the reviews of those who handle every device, I'm not sure the average consumer could add anything constructive to the collective information that's already out there. Almost all of the reviews that are out now are pretty down on the phone on several fronts (battery life, overall performance, camera, screen light output and the screen in general). All of this has definitely made me question my decision to get it. I am also in the "no more Samsung for me" camp so I will probably skip upgrading at all this year and hope that may/june brings something more interesting, or even this time next year. Being on Sprint doesn't help since they don't get half of the good phones that come out. As a Note 3 owner/user I don't use most of the phablet features and hate TW/Knox. Although I tempered my expectations about the Nexus 6, I am still disappointed with what the reviews are saying.

henbone11 said:
I've never seen a carriage where the horse didn't belong in front. Based on the reviews of those who handle every device, I'm not sure the average consumer could add anything constructive to the collective information that's already out there. Almost all of the reviews that are out now are pretty down on the phone on several fronts (battery life, overall performance, camera, screen light output and the screen in general). All of this has definitely made me question my decision to get it. I am also in the "no more Samsung for me" camp so I will probably skip upgrading at all this year and hope that may/june brings something more interesting, or even this time next year. Being on Sprint doesn't help since they don't get half of the good phones that come out. As a Note 3 owner/user I don't use most of the phablet features and hate TW/Knox. Although I tempered my expectations about the Nexus 6, I am still disappointed with what the reviews are saying.
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So I have only seen three reviews, they do not state anything that you are saying. Battery life is Average according to all reviews. Performance is amazing, except some studders but that is likely fixed with todays OTA. Camera has been nothing but positive, screen has been very positive for natural color. Can you link the review you are talking about?

henbone11 said:
I've never seen a carriage where the horse didn't belong in front. Based on the reviews of those who handle every device, I'm not sure the average consumer could add anything constructive to the collective information that's already out there. Almost all of the reviews that are out now are pretty down on the phone on several fronts (battery life, overall performance, camera, screen light output and the screen in general). All of this has definitely made me question my decision to get it. I am also in the "no more Samsung for me" camp so I will probably skip upgrading at all this year and hope that may/june brings something more interesting, or even this time next year. Being on Sprint doesn't help since they don't get half of the good phones that come out. As a Note 3 owner/user I don't use most of the phablet features and hate TW/Knox. Although I tempered my expectations about the Nexus 6, I am still disappointed with what the reviews are saying.
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We both know the phone won't get 24hours of battery life. The few reviews I watched said they managed to get at least 4-5 hours of screen on time. That's fine for me. Can't really see anyone having a problem with that. Define overall performance? I have seen nothing but reviewers praise the device for outstanding performance and great fluidity. Isn't scree light output and the screen subjective anyway? What you may find to be a bad screen, I may not.
Even if this device isn't that great, there really aren't that many other options right now. The Note 4 would be great, except it runs TW which is horrible. What's next for flagship phones? The iPhone 6 plus? Yeah, I think not lol.
On the contrary, I am hoping that Samsung strips its pathetic software for the Galaxy S6 and rewrites it. I want it on par with with a stock android experience, or at least fluid like such.

It should be noted that Eric Limer of Gizmodo did get well over 24 hours of battery. He said he woke up on day 2 with 20%, and with 10 minutes on the charger was able to make it to 6 pm on day 2.

I'll be canceling my order as I decided on the Xperia Z3 instead. I'm pretty disappointed in the reviews of the N6, I was hoping on better battery life.
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MattMJB0188 said:
Kind of pushing the horse in front of the carriage, huh? The device isn't even in the hands of consumers yet. What reviews are you reading that are poor? The device looks very promising and I have seen nothing but good reviews.
Some people. ):
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That's why I said "i know it's to early to cast judgement.." I'm paying retail for my phone I expect it to deliver, the Note 4 is the same price on Verizon and that phone is a beast minus the locked bootloader.

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That's why I said "i know it's to early to cast judgement.." I'm paying retail for my phone I expect it to deliver, the Note 4 is the same price on Verizon and that phone is a beast minus the locked bootloader.
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Your comparing apples to oranges on that one. The Note 4 may have "beast" like specs, yes, however, it DOES NOT perform like it does. Its extremely laggy and hiccups. Many people have reported delays when launching apps. Not something a "beast" like phone should do, huh? Not too mention the locked down bootloader. Yeah, I won't be picking up a Samsung device for a long time.

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Your comparing apples to oranges on that one. The Note 4 may have "beast" like specs, yes, however, it DOES NOT perform like it does. Its extremely laggy and hiccups. Many people have reported delays when launching apps. Not something a "beast" like phone should do, huh? Not too mention the locked down bootloader. Yeah, I won't be picking up a Samsung device for a long time.
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If I return the Nexus 6, I will just buy a Note 4 developers version. I ordered from Motorola so I can't cancel until I receive the phone.

Wtf is this thread....lmao!!

Most of the reviews I've seen it has comparable specs as the Note 4. I'm just wondering if it truly compares or best the Note 4.

[Q] Is the nexus 6 amazing/worth it? I'm close to buying one..

Okay well. Right now i have the oneplus one. Its a great phone and i like it and all... But no android l support yet (no cm12s), my touch screen is going bad, support is eh... and im just wanting to buy something that has been improved over many years... And is reliable. opo is kinda new.. with a single device.
So i thought of the nexus 6. It looks and feels amazing (as i have held/saw one) scores really nice on benchmarks despite the quad hd display.
My opo currently has the bamboo back (swap cover) and its in perfect condition, should be worth a good amount, and i get paid soon. So now i am tempted to buy the nexus 6.
Afew questions.
Firstly, I am all about having fast/latest hardware, so here is where my concern comes in. Is this nexus 6 a first of a soon soc snapdragon 805? Because i remember when the nexus 5 was out, half a year later there was a much better soc snapdragon 801. I know the nexus 6 will be fast, but i am just thinking ahead..
Next, is $700+ (as i would get the 64gb one) worth it?.. Its a HUGE jump from the previous $400 32gb nexus 5.. I thought nexus devices were always going to be cheap.. I mean, a bigger screen, a better build quality and snapdragon 805.. that's about all.
Middle, Will it be worth alot by next year when the next nexus arrives? (for resale purposes)
And lastly, should i just go for the nexus 6? And stay in the nexus line.. Or wait for a snapdragon 810 model phone to release.. As 64bit is arriving this year.
PS: Is metro PCS supported?
That's about all i am wondering..
Thanks for anyone that can help me.

Snapdragon 810 is just around the corner, the LG G Flex 2 will be using SD 810. You can have the best hardware possible but if the software is not optimized for it then that hardware is not fully utilized to its fullest potential. In my opinion, get a phone with good development support from the community, not a phone because it has better specifications.
The question of the N6 being "worth it" is subjective and no one can answer that but yourself. You posting a thread in here will attract people say "yeah its worth it, get it ASAP" because you're in Nexus territory but if you're in the OPO territory, they would say no because OPO has a better value. Both phones have its pros and cons, the decision of whether the "N6 is worth it" is not as black and white.
Will it be worth a lot? I don't predict the future, but it most likely will retain a large % of its value. Nexus 5 is still a popular phone and people are still buying them.
Should you go for the N6? I already answered this. I personally was using the OPO and switched to a N6, the OPO community is great but it was no where as good as the Nexus line of devices. Snapdragon 810, don't really care about it unless a Nexus has its name to it.
If development is something you care about when it comes to a phone, a Nexus won't disappoint.
MetroPCS... do the research on your own and compare bands.

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Snapdragon 810 is just around the corner, the LG G Flex 2 will be using SD 810. You can have the best hardware possible but if the software is not optimized for it then that hardware is not fully utilized to its fullest potential. In my opinion, get a phone with good development support from the community, not a phone because it has better specifications.
The question of the N6 being "worth it" is subjective and no one can answer that but yourself. You posting a thread in here will attract people say "yeah its worth it, get it ASAP" because you're in Nexus territory but if you're in the OPO territory, they would say no because OPO has a better value. Both phones have its pros and cons, the decision of whether the "N6 is worth it" is not as black and white.
Will it be worth a lot? I don't predict the future, but it most likely will retain a large % of its value. Nexus 5 is still a popular phone and people are still buying them.
Should you go for the N6? I already answered this. I personally was using the OPO and switched to a N6, the OPO community is great but it was no where as good as the Nexus line of devices. Snapdragon 810, don't really care about it unless a Nexus has its name to it.
If development is something you care about when it comes to a phone, a Nexus won't disappoint.
MetroPCS... do the research on your own and compare bands.
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You sir should write books thanks!

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You sir should write books thanks!
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Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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zephiK said:
Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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Alright! Thanks again

If you can wait for a device that you like (form factor, screen, brand) that has the 810 processor in it, I would wait for that. But if you want a phone this second then the Nexus 6 is a decent choice. With that being said you have a few things to consider.
1)Curved back - For some people this is a deal breaker. Don't ask me why it just is.
2)Large size- At a whopping 5.96" it is large in the average person's hand. I have large hands so this was actually fine for me.
3)Battery life- Because of the screen size the battery life isn't best in class. I will say that it is decent though. You can check threads with users posting their SOT. I on average get about 5.5-6 hours screen on time over the course of a day. (If I ever have time to use it that much.)
But with all those things considered there are a few benefits too, which I'm sure you've heard. When it all comes down to it if you are considering the Nexus 6 the other phone you might want to consider is the Note 4. It is close to the same screen size, same processor, and same battery size. I for one thought the Nexus 6 was the better option because of the Nexus phone support and that it has a bone-stock version of Android. I can't stand Samsung's bloatware.
TL;DR:If you want a phone right now it's a good choice. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months.

melgibson666 said:
If you can wait for a device that you like (form factor, screen, brand) that has the 810 processor in it, I would wait for that. But if you want a phone this second then the Nexus 6 is a decent choice. With that being said you have a few things to consider.
1)Curved back - For some people this is a deal breaker. Don't ask me why it just is.
2)Large size- At a whopping 5.96" it is large in the average person's hand. I have large hands so this was actually fine for me.
3)Battery life- Because of the screen size the battery life isn't best in class. I will say that it is decent though. You can check threads with users posting their SOT. I on average get about 5.5-6 hours screen on time over the course of a day. (If I ever have time to use it that much.)
But with all those things considered there are a few benefits too, which I'm sure you've heard. When it all comes down to it if you are considering the Nexus 6 the other phone you might want to consider is the Note 4. It is close to the same screen size, same processor, and same battery size. I for one thought the Nexus 6 was the better option because of the Nexus phone support and that it has a bone-stock version of Android. I can't stand Samsung's bloatware.
TL;DR:If you want a phone right now it's a good choice. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months.
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There's no point waiting for a few more months, just a couple months later. the Nexus 6 will be even better because the development will be more mature in terms of custom ROMs and kernels.
Going to a phone that is a non-Nexus will have less development and the software will be more bloated with carrier apps and manufacturer skins. Once you go to a Nexus, you stay a Nexus. If a user is wanting something that works outside of the box and doesn't care too much about development then by all means go to a non-Nexus but if you care about custom ROMs and kernels then Nexus devices are the way to go.

I came from a G3 and before that a Note 3
. the Nexus 6 is by far my favorite phone. The development for it is far beyond any other device I have seen, we have kernels, ROMs and everything in between.
The size isn't bad in fact I really like how big it is. It only took a day or two to get used to. Note when I use my wife's Moto X 2014 or S5 its like looking at a iPhone 4. While here may be other devices out there shortly with the SD810 its not going to be as good without devs working on making it better. I had the G3 F460S which had the SD805 and it was much slower than the Nexus with the same processor. LG didn't optimize the chip set well enough to make it worth the upgrade over the regular G3. My antutu score with it was ~46K which is the same as the Moto X that my wife has which is 100% stock. While my G3 was rooted and tweaked with some mods at the time.
The AMOLED display looks great compared to a LCD and its very responsive.
It boils down to preference and I love my Nexus and will buy the next one as well.

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There's no point waiting for a few more months, just a couple months later. the Nexus 6 will be even better because the development will be more mature in terms of custom ROMs and kernels.
Going to a phone that is a non-Nexus will have less development and the software will be more bloated with carrier apps and manufacturer skins. Once you go to a Nexus, you stay a Nexus. If a user is wanting something that works outside of the box and doesn't care too much about development then by all means go to a non-Nexus but if you care about custom ROMs and kernels then Nexus devices are the way to go.
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Nexus phones aren't the end all be all. Usually they have the most developer support but buying something just because it's a Nexus branded phone sounds an awful lot like those "Fruit" buying fanboys that will buy anything their cult favorite company puts out.

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Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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i would also add that battery life is the most subjective issue. it literally depends on how you use the phone. if you're playing games or generally playing around with your phone, your battery life will suck. i use mine as a phone and tool for work and music in the gym and i get 2+ days of use.

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Okay well. Right now i have the oneplus one. Its a great phone and i like it and all... But no android l support yet (no cm12s), my touch screen is going bad, support is eh... and im just wanting to buy something that has been improved over many years... And is reliable. opo is kinda new.. with a single device.
So i thought of the nexus 6. It looks and feels amazing (as i have held/saw one) scores really nice on benchmarks despite the quad hd display.
My opo currently has the bamboo back (swap cover) and its in perfect condition, should be worth a good amount, and i get paid soon. So now i am tempted to buy the nexus 6.
Afew questions.
Firstly, I am all about having fast/latest hardware, so here is where my concern comes in. Is this nexus 6 a first of a soon soc snapdragon 805? Because i remember when the nexus 5 was out, half a year later there was a much better soc snapdragon 801. I know the nexus 6 will be fast, but i am just thinking ahead..
Next, is $700+ (as i would get the 64gb one) worth it?.. Its a HUGE jump from the previous $400 32gb nexus 5.. I thought nexus devices were always going to be cheap.. I mean, a bigger screen, a better build quality and snapdragon 805.. that's about all.
Middle, Will it be worth alot by next year when the next nexus arrives? (for resale purposes)
And lastly, should i just go for the nexus 6? And stay in the nexus line.. Or wait for a snapdragon 810 model phone to release.. As 64bit is arriving this year.
PS: Is metro PCS supported?
That's about all i am wondering..
Thanks for anyone that can help me.
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If you like to tinker and have the time to spend doing so, the Nexus is the obvious choice. If on the other hand you spend more time doing things, working, recreation, socializing, then another phone will probably suit you better. Unfortunately this was my first Nexus device, and I got it thinking that it would be great to have a phone without all the carrier bloat. After getting it I found that many things I've come to consider standard in a phone, settings, options, etc. are sadly not present and probably will be in time with tinkering and trial and error, but I no longer have the time nor the patience to experiment on a device that I paid a large premium for that just seems to not only be crippled by sloppy software but also with possible hardware inconsistencies. I am lucky that I can jump any time I want and probably will here as soon as more devices come to market. But one thing the Nexus will do for you is help you to appreciate the care that other manufacturers put into their devices to support many features and options that a pure android device does not. So, with that in mind, make your won decision and live with it.

IMO, it's overpriced based on the quality of screen and some parts they used + poor QC.

Beyond the Nexus 5

My first Nexus device was the Nexus 4. I loved the quick updates but the battery life was pathetic and it seemed to age quite quickly. I then moved to a Samsung Galaxy S4 but got annoyed over the slow updates around November 2014, I purchased the Nexus 5 and I have been really happy with it. Battery life still isn't that great (although much better than the Nexus 4) but the quick updates are amazing. It's also aged really well and still running reasonably ok. I wasn't keen on the Nexus 6 as this is far too big but I am now starting to think of what phone I should get to replace the Nexus 5.
What phones are you all considering? The obvious choice seems to be to wait for the next Nexus phone but I'm not sure if they'd keep in line with the Nexus 5 or 6 (they might do both). Plus, it'd be quite a few months away so in the meantime I was thinking of the LG G4 as LG seem to be quite good with updates.
Thoughts and suggestions?

N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.

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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.
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Still didn't change their bad behave, you will never believe the cost down of their product. Company like sharp and HTC will tight control everything use in their product down to rev., sometime it may down to specific batch and have a quite large margin for the design. For average user you won't notice anything, but if you take a look at the circuit you may wonder by their miracle.
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I do not agree. It is my opinion that HTC is not the same, and does not have the same quality that they did years ago. It is also my opinion that Samsung devices have seriously gone down in quality.
For power users like us, we desire top of the line devices. We expect them to perform to a standard that the average user does not.
For the average user who just needs to check email and receive MMS picture messages of their grandkids, cheap Chinese phones can't be beat. If you want more, then yeah you have to pay more and buy from a bigger named company.

I´m also happy with my Nexus 5 and this device is still one of the best around, in terms of performance.
If I were you, I would wait a few months for the next Nexus device to be released. Who knows, maybe Google will release a Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) or a slightly smaller Nexus 6 ( 2015 ) ?

Its nice to have a new phone every now and again, but I would wait a while to see what happens with the next Nexus phone; it might just make you fall in love with the Nexus family again.

I think they will make a smaller Nexus phone this year. I'd like a 5.5 or 5.2in device with thin bezels.

I just wish it would be small enough (5") and has a better camera hardware (Nexus 5's is quite a bit lacking).

Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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Ok you convinced me, patience is a virtue after all I'm sure the next Nexus would be awesome, I really don't like the direction they went with the Nexus 6 but rumours say that this was originally part of the Android Silver program (or whatever it was called) and it was only switched back to a Nexus phone last minute. Anyway, fingers crossed that the next Nexus is as awesome (or more so) than the Nexus 5 and equally good value for money.

I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though

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I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though
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If the next Nexus is released in October then I think we're due for some major rumour/leaks about now. The feature at the top of my wishlist for the phone is a very large battery with some serious battery optimisation. Together creating a phone that exceptional run time far more than anything else on the market.

The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.

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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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This was my thinking with the LG G4 because the line of phones has stood the test of time. The LG G2 was released over a year and a half ago but it's still holding up well and LG are still supporting it with Lollipop (although it takes a while for the update to reach the phone). Something tells me the LG G4 could easily be supported for 2 years if not more. However, although the battery is around 3000mAh, it doesn't have amazing battery life. Much better than the Nexus 5 and would easily take most through the whole day but I'm really thinking that a phone that can easily take most people through 48 hours is a new standard that should be strived by manufacturers.

The s6 is tempting for me. I'd be gutted if nexus realesed a beast though. Can't beat pure android.

I owned a Nexus 6 for a couple months. I never liked the size and couldn't get used to it. I also hated the shape of the phone. It was not stable laying a desk. Surprisingly, I use my phone one handed while it lays on a desk a lot to send texts. That weird curved back wobbles and spins if you try to use it one handed like that. I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
I have switched back to my Nexus 5 and sold the 6 and am so much happier. I know now that I never want a phone larger than the Nexus 5. I am also on Sprint which makes buying a non-carrier phone virtually impossible. Basically I am stuck hoping the Nexus 5 refresh is small or keeping an eye on something like the Galaxy S6/HTC M9 AOSP custom rom scene which I really don't want to mess around with.

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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
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..I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
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We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.

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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.
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I too dont have a camera, but really phones cant substitute real camera. The only devices which are close are lg g4 and galaxy s6, but these devices are flagships, i dont think you will see that kind of camera on nexus phone because.. Well, its a nexus. If they make it a budget phone again, im sure you wont get that great camera. But maybe google surprises us.
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